You are unemployed and want a new job, under a Democratic president you have a better chance of getting one!

[jc456]

I addressed the above by explaining the role of deregulation, particularly the repeal of Glass-Steagall,

how did Glass-Steagall participate in bad loans? It was Todd's original question and throughout the thread, you haven't responded with an answer. Look, if you wish to debate, if you raise a claim and it's challenged, it is expected to follow up with a counter point. Not the same line you initially used.

 

[jc456]

Again, since you're unable to comprehend what you read. The cost of living has been rising for decades and wages have been stagnant for most working-class Americans since at least the 1980s, so how does Trump being president, change that? He didn't do anything to change it when he was president last time. The cost of living was still going up when he was president and wages for most Americans weren't any better. How does Trump being president now change anything? Trump's half-ass, meager, "bandaid" solutions are going to significantly improve the situations for most working-class Americans? Really? You're clueless.

and what is it scamla's going to change that she hasn't in the 3 1/2 years in the white house? You're saying she failed.

 

[TruthNotBS]

At least she's pro-union and respects labor rights and workers more than right-wing Trump. Kamala is more likely to increase the minimum wage and regulate capitalism in such a way that it empowers and benefits workers. Trump is much less likely to do that. He's a wealthy capitalist, who hates labor unions and workers having more leverage and power.

 

[jc456]

At least she's pro-union and respects labor rights and workers more than right-wing Trump. Kamala is more likely to increase the minimum wage and regulate capitalism in such a way that it empowers and benefits workers. Trump is much less likely to do that. He's a wealthy capitalist, who hates labor unions and workers having more leverage and power.

then how come railworkers didn't get their paid vacations if she's for unions?

 

[jc456]

JC, your response is a classic case of avoiding the real issue by focusing on minutiae. The fact that you’re dismissing the analogy and the broader context I provided shows that you’re either unwilling or unable to engage with the actual arguments. The financial crisis wasn’t just about individual regulations or specific bad loans it was about a systemic failure that was deliberately engineered by those in power to maximize their profits, even if it meant risking the entire economy. This isn’t "nonsense"; it’s the core of why the 2008 collapse happened and why it will happen again under the same conditions.

You keep demanding answers to narrow questions, but those questions are designed to distract from the bigger picture. The financial industry lobbied for the repeal of Glass-Steagall and other protective regulations because they knew it would allow them to engage in riskier behavior with greater potential rewards, all while passing the risk onto the public. When that gamble failed, it wasn’t capitalism that saved the day it was a government bailout, essentially a socialist intervention, that prevented a complete collapse. So, if you want to talk about who’s really deflecting, take a look in the mirror. The truth is, a more socialist system would have prevented the crisis in the first place by keeping the financial industry accountable to the public, not to profit margins.

BTW, thinking about your posting habits, I don't need to know how a clock is built in order to tell time. you should take that as advice.

 

[jc456]

At least she's pro-union and respects labor rights and workers more than right-wing Trump. Kamala is more likely to increase the minimum wage and regulate capitalism in such a way that it empowers and benefits workers. Trump is much less likely to do that. He's a wealthy capitalist, who hates labor unions and workers having more leverage and power.

Can you name one thing she's done for unions? Anyone?

 

[TruthNotBS]

how did Glass-Steagall participate in bad loans? It was Todd's original question and throughout the thread, you haven't responded with an answer. Look, if you wish to debate, if you raise a claim and it's challenged, it is expected a counter point. Not the same line you initially used.

I answered that, but you can continue pretending otherwise if it toots your horn.

If bad loans were the sole issue, why did banks push so hard for the ability to engage in these riskier activities, which Glass-Steagall had prevented? The answer is clear: the repeal allowed them to bundle these bad loans into securities, offload the risk, and profit immensely, all while leaving the broader economy to suffer the consequences when the bubble burst. This wasn't just about bad loans; it was about how those loans were exploited in a deregulated environment that favored short-term gains over long-term stability.

You still haven't answered the crucial question: If the repeal of Glass-Steagall wasn't important, why did the financial industry invest so much time, money, and effort to get rid of it? They didn’t push for this change out of sheer coincidence. The financial sector lobbied hard because they knew it would allow them to engage in riskier, high-profit activities that Glass-Steagall had previously restrained. These activities, particularly the bundling of subprime loans into mortgage-backed securities, were central to the 2008 crisis. If the repeal was so inconsequential, why the intense lobbying? Answer that.

 

[TruthNotBS]

BTW, thinking about your posting habits, I don't need to know how a clock is built in order to tell time. you should take that as advice.

You can't even tell time.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Can you name one thing she's done for unions? Anyone?

President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris have made significant efforts to support labor unions and workers. Here are some key actions they’ve taken:

Executive Orders: Biden signed executive orders to promote unionization, including one establishing a task force to encourage worker organizing and empower workers.

1. Pro-Union Legislation: They strongly support the Protecting the Right to Organize (PRO) Act, which aims to strengthen workers' rights to unionize and collectively bargain.
2. Appointment of Pro-Labor Officials: Biden appointed pro-labor leaders to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) and other key positions, which has helped restore and strengthen labor protections.
3. Infrastructure and Economic Plans: Their infrastructure plan includes provisions for creating good-paying, union jobs, with a focus on rebuilding the middle class.
4. Support for Strikes and Union Activities: Biden has publicly supported union strikes and workers' rights, including backing Amazon and Kellogg workers during their strikes.

These efforts reflect their administration's commitment to strengthening labor unions and improving working conditions for American workers. Would Trump support workers in the same way? NO. Trump is anti-labor power, he's a big-money capitalist, looking out for the rich first, and maybe throws a few crumbs at workers, to give people the false impression that he's pro-worker. He's pro-rich, not pro-working class.

 

[TruthNotBS]

then how come railworkers didn't get their paid vacations if she's for unions?

JC, it’s easy to pick one issue and claim it negates everything else, but that’s not how the real world works. The situation with the rail workers' paid leave was a complex negotiation involving multiple stakeholders, not a simple decision made solely by Biden or Harris. While the outcome was disappointing for many, it doesn’t erase the broader support their administration has shown for labor unions and workers, including backing the PRO Act, appointing pro-labor officials, and advocating for policies that strengthen workers' rights across various industries. One setback doesn’t negate the overall commitment to improving labor rights.

 

[jc456]

You can't even tell time.

Nor can you build a clock

 

[jc456]

JC, it’s easy to pick one issue and claim it negates everything else, but that’s not how the real world works. The situation with the rail workers' paid leave was a complex negotiation involving multiple stakeholders, not a simple decision made solely by Biden or Harris. While the outcome was disappointing for many, it doesn’t erase the broader support their administration has shown for labor unions and workers, including backing the PRO Act, appointing pro-labor officials, and advocating for policies that strengthen workers' rights across various industries. One setback doesn’t negate the overall commitment to improving labor rights.

Well fine, name one thing she has done for unions?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Nor can you build a clock

At least I can tell time, you fucking idiot. Stupid punk.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Well fine, name one thing she has done for unions?

I already did you fucking retard. Learn to read.

 

[jc456]

While the outcome was disappointing for many, it doesn’t erase the broader support their administration has shown for labor unions and workers, including backing the PRO Act, appointing pro-labor officials, and advocating for policies that strengthen workers' rights across various industries.

What policies strengthen workers rights? name one. I keep asking.

 

[TruthNotBS]

What policies strengthen workers rights? name one. I keep asking.

JC, here’s a straightforward list of policies and regulations that strengthen workers' rights:

1. Right to Organize: The National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) protects workers’ rights to form, join, and assist labor unions, as well as to engage in collective bargaining.
2. Minimum Wage: The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets a federal minimum wage, ensuring that workers receive a baseline level of compensation for their labor.
3. Occupational Safety and Health: The Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA) enforces workplace safety standards, including access to necessary facilities like bathrooms, and ensuring that working conditions are safe and humane.
4. Family and Medical Leave: The Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) guarantees eligible employees up to 12 weeks of unpaid, job-protected leave for family and medical reasons.
5. Paid Sick Leave: Various state laws and local ordinances require employers to provide paid sick leave, allowing workers to take time off for health reasons without fear of losing their jobs.
6. Right to Strike: Workers have the legal right to strike, as protected by the NLRA, to press for better wages, working conditions, or other workplace issues.
7. Anti-Discrimination Protections: Laws like Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibit workplace discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

These policies and a few others not listed above, collectively ensure that workers have the ability to advocate for themselves, secure fair wages, work in safe conditions, and take necessary leave for health or family reasons.

 

[jc456]

JC, here’s a straightforward list of policies and regulations that strengthen workers' rights:

1. Right to Organize: The National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) protects workers’ rights to form, join, and assist labor unions, as well as to engage in collective bargaining.
2. Minimum Wage: The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets a federal minimum wage, ensuring that workers receive a baseline level of compensation for their labor.
3. Occupational Safety and Health: The Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA) enforces workplace safety standards, including access to necessary facilities like bathrooms, and ensuring that working conditions are safe and humane.
4. Family and Medical Leave: The Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) guarantees eligible employees up to 12 weeks of unpaid, job-protected leave for family and medical reasons.
5. Paid Sick Leave: Various state laws and local ordinances require employers to provide paid sick leave, allowing workers to take time off for health reasons without fear of losing their jobs.
6. Right to Strike: Workers have the legal right to strike, as protected by the NLRA, to press for better wages, working conditions, or other workplace issues.
7. Anti-Discrimination Protections: Laws like Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibit workplace discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

These policies and a few others not listed above, collectively ensure that workers have the ability to advocate for themselves, secure fair wages, work in safe conditions, and take necessary leave for health or family reasons.

She didn’t provide or push any of those?

I asked for her policies

 

[TruthNotBS]

She didn’t provide or push any of those?

I asked for her policies

I gave you the policies that Biden with Harris helped pass and supported. Just shut up already, go make a sandwich. You disingenuous piece of shit.

 

[jc456]

I gave you the policies that Biden with Harris helped pass and supported. Just shut up already, go make a sandwich. You disingenuous piece of shit.

Those weren’t passed during their term!

 

[TruthNotBS]

Those weren’t passed during their term!

1. Executive Orders: Biden signed executive orders to promote unionization, including one establishing a task force to encourage worker organizing and empower workers.
2. Pro-Union Legislation: They strongly support the Protecting the Right to Organize (PRO) Act, which aims to strengthen workers' rights to unionize and collectively bargain.
3. Appointment of Pro-Labor Officials: Biden appointed pro-labor leaders to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) and other key positions, which has helped restore and strengthen labor protections.
4. Infrastructure and Economic Plans: Their infrastructure plan includes provisions for creating good-paying, union jobs, with a focus on rebuilding the middle class.
5. Support for Strikes and Union Activities: Biden has publicly supported union strikes and workers' rights, including backing Amazon and Kellogg workers during their strikes.

You're such a dishonest hypocrite. I have better things to do with my precious time and energy than continue going back and forth with a disingenuous shithead like you, so have the last word and deceive yourself into thinking you've "won" something.