Yet another school shooting

[Bush92]

Santa Fe High School shooting: Suspect in custody, assistant principal says - CNN

Details still breaking.

When will this end?

Right here in the middle of gun country, Texans call for more guns in the schools. I say let's arm the students. Oh, I guess they're already armed. Well then let's arm the teachers. Maybe Mrs. Jones with a 45 strapped to her side can bring order to her third grade class.

The ‘good guy with a gun’ myth is in fact a myth.

Citizens have the right to carry firearms pursuant to lawful self-defense – not to act in the capacity of law enforcement, to deter crime, or to prevent school shootings.

I’m a good guy. I own guns.

 

[Bush92]

Obviously....duh.... security at schools need to be made to resemble federal government buildings. Time for people to buckle up their chin straps. Highly trained security. The kids will get used to it. Or we can continue to play makey-uppey let's continue to navigate in Disney.

Went to school overseas 0 mass shooting, heck 0 shooting...God damn it 0 shooting outside school...**** 0 shooting in malls, streets, or public places....you know why? Because it was a gun free country. I dont know anyone who knew anyone who saw a gun. Its doable Merica , it ain't the 1800s.

Nazi Germany is what you want, where after a few leadership changes, and you possibly get a tyrant who wants to destroy you and your culture, then you have no resistance to that situation ? How about looking at what has taken place in the world, and how governments were able to kill millions without their resistance of.

You want that here ?? We are free because we don't follow the world, and it will be that there is some corrections to be made. Stay tuned.

While waiting for that tyrant to come, the population is shooting each other. What a stupid argument.

Nope, not stupid at all... You know it but your agenda has you muzzled.

Grow up in a gun free country we had 0 mass shootings. Enjoy your gun and stay stuck in the 1800s...the world is laughing at your stupidity and I mean the whole world.

Shut-up and sponge off your socialist government *****.

 

[Manonthestreet]

 

[Issa]

Went to school overseas 0 mass shooting, heck 0 shooting...God damn it 0 shooting outside school...**** 0 shooting in malls, streets, or public places....you know why? Because it was a gun free country. I dont know anyone who knew anyone who saw a gun. Its doable Merica , it ain't the 1800s.

Nazi Germany is what you want, where after a few leadership changes, and you possibly get a tyrant who wants to destroy you and your culture, then you have no resistance to that situation ? How about looking at what has taken place in the world, and how governments were able to kill millions without their resistance of.

You want that here ?? We are free because we don't follow the world, and it will be that there is some corrections to be made. Stay tuned.

While waiting for that tyrant to come, the population is shooting each other. What a stupid argument.

Nope, not stupid at all... You know it but your agenda has you muzzled.

Grow up in a gun free country we had 0 mass shootings. Enjoy your gun and stay stuck in the 1800s...the world is laughing at your stupidity and I mean the whole world.

Shut-up and sponge off your socialist government *****.

How many thousands will get killed from guns compare to other nations?

 

[basquebromance]

"If President Trump or the First Lady wanted to visit any public school in America, that school would be secured without a 2nd thought. It can be done. Its worth the resources. Its not controversial. Its not political. There are no excuses."

 

[basquebromance]

'WE NEED TO TELL POLITICIANS IN THE NRA'S POCKET TO PUT OUR KIDS LIVES BEFORE GUNS!' Ok. How is the NRA preventing nationwide security efforts for public schools? 'WE NEED GUN CONTROL NOW!' We have gun control, but our schools are still too accessible. How will you fix that?

 

[beagle9]

The school authorities could just advise the students to stop tormenting other students. These children imagine they are going to drive their target to suicide. They don't always. Sometimes these bullied students come back with guns and bombs. Just an observation. The girls mostly commit suicide. It's the boys that kill their tormentors.

An armed society is a polite society. It should be taught as a class in school.

As an observation, that sounds like a good idea to have a class that teaches about guns, gun safety, guns for self defense, when to use guns, and when to not use them. Excellent idea, and can't believe it hasn't been thought of yet. It could start with the 4th graders just like a parent teaching gun safety and firearms to their children. It would work under conservatives doing the teaching, but not under liberals doing the teaching.

 

[beagle9]

The school authorities could just advise the students to stop tormenting other students. These children imagine they are going to drive their target to suicide. They don't always. Sometimes these bullied students come back with guns and bombs. Just an observation. The girls mostly commit suicide. It's the boys that kill their tormentors.

An armed society is a polite society. It should be taught as a class in school.

This woman was found guilty of texting and convincing her boyfriend into committing suicide in those text.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Does anyone have a link of a media outlet(s) saying they would no longer post pictures of these shooters? I know it happened; I've seen/read it in the past.

 

[Issa]

Obviously....duh.... security at schools need to be made to resemble federal government buildings. Time for people to buckle up their chin straps. Highly trained security. The kids will get used to it. Or we can continue to play makey-uppey let's continue to navigate in Disney.

Went to school overseas 0 mass shooting, heck 0 shooting...God damn it 0 shooting outside school...**** 0 shooting in malls, streets, or public places....you know why? Because it was a gun free country. I dont know anyone who knew anyone who saw a gun. Its doable Merica , it ain't the 1800s.

Pure fantasy. Completely made up.

I know for those who never lived in s gun free country.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Just wondering if there's evidence of this, or if it's innuendo / speculation?

 

[beagle9]

I feel sorry for the kid, myself. Been there, done that...minus the killing of the tormentors. Dad had a gun. So did mom. But I never went so far as to do what the kid did. However...from reports, and intuition of my own, I think the kid was maybe bullied or abused at home, too. He had no place to turn. Hence the "badass" he tried to portray on social media and even there, he didn't have many friends. To end the torment...he wanted to die and take them with him. Maybe he was afraid to tell his dad. Did he even have a mom? Maybe he did tell them and he was laughed at by them too, or called names. I told my mom when it was happening to me. She did nothing. I didn't tell my dad...until I finally had enough and ran home a sobbing mess. He didn't call me a chickenshit, or make me feel worse. He is the one that taught me to fight. He said "never start a fight, honey. But protect yourself. And this is how". He moved all the furniture from the living room to the side and he gave me many lessons on how to fight, how to protect myself, where to punch/hit/grab. After that...I went back to school (from being kept home by Dad for a week), and had more self confidence in myself. The bullies found out soon enough I was not as weak as they thought I was...and I realized it too.



Anyway....that kid had enough. ALL of them that did school shootings had enough. You can blame guns, parents, jiffy peanut butter if you want. But the ROOT is the school itself and the bullies that get away with their shit.

Most bullying today is not pushing kids down in halls or beating them up after school. It's much more subtle and much more painful than physical bulling.

Today, young people network far more and far more intensive than older generations. Kids today seem to always have their nose in a computer, tablet, or cell phone so parents think their kids are social isolated but in fact, they are constantly interfacing with other kids. They form very strong relations as much on line as they do in person. And when those relations go south they fall into the worst form of bullying, verbal and social bulling. They attempt to exclude the person from their group, often spreading vicious rumors, taunting and teasing, name calling, and saying or doing whatever to convince the group to reject the person. Many teens consider being rejected by their friends as the worst thing that can happen to them, far more serious than failing grades, or breaking rules or laws. There reactions too often is drugs, attempting suicide or striking back violently.

IMHO, we as a society are failing miserably at dealing with the problem.

After this shooting I admit that I thought to myself hmmm, maybe these sites like Facebook, Snapchat or other forms of social media platforms or social interaction sites in which these students or young folks are using so much of now, should be shut down or made off limits to anyone under 21 years of age or if that is a problem then just make the internet for business interactions only maybe. No more social media unless it can be broken down into a more manageable thing that can be policed better or monitored better than what it has been in the past.

Maybe shut them down for two years in regards to anyone under age 21 using them, and then see if the problem stops. Make these children go find friends and team up in their communities like the old days again, and get them free from the internet or social media as their addictive platform being used on the internet for which could be the major contributor to this thing now going on.

Hey, Zuckerberg has made enough money off these kids already. It's time to recognize the problem if it has become a major contributor to the problem, and help to stop this tragic problem going on today.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Just wondering if there's evidence of this, or if it's innuendo / speculation?

Fact Dyke from MSD shooting admitting to bullying the shooter.

 

[beagle9]

Obviously....duh.... security at schools need to be made to resemble federal government buildings. Time for people to buckle up their chin straps. Highly trained security. The kids will get used to it. Or we can continue to play makey-uppey let's continue to navigate in Disney.

Went to school overseas 0 mass shooting, heck 0 shooting...God damn it 0 shooting outside school...**** 0 shooting in malls, streets, or public places....you know why? Because it was a gun free country. I dont know anyone who knew anyone who saw a gun. Its doable Merica , it ain't the 1800s.

Nazi Germany is what you want, where after a few leadership changes, and you possibly get a tyrant who wants to destroy you and your culture, then you have no resistance to that situation ? How about looking at what has taken place in the world, and how governments were able to kill millions without their resistance of.

You want that here ?? We are free because we don't follow the world, and it will be that there is some corrections to be made. Stay tuned.

While waiting for that tyrant to come, the population is shooting each other. What a stupid argument.

Nope, not stupid at all... You know it but your agenda has you muzzled.

Grow up in a gun free country we had 0 mass shootings. Enjoy your gun and stay stuck in the 1800s...the world is laughing at your stupidity and I mean the whole world.

Who cares what the world thinks ?? This is America, and this is our problem to solve.

 

[Geaux4it]

1. Hopefully my lawful USMB friends have added a weapon and some ammo to their inventories. Full safes are very American

-Geaux

 

[beagle9]

Santa Fe High School shooting: Suspect in custody, assistant principal says - CNN

Details still breaking.

When will this end?

Right here in the middle of gun country, Texans call for more guns in the schools. I say let's arm the students. Oh, I guess they're already armed. Well then let's arm the teachers. Maybe Mrs. Jones with a 45 strapped to her side can bring order to her third grade class.

The ‘good guy with a gun’ myth is in fact a myth.

Citizens have the right to carry firearms pursuant to lawful self-defense – not to act in the capacity of law enforcement, to deter crime, or to prevent school shootings.

Like that moron who showed up at the school AFTER the shooting.

Correct.

A moron who, had he shown up ‘on time,’ would have likely ended up dead himself, killed by LE – or he would have otherwise killed innocent students not knowing the identity of the actual shooter.

Conservatives continue to propagate the ‘good guy with a gun’ lie because they feel the wrongheaded need to somehow ‘justify’ gun ownership where such ‘justification’ is not necessary, the consequence of rightwing ignorance, insecurity, and fear.

Citizens are not required to ‘justify’ the exercising of a fundamental right – such as the individual right to possess a handgun – as a ‘prerequisite’ to indeed do so.

The burden rests solely with government to justify placing limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights.

Give it up already, you are wasting your time spewing your leftist ideology. The right to defend ones property and ones person will not change or be trampled upon by the left.. Period end of story.

 

[Issa]

Went to school overseas 0 mass shooting, heck 0 shooting...God damn it 0 shooting outside school...**** 0 shooting in malls, streets, or public places....you know why? Because it was a gun free country. I dont know anyone who knew anyone who saw a gun. Its doable Merica , it ain't the 1800s.

Nazi Germany is what you want, where after a few leadership changes, and you possibly get a tyrant who wants to destroy you and your culture, then you have no resistance to that situation ? How about looking at what has taken place in the world, and how governments were able to kill millions without their resistance of.

You want that here ?? We are free because we don't follow the world, and it will be that there is some corrections to be made. Stay tuned.

While waiting for that tyrant to come, the population is shooting each other. What a stupid argument.

Nope, not stupid at all... You know it but your agenda has you muzzled.

Grow up in a gun free country we had 0 mass shootings. Enjoy your gun and stay stuck in the 1800s...the world is laughing at your stupidity and I mean the whole world.

Who cares what the world thinks ?? This is America, and this is our problem to solve.

The world looks at you like we look at the Taliban. Still regressive when it comes to governance and guns. Pathetic...kids gets gunned down in schools.

 

[beagle9]

Nazi Germany is what you want, where after a few leadership changes, and you possibly get a tyrant who wants to destroy you and your culture, then you have no resistance to that situation ? How about looking at what has taken place in the world, and how governments were able to kill millions without their resistance of.

You want that here ?? We are free because we don't follow the world, and it will be that there is some corrections to be made. Stay tuned.

While waiting for that tyrant to come, the population is shooting each other. What a stupid argument.

Nope, not stupid at all... You know it but your agenda has you muzzled.

Grow up in a gun free country we had 0 mass shootings. Enjoy your gun and stay stuck in the 1800s...the world is laughing at your stupidity and I mean the whole world.

Who cares what the world thinks ?? This is America, and this is our problem to solve.

The world looks at you like we look at the Taliban. Still regressive when it comes to governance and guns. Pathetic...kids gets gunned down in schools.

Again, who cares what the world thinks of this nation, it is our problem to solve and it will be solved. The left might not like the fix, but who cares about that anymore ? No one cares but the left who still thinks that they will be fundementally changing this nation into their utopic leftist fantasy land.

Ever watch the Trueman story, it doesn't work (a perfect world), otherwise like you think. Freedom is in our DNA, and it ain't changing no time soon.

 

[skye]

Armed police officers are needed for every school.

Only way to prevent future tragedies.

Nonsense.

Not nonsense.

Educate yourself!



Feb 21, 2018
Mass shooting plot at SoCal high school allegedly thwarted by alert security guard

Yes, nonsense.

There are other ways to prevent future tragedies besides armed guards.

Indeed, such tragedies have occurred with armed SROs on site, so clearly it’s not the only way to prevent school shootings.

And given your ignorance and stupidity exhibited by your posts, you’re in no position to admonish others to ‘educate’ themselves.

You are a fool, an incurably Leftist fool....it's useless talking to you.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I give up. This is the new normal. I live 30 miles from Mexico, and the Federales down there are armed with military type automatic rifles. The NRA is not going to be happy until America is just like Mexico, except that the guns will be legal. Whoppee-ki-yi-yah....

Glad you give up, now let calmer and more cooler heads work to figure this thing out. Guns aren't the problem. Guns are the answer when in the hands of good people trying to protect people like you from bad people who are a problem... The school issue will be resolved, but corporate America and government will have to join forces to fix this problem. Quit hording the money from the schools, and get this mess straightened out already.

We already know your solution, Beagle. More guns. How has that been working out for ya since Columbine?

My guns have killed no one, so what's your point ? It matters not how many guns there is, but what kind of society we have getting access to them is an issue for sure now.

We as American's are not in the business of correcting the mistakes made by the Demon-crats by giving up our rights and freedoms, so stay tuned as the solutions you might not like or agree with (don't know where you stand completely), but the Demon-crats knew what they were creating, and now the country will fix it without destroying the rights and freedoms of those who are good.

Another RW nut, afraid that someone is going to take your gun away, and then you would be defenseless against the black helicopters.