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Yes, Putin is like Hitler

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The stupid, it...burns...
They are suggesting a "4th booster" now, so clearly over 2 years, that is every 6 months.
So then it is not a vaccine, but just a temporary treatment that increases antibodies.

None of the vaccines are at all different, and they can't be, because none of the covid spike proteins can change.
They are not arbitrary, but have to exactly mimic our exosomes, so that the ACE2 receptor sites on our cells can be fooled into opening up by these spike proteins.
If the spike proteins were to ever change on the virus, then the ACE2 receptors would no longer be fooled by them and no longer let the virus in.
 

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They are suggesting a "4th booster" now, so clearly over 2 years, that is every 6 months.
Irrelevant to your lie.it is the nature of the virus that causes our immune system to lose immunity more quickly. Viruses vary. You had three or four boosters against some diseases when you were a child.
 
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This isn't about the fucking vaccine!

FYI The Sputnik vaccine is pretty good.

Too bad the Russian army sucks ass!

 

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Irrelevant to your lie.it is the nature of the virus that causes our immune system to lose immunity more quickly. Viruses vary. You had three or four boosters against some diseases when you were a child.

Wrong.
Boosters only exist for tetanus, nothing else.
And that is at a 10 year interval at the very least.
Some vaccinations, like Polio, were from 2 shots and an oral pill, but that was not boosters.
That was because they wanted to keep the dose down, as a precaution.

Again, go back to the science.
A vaccine has to have a dead pathogen so that the T-cells can remember something about the pathogen.
There is nothing in the mRNA injections to remember, so immunity memory is totally and completely impossible.

If you want to say that the generated spike protein is enough for the immune system to remember, that has to be false, because the covid spike protein did not vary over all the variants, and has to remain identical to the spike protein used by our own exosomes.
 

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This isn't about the fucking vaccine!

FYI The Sputnik vaccine is pretty good.

Too bad the Russian army sucks ass!


But as good as stinger and javelin missiles are, they are expensive, will run out, and the Russians have to win.
So the more missiles the Ukrainians get, the more people die on both sides.
It would be best to simply restart negotiations.
It was the Ukraine that cut off negotiations, not Russia.
 
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But as good as stinger and javelin missiles are, they are expensive, will run out, and the Russians have to win.
So the more missiles the Ukrainians get, the more people die on both sides.
It would be best to simply restart negotiations.
It was the Ukraine that cut off negotiations, not Russia.

 
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The reality is that there was some validity to Hitler taking back parts of Germany stolen by WWI, that the allies started.
It is only when he took France that he went too far, and even that was the fault of the French attacking first.

But Putin is much more innocent, since Zelensky stole oil, violated treaties, murder 14k ethnic Russians, and tried to get NATO nukes.
Total lies, Alyosha.

And anyway, Ukraine was promised its borders would remain unchanged in the Budapest Memorandum. They should have kept the 1900 nukes they gave to Russia in exchange for false security promises.

Although Zelensky did not ask for nukes.
 

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Total lies, Alyosha.

And anyway, Ukraine was promised its borders would remain unchanged in the Budapest Memorandum. They should have kept the 1900 nukes they gave to Russia in exchange for false security promises.

Although Zelensky did not ask for nukes.

The Ukraine was promised its borders would remain unchanged if they did not abuse the ethnic Russian within those borders, not steal oil, not try to join NATO and specifically request western weapons, like stinger missiles, javelin missiles, and nukes.

Zelensky not only asked illegally for NATO nukes and a NATO no-fly-zone, but suggested that the Ukraine would build its own nukes.

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Breaking Tuesday, Zelensky expressed a suggestion that Kyiv should consider building a nuclear weapons program. Speaking to the Munich Security Conference, Zelensky said “We see an attack on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of our state.
...}
 
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The Ukraine was promised its borders would remain unchanged if they did not abuse the ethnic Russian within those borders, not steal oil, not try to join NATO and specifically request western weapons, like stinger missiles, javelin missiles, and nukes.

Zelensky not only asked illegally for NATO nukes and a NATO no-fly-zone, but suggested that the Ukraine would build its own nukes.

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Breaking Tuesday, Zelensky expressed a suggestion that Kyiv should consider building a nuclear weapons program. Speaking to the Munich Security Conference, Zelensky said “We see an attack on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of our state.
...}

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Excellent thread on why ethnic Russians in Ukraine are fighting the Russians so hard. Basically, it’s because Putin manufactured a war in the Donbas, turned it into a shithole, and Ukrainians don’t want to live like that.

 

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No, he is not like Hitler seeing Hitler killed six million Jews and Putin can’t even take out one Jewish Comedian…

Putin is a poor man Mussolini at best or just another Napoleon…
 

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Not in a desire to commit genocide against a people.But he is trying to expand Russian territory as Hitler tried.


We first have to think about what Vladimir Putin has done and the nature of what we’re facing. People don’t want to talk about Adolf Hitler and World War II, but I’m going to talk about it. Obviously the major element when you talk about World War II, which is overwhelming, is the Holocaust and the absolute decimation of the Jewish population of Europe, as well as the Roma-Sinti people.​
But let’s focus here on the territorial expansionism of Germany, what Germany did under Hitler in that period: seizure of the Sudetenland and the Anschluss or annexation of Austria, all on the basis that they were German speakers. The invasion of Poland. The treaty with the Soviet Union, the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, that also enabled the Soviet Union to take portions of Poland but then became a prelude to Operation Barbarossa, the German invasion of the Soviet Union. Invasions of France and all of the countries surrounding Germany, including Denmark and further afield to Norway. Germany eventually engaged in a burst of massive territorial expansion and occupation. Eventually the Soviet Union fought back. Vladimir Putin’s own family suffered during the siege of Leningrad, and yet here is Vladimir Putin doing exactly the same thing.​

Reynolds: So, similar to Hitler, he’s using a sense of massive historical grievance combined with a veneer of protecting Russians and a dismissal of the rights of minorities and other nations to have independent countries in order to fuel territorial ambitions?​
Hill: Correct. And he’s blaming others, for why this has happened, and getting us to blame ourselves.​
If people look back to the history of World War II, there were an awful lot of people around Europe who became Nazi German sympathizers before the invasion of Poland. In the United Kingdom, there was a whole host of British politicians who admired Hitler’s strength and his power, for doing what Great Powers do, before the horrors of the Blitz and the Holocaust finally penetrated.​
Reynolds: And you see this now.​
Hill: You totally see it. Unfortunately, we have politicians and public figures in the United States and around Europe who have embraced the idea that Russia was wronged by NATO and that Putin is a strong, powerful man and has the right to do what he’s doing: Because Ukraine is somehow not worthy of independence, because it’s either Russia’s historical lands or Ukrainians are Russians, or the Ukrainian leaders are — this is what Putin says — “drug addled, fascist Nazis” or whatever labels he wants to apply here.​

So sadly, we are treading back through old historical patterns that we said that we would never permit to happen again. The other thing to think about in this larger historic context is how much the German business community helped facilitate the rise of Hitler. Right now, everyone who has been doing business in Russia or buying Russian gas and oil has contributed to Putin’s war chest. Our investments are not just boosting business profits, or Russia’s sovereign wealth funds and its longer-term development. They now are literally the fuel for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.​

Trump expressed his admiration for Putin last night at his rally in Georgia.
 
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Actually, Putin is a lot like Stalin.

The Memorial organization, which researched the crimes of Communism, including Stalin's worst abuses, has been closed down by Putin.

And 400,000 refugees from Ukraine have been relocated, many to remote parts of Russia.
 

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Not in a desire to commit genocide against a people.But he is trying to expand Russian territory as Hitler tried.


We first have to think about what Vladimir Putin has done and the nature of what we’re facing. People don’t want to talk about Adolf Hitler and World War II, but I’m going to talk about it. Obviously the major element when you talk about World War II, which is overwhelming, is the Holocaust and the absolute decimation of the Jewish population of Europe, as well as the Roma-Sinti people.​
But let’s focus here on the territorial expansionism of Germany, what Germany did under Hitler in that period: seizure of the Sudetenland and the Anschluss or annexation of Austria, all on the basis that they were German speakers. The invasion of Poland. The treaty with the Soviet Union, the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, that also enabled the Soviet Union to take portions of Poland but then became a prelude to Operation Barbarossa, the German invasion of the Soviet Union. Invasions of France and all of the countries surrounding Germany, including Denmark and further afield to Norway. Germany eventually engaged in a burst of massive territorial expansion and occupation. Eventually the Soviet Union fought back. Vladimir Putin’s own family suffered during the siege of Leningrad, and yet here is Vladimir Putin doing exactly the same thing.​

Reynolds: So, similar to Hitler, he’s using a sense of massive historical grievance combined with a veneer of protecting Russians and a dismissal of the rights of minorities and other nations to have independent countries in order to fuel territorial ambitions?​
Hill: Correct. And he’s blaming others, for why this has happened, and getting us to blame ourselves.​
If people look back to the history of World War II, there were an awful lot of people around Europe who became Nazi German sympathizers before the invasion of Poland. In the United Kingdom, there was a whole host of British politicians who admired Hitler’s strength and his power, for doing what Great Powers do, before the horrors of the Blitz and the Holocaust finally penetrated.​
Reynolds: And you see this now.​
Hill: You totally see it. Unfortunately, we have politicians and public figures in the United States and around Europe who have embraced the idea that Russia was wronged by NATO and that Putin is a strong, powerful man and has the right to do what he’s doing: Because Ukraine is somehow not worthy of independence, because it’s either Russia’s historical lands or Ukrainians are Russians, or the Ukrainian leaders are — this is what Putin says — “drug addled, fascist Nazis” or whatever labels he wants to apply here.​

So sadly, we are treading back through old historical patterns that we said that we would never permit to happen again. The other thing to think about in this larger historic context is how much the German business community helped facilitate the rise of Hitler. Right now, everyone who has been doing business in Russia or buying Russian gas and oil has contributed to Putin’s war chest. Our investments are not just boosting business profits, or Russia’s sovereign wealth funds and its longer-term development. They now are literally the fuel for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.​

Wow, so many national leaders have sought expansion. There’s James Polk, Louis XIV, David Ben Gurion... Are they all Hitler?

Not all nationalists are madmen who will stop at nothing to achieve world domination. Let’s give the exhausted Hitler analogy a rest.
 

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The Ukraine was promised its borders would remain unchanged if they did not abuse the ethnic Russian within those borders, not steal oil, not try to join NATO and specifically request western weapons, like stinger missiles, javelin missiles, and nukes.

Zelensky not only asked illegally for NATO nukes and a NATO no-fly-zone, but suggested that the Ukraine would build its own nukes.

{....
Breaking Tuesday, Zelensky expressed a suggestion that Kyiv should consider building a nuclear weapons program. Speaking to the Munich Security Conference, Zelensky said “We see an attack on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of our state.
...}
A bunch of lies.

Anyone can read the agreement and see these are lies.
 

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Originally posted by Thunderbird
Wow, so many national leaders have sought expansion. There’s James Polk, Louis XIV, David Ben Gurion... Are they all Hitler?

Not all nationalists are madmen who will stop at nothing to achieve world domination. Let’s give the exhausted Hitler analogy a rest.

According to the super patriotic american clowns of the US Message Board, only western countries are allowed to have "spheres of influence", aka, "backyards".
 

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