Yale researchers have found immune system exhaustion and prolonged spike protein production in some Covid jab recipients

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These mRNA vaccines are the disaster some of us predicted they would be.

This study is frightening. What it describes as happening to people is basically AIDS.



A Yale University team led by a top immunologist has found that some people who received the Covid vaccines have damage to their immune systems, as well as high and rising levels of spike protein in their blood. The researchers released the findings Wednesday in a “preprint” and hope to publish it soon in a peer-reviewed journal.

How often these problems occur or if the immune system damage might open people to infections is unclear as yet. But immune system damage the researchers found is similar though not identical to changes caused by HIV, the human immunodeficiency virus, that can eventually lead to AIDS.

The researchers also found Covid spike protein — the protein mRNA Covid jabs from Pfizer and Moderna cause our cells to make — in the blood of patients up to two years after vaccination. I first wrote about that finding in December, but it looks even more serious now that the preprint is out.

The findings come from the Yale LISTEN study, which was initially designed to track people with self-reported post-Covid injuries. It has now expanded to examine what the study’s leaders call PVS, or “post-vaccine syndrome” — people who have reported autoimmune and other problems falling Covid jabs.

The study found that patients with post-vaccine syndrome had low levels of crucial CD4 “helper” T-cells, and some of their CD8 “killer” T-cells showed evidence of what immunologists call exhaustion. “

The study is small, comparing only 42 people with post-vaccine syndrome to 22 control patients who enrolled in the study who did not have similar problems. Further, this study was not prospectively enrolled. In other words, the researchers do not have T-cell data from people before they received Covid shots, so for now they cannot prove the jabs caused any immune dysfunction.

This problem is fundamental to any data from an “observational” study like LISTEN and difficult to correct. However, Pfizer and Moderna may have been sequential collecting T-cell data on at least some people they enrolled in their clinical trials in 2020. In that case, it should be possible to examine how T-cell levels in those patients have changed over time.

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These mRNA vaccines are the disaster some of us predicted they would be.

This study is frightening. What it describes as happening to people is basically AIDS.


A Yale University team led by a top immunologist has found that some people who received the Covid vaccines have damage to their immune systems, as well as high and rising levels of spike protein in their blood. The researchers released the findings Wednesday in a “preprint” and hope to publish it soon in a peer-reviewed journal.
How often these problems occur or if the immune system damage might open people to infections is unclear as yet. But immune system damage the researchers found is similar though not identical to changes caused by HIV, the human immunodeficiency virus, that can eventually lead to AIDS.
The researchers also found Covid spike protein — the protein mRNA Covid jabs from Pfizer and Moderna cause our cells to make — in the blood of patients up to two years after vaccination. I first wrote about that finding in December, but it looks even more serious now that the preprint is out.
The findings come from the Yale LISTEN study, which was initially designed to track people with self-reported post-Covid injuries. It has now expanded to examine what the study’s leaders call PVS, or “post-vaccine syndrome” — people who have reported autoimmune and other problems falling Covid jabs.
The study found that patients with post-vaccine syndrome had low levels of crucial CD4 “helper” T-cells, and some of their CD8 “killer” T-cells showed evidence of what immunologists call exhaustion. “
The study is small, comparing only 42 people with post-vaccine syndrome to 22 control patients who enrolled in the study who did not have similar problems. Further, this study was not prospectively enrolled. In other words, the researchers do not have T-cell data from people before they received Covid shots, so for now they cannot prove the jabs caused any immune dysfunction.
This problem is fundamental to any data from an “observational” study like LISTEN and difficult to correct. However, Pfizer and Moderna may have been sequential collecting T-cell data on at least some people they enrolled in their clinical trials in 2020. In that case, it should be possible to examine how T-cell levels in those patients have changed over time.
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not to toot own horn, but I sorta called this back in 2021. I may have had a detail or two wrong....but I was right on target with the premise...



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How many "clot shots" were advised after the first two? I remember at least two more.

At least those that got the first two, and no others, are out of the woods by now.
I feel safer though I've had Covid TWICE since the shots. Remember when they said "get the shots and you won't get Covid"; they LIED!! BTW; all I wanted was for the severity of Covid be reduced; IF it did that I'm quite OK with it. Though to be clear; I was AWARE that it was experimental. Many were not!!!

Greg
 
These mRNA vaccines are the disaster some of us predicted they would be.

This study is frightening. What it describes as happening to people is basically AIDS.


A Yale University team led by a top immunologist has found that some people who received the Covid vaccines have damage to their immune systems, as well as high and rising levels of spike protein in their blood. The researchers released the findings Wednesday in a “preprint” and hope to publish it soon in a peer-reviewed journal.
How often these problems occur or if the immune system damage might open people to infections is unclear as yet. But immune system damage the researchers found is similar though not identical to changes caused by HIV, the human immunodeficiency virus, that can eventually lead to AIDS.
The researchers also found Covid spike protein — the protein mRNA Covid jabs from Pfizer and Moderna cause our cells to make — in the blood of patients up to two years after vaccination. I first wrote about that finding in December, but it looks even more serious now that the preprint is out.
The findings come from the Yale LISTEN study, which was initially designed to track people with self-reported post-Covid injuries. It has now expanded to examine what the study’s leaders call PVS, or “post-vaccine syndrome” — people who have reported autoimmune and other problems falling Covid jabs.
The study found that patients with post-vaccine syndrome had low levels of crucial CD4 “helper” T-cells, and some of their CD8 “killer” T-cells showed evidence of what immunologists call exhaustion. “
The study is small, comparing only 42 people with post-vaccine syndrome to 22 control patients who enrolled in the study who did not have similar problems. Further, this study was not prospectively enrolled. In other words, the researchers do not have T-cell data from people before they received Covid shots, so for now they cannot prove the jabs caused any immune dysfunction.
This problem is fundamental to any data from an “observational” study like LISTEN and difficult to correct. However, Pfizer and Moderna may have been sequential collecting T-cell data on at least some people they enrolled in their clinical trials in 2020. In that case, it should be possible to examine how T-cell levels in those patients have changed over time.
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nope


you and your analysis are just plain dumb
 
These mRNA vaccines are the disaster some of us predicted they would be.

This study is frightening. What it describes as happening to people is basically AIDS.


A Yale University team led by a top immunologist has found that some people who received the Covid vaccines have damage to their immune systems, as well as high and rising levels of spike protein in their blood. The researchers released the findings Wednesday in a “preprint” and hope to publish it soon in a peer-reviewed journal.
How often these problems occur or if the immune system damage might open people to infections is unclear as yet. But immune system damage the researchers found is similar though not identical to changes caused by HIV, the human immunodeficiency virus, that can eventually lead to AIDS.
The researchers also found Covid spike protein — the protein mRNA Covid jabs from Pfizer and Moderna cause our cells to make — in the blood of patients up to two years after vaccination. I first wrote about that finding in December, but it looks even more serious now that the preprint is out.
The findings come from the Yale LISTEN study, which was initially designed to track people with self-reported post-Covid injuries. It has now expanded to examine what the study’s leaders call PVS, or “post-vaccine syndrome” — people who have reported autoimmune and other problems falling Covid jabs.
The study found that patients with post-vaccine syndrome had low levels of crucial CD4 “helper” T-cells, and some of their CD8 “killer” T-cells showed evidence of what immunologists call exhaustion. “
The study is small, comparing only 42 people with post-vaccine syndrome to 22 control patients who enrolled in the study who did not have similar problems. Further, this study was not prospectively enrolled. In other words, the researchers do not have T-cell data from people before they received Covid shots, so for now they cannot prove the jabs caused any immune dysfunction.
This problem is fundamental to any data from an “observational” study like LISTEN and difficult to correct. However, Pfizer and Moderna may have been sequential collecting T-cell data on at least some people they enrolled in their clinical trials in 2020. In that case, it should be possible to examine how T-cell levels in those patients have changed over time.
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All I needed to see was a medical journal report describing how the mRNA "vaccine" forces our cells to sprout spike proteins. No ******* way I'm putting that shit in my body.
 
I feel safer though I've had Covid TWICE since the shots. Remember when they said "get the shots and you won't get Covid"; they LIED!! BTW; all I wanted was for the severity of Covid be reduced; IF it did that I'm quite OK with it. Though to be clear; I was AWARE that it was experimental. Many were not!!!

Greg
They said, "If you get the shot and you then get COVID, it won't be as severe!"...with absolutely no way to prove that statement.
 
nope


you and your analysis are just plain dumb
You and candycorn are like a bumpkin from deep in the hills, who visits a big city zoo, sees the giraffe, and says, "There ain't no sich animal."

You've let people who exploit you define reality for you. You serve them well, but they've completely broken you.
 
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Really...who was the Yale Researcher?
Immunological and Antigenic Signatures Associated with Chronic Illnesses after1
COVID-19 Vaccination2
Bornali Bhattacharjee1,2 #, Peiwen Lu1 #, Valter Silva Monteiro1 #, Alexandra3
Tabachnikova1 #, Kexin Wang2,11 #, William B. Hooper1,2 #, Victoria Bastos1 #, Kerrie4
Greene1 #, Mitsuaki Sawano3, Christian Guirgis1,4, Tiffany J. Tzeng1,2, Frederick5
Warner3,5, Pavlina Baevova1,2, Kathy Kamath6, Jack Reifert6, Danice Hertz7, Brianne6
Dressen8, Laura Tabacof9, Jamie Wood9, Lily Cooke9, Mackenzie Doerstling9, Shadan7
Nolasco9, Amer Ahmed9, Amy Proal9,10, David Putrino9, Leying Guan2,11 *, Harlan M.8
Krumholz2,3,12 *, Akiko Iwasaki1,2,13 *9
Affiliations:10
1. Department of Immunobiology, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, CT,11
USA12
2. Center for Infection and Immunity, Yale School of Medicine, New Haven, CT, USA13
3. Section of Cardiovascular Medicine, Department of Internal Medicine, Yale School of14
Medicine, Yale New Haven Hospital Center for Outcomes Research and Evaluation,15
Yale New Haven Hospital, CT, USA16
4. Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology, Yale College, New17
Haven, CT, USA.18
5. Department of Internal Medicine, Yale School of Medicine, New Haven, CT, USA19
6. SerImmune, Goleta, CA USA20
7. Independent Researcher, CA, USA21
8. Independent Researcher, UT, USA22
9. Cohen Center for Recovery from Complex Chronic Illness, Department of23
Rehabilitation and Human Performance, Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, New24
York City, NY, USA25
10. Polybio Research Foundation, Boston, MA, USA26
11. Department of Biostatistics, Yale School of Public Health, New Haven, CT, USA27
12. Section of Cardiovascular Medicine, Department of Internal Medicine, Yale School28
of Medicine, New Haven, CT, USA29
13. Howard Hughes Medical Institute, Chevy Chase, MD, USA30
31
#: Indicates equal contribution32
*: Co-senior and corresponding authors33
Correspondence can be addressed to:34
leying.guan@yale.edu, harlan.krumholz@yale.edu, akiko.iwasaki@yale.edu

There are a couple of email addresses there. You can write to them and tell them NUH UH. I'm sure they'll retract immediately.
 
Immunological and Antigenic Signatures Associated with Chronic Illnesses after1
COVID-19 Vaccination2
Bornali Bhattacharjee1,2 #, Peiwen Lu1 #, Valter Silva Monteiro1 #, Alexandra3
Tabachnikova1 #, Kexin Wang2,11 #, William B. Hooper1,2 #, Victoria Bastos1 #, Kerrie4
Greene1 #, Mitsuaki Sawano3, Christian Guirgis1,4, Tiffany J. Tzeng1,2, Frederick5
Warner3,5, Pavlina Baevova1,2, Kathy Kamath6, Jack Reifert6, Danice Hertz7, Brianne6
Dressen8, Laura Tabacof9, Jamie Wood9, Lily Cooke9, Mackenzie Doerstling9, Shadan7
Nolasco9, Amer Ahmed9, Amy Proal9,10, David Putrino9, Leying Guan2,11 *, Harlan M.8
Krumholz2,3,12 *, Akiko Iwasaki1,2,13 *9
Affiliations:10
1. Department of Immunobiology, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, CT,11
USA12
2. Center for Infection and Immunity, Yale School of Medicine, New Haven, CT, USA13
3. Section of Cardiovascular Medicine, Department of Internal Medicine, Yale School of14
Medicine, Yale New Haven Hospital Center for Outcomes Research and Evaluation,15
Yale New Haven Hospital, CT, USA16
4. Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology, Yale College, New17
Haven, CT, USA.18
5. Department of Internal Medicine, Yale School of Medicine, New Haven, CT, USA19
6. SerImmune, Goleta, CA USA20
7. Independent Researcher, CA, USA21
8. Independent Researcher, UT, USA22
9. Cohen Center for Recovery from Complex Chronic Illness, Department of23
Rehabilitation and Human Performance, Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, New24
York City, NY, USA25
10. Polybio Research Foundation, Boston, MA, USA26
11. Department of Biostatistics, Yale School of Public Health, New Haven, CT, USA27
12. Section of Cardiovascular Medicine, Department of Internal Medicine, Yale School28
of Medicine, New Haven, CT, USA29
13. Howard Hughes Medical Institute, Chevy Chase, MD, USA30
31
#: Indicates equal contribution32
*: Co-senior and corresponding authors33
Correspondence can be addressed to:34
leying.guan@yale.edu, harlan.krumholz@yale.edu, akiko.iwasaki@yale.edu

There are a couple of email addresses there. You can write to them and tell them NUH UH. I'm sure they'll retract immediately.
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Sounds like a DEI hire there....are you sure you want to hang your hat on that?

PS: He works at the University of Vermont...not Yale.

Another one of your “Yale” guys works for a lab in NYC....not Yale. You clearly didn’t reseach this. Thinking makes your head hurt, doesnt’ it boy?
 

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