Xi Jinping vows Chinese 'reunification' with Taiwan in New Year speech

[shockedcanadian]

Trump and the Western world is going to have a serious challenge if and when China attacks Taiwan. It alone could determine Trumps place in history.

Hong Kong was the test balloon and the world failed.

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Chinese President Xi Jinping rang in the New Year with a national address from Beijing on Tuesday.

Xi notably asserted that "no one can stop" the reunification of Taiwan with China. Xi's government has routinely made threats to forcibly take over the self-governed island.

"The people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait are one family. No one can sever our family bonds, and no one can stop the historical trend of national reunification," Xi said in a speech televised on China's state broadcaster CCTV.

 

[lafayette]

Sure, sure, Xi.

 

[excalibur]

Now is the time, our military is at its weakest since Jimmy Carer's days.

Maybe thanks to DEI, even weaker.

 

[lafayette]

The Hatfields on Taiwan do not want to be part of the McCoys on the mainland.

 

[lafayette]

The American military at its weakest, excalibur, would leave China's bases, airfields, ports, vessels a smoking wasteland.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump will surrender Taiwan in a minute

But Taiwan would kick Chinas ass in a war

 

[JoeB131]

Trump and the Western world is going to have a serious challenge if and when China attacks Taiwan. It alone could determine Trumps place in history.

Hong Kong was the test balloon and the world failed.

Chinese President Xi Jinping rang in the New Year with a national address from Beijing on Tuesday.

Xi notably asserted that "no one can stop" the reunification of Taiwan with China. Xi's government has routinely made threats to forcibly take over the self-governed island.

"The people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait are one family. No one can sever our family bonds, and no one can stop the historical trend of national reunification," Xi said in a speech televised on China's state broadcaster CCTV.

Okay, he says something like that every year.

And every year, he doesn't invade Taiwan.

Here's the bigger problem. What legal grounds would we have to intervene (and risk WWIII) if they did invade?

Our own policy recognizes Taiwan as a part of China. This has been our position since the end of WWII, the only disconnect being which faction represents the legitimate government of China.

Same thing with Hong Kong. You almost have to admire the Chinese's restraint. They could have taken Hong Kong any time they wanted to. The British legal claim on it was bent as hell. (They got it after a war fought with China for the right to sell Opium to Chinese citizens.)

Why should China tolerate incursions in their internal affairs? No other country would tolerate this. If China started supporting Quebec Independence, you would be having a shit fit and you know it.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump will surrender Taiwan in a minute

But Taiwan would kick Chinas ass in a war

Not unless they have nukes.

China has a vastly larger military.

What would restrain China is that the economic fallout of trade stopping. But that would wreck the rest of the world's economy as well.

 

[JoeB131]

The Hatfields on Taiwan do not want to be part of the McCoys on the mainland.

I'm sure they don't.

Here's the problem a lot of the China haters don't get.

The history of China has been one of being abused by outside powers, particularly in the period between 1839 and 1949, the "Century of Humiliation".

Westerners wring their hands about Taiwan, or Hong Kong, or Tibet, or the Uighurs. The Chinese see these as issues of national sovereignty, where there is only a question because of the intervention of foreign powers.

 

[rightwinger]

Not unless they have nukes.

China has a vastly larger military.

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What would restrain China is that the economic fallout of trade stopping. But that would wreck the rest of the world's economy as well.

China has a military of 2 million and Taiwan has a military of 200,000 which means Taiwan would kick their asses

Why?

Because China has to land those 2 million in small groups that will face 200,000 entrenched troops. China lacks the landing craft for a massive invasion.
Taiwan has only 13 beaches suitable for landing and those beaches are surrounded by mountains with passes heavily defended
In addition, China has never fought a modern war especially an amphibious landing. Look at how easily masses of Russian tanks defeated Ukraine (kidding). And Russia was right on their border
Taiwan has antiship missiles, mines, subs, drones to sink any invasion force

 

[justoffal]

Now is the time, our military is at its weakest since Jimmy Carer's days.

Maybe thanks to DEI, even weaker.

Nonsense! Our soldiers will simply show a little leg from under their skirts and the Chinese will swoon!

 

[JoeB131]

China has a military of 2 million and Taiwan has a military of 200,000 which means Taiwan would kick their asses

Why?

Because China has to land those 2 million in small groups that will face 200,000 entrenched troops. China lacks the landing craft for a massive invasion.
Taiwan has only 13 beaches suitable for landing and those beaches are surrounded by mountains with passes heavily defended
In addition, China has never fought a modern war especially an amphibious landing. Look at how easily masses of Russian tanks defeated Ukraine (kidding). And Russia was right on their border
Taiwan has antiship missiles, mines, subs, drones to sink any invasion force

I don't think Ukraine is a good example. Ukraine is propped up by tons of western aid, and they are STILL losing territory right now.

I agree the PLA has a lot of limitations, in that they haven't fought a war since 1979.

The issue here is motivation. China is very big on territorial sovereignty. And we've seen them do amazing things when they put their minds to it.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't think Ukraine is a good example. Ukraine is propped up by tons of western aid, and they are STILL losing territory right now.

I agree the PLA has a lot of limitations, in that they haven't fought a war since 1979.

The issue here is motivation. China is very big on territorial sovereignty. And we've seen them do amazing things when they put their minds to it.

An invasion over 100 miles of ocean is much, much more complicated than Russia massing its tanks at the border and invading Ukraine. Russia failed miserably. Taiwan is much more of a challenge

The US (other than Trump), S Korea, Japan and Philippines would all assist Taiwan mostly with air and sea support.

Agree the key issue is motivation and China is not motivated to have its economic trade with the west interrupted for a very dangerous invasion of Taiwan

 

[lafayette]

It all depends on how good its helicopter and air transport craft and how many, for the PLA.

 

[justoffal]

An invasion over 100 miles of ocean is much, much more complicated than Russia massing its tanks at the border and invading Ukraine. Russia failed miserably. Taiwan is much more of a challenge

The US (other than Trump), S Korea, Japan and Philippines would all assist Taiwan mostly with air and sea support.

Agree the key issue is motivation and China is not motivated to have its economic trade with the west interrupted for a very dangerous invasion of Taiwan

That above all else would probably be the deterrent. Not losses, not military might, not even the US Navy. But the financial aspect which would be catastrophic would probably Trump all else.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump and the Western world is going to have a serious challenge if and when China attacks Taiwan. It alone could determine Trumps place in history.

Hong Kong was the test balloon and the world failed.

Cities across the globe wrap up 2024, ring in new year with celebrations

Fox News is ringing in the new year with live updates on celebrations across the globe. Major cities wrapped up their preparations to ring in the new year on Tuesday, and New York City was heightening security while preparing to kick of 2025 for the United States.

www.foxnews.com

Chinese President Xi Jinping rang in the New Year with a national address from Beijing on Tuesday.

Xi notably asserted that "no one can stop" the reunification of Taiwan with China. Xi's government has routinely made threats to forcibly take over the self-governed island.

"The people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait are one family. No one can sever our family bonds, and no one can stop the historical trend of national reunification," Xi said in a speech televised on China's state broadcaster CCTV.

Hong Kong was always going to be an impossible situation because Hong Kong is a part of China. China could do what it wanted and nobody could stop it.

Taiwan is a much more complex situation, right now Xi and the armed forces are fighting it out for power, Xi wants to have total control over the country, the armed forces don't want him to have that.

 

[justoffal]

Hong Kong was always going to be an impossible situation because Hong Kong is a part of China. China could do what it wanted and nobody could stop it.

Taiwan is a much more complex situation, right now Xi and the armed forces are fighting it out for power, Xi wants to have total control over the country, the armed forces don't want him to have that.

Can't blame them....

 

[JoeB131]

An invasion over 100 miles of ocean is much, much more complicated than Russia massing its tanks at the border and invading Ukraine. Russia failed miserably. Taiwan is much more of a challenge

The US (other than Trump), S Korea, Japan and Philippines would all assist Taiwan mostly with air and sea support.

Agree the key issue is motivation and China is not motivated to have its economic trade with the west interrupted for a very dangerous invasion of Taiwan

I agree, under normal circumstances, they probably wouldn't.

But if Taiwan declared itself independent, they'd really have no choice.

 

[justoffal]

I agree, under normal circumstances, they probably wouldn't.

But if Taiwan declared itself independent, they'd really have no choice.

How far do you think they would go? My guess is that Taiwan sees itself as independent....but is too smart to light that fuse....

 

[Kruska]

Trump will surrender Taiwan in a minute

Very likely

But Taiwan would kick Chinas ass in a war

Keep dreaming