Would you support impeachment of Obama for "stealing" our money and giving it to his

[Texanmike]

Friends and supporters? This shouldn't be limited to just Obama either.

Congress needs to pass some kind of law making it criminal to put money into bills for friends and supporters. This shit has to stop. Obamas supporters alone have received over a billion dollars for nothing more than being a supporter. It's criminal, period. Left, right it doesn't matter. I'm well aware this has been a problem across both isles but its time to put a stop to this practice.

OBAMA IS A THIEF. AND HE IS DOING IT RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES.

I appreciate the point but you are wrong. You cannot impeach Obama for what he's done with money. First of all, he doesn't do it. Congress does. You don't impeach someone over politics. We elect these people and it is not surprising that he would attempt to hire/give contracts to people he knows/trusts. Suddenly, if you are elected to office you are supposed to cut ties with all of your associates? We, the voters, knew what he was when we elected him. Elections have consequences. If you don't like the result then you should have worked harder to change the minds of the people around you. Set up a website, campaign with a poster... talk to your neighbors take out ads on the radio... Obama is no more a thief than anyone else in office. Now if you want to say he's an imbecile, fine. Does he make bad decisions? Sure. Do I agree with any policy he has endorced? No.

Guess what. I didn't work enough to prevent him from getting elected either. I didn't talk to enough people. I didn't scream loud enough. I ignored when bush did the same thing (until the bailouts) I excused the medicare thing. Our own party (my former party) actually nominated an old bleached version of Obama. How did we do any better?

The only reason I ranted like this is because when you make a rhetorical point like yours it makes people less receptive to you when you are actually arguing a valid point. I agree with much of what you say on the surface but you aren't trying to convince me. We will be more successful in getting our candidate (by the way we disagree on enough things that we probably have different ideal candidates) elected if we focus more on real arguments and less on rhetoric.

Mike

That is not my understanding, Mike. I believe it was just the administration who found the receivers of the benefits. Remember how the Bush administration had nixed Solyndra calling it" not ready for Prime Time", but the Obama team overruled that and put it on the fast track.

Now we learn that they just gave away another billion.

When the administration starts giving away loads of our tax dollars to their donor buddies who have troubled assets and balance sheets, I tthink we should start looking at the law books for a crime that was committed. Conflicts of Interest is not a crime, but we know there should be a harsher, ethical and legal conflict that will work.

But that is not necessarily an illegal activity. Bush didn't think it was ready. Obama did. I wish we would stop with the tax and spend but for now we can't. I we LET them spend the money. The Republicans are fools. So are the Democrats. If you empower the government to spend your money while your team is in power you can't complain when the other team is in power. See reason number 1 for why I am no longer a Republican. Either way, you cannot impeach someone just because you disagree with them.

Mike

 

[Texanmike]

You can't twist the facts fast enough can you?

And ... that would be a no. You have no proof. None. Zero.

All you got is hate. As usual.

I got plenty of disgust for the clueless Fuck Head that is crippling our country all the while blowing through our bank account like a drunk at a craps table. Hate? Not on that level yet but its not far away.

Proof of bullshit practices isn't needed when your head isn't so far up Obamas ass that you CAN SEE what he is doing.

This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen. Respect the office of the President. Call him stupid, fine. Keep it classy. I don't like his policies and I think they are dumb but come on man. I serve under him. Don't like or agree but have to serve. This is a party foul man and part of the reason that you won't ever succeed in changing a single person's mind. You are blinded by your own hatred for the other side, so much so that you will never educate anyone or change anyone's mind. EVER. What's the point?

Mike

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

And ... that would be a no. You have no proof. None. Zero.

All you got is hate. As usual.

I got plenty of disgust for the clueless Fuck Head that is crippling our country all the while blowing through our bank account like a drunk at a craps table. Hate? Not on that level yet but its not far away.

Proof of bullshit practices isn't needed when your head isn't so far up Obamas ass that you CAN SEE what he is doing.

This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen. Respect the office of the President. Call him stupid, fine. Keep it classy. I don't like his policies and I think they are dumb but come on man. I serve under him. Don't like or agree but have to serve. This is a party foul man and part of the reason that you won't ever succeed in changing a single person's mind. You are blinded by your own hatred for the other side, so much so that you will never educate anyone or change anyone's mind. EVER. What's the point?

Mike

If that's the worst post you've ever seen then you clearly havnt read much on here. This man is single handidly destroying MY BUSINESS so I have no respect to offer him. And there is not one mind on this board to be changed. I'm not here to change minds, I'm here to express mine.

 

[Big Black Dog]

He can keep all the money if he just leaves quietly.

 

[Kevinthedog]

I got plenty of disgust for the clueless Fuck Head that is crippling our country all the while blowing through our bank account like a drunk at a craps table. Hate? Not on that level yet but its not far away.

Proof of bullshit practices isn't needed when your head isn't so far up Obamas ass that you CAN SEE what he is doing.

This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen. Respect the office of the President. Call him stupid, fine. Keep it classy. I don't like his policies and I think they are dumb but come on man. I serve under him. Don't like or agree but have to serve. This is a party foul man and part of the reason that you won't ever succeed in changing a single person's mind. You are blinded by your own hatred for the other side, so much so that you will never educate anyone or change anyone's mind. EVER. What's the point?

Mike

If that's the worst post you've ever seen then you clearly havnt read much on here. This man is single handidly destroying MY BUSINESS so I have no respect to offer him. And there is not one mind on this board to be changed. I'm not here to change minds, I'm here to express mine.

ask for a bailout!!!! or tell your lobbyist to get off his butt. hahahahahahaha!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen. Respect the office of the President. Call him stupid, fine. Keep it classy. I don't like his policies and I think they are dumb but come on man. I serve under him. Don't like or agree but have to serve. This is a party foul man and part of the reason that you won't ever succeed in changing a single person's mind. You are blinded by your own hatred for the other side, so much so that you will never educate anyone or change anyone's mind. EVER. What's the point?

Mike

If that's the worst post you've ever seen then you clearly havnt read much on here. This man is single handidly destroying MY BUSINESS so I have no respect to offer him. And there is not one mind on this board to be changed. I'm not here to change minds, I'm here to express mine.

ask for a bailout!!!! or tell your lobbyist to get off his butt. hahahahahahaha!

No doubt, lol

 

[Texanmike]

I got plenty of disgust for the clueless Fuck Head that is crippling our country all the while blowing through our bank account like a drunk at a craps table. Hate? Not on that level yet but its not far away.

Proof of bullshit practices isn't needed when your head isn't so far up Obamas ass that you CAN SEE what he is doing.

This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen. Respect the office of the President. Call him stupid, fine. Keep it classy. I don't like his policies and I think they are dumb but come on man. I serve under him. Don't like or agree but have to serve. This is a party foul man and part of the reason that you won't ever succeed in changing a single person's mind. You are blinded by your own hatred for the other side, so much so that you will never educate anyone or change anyone's mind. EVER. What's the point?

Mike

If that's the worst post you've ever seen then you clearly havnt read much on here. This man is single handidly destroying MY BUSINESS so I have no respect to offer him. And there is not one mind on this board to be changed. I'm not here to change minds, I'm here to express mine.

If you don't try to educate people everywhere you have the opportunity then you will be stuck here complaining about your situation for the rest of your life. In fact your situation will be constantly deteriorating all while you just come here with your shitty "*#$% the world and anyone who doesn't agree with me" attitude. That will certainly help you change your world won't it?

For someone who advertises himself as old you sure don't seem very wise.

Mike

 

[eflatminor]

We can't even impeach him for waging war against Libya without Congressional approval. With precious few exceptions, Congress has no backbone.

 

[Caroljo]

Friends and supporters? This shouldn't be limited to just Obama either.

Congress needs to pass some kind of law making it criminal to put money into bills for friends and supporters. This shit has to stop. Obamas supporters alone have received over a billion dollars for nothing more than being a supporter. It's criminal, period. Left, right it doesn't matter. I'm well aware this has been a problem across both isles but its time to put a stop to this practice.

OBAMA IS A THIEF. AND HE IS DOING IT RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES.

I appreciate the point but you are wrong. You cannot impeach Obama for what he's done with money. First of all, he doesn't do it. Congress does. You don't impeach someone over politics. We elect these people and it is not surprising that he would attempt to hire/give contracts to people he knows/trusts. Suddenly, if you are elected to office you are supposed to cut ties with all of your associates? We, the voters, knew what he was when we elected him. Elections have consequences. If you don't like the result then you should have worked harder to change the minds of the people around you. Set up a website, campaign with a poster... talk to your neighbors take out ads on the radio... Obama is no more a thief than anyone else in office. Now if you want to say he's an imbecile, fine. Does he make bad decisions? Sure. Do I agree with any policy he has endorced? No.

Guess what. I didn't work enough to prevent him from getting elected either. I didn't talk to enough people. I didn't scream loud enough. I ignored when bush did the same thing (until the bailouts) I excused the medicare thing. Our own party (my former party) actually nominated an old bleached version of Obama. How did we do any better?

The only reason I ranted like this is because when you make a rhetorical point like yours it makes people less receptive to you when you are actually arguing a valid point. I agree with much of what you say on the surface but you aren't trying to convince me. We will be more successful in getting our candidate (by the way we disagree on enough things that we probably have different ideal candidates) elected if we focus more on real arguments and less on rhetoric.

Mike

Yes, congress does it. But, Obama could have veto'd it. But you know why he didn't? At the time the majority in Congress were democrats! It's what the ALL wanted......

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen. Respect the office of the President. Call him stupid, fine. Keep it classy. I don't like his policies and I think they are dumb but come on man. I serve under him. Don't like or agree but have to serve. This is a party foul man and part of the reason that you won't ever succeed in changing a single person's mind. You are blinded by your own hatred for the other side, so much so that you will never educate anyone or change anyone's mind. EVER. What's the point?

Mike

If that's the worst post you've ever seen then you clearly havnt read much on here. This man is single handidly destroying MY BUSINESS so I have no respect to offer him. And there is not one mind on this board to be changed. I'm not here to change minds, I'm here to express mine.

If you don't try to educate people everywhere you have the opportunity then you will be stuck here complaining about your situation for the rest of your life. In fact your situation will be constantly deteriorating all while you just come here with your shitty "*#$% the world and anyone who doesn't agree with me" attitude. That will certainly help you change your world won't it?

For someone who advertises himself as old you sure don't seem very wise.

Mike

For someone who says I should tone my rhetoric down you seem to have no problem pointing out my so called flaws. Which by the way have nothing to do with the topic so what's the fucking point? My life outside of work is going along just fine. Once the jackass is out of office work will slowly return to normal. I don't need to convince anyone of anything to make my situation better or worse. Wisdom is knowing that when this little liberal progressive test is over so then will be our troubles. And as I told you in a private message I don't give a shit what you think. Your an unknown individual on the net, nothing more.

Ps. If you think your little moderation tone is going to change minds on this board your delusional and stupid. No one on this board cares what anyone else thinks and are likewise set in their beliefs. This isn't junior high school.

 

[Texanmike]

If that's the worst post you've ever seen then you clearly havnt read much on here. This man is single handidly destroying MY BUSINESS so I have no respect to offer him. And there is not one mind on this board to be changed. I'm not here to change minds, I'm here to express mine.

If you don't try to educate people everywhere you have the opportunity then you will be stuck here complaining about your situation for the rest of your life. In fact your situation will be constantly deteriorating all while you just come here with your shitty "*#$% the world and anyone who doesn't agree with me" attitude. That will certainly help you change your world won't it?

For someone who advertises himself as old you sure don't seem very wise.

Mike

For someone who says I should tone my rhetoric down you seem to have no problem pointing out my so called flaws. Which by the way have nothing to do with the topic so what's the fucking point? My life outside of work is going along just fine. Once the jackass is out of office work will slowly return to normal. I don't need to convince anyone of anything to make my situation better or worse. Wisdom is knowing that when this little liberal progressive test is over so then will be our troubles. And as I told you in a private message I don't give a shit what you think. Your an unknown individual on the net, nothing more.

Ps. If you think your little moderation tone is going to change minds on this board your delusional and stupid. No one on this board cares what anyone else thinks and are likewise set in their beliefs. This isn't junior high school.

When he gets out of office nothing will change. The system is broken.

Mike

 

[Firehorse]

Ask him about, investigate it, bring him before congress, gather facts. That's what we do. If there was a crime, then you take the next step. Right now, it looks "very improper" at best and borders on unethical

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

If you don't try to educate people everywhere you have the opportunity then you will be stuck here complaining about your situation for the rest of your life. In fact your situation will be constantly deteriorating all while you just come here with your shitty "*#$% the world and anyone who doesn't agree with me" attitude. That will certainly help you change your world won't it?

For someone who advertises himself as old you sure don't seem very wise.

Mike

For someone who says I should tone my rhetoric down you seem to have no problem pointing out my so called flaws. Which by the way have nothing to do with the topic so what's the fucking point? My life outside of work is going along just fine. Once the jackass is out of office work will slowly return to normal. I don't need to convince anyone of anything to make my situation better or worse. Wisdom is knowing that when this little liberal progressive test is over so then will be our troubles. And as I told you in a private message I don't give a shit what you think. Your an unknown individual on the net, nothing more.

Ps. If you think your little moderation tone is going to change minds on this board your delusional and stupid. No one on this board cares what anyone else thinks and are likewise set in their beliefs. This isn't junior high school.

When he gets out of office nothing will change. The system is broken.

Mike

whatever

My business was booming along prior to his entry and subsequent "fixes"

 

[Texanmike]

For someone who says I should tone my rhetoric down you seem to have no problem pointing out my so called flaws. Which by the way have nothing to do with the topic so what's the fucking point? My life outside of work is going along just fine. Once the jackass is out of office work will slowly return to normal. I don't need to convince anyone of anything to make my situation better or worse. Wisdom is knowing that when this little liberal progressive test is over so then will be our troubles. And as I told you in a private message I don't give a shit what you think. Your an unknown individual on the net, nothing more.

Ps. If you think your little moderation tone is going to change minds on this board your delusional and stupid. No one on this board cares what anyone else thinks and are likewise set in their beliefs. This isn't junior high school.

When he gets out of office nothing will change. The system is broken.

Mike

whatever

My business was booming along prior to his entry and subsequent "fixes"

So Obama got elected and immediately enacted all kinds of things?

Earthquakes take time to build up. Both plates play a part in it as pressure builds. Pretty much what happened with the economy. It is the system that takes your money and spends it on frivolous things. It doesn't matter which party spends your money. TARP was just as bad. Hell McCain stopped his campaign to broker the deal. The system in which we have a massive federal government that taxes us at will and spends our money at will and when they need to, just prints money at will is broken. It has been it will be until we fix it.

Mike

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Friends and supporters? This shouldn't be limited to just Obama either.

Congress needs to pass some kind of law making it criminal to put money into bills for friends and supporters. This shit has to stop. Obamas supporters alone have received over a billion dollars for nothing more than being a supporter. It's criminal, period. Left, right it doesn't matter. I'm well aware this has been a problem across both isles but its time to put a stop to this practice.

OBAMA IS A THIEF. AND HE IS DOING IT RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES.

You forgot to cite your evident, there needs to be evidence before an impeachment committee may be convened in the House.

How many of these threads did you start when Bush was in office?

0, I wasn't a member then.

Even if you were a member, you wouldn’t have started any.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Friends and supporters? This shouldn't be limited to just Obama either.

Congress needs to pass some kind of law making it criminal to put money into bills for friends and supporters. This shit has to stop. Obamas supporters alone have received over a billion dollars for nothing more than being a supporter. It's criminal, period. Left, right it doesn't matter. I'm well aware this has been a problem across both isles but its time to put a stop to this practice.

OBAMA IS A THIEF. AND HE IS DOING IT RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES.

You forgot to cite your evident, there needs to be evidence before an impeachment committee may be convened in the House.

How many of these threads did you start when Bush was in office?

0, I wasn't a member then.

Even if you were a member, you wouldn’t have started any.

the evidence is on the news and in the papers every other day. And my complaints about bush were many on the fiscal side. But that isn't the issue at hand. Thanks for your utterly pointless post

 

[Texanmike]

Friends and supporters? This shouldn't be limited to just Obama either.

Congress needs to pass some kind of law making it criminal to put money into bills for friends and supporters. This shit has to stop. Obamas supporters alone have received over a billion dollars for nothing more than being a supporter. It's criminal, period. Left, right it doesn't matter. I'm well aware this has been a problem across both isles but its time to put a stop to this practice.

OBAMA IS A THIEF. AND HE IS DOING IT RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES.

You forgot to cite your evident, there needs to be evidence before an impeachment committee may be convened in the House.

0, I wasn't a member then.

Even if you were a member, you wouldn’t have started any.

the evidence is on the news and in the papers every other day. And my complaints about bush were many on the fiscal side. But that isn't the issue at hand. Thanks for your utterly pointless post

What has he done that you believe is an impeachable offense? Can you spell that out in an unemotional, succinct manner?

Mike

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You forgot to cite your evident, there needs to be evidence before an impeachment committee may be convened in the House.




Even if you were a member, you wouldn’t have started any.

the evidence is on the news and in the papers every other day. And my complaints about bush were many on the fiscal side. But that isn't the issue at hand. Thanks for your utterly pointless post

What has he done that you believe is an impeachable offense? Can you spell that out in an unemotional, succinct manner?

Mike

K I S S M Y A S S

Is that simple enough for you? Take your demeaning hollyer than thou attitude and stick it.

 

[Moonglow]

Looks like grampa has his noose out for Obama again.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Looks like grampa has his noose out for Obama again.

There aren't any left you idiots are stock piling them up to use on our job creators.