Would ANY Bush Basher care to refute these statements???

I guess you're right, he got the blow job out of the papers, but didn't bother to get laden. When he had the chance. The reason, because liberals would've hated laden to be killed. To a liberal anything good for the country is bad. Another reason not to elect a president that makes his decisions on polls.

It was Bush who pulled his troops back in Tora Bora and allowed bin Laden to excape into Pakistan

Made sense actually. Bush realized that killing or capturing bin Laden in 2002 would have caused the American public to consider the war on terror to be over. America wouldn't have bought his invade Iraq rhetoric if bin Laden was dead.
And we know Bush wasn't going to jeopardize his Iraq invasion
So you think if Bush killed bin Laden the war would've been over? Bush did say he was worried more about defeating the terrorists, than concentrating on one man. He had laden on the run. Anyway his intelligence ended up getting laden. Thanks president Bush.

No

I believe that if Bush had killed bin Laden in 2002 like he could have, he never would have gotten his war in Iraq

That is why he was so unenthusiastic about getting bin Laden
So killing bin laden would've made Saddam obey the un sanctions?
Saddam never was building nuclear weapons. His country was suffering from the crippling sanctions. Bush simply made shit up. Like Republicans with Obama. Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and so on. Just made up shit.

So explain then WHY would Saddam allow 576,000 children to starve because he wouldn't certify he didn't have WMDs?
In five years 576,000 children starved BECAUSE SADDAM refused to certify WMD destruction!
The sanctions were imposed by the Security Council after Iraq invaded Kuwait in August 1990. Led by the United States, the Council has rejected many Iraqi appeals to lift the restrictions, which have crippled the economy, until Iraq accounts for all its weapons of mass destruction and United Nations inspectors can certify that they have been destroyed in accordance with several Council resolutions.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

How simple would it have been then just to "Certify"?

But all the American deaths from liberating 28 million people from this totally depraved dictator who KNEW he didn't have WMDs but wouldn't certify he didn't have!
This depraved dictator should have been removed as Clinton ORDERED with the 1998 Liberation of Iraq Act!
But of course YOU with your love of Terrorists and of Saddam didn't care if 1.2 million kids would starve if Saddam wasn't removed!
You didn't care if Saddam WAS as these 32 democrat quotes pointed out always DID have WMDs ...
So with the backdrop of 9/11 and the murder of 3,000 people of the worst attack on American soil EVER..
given all the issues with Saddam PLUS many of you forget the tremendous anxiety of the Anthrax attacks that seven days after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, anonymous letters laced with deadly anthrax spores began arriving at media companies and congressional offices. Over the ensuing months, five people died from inhaling anthrax and 17 others were infected after exposure.Feb 15, 2011
NO ONE KNEW where these came from BUT we did KNOW Saddam had the following bioweapons:
Of these, three — anthrax, botulinum and aflatoxin— had proceeded to weaponization for deployment.
Iraqi biological weapons program - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

SO please tell me you would have been ok with anthrax, botulinum and aflatoxin weaponized by Saddam? You'd be ok with his starving by now nearly 1.2 million?
A) Did these DEMOCRATS make these statements MANY before Bush was President? YES or NO!
Democrat Quotes on WMD
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an
oppressive regime .... to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
.... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
“So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interest of our nation.
A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war. It is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands
of our president.”
Hillary Clinton on October 2, 2002

Clinton signed this ACT and proceeded to bomb Iraq!
Saddam continued to defy UN, USA the rest of the world.

The 1998 Liberation of Iraq, SIGNED by CLINTON, and the Congress passed Resolution of 2002 (Public law 107-243, 116 Stat. 1497-1502)
"Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq " "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 is a United States Congressional statement of policy calling .
"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."
On December 16, 1998, President Bill Clinton mandated Operation Desert Fox, a major four-day bombing campaign on Iraqi targets.

So with the backdrop of 9/11 and the murder of 3,000 people of the worst attack on American soil EVER..
given all the issues with Saddam PLUS many of you forget the tremendous anxiety of the Anthrax attacks that seven days after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, anonymous letters laced with deadly anthrax spores began arriving at media companies and congressional offices. Over the ensuing months, five people died from inhaling anthrax and 17 others were infected after exposure.Feb 15, 2011
NO ONE KNEW where these came from BUT we did KNOW Saddam had the following bioweapons:
Of these, three — anthrax, botulinum and aflatoxin— had proceeded to weaponization for deployment.
Iraqi biological weapons program - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

All of you great minds with the benefit of HINDSIGHT... YOU tell me if you were President and the above
DEMOCRATS were pushing you to remove Saddam because proof of Saddam's ability to delivery and therefore use WMDs was irrefutable!
YOU tell me what you would have done!!



The Cost of Ignoring UN Inspectors: An Unnecessary War with Iraq
"
The IAEA’s Director General, Mohamed ElBaradei, and UNMOVIC’s Executive Chairman, Hans Blix, both reported progress, following the return of UN inspectors to Iraq in November 2002, in resolving critical questions about the current status of Iraq’s WMD programs.

Based on more than a hundred visits to suspect sites and private interviews with a number of individual scientists known to have been involved with WMD programs in the past, ElBaradei stated that the IAEA had “to date found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons programme in Iraq....

The Cost of Ignoring UN Inspectors An Unnecessary War with Iraq

Couple of points...
Why didn't Saddam certify there were NO WMDs and end the sanctions keeping 100,000 children from starving each year?
Saddam met every day with one man, an American he knew as "Mr. George." George is FBI agent George Piro, who was the front man for a team of FBI and CIA analysts who were trying to answer some of the great mysteries of recent history. What happened to the weapons of mass destruction? Was Saddam in league with al Qaeda? Why did he choose war with the United States?
Proof is in what Saddam told Piro...which was ....Saddam still wouldn't admit he had no weapons of mass destruction, even when it was obvious there would be military action against him because of the perception he did. Because, says Piro,
"For him, it was critical that he was seen as still the strong, defiant Saddam. He thought that [faking having the weapons] would prevent the Iranians from reinvading Iraq," he tells Pelley.

He also intended and had the wherewithal to restart the weapons program. "[Saddam] still had the engineers. The folks that he needed to reconstitute his program are still there," says Piro. "He wanted to pursue all of WMDs to reconstitute his entire WMD program." This included chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, Piro says.

Interview with FBI agent who interrogated Saddam Archive - AnandTech Forums

If you are an honest person READ the below article by an individual that was asked by U.S. Central Command called on us to help transport from Iraq enough yellowcake uranium to make several atomic bombs stored at Saddam’s nuclear weapons complex, I realized why neither the Pentagon nor the White House advertised the presence of this WMD precursor: safety and security.
Regardless of what position one takes on the U.S. invasion, the world could not abide by large quantities of nuclear weapons precursor in the hands of the genocidal tyrant in Baghdad.

As we are seeing with the current, seemingly endless negotiations with Iran, the millionaire mullahs of Tehran are using the pretext of “peaceful” nuclear power generation in order to assert that the denial thereof is a direct assault on a nation’s sovereignty. Consequently, the concept that we could have gotten the yellowcake removed from Iraq as a part of lifting the rapidly degrading sanctions and truly certifying the country clean of all chemical weapons without the overthrow of Saddam defies logic and experience. The continued possession by Iraq of approximately 5,000 chemical warheads undiscovered after almost eight years of aggressive UN inspections along with the existence of enough yellowcake uranium to make 14 or so nuclear bombs with technology that the Iranians and Libyans already possessed calls for a new coda to replace “Bush lied, people died.” Certainly, we should look to the reinstatement of a principle justification for the American invasion of Iraq.

Carter Andress is president of AISG, Inc. (American-Iraqi Solutions Group) and the author, with Malcolm McConnell, of Victory Undone: The Defeat of al-Qaeda in Iraq and Its Resurrection as ISIS (Regnery, October 2014).
 
Actually, what we need is factual and truthful history!

The truth? You can't handle the truth.

The truth is, the big lie in Iraq was the Democrats saying they were lied to.

Bush meant everything he said, the Democrats knew that. They were just as guilty as he was.

We need a rational policy of energy independence and not meddling in other countries' affairs. Democrat need to say W didn't lie, he was wrong. We didn't lie, we were wrong. We learned from that. Republicans didn't.

At that point you will be worthy of your claim you care about truth. Right now, you don't. You care about winning.
 
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How does one rationalize the fact that Bush 43 planned to invade Iraq before 9/11?

The Downing Street Memo: What is it?

I don't get the point of this. You thought on 9/11 he suddenly decided Hussein was a threat? He thought that before 9/11, and that tells us what exactly? BTW, the Clinton Iraq policy was "regime change." Maybe it wasn't just W...

This is still you petty Partisans driving down the same road and fighting over who gets to sit behind the steering wheel. We need a better middle east policy, not an aha, I got you opportunity.

After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein

And one of the Democrat's first priorities was to find a way to pin their actions on W. You're still doing it.
 
How does one rationalize the fact that Bush 43 planned to invade Iraq before 9/11?

The Downing Street Memo: What is it?

I don't get the point of this. You thought on 9/11 he suddenly decided Hussein was a threat? He thought that before 9/11, and that tells us what exactly? BTW, the Clinton Iraq policy was "regime change." Maybe it wasn't just W...

This is still you petty Partisans driving down the same road and fighting over who gets to sit behind the steering wheel. We need a better middle east policy, not an aha, I got you opportunity.

After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein
I still can't get an answer to a basic question. What did Bush mean when he said Iraq was giving aid and protection to al Qaeda. He said it in his State of the Union Address immediately following 9/11. Why hasn't any evidence ever been presented that this was a true statement? Why is it wrong to call his statement a lie?
Exactly

They were pulling out every trick in the book to justify their war
 
How does one rationalize the fact that Bush 43 planned to invade Iraq before 9/11?

The Downing Street Memo: What is it?

I don't get the point of this. You thought on 9/11 he suddenly decided Hussein was a threat? He thought that before 9/11, and that tells us what exactly? BTW, the Clinton Iraq policy was "regime change." Maybe it wasn't just W...

This is still you petty Partisans driving down the same road and fighting over who gets to sit behind the steering wheel. We need a better middle east policy, not an aha, I got you opportunity.

After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein

And one of the Democrat's first priorities was to find a way to pin their actions on W. You're still doing it.

W pulled the trigger
 
After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein
I still can't get an answer to a basic question. What did Bush mean when he said Iraq was giving aid and protection to al Qaeda. He said it in his State of the Union Address immediately following 9/11. Why hasn't any evidence ever been presented that this was a true statement? Why is it wrong to call his statement a lie?

Um, the State of the Union is delivered in January, not right after 9/11.

I searched the text of the 2002 State of the Union speech.

He used the word al Qaeda once, and it was in regard to the shoe bomber, not Iraq.

He used the word Iraq two times, in consecutive sentences. It was about Iraq and their general support of terrorism and WMDs.

So, what are you talking about?
 
After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein
I still can't get an answer to a basic question. What did Bush mean when he said Iraq was giving aid and protection to al Qaeda. He said it in his State of the Union Address immediately following 9/11. Why hasn't any evidence ever been presented that this was a true statement? Why is it wrong to call his statement a lie?
Exactly

They were pulling out every trick in the book to justify their war

Yep, just like Democrats
 
How does one rationalize the fact that Bush 43 planned to invade Iraq before 9/11?

The Downing Street Memo: What is it?

I don't get the point of this. You thought on 9/11 he suddenly decided Hussein was a threat? He thought that before 9/11, and that tells us what exactly? BTW, the Clinton Iraq policy was "regime change." Maybe it wasn't just W...

This is still you petty Partisans driving down the same road and fighting over who gets to sit behind the steering wheel. We need a better middle east policy, not an aha, I got you opportunity.

After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein

And one of the Democrat's first priorities was to find a way to pin their actions on W. You're still doing it.

W pulled the trigger

So if W is a liar, and Democrats said the same thing, it doesn't matter, they are both liars.
 
After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein
I still can't get an answer to a basic question. What did Bush mean when he said Iraq was giving aid and protection to al Qaeda. He said it in his State of the Union Address immediately following 9/11. Why hasn't any evidence ever been presented that this was a true statement? Why is it wrong to call his statement a lie?

Um, the State of the Union is delivered in January, not right after 9/11.

I searched the text of the 2002 State of the Union speech.

He used the word al Qaeda once, and it was in regard to the shoe bomber, not Iraq.

He used the word Iraq two times, in consecutive sentences. It was about Iraq and their general support of terrorism and WMDs.

So, what are you talking about?

You are right as Bush campaigned on national economic issues and "nation-building" was very very low if not non-existent.

Cheney was aware in mid 2000 that according to CWX chairman, box car loadings were declining. This is a clue that manufacturers were scaling back.
This meant an economic slowdown and sure enough National Bureau of Economic Research declared a recession started in March 2001. As most intelligent people know recessions just don't start on the date NBER states but over a gradual slowing from the middle of 2000 to the official start of March 2001 there was an economic slowdown and THIS was the Bush's administration's prime concern!

That all changed when 9/11 occurred and if the Gorelick Memo from the Clinton administration had not prevented the CIA from sharing with the FBI the info about
al Qaeda,etc. we might not have had 9/11. The Gorelick memo was meant to keep the CIA from sharing with FBI China's donations to Clinton in exchange for missile information. But that's in the past right???
 
After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein
I still can't get an answer to a basic question. What did Bush mean when he said Iraq was giving aid and protection to al Qaeda. He said it in his State of the Union Address immediately following 9/11. Why hasn't any evidence ever been presented that this was a true statement? Why is it wrong to call his statement a lie?
Exactly

They were pulling out every trick in the book to justify their war

Yep, just like Democrats

Democrats were working off of intelligence sent to them by Bush
 
How does one rationalize the fact that Bush 43 planned to invade Iraq before 9/11?

The Downing Street Memo: What is it?

I don't get the point of this. You thought on 9/11 he suddenly decided Hussein was a threat? He thought that before 9/11, and that tells us what exactly? BTW, the Clinton Iraq policy was "regime change." Maybe it wasn't just W...

This is still you petty Partisans driving down the same road and fighting over who gets to sit behind the steering wheel. We need a better middle east policy, not an aha, I got you opportunity.

After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein

And one of the Democrat's first priorities was to find a way to pin their actions on W. You're still doing it.

W pulled the trigger

So if W is a liar, and Democrats said the same thing, it doesn't matter, they are both liars.

W pulled the trigger 3 months after he was given authorization to go to war if HE felt it necessary

The UN begged for more time.......Bush told them to fuck themselves

The UN was right
 
After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein
I still can't get an answer to a basic question. What did Bush mean when he said Iraq was giving aid and protection to al Qaeda. He said it in his State of the Union Address immediately following 9/11. Why hasn't any evidence ever been presented that this was a true statement? Why is it wrong to call his statement a lie?

Um, the State of the Union is delivered in January, not right after 9/11.

I searched the text of the 2002 State of the Union speech.

He used the word al Qaeda once, and it was in regard to the shoe bomber, not Iraq.

He used the word Iraq two times, in consecutive sentences. It was about Iraq and their general support of terrorism and WMDs.

So, what are you talking about?

You are correct. The lie was made in the 2003 address

www.thisnation.com/library/sotu/2003gwb.html

Paragraph 14 up from bottom of page.

youtube.com/watch?v=jTpZYH2x9-k
 
After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein
I still can't get an answer to a basic question. What did Bush mean when he said Iraq was giving aid and protection to al Qaeda. He said it in his State of the Union Address immediately following 9/11. Why hasn't any evidence ever been presented that this was a true statement? Why is it wrong to call his statement a lie?
Exactly

They were pulling out every trick in the book to justify their war

Yep, just like Democrats

Democrats were working off of intelligence sent to them by Bush

No, Bush didn't provide any intelligence, he was the President, idiot.

Democrats were in the White House 8 of 9 years before the buildup to Iraq began, and you were all over the Senate intelligence committee the entire time. That you were lied to is a flat out lie that only an idiot .... would believe.... Oooohhhhhh, now I get it! Never mind...
 
I don't get the point of this. You thought on 9/11 he suddenly decided Hussein was a threat? He thought that before 9/11, and that tells us what exactly? BTW, the Clinton Iraq policy was "regime change." Maybe it wasn't just W...

This is still you petty Partisans driving down the same road and fighting over who gets to sit behind the steering wheel. We need a better middle east policy, not an aha, I got you opportunity.

After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein

And one of the Democrat's first priorities was to find a way to pin their actions on W. You're still doing it.

W pulled the trigger

So if W is a liar, and Democrats said the same thing, it doesn't matter, they are both liars.

W pulled the trigger 3 months after he was given authorization to go to war if HE felt it necessary

The UN begged for more time.......Bush told them to fuck themselves

The UN was right

The UN "begged" for more time? You are FOS
 
After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein
I still can't get an answer to a basic question. What did Bush mean when he said Iraq was giving aid and protection to al Qaeda. He said it in his State of the Union Address immediately following 9/11. Why hasn't any evidence ever been presented that this was a true statement? Why is it wrong to call his statement a lie?
Exactly

They were pulling out every trick in the book to justify their war

Yep, just like Democrats

Democrats were working off of intelligence sent to them by Bush

No, Bush didn't provide any intelligence, he was the President, idiot.

Democrats were in the White House 8 of 9 years before the buildup to Iraq began, and you were all over the Senate intelligence committee the entire time. That you were lied to is a flat out lie that only an idiot .... would believe.... Oooohhhhhh, now I get it! Never mind...

Maybe that's why 147 Democrats voted against the war, and only 7 Republicans did.

If Democrats had had their way, there would not have been the disaster of Iraq. The resolution would had never have cleared the House of Representatives.
 
It was Bush who pulled his troops back in Tora Bora and allowed bin Laden to excape into Pakistan

Made sense actually. Bush realized that killing or capturing bin Laden in 2002 would have caused the American public to consider the war on terror to be over. America wouldn't have bought his invade Iraq rhetoric if bin Laden was dead.
And we know Bush wasn't going to jeopardize his Iraq invasion
So you think if Bush killed bin Laden the war would've been over? Bush did say he was worried more about defeating the terrorists, than concentrating on one man. He had laden on the run. Anyway his intelligence ended up getting laden. Thanks president Bush.

No

I believe that if Bush had killed bin Laden in 2002 like he could have, he never would have gotten his war in Iraq

That is why he was so unenthusiastic about getting bin Laden
So killing bin laden would've made Saddam obey the un sanctions?
Saddam never was building nuclear weapons. His country was suffering from the crippling sanctions. Bush simply made shit up. Like Republicans with Obama. Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and so on. Just made up shit.

So explain then WHY would Saddam allow 576,000 children to starve because he wouldn't certify he didn't have WMDs?
In five years 576,000 children starved BECAUSE SADDAM refused to certify WMD destruction!
The sanctions were imposed by the Security Council after Iraq invaded Kuwait in August 1990. Led by the United States, the Council has rejected many Iraqi appeals to lift the restrictions, which have crippled the economy, until Iraq accounts for all its weapons of mass destruction and United Nations inspectors can certify that they have been destroyed in accordance with several Council resolutions.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

How simple would it have been then just to "Certify"?

But all the American deaths from liberating 28 million people from this totally depraved dictator who KNEW he didn't have WMDs but wouldn't certify he didn't have!
This depraved dictator should have been removed as Clinton ORDERED with the 1998 Liberation of Iraq Act!
But of course YOU with your love of Terrorists and of Saddam didn't care if 1.2 million kids would starve if Saddam wasn't removed!
You didn't care if Saddam WAS as these 32 democrat quotes pointed out always DID have WMDs ...
So with the backdrop of 9/11 and the murder of 3,000 people of the worst attack on American soil EVER..
given all the issues with Saddam PLUS many of you forget the tremendous anxiety of the Anthrax attacks that seven days after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, anonymous letters laced with deadly anthrax spores began arriving at media companies and congressional offices. Over the ensuing months, five people died from inhaling anthrax and 17 others were infected after exposure.Feb 15, 2011
NO ONE KNEW where these came from BUT we did KNOW Saddam had the following bioweapons:
Of these, three — anthrax, botulinum and aflatoxin— had proceeded to weaponization for deployment.
Iraqi biological weapons program - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

SO please tell me you would have been ok with anthrax, botulinum and aflatoxin weaponized by Saddam? You'd be ok with his starving by now nearly 1.2 million?
A) Did these DEMOCRATS make these statements MANY before Bush was President? YES or NO!
Democrat Quotes on WMD
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an
oppressive regime .... to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
.... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
“So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interest of our nation.
A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war. It is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands
of our president.”
Hillary Clinton on October 2, 2002

Clinton signed this ACT and proceeded to bomb Iraq!
Saddam continued to defy UN, USA the rest of the world.

The 1998 Liberation of Iraq, SIGNED by CLINTON, and the Congress passed Resolution of 2002 (Public law 107-243, 116 Stat. 1497-1502)
"Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq " "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 is a United States Congressional statement of policy calling .
"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."
On December 16, 1998, President Bill Clinton mandated Operation Desert Fox, a major four-day bombing campaign on Iraqi targets.

So with the backdrop of 9/11 and the murder of 3,000 people of the worst attack on American soil EVER..
given all the issues with Saddam PLUS many of you forget the tremendous anxiety of the Anthrax attacks that seven days after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, anonymous letters laced with deadly anthrax spores began arriving at media companies and congressional offices. Over the ensuing months, five people died from inhaling anthrax and 17 others were infected after exposure.Feb 15, 2011
NO ONE KNEW where these came from BUT we did KNOW Saddam had the following bioweapons:
Of these, three — anthrax, botulinum and aflatoxin— had proceeded to weaponization for deployment.
Iraqi biological weapons program - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

All of you great minds with the benefit of HINDSIGHT... YOU tell me if you were President and the above
DEMOCRATS were pushing you to remove Saddam because proof of Saddam's ability to delivery and therefore use WMDs was irrefutable!
YOU tell me what you would have done!!



The Cost of Ignoring UN Inspectors: An Unnecessary War with Iraq
"
The IAEA’s Director General, Mohamed ElBaradei, and UNMOVIC’s Executive Chairman, Hans Blix, both reported progress, following the return of UN inspectors to Iraq in November 2002, in resolving critical questions about the current status of Iraq’s WMD programs.

Based on more than a hundred visits to suspect sites and private interviews with a number of individual scientists known to have been involved with WMD programs in the past, ElBaradei stated that the IAEA had “to date found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons programme in Iraq....

The Cost of Ignoring UN Inspectors An Unnecessary War with Iraq

Couple of points...
Why didn't Saddam certify there were NO WMDs and end the sanctions keeping 100,000 children from starving each year?
Saddam met every day with one man, an American he knew as "Mr. George." George is FBI agent George Piro, who was the front man for a team of FBI and CIA analysts who were trying to answer some of the great mysteries of recent history. What happened to the weapons of mass destruction? Was Saddam in league with al Qaeda? Why did he choose war with the United States?
Proof is in what Saddam told Piro...which was ....Saddam still wouldn't admit he had no weapons of mass destruction, even when it was obvious there would be military action against him because of the perception he did. Because, says Piro,
"For him, it was critical that he was seen as still the strong, defiant Saddam. He thought that [faking having the weapons] would prevent the Iranians from reinvading Iraq," he tells Pelley.

He also intended and had the wherewithal to restart the weapons program. "[Saddam] still had the engineers. The folks that he needed to reconstitute his program are still there," says Piro. "He wanted to pursue all of WMDs to reconstitute his entire WMD program." This included chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, Piro says.

Interview with FBI agent who interrogated Saddam Archive - AnandTech Forums

If you are an honest person READ the below article by an individual that was asked by U.S. Central Command called on us to help transport from Iraq enough yellowcake uranium to make several atomic bombs stored at Saddam’s nuclear weapons complex, I realized why neither the Pentagon nor the White House advertised the presence of this WMD precursor: safety and security.
Regardless of what position one takes on the U.S. invasion, the world could not abide by large quantities of nuclear weapons precursor in the hands of the genocidal tyrant in Baghdad.

As we are seeing with the current, seemingly endless negotiations with Iran, the millionaire mullahs of Tehran are using the pretext of “peaceful” nuclear power generation in order to assert that the denial thereof is a direct assault on a nation’s sovereignty. Consequently, the concept that we could have gotten the yellowcake removed from Iraq as a part of lifting the rapidly degrading sanctions and truly certifying the country clean of all chemical weapons without the overthrow of Saddam defies logic and experience. The continued possession by Iraq of approximately 5,000 chemical warheads undiscovered after almost eight years of aggressive UN inspections along with the existence of enough yellowcake uranium to make 14 or so nuclear bombs with technology that the Iranians and Libyans already possessed calls for a new coda to replace “Bush lied, people died.” Certainly, we should look to the reinstatement of a principle justification for the American invasion of Iraq.

Carter Andress is president of AISG, Inc. (American-Iraqi Solutions Group) and the author, with Malcolm McConnell, of Victory Undone: The Defeat of al-Qaeda in Iraq and Its Resurrection as ISIS (Regnery, October 2014).

So it was wrong to impose sanctions on Iraq?
 
After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein
I still can't get an answer to a basic question. What did Bush mean when he said Iraq was giving aid and protection to al Qaeda. He said it in his State of the Union Address immediately following 9/11. Why hasn't any evidence ever been presented that this was a true statement? Why is it wrong to call his statement a lie?

Um, the State of the Union is delivered in January, not right after 9/11.

I searched the text of the 2002 State of the Union speech.

He used the word al Qaeda once, and it was in regard to the shoe bomber, not Iraq.

He used the word Iraq two times, in consecutive sentences. It was about Iraq and their general support of terrorism and WMDs.

So, what are you talking about?

You are correct. The lie was made in the 2003 address

www.thisnation.com/library/sotu/2003gwb.html

Paragraph 14 up from bottom of page.

youtube.com/watch?v=jTpZYH2x9-k

So a year and a half was "immediately following 9/11?"

Here's what he said, "Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaida. Secretly, and without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help them develop their own."

He didn't say anything about Saddam being involved in 9/11. He didn't even say Iraq helped al Qaeda. He said Iraq met with Al Qaeda and they "could" provide weapons to terrorists. What about that is remotely a "lie?"
 
After 9-11, one of Bush's first priorities was to find a way to pin it on Saddam Hussein

And one of the Democrat's first priorities was to find a way to pin their actions on W. You're still doing it.

W pulled the trigger

So if W is a liar, and Democrats said the same thing, it doesn't matter, they are both liars.

W pulled the trigger 3 months after he was given authorization to go to war if HE felt it necessary

The UN begged for more time.......Bush told them to fuck themselves

The UN was right

The UN "begged" for more time? You are FOS
UN weapons inspector Hans Blix informed Bush that he was finding no WMDs and that if given more time, he could prove it

Bush invaded before his excuse was gone
 

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