Women Giving up Seats on American Airliners for Religious Accomodation?

[Coyote]

Why Most Buddhist Nuns and Monks Are Celibate

In Theravada Buddhism monks are not permitted to so much as shake hands with a woman; nor may a nun touch a man. The revered Thai monk Ajaan Fuang (1915-1986) said, "The reason the Buddha didn't allow monks to touch women is not that there's anything wrong with women. It's because there's something wrong with the monks: They still have mental defilements, which is why they have to be kept under control." Mahayana celibate orders generally are not quite so strict about not touching.

Good God of Abraham people, stop seeing Muslims in every thread...

I had no idea that Buddhists were strict about that.

Ajaan Fuang got that part right about men having "mental defilements'. Which I suppose is a nice Buddhist way of saying we can file crap unless it's about sex or sports or power tools. Great phrase isn't it?

You know what is interesting? The position of women in all this. Whether it's Christians, Muslims, Jews or Buddhists. Women are covered up or seperated or not to be touched because men can't possibly be expected to "not defile" themselves or control their urges. It touches upon the issue of rape too, where women are blamed for being to scantily dressed.

Absolutely. I believe there are women Buddhist and Hindu nuns (or some kind of equivalent) and they don't ever seem to be the problems in situations like this. The Muslim women cashiers/baggers/clerks at the stores in my area don't ever have an issue of interacting with men.

Religious men are just too dangerous to let loose in public with their "mental defilements". And of course, the cure for that is celibacy?

Actually....I think celibacy is part of the problem...too unnatural!

But culture after culture...women seem to scare the shit out of men.

 

[Coyote]

Why Most Buddhist Nuns and Monks Are Celibate

In Theravada Buddhism monks are not permitted to so much as shake hands with a woman; nor may a nun touch a man. The revered Thai monk Ajaan Fuang (1915-1986) said, "The reason the Buddha didn't allow monks to touch women is not that there's anything wrong with women. It's because there's something wrong with the monks: They still have mental defilements, which is why they have to be kept under control." Mahayana celibate orders generally are not quite so strict about not touching.

Good God of Abraham people, stop seeing Muslims in every thread...

I had no idea that Buddhists were strict about that.

Ajaan Fuang got that part right about men having "mental defilements'. Which I suppose is a nice Buddhist way of saying we can file crap unless it's about sex or sports or power tools. Great phrase isn't it?

You know what is interesting? The position of women in all this. Whether it's Christians, Muslims, Jews or Buddhists. Women are covered up or seperated or not to be touched because men can't possibly be expected to "not defile" themselves or control their urges. It touches upon the issue of rape too, where women are blamed for being to scantily dressed.

Leftist don't care about rape unless a white christian male is the raper.

There are a lot of women's issues being swept under the rug because people are afraid of being called an islamaphobe.

You don't know too much about leftists if you think that.

And this OP doesn't even involve Muslims.

 

[Brynmr]

California Woman Forced To Change Airline Seat To Accommodate Muslim Passengers…

 

[Coyote]

In a return to the OP - if someone has specialized requirements, it's incumbent on THEM to inform the airlines AHEAD of time, and then the airlines can see if it can be reasonably accommodated. In the instances given - they can, with advanced warning. No one should be forced to alter their arrangements, but they can voluntarily. There are a lot of possible ways to handle this that would have been better.

 

[Coyote]

California Woman Forced To Change Airline Seat To Accommodate Muslim Passengers…

Your point?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

California Woman Forced To Change Airline Seat To Accommodate Muslim Passengers…

Well, since the "conservative treehouse" says so, it must be true, right?

After all, it gives you all the right feelings.

 

[Weatherman2020]

California Woman Forced To Change Airline Seat To Accommodate Muslim Passengers…

Your point?

Non Christians are assholes.

 

[Coyote]

California Woman Forced To Change Airline Seat To Accommodate Muslim Passengers…

Your point?

Non Christians are assholes.

Everyone has the God given potential to be an asshole and all too frequently fulfills that potential.

 

[Brynmr]

California Woman Forced To Change Airline Seat To Accommodate Muslim Passengers…

Well, since the "conservative treehouse" says so, it must be true, right?

After all, it gives you all the right feelings.

Oh bull shit. That's your wet dream fantasy.

It's perfectly reasonable to assume that the so called "monks" were Moslem since Pakistan is over 96% Islam and the Liberal media is shielding Islam from getting a bad rap.

 

[flacaltenn]

Evidently some Western airlines discriminate against men. Won't seat unescorted minors next to male passengers.
As tho they've never heard of women predators or pesky Cougars.

Airline seating sex discrimination controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Finally -- I have a case.. Gonna go start the initial chapter of N.O.Men

BTW -- the FLIGHT CREW on that flight was prohibited from serving or addressing the men.

 

[Coyote]

California Woman Forced To Change Airline Seat To Accommodate Muslim Passengers…

Well, since the "conservative treehouse" says so, it must be true, right?

After all, it gives you all the right feelings.

Oh bull shit. That's your wet dream fantasy.

It's perfectly reasonable to assume that the so called "monks" were Moslem since Pakistan is over 96% Islam and the Liberal media is shielding Islam from getting a bad rap.

Pakistan has a Buddhist minority, so don't be an idiot. Islamic clerics are not monks nor do they wear orange shirts or robes.

Why don't you quit while you're ahead?

 

[Coyote]

Evidently some Western airlines discriminate against men. Won't seat unescorted minors next to male passengers.
As tho they've never heard of women predators or pesky Cougars.

Airline seating sex discrimination controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Finally -- I have a case.. Gonna go start the initial chapter of N.O.Men

BTW -- the FLIGHT CREW on that flight was prohibited from serving or addressing the men.

That seems a bit extreme but...funny. So...how do the men get served? They don't?

 

[StLucieBengal]

Too many people under the impression that this is EXCLUSIVELY a "Muslim Issue". Read the damned OP -- BOTH LINKS...

Yeah I saw you carefully placed the Orthodox Jews in the same boat. Nice attempt to cover up for the Muslims.

We all can deal with little issues from Orthodox Jews from time to time because they don't bother anyone. Nor do they oppress, kill, or rape women and children. And yell from the roof tops about their blood lust for anyone not in their religion.

Hmmmm....so...a couple of Muslims (that aren't bothering anyone) must be treated differently than a couple of Buddhists (who aren't bothering anyone) or a couple of Orthodox Jews (that aren't bothering anyone)...

Yes.

But I would tell each of them to piss off because we don't forcibly move women anywhere at the whimes of any man.

The people with the weird issue need to adjust to the rest of us. Not the other way around.

 

[flacaltenn]

California Woman Forced To Change Airline Seat To Accommodate Muslim Passengers…

Well, since the "conservative treehouse" says so, it must be true, right?

After all, it gives you all the right feelings.

Oh bull shit. That's your wet dream fantasy.

It's perfectly reasonable to assume that the so called "monks" were Moslem since Pakistan is over 96% Islam and the Liberal media is shielding Islam from getting a bad rap.

Maybe they are in exile. Like the Dali Llama. I know Pakistan is a kind of Buddhist holy land with some of the oldest shrines in the world. At least the ones the Taliban haven't destroyed.

 

[flacaltenn]

Evidently some Western airlines discriminate against men. Won't seat unescorted minors next to male passengers.
As tho they've never heard of women predators or pesky Cougars.

Airline seating sex discrimination controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Finally -- I have a case.. Gonna go start the initial chapter of N.O.Men

BTW -- the FLIGHT CREW on that flight was prohibited from serving or addressing the men.

That seems a bit extreme but...funny. So...how do the men get served? They don't?

Just means they were told not to offer them snacks and drinks or headphones. Better question is -- what if their seatbacks weren't in the upright position or they needed to do a lap belt check??

 

[Coyote]

Too many people under the impression that this is EXCLUSIVELY a "Muslim Issue". Read the damned OP -- BOTH LINKS...

Yeah I saw you carefully placed the Orthodox Jews in the same boat. Nice attempt to cover up for the Muslims.

We all can deal with little issues from Orthodox Jews from time to time because they don't bother anyone. Nor do they oppress, kill, or rape women and children. And yell from the roof tops about their blood lust for anyone not in their religion.

Hmmmm....so...a couple of Muslims (that aren't bothering anyone) must be treated differently than a couple of Buddhists (who aren't bothering anyone) or a couple of Orthodox Jews (that aren't bothering anyone)...

Yes.

But I would tell each of them to piss off because we don't forcibly move women anywhere at the whimes of any man.

The people with the weird issue need to adjust to the rest of us. Not the other way around.

I agree in general - I don't have a problem with being asked, nicely if I would - being forced though - BAD MANAGEMENT on the airline's part.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

California Woman Forced To Change Airline Seat To Accommodate Muslim Passengers…

Well, since the "conservative treehouse" says so, it must be true, right?

After all, it gives you all the right feelings.

Oh bull shit. That's your wet dream fantasy.

It's perfectly reasonable to assume that the so called "monks" were Moslem since Pakistan is over 96% Islam and the Liberal media is shielding Islam from getting a bad rap.

You've made it clear that you're going assume whatever fills your hatred resovoir. "Reason" has nothing to do with it.

 

[Coyote]

Evidently some Western airlines discriminate against men. Won't seat unescorted minors next to male passengers.
As tho they've never heard of women predators or pesky Cougars.

Airline seating sex discrimination controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Finally -- I have a case.. Gonna go start the initial chapter of N.O.Men

BTW -- the FLIGHT CREW on that flight was prohibited from serving or addressing the men.

That seems a bit extreme but...funny. So...how do the men get served? They don't?

Just means they were told not to offer them snacks and drinks or headphones. Better question is -- what if their seatbacks weren't in the upright position or they needed to do a lap belt check??

 

[StLucieBengal]

Why Most Buddhist Nuns and Monks Are Celibate

In Theravada Buddhism monks are not permitted to so much as shake hands with a woman; nor may a nun touch a man. The revered Thai monk Ajaan Fuang (1915-1986) said, "The reason the Buddha didn't allow monks to touch women is not that there's anything wrong with women. It's because there's something wrong with the monks: They still have mental defilements, which is why they have to be kept under control." Mahayana celibate orders generally are not quite so strict about not touching.

Good God of Abraham people, stop seeing Muslims in every thread...

I had no idea that Buddhists were strict about that.

Ajaan Fuang got that part right about men having "mental defilements'. Which I suppose is a nice Buddhist way of saying we can file crap unless it's about sex or sports or power tools. Great phrase isn't it?

You know what is interesting? The position of women in all this. Whether it's Christians, Muslims, Jews or Buddhists. Women are covered up or seperated or not to be touched because men can't possibly be expected to "not defile" themselves or control their urges. It touches upon the issue of rape too, where women are blamed for being to scantily dressed.

Leftist don't care about rape unless a white christian male is the raper.

There are a lot of women's issues being swept under the rug because people are afraid of being called an islamaphobe.

You don't know too much about leftists if you think that.

And this OP doesn't even involve Muslims.

I know they don't support immediate deportation when an illegal rapes an American.

Muslims will always come into the discussion when the topic is weird and archaic beliefs towards women.

If you don't like this then by all means .... have a reformation

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I had no idea that Buddhists were strict about that.

Ajaan Fuang got that part right about men having "mental defilements'. Which I suppose is a nice Buddhist way of saying we can file crap unless it's about sex or sports or power tools. Great phrase isn't it?

You know what is interesting? The position of women in all this. Whether it's Christians, Muslims, Jews or Buddhists. Women are covered up or seperated or not to be touched because men can't possibly be expected to "not defile" themselves or control their urges. It touches upon the issue of rape too, where women are blamed for being to scantily dressed.

Leftist don't care about rape unless a white christian male is the raper.

There are a lot of women's issues being swept under the rug because people are afraid of being called an islamaphobe.

You don't know too much about leftists if you think that.

And this OP doesn't even involve Muslims.

I know they don't support immediate deportation when an illegal rapes an American.

Muslims will always come into the discussion when the topic is weird and archaic beliefs towards women.

If you don't like this then by all means .... have a reformation

I'd much prefer that rapists go to prison, rather than just be pushed across the border and sent on their way...