Woman Arrested by ICE After Overstaying Her Visa for 10 Years

That is right. They are not because one day they may be needed for convenience. Of course we see what ICE is going through. We will see what Progs do to citizens when they come to power. Adn from the SOTU they told you they care nothing for citizens and love illegals.

My favorite example of laws that should be repealed is the 21 year old drinking age.

Most people ignore it, and thus what's the damn point of it?

All it does is encourage disrespect for the law.
 
No, its a crime

Not a capital offense, but definitely a crime to be dealt with by deportation
Deportation could be appropriate. My point is that it's not a felony.

 
Deportation could be appropriate. My point is that it's not a felony.

Only for the first offence

When they return as official illegal aliens, as many do, it is a felony
 
Deportation could be appropriate. My point is that it's not a felony.


Deportation was ordered by a judge (is appropriate), because the defendant did not have a legitimate case to be here.
The defendant chose to refuse an offer of immediate transportation back to Ireland, decided to stay in ICE Custody at Fort Bliss, and is now complaining about that.

It does not matter whether or not it is a felony, and it has already been adjudicated in court.
 
Alright stop, collaborate and listen....

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Deportation was ordered by a judge (is appropriate), because the defendant did not have a legitimate case to be here.
The defendant chose to refuse an offer of immediate transportation back to Ireland, decided to stay in ICE Custody at Fort Bliss, and is now complaining about that.

It does not matter whether or not it is a felony, and it has already been adjudicated in court.
As I noted, my point in this thread is that overstaying a visa is NOT a felony. I would love to see all illegal immigrants deported, but I know from previous experience in life that THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT CAPABLE of doing so. It has been trying to get rid of "illegal" drugs for more than a century but has failed spectacularly. There is no logical reason to believe it will succeed at getting rid of illegal immigrants, and killing innocent US citizens is wrong and illegal.
 
The only way to have your laws taken seriously is to enforce them.
That is true, but the wisdom of Mr. Justice Brandeis a century ago is relevant to the equation: The law will be respected when it is respectable.

That is, if the legislature writes illegitimate and improper laws, those laws will not get any respect, and no citizen is bound to obey illegitimate legislation.
 
As I noted, my point in this thread is that overstaying a visa is NOT a felony. I would love to see all illegal immigrants deported, but I know from previous experience in life that THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT CAPABLE of doing so. It has been trying to get rid of "illegal" drugs for more than a century but has failed spectacularly. There is no logical reason to believe it will succeed at getting rid of illegal immigrants, and killing innocent US citizens is wrong and illegal.

Okay, so what's your point?

There are two Illegal Foreign Nationals discussed in this thread that will be leaving, and it does not matter whether or not it is a felony. Because you have your tail in a bind about actions not related to the peaceful detention and deportation of the two Illegal Foreign Nationals discussed in this thread is completely irrelevant.

What are you trying to accomplish and why?
 
Okay, so what's your point?

There are two Illegal Foreign Nationals discussed in this thread that will be leaving, and it does not matter whether or not it is a felony. Because you have your tail in a bind about actions not related to the peaceful detention and deportation of the two Illegal Foreign Nationals discussed in this thread is completely irrelevant.

What are you trying to accomplish and why?
I'm trying to have rational public dialogue because I enjoy it. And I've already stated my point in the previous post, but you seem to have missed it, making me wonder if English is your primary language.
 
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That is true, but the wisdom of Mr. Justice Brandeis a century ago is relevant to the equation: The law will be respected when it is respectable.

That is, if the legislature writes illegitimate and improper laws, those laws will not get any respect, and no citizen is bound to obey illegitimate legislation.

Good luck with the idea of picking a choosing what laws you want to obey.

Speeding is not a felony; however it will not matter if you tell the cop the state gave you a driver's license, nor will it matter if you tell the cop you were trying to slow down, nor will it matter if you mention it is dangerous to be standing on the side of the road, nor will it matter that a bunch of people who may also have been speeding were not stopped, you'll still get a ticket.
 
I'm trying to have rational public dialogue because I enjoy it. And I've already stated my point in the previous post, but you seem to have missed it, making me wonder if English is your primary language.

If you want to have a rational dialog, then maybe you should start trying harder.
You have discussed everything but the OP and the topic of the thread.

However, English may not be your problem.
 
No, that is not what he told the American people was his priority. Even now. All of you keep posting that ..., "...liberals are against DHS arresting the illegal immigrant child abusers, murderers and violent criminals, blah blah blah bullcrap!". Never acknowledging that we are fine with deporting the violent criminals, and most importantly...

... never acknowledging that ICE is arresting the immigrants with no violent criminal records, immigrants legally awaiting immigration court hearings, immigrants married to US Citizens, with US citizen kids, or receiving special cancer treatment.....and breaking car windows, busting doors, or tackling them, kicking them while down, shooting them, killing them, arresting their kids with them etc etcetc....a number of things that are very disturbing to see done, here in America....and very hard to watch. :(
Who said this one was a priority?

Just because something isn’t a priority doesn’t mean it still doesn’t get done

I know that’s hard for someone like you to grasp
 
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