Zone1 Without God, right and wrong are just personal beliefs.

[Weatherman2020]

Such is the arrogance of Christians, and their wrong-headed notion that Christianity has a 'monopoly' on morality.

So you think the laws of the USA and North Korea are equally moral?

 

[Weatherman2020]

The ten commandments were written by men, and they belong to everyone.

You can’t prove that.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The ways of 'god' are often the most evil; the most evil is often committed in the name of 'god.'

Your definition of evil is mere personal opinion

 

[surada]

Murder and slavery make a lot of sense without a God.
Survival of the fittest.

You don't know right from wrong. Don't be such a hypocrite.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Society can determine right and wrong.

Cambodia, 1970’s
Germany, 1930’s-40’s
Russia 1920-?
China 1928-?
North Korea 1950’s-?
Japan 1936-45


All society driven morals.

America 1619 to the present and beyond: Religion driven morals

 

[alang1216]

Society can determine right and wrong.

Cambodia, 1970’s
Germany, 1930’s-40’s
Russia 1920-?
China 1928-?
North Korea 1950’s-?
Japan 1936-45


All society driven morals.

Europe at the time of the Reformation, Christians killing Christians in the name of God.

 

[surada]

You can’t prove that.

Both the Code of Hammurabi and the Egyptian Book of the Dead predate the Ten Commandments.... and they were written by men.

 

[surada]

Weatherman2020



About 300 years after Hammurabi, in 1440 B.C., Moses recorded the Law for the Israelites. Because the Mosaic Law contains some similarities to Hammurabi’s Code, some critics of the Bible believe that Moses copied from the Hammurabian Code.

If they’re right, and Moses simply stole from the Babylonians, then the whole episode at Mount Sinai is false (Exodus 34) and the inspiration of Scripture is suspect.

Both Levitical law and Hammurabi’s Code impose the death penalty in cases of adultery and kidnapping (Leviticus 20:10; Exodus 21:16; cf. Statutes 129 and 14). Also, there are similarities in the law of retaliation, such as “an eye for an eye” (Leviticus 21:23-25; cf. Statute 196). Statute 206 of the Hammurabian Code says, “If during a quarrel one man strike another and wound him, then he shall swear, ‘I did not injure him wittingly,’ and pay the physicians.” The Law of Moses is comparable: “If people quarrel and one person hits another with a stone or with their fist and the victim does not die but is confined to bed, the one who struck the blow will not be held liable if the other can get up and walk around outside with a staff; however, the guilty party must pay the injured person for any loss of time and see that the victim is completely healed” (Exodus 21:18-19).

 

[BreezeWood]

The ten commandments were written by men, and they belong to everyone.

You can’t prove that.

provide the tablets etched in the heavens claimed by the liar moses used to persecute and victimize the innocent - otherwise remove them from all three desert bibles.

- or suffer with moses till justice is rendered.

 

[Weatherman2020]

You don't know right from wrong. Don't be such a hypocrite.

My version is as subjective as yours if there’s no God.

 

[surada]

My version is as subjective as yours if there’s no God.

Are you talking about the Code of Hammurabi?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Are you talking about the Code of Hammurabi?

I’m talking about the code of whatever feels good at the moment

 

[surada]

I’m talking about the code of whatever feels good at the moment

Then you really aren't a Christian.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Then you really aren't a Christian.

Off topic.
Your morality is as moral as Stalin’s was if there’s no God.

 

[BreezeWood]

Off topic.
Your morality is as moral as Stalin’s was if there’s no God.

with your next opportunity for the sake of humanity, record your conversation and take a photo ... and have them autograph your favorite bible.

* will it be - i am.

 

[surada]

Off topic.
Your morality is as moral as Stalin’s was if there’s no God.

Are you saying there is no God?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Are you saying there is no God?

Your position, man up.

 

[Weatherman2020]

with your next opportunity for the sake of humanity, record your conversation and take a photo ... and have them autograph your favorite bible.

* will it be - i am.

Now why would elements from the periodic table be posting to me?

 

[sealybobo]

Without an ultimate unchanging rule maker, rules are meaningless subjective personal choices.

Sorry I have TDS. Are you a Trump supporter?

We understand that's the kind of leader you want with Trump. Authoritarian. Ultimate unchanging rule maker. Interesting you said that. I bet you like Trump.

40% of Americans prefer that kind of leader. Not surprising you say that.

Rules are rules and if you get caught you're supposed to get in trouble. Trump lives by the rule that Rules are meaningless and subjective personal choices. If you can get away with breaking them. So are you kidding right now?

 

[sealybobo]

Without an ultimate unchanging rule maker, rules are meaningless subjective personal choices.

Without an ultimate unchanging rule maker, rules are meaningless subjective personal choices.

1. Is this why Republicans love Trump? Because he's an authoritarian leader? 40% of Americans like that.

2. Trump breaks the rules all the time. So I guess rules are meaningless subjective personal choices for believers. Unless Trump isn't really a believer.