How about we objectively look at things one is not supposed to do without ID.
Opening a Savings, Checking Account, or Charge Account.
Travel by Plane or Train.
Pick up mail at a Post Office.
Shit, I get I.D.'d at the Bronx Zoo.
Shopping, Costco, B.J.'s.
Buying and Registering a Motor Vehicle.
You act like the norm is to not have ID on your possession, when it is the norm to carry ID. The argument is disingenuous.
I'm not acting like anything. I don't care what else an ID is required for. When an ID becomes a requirement to vote any fee to obtain it would be a poll tax. It's just an unintended consequence. No biggie. Like I said, I'm all for the ID requirement otherwise.
I half way agree with you. I would rather see moron's getting a free State ID that they could show when they Vote, than no ID Requirement at all. As it stands in NY, a potential Voter can only be asked for ID if their Name is Flagged on the List, which is absurd.
Reality dictates that there are instances which occur in everyday life where ID is required.
NYS DMV - (Brochure) Photo Licenses and ID Cards: Secure ...
... $9.00 and $10.00. A long-term ID will cost between $13.00 and $14.00. These fees include a $5.00 photo document fee. ...
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How to Apply
To apply for a learner permit, driver license, or non-driver ID card, you must complete an "Application For Driver License Or ID Card" (MV-44), available at any motor vehicle office, by request from a DMV Call Center, and from the DMV Internet Office. You must present the required proof of name and date of birth, and pay the appropriate fee.
Proof of Name and Identity
DMV assigns point values to acceptable documents that prove name and identity. To qualify for a license or ID card, your documents of proof must total at least 6 points. These documents must be original or copies certified by the issuing agency. At least one must include your signature. Photocopies and documents with erasures or changes will not be accepted. NOTE: To see the current acceptable proofs of identity and proof of date of birth, please refer to the ID page of the website.
Proof of Date of Birth
You also must prove your date of birth. Your document must be the original, or a certified photocopy from the issuing agency. DMV will accept ANY ONE of these documents:
Birth certificate issued and certified by a Board of Health or Bureau of Vital Statistics in the U.S., its territories, or possessions. Foreign birth certificates are not acceptable.
NYS Photo License/Permit/Non-Driver ID Card
Military Photo ID Card
U.S. Passport
Foreign Passport (with USCIS documentation)
Immigration Documents
NOTE: The USCIS was formerly known as the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS). To see the current acceptable proofs of identity and proof of date of birth, please refer to the ID page of the website.
Social Security Card
A U.S. Social Security Card is required when you apply for an original New York State photo license, learner permit, or non-driver identification card. It is also required when you renew a non-driver identification card.
Valid Periods and Fees
Your first New York State driver license will expire in about 3 to 5 years, on your month and day of birth. Depending on your age, and whether you are applying for a junior operator or full-license permit, your fee will be $64.25 to $105.00. A license renewal is valid for 8 years, and the fee to renew a Class D license is $62.50. These fees include a $12.50 photo document fee.
Important: There is a supplemental Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District (MCTD) fee of $1.00 for every six months the permit or driver license will be in effect. The fee is paid by residents of the five New York City counties of: Bronx, Kings (Brooklyn), New York (Manhattan), Queens and Richmond (Staten Island). The MCTD fee is also paid by residents of the counties of Dutchess, Nassau, Orange, Putnam, Rockland, Suffolk and Westchester. The MCTD fee is not included in the fees in this brochure.
If you do not drive, you may choose a short-term non-driver ID card valid for 4 to 5 years, or a long-term ID card valid for 8 to 9 years. The exact period of your ID card and your fee depend on whether you select a short-term or long-term ID and the relationship between the date you apply and the expiration date (your month and day of birth). A short-term ID card will cost between $9.00 and $10.00. A long-term ID will cost between $13.00 and $14.00. These fees include a $5.00 photo document fee.
Discounted Non-Driver ID Card For Seniors and SSI Recipients
If you are 62 years old or older or are receiving Supplemental Security Income (SSI), you are eligible for a 10-year ID card at a reduced fee of $6.50. If you are both 62 or older and you receive SSI, there is no fee. If you receive Social Security Income (SSI), in addition to documents proving your name and age, you also must prove you receive SSI. DMV will accept ANY ONE of the following documents from the Social Security Administration as proof that you receive SSI:
Notice of Award
Notice of Change in Payment (SSA-L8151)
Report of Confidential Social Security Benefit Information (SSA-2458)
Benefit Verification Letter
NYS DMV - (Brochure) Photo Licenses and ID Cards: Secure Proof for Drivers and Non-Drivers
for the ''just in case i see something i want to buy (and matt's not too keen on it)'' occasion !!!!
