The difference is in that case a woman was actually raped, and several of those males admitted to doing it. That’s called “evidence” to support the accusation.
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Winning formula- Talk nice, penalize our best, pretend blacks and LGBT’s are America’s greatest assets and work hard for Mexico’s people?
- Thread starter BrokeLoser
- Start date
Who was that?You’re guy raped a woman in the Senate halls.We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Great then! You agree we cannot allow Democrats. Splendid that we agree !
We installed Biden as President-Elect. Decency is here again.
America is now in remission. The cancer has been voted out.
Your decency is sniffing young girls hair.....and selling out your heritage to China?
Do you have no values? You do realize that this could mean all your welfare benefits get cut, don't you ?
Your blob actually paid a porn star for sex. Fuck off.
You do like to play dumb, don’t you?
What We Know About Tara Reade’s Allegation That Joe Biden Sexually Assaulted Her
Joe Biden has denied a former staffer's allegation that he sexually assaulted her in 1993. Here's what we know about the accusation.
biden aint that clean....the guys a life long politician.....Are we sure we want to establish the aforementioned as the winning formula for the highest most powerful office in the world?
Should we elect the person selling the most ‘feel good stuff’ or are we supposed to elect the person who will and can keep our country on the same path of success it’s been on for more the two centuries?
We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
danielpalos
Diamond Member
- Banned
- #24
Right wing elected Capitalists are much more corrupt.biden aint that clean....the guys a life long politician.....Are we sure we want to establish the aforementioned as the winning formula for the highest most powerful office in the world?
Should we elect the person selling the most ‘feel good stuff’ or are we supposed to elect the person who will and can keep our country on the same path of success it’s been on for more the two centuries?
We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
do you even know what you are talking about?....Was it her turn to, take it like a Woman?You’re guy raped a woman in the Senate halls.We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Great then! You agree we cannot allow Democrats. Splendid that we agree !
We installed Biden as President-Elect. Decency is here again.
America is now in remission. The cancer has been voted out.
Your decency is sniffing young girls hair.....and selling out your heritage to China?
Do you have no values? You do realize that this could mean all your welfare benefits get cut, don't you ?
Your blob actually paid a porn star for sex. Fuck off.
so the left winger capitalist can be corrupt because you think the other side is worse,so you look the other way with them........gotcha danny.....Right wing elected Capitalists are much more corrupt.biden aint that clean....the guys a life long politician.....Are we sure we want to establish the aforementioned as the winning formula for the highest most powerful office in the world?
Should we elect the person selling the most ‘feel good stuff’ or are we supposed to elect the person who will and can keep our country on the same path of success it’s been on for more the two centuries?
We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
It's over Harry The con is in Trump just scooping up what suckers are sending him
rump's campaign launched its broadest challenge yet to the results of the election that appears destined to push him from office, accusing Pennsylvania officials of running a "two-tiered” voting system — in-person and mail — that violates the U.S. Constitution.
Legal experts said the case has little chance of succeeding, for a variety of reasons: Courts are wary of invalidating legally cast ballots. The issues raised, even if true, don't represent a constitutional question. And mail voting, used in many states, is both common and constitutional.
The suit has "lots of complaints about different things, and it’s not easy to see how they all fit together," said Kermit Roosevelt, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School who focuses on constitutional law.
"This has a very 'throw it all at the wall and see what sticks' feel," he said.
'FRAUD' FACT CHECKS:
It claims Trump campaign observers were blocked from the access needed to detect and challenge inadequate verification of voters' identities and other alleged improprieties.
But as with other lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign and its allies, the federal complaint offered little evidence to back its claims.
Most mail ballots supported Biden
Most mail ballots in Pennsylvania favored Joe Biden, the Democratic challenger who has been projected the winner. The lawsuit argues that in-person voting, which favored Trump, had stricter safeguards, including adequate verification of voters’ identities and monitoring by observers.
In-person voting was marked by "transparency and verifiability," the lawsuit claims. Mail balloting, on the other hand, "was cloaked in darkness and complied with none of those transparency and verifiability requirements."
David Becker, executive director and founder of the Center for Election Innovation and Research, said the Trump campaign "continues to spread lies about transparency of this process and the access to observers. Trump campaign observers and Republican party observers were present at every moment that every ballot was considered in Pennsylvania."
He said the Trump campaign admitted as much during a hearing before a federal judge last week, when a lawyer said there were "a non-zero number" of observers from the campaign present during ballot counting in Philadelphia.
Fact check:We fact-checked President Trump's speech about the election. Here's what we found.
Noah Feldman, a professor at Harvard Law School, noted that Pennsylvania's system for identifying voters is the same — verification of their signature — whether they cast ballots in person or by mail.
The lawsuit also criticizes the three-day extension of the deadline for receiving absentee and mail votes, from Election Day until Nov. 6. The change, recommended by the Secretary of State's office and upheld by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, is now the subject of a state GOP request for an emergency injunction by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Legal experts say lawsuit has no merit
Trump's campaign lawsuit seeks a temporary injunction preventing the state from certifying election results.
Laura Humphrey, a spokeswoman for Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar, said the office could not comment on pending litigation. Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro called the suit "meritless" and said the election was "overseen by bipartisan election officials and was lawful, fair and secure."
Shapiro said the lawsuit will end up like others filed in Pennsylvania, "found to have no merit by courts at all levels."
Legal experts agreed.
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Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of the University of California at Berkeley School of Law, said in an email he could not imagine federal courts citing insufficient oversight of ballot counting "as the basis for disallowing votes."
"What is crucial is that courts are very reluctant to disqualify ballots that were lawfully cast," Chemerinsky said.
Rick Hasen, an election law expert from the University of California in Irvine, said the lawsuit is “extremely unlikely” to change the outcome in Pennsylvania or the national outcome favoring Biden.
“Its key claim, that there’s some inequality in the treatment of mail-in ballot and in-person ballots, could have been brought months ago,” Hasen said. “It does not seem calculated to get any relief other than delay.”
Barry Richard, who represented President George W. Bush in the legal fight over the 2000 presidential race, said the alleged violations raised in the complaint — including unequal treatment of in-person and mail-in voters, the unauthorized extension of time to resolve signature issues, unsolicited mail-in ballots sent to voters, and positioning poll watchers far from ballot processing — do not rise to the level of federal violations that could go before the U.S. Supreme Court.
If upheld, allegations would cast shadow over mail voting elsewhere
The Trump campaign invokes the Equal Protection Clause, alleging mail-in voters were not subjected to the same verification and level of transparency as in-person voters. That's not a violation of the Equal Protection Clause, Richard said, because voters can choose whether to vote in person or by mail, and the issue at hand is that ballots — not voters — are treated differently.
Danielle Lang, co-director of voting rights and redistricting at the Campaign Legal Center, an organization that supports unrestricted access to voting, said the lawsuit "is essentially an attempt to disallow mail-in voting after the fact." By extension, that would cast a shadow over the accuracy and reliability of mail voting in other states, including those that Trump won, she said.
Steve Vladeck
@steve_vladeck
The basic claim at the heart of Trump’s new PA lawsuit is that mail-in voting *itself* is unconstitutional. Never mind that we’ve had it for decades. Never mind that they’d had months to make this argument. Never mind that it would disenfranchise tens of millions of Americans.
3:38 PM · Nov 9, 2020
We asked nine legal experts about Trump's latest lawsuit challenging election results in Pennsylvania. Their verdict: Dead on arrival.
The Secretary of State's guidance, Becker said, was known well before the election and litigated. Now that they know the score, the Trump campaign wants to change the rules," he said.
And Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law expert at Harvard Law School, said the lawsuit "fails to allege facts sufficient to support a conclusion that the relief sought would alter the election's result — a key difference between this complaint and the submission leading the Supreme Court to intervene in the state recount in Bush v. Gore."
As of Monday, Biden led in Pennsylvania by more than 45,000 votes — greater than Trump’s lead when he won Pennsylvania in 2016.
“Neither Trump nor (Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton) raised questions then,” Becker said. “We literally have done mail-in voting all over the country for almost 200 years. This is not a new thing.”
“Are they complaining about mail-in voting in Utah where President Trump won and which has always done mail-in voting?” Becker asked. “Are they complaining in other states, such as Ohio and Florida, which saw massive amounts of mail-in voting?
rump's campaign launched its broadest challenge yet to the results of the election that appears destined to push him from office, accusing Pennsylvania officials of running a "two-tiered” voting system — in-person and mail — that violates the U.S. Constitution.
Legal experts said the case has little chance of succeeding, for a variety of reasons: Courts are wary of invalidating legally cast ballots. The issues raised, even if true, don't represent a constitutional question. And mail voting, used in many states, is both common and constitutional.
The suit has "lots of complaints about different things, and it’s not easy to see how they all fit together," said Kermit Roosevelt, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School who focuses on constitutional law.
"This has a very 'throw it all at the wall and see what sticks' feel," he said.
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It claims Trump campaign observers were blocked from the access needed to detect and challenge inadequate verification of voters' identities and other alleged improprieties.
But as with other lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign and its allies, the federal complaint offered little evidence to back its claims.
Most mail ballots supported Biden
Most mail ballots in Pennsylvania favored Joe Biden, the Democratic challenger who has been projected the winner. The lawsuit argues that in-person voting, which favored Trump, had stricter safeguards, including adequate verification of voters’ identities and monitoring by observers.
In-person voting was marked by "transparency and verifiability," the lawsuit claims. Mail balloting, on the other hand, "was cloaked in darkness and complied with none of those transparency and verifiability requirements."
David Becker, executive director and founder of the Center for Election Innovation and Research, said the Trump campaign "continues to spread lies about transparency of this process and the access to observers. Trump campaign observers and Republican party observers were present at every moment that every ballot was considered in Pennsylvania."
He said the Trump campaign admitted as much during a hearing before a federal judge last week, when a lawyer said there were "a non-zero number" of observers from the campaign present during ballot counting in Philadelphia.
Fact check:We fact-checked President Trump's speech about the election. Here's what we found.
Noah Feldman, a professor at Harvard Law School, noted that Pennsylvania's system for identifying voters is the same — verification of their signature — whether they cast ballots in person or by mail.
The lawsuit also criticizes the three-day extension of the deadline for receiving absentee and mail votes, from Election Day until Nov. 6. The change, recommended by the Secretary of State's office and upheld by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, is now the subject of a state GOP request for an emergency injunction by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Legal experts say lawsuit has no merit
Trump's campaign lawsuit seeks a temporary injunction preventing the state from certifying election results.
Laura Humphrey, a spokeswoman for Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar, said the office could not comment on pending litigation. Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro called the suit "meritless" and said the election was "overseen by bipartisan election officials and was lawful, fair and secure."
Shapiro said the lawsuit will end up like others filed in Pennsylvania, "found to have no merit by courts at all levels."
Legal experts agreed.
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Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of the University of California at Berkeley School of Law, said in an email he could not imagine federal courts citing insufficient oversight of ballot counting "as the basis for disallowing votes."
"What is crucial is that courts are very reluctant to disqualify ballots that were lawfully cast," Chemerinsky said.
Rick Hasen, an election law expert from the University of California in Irvine, said the lawsuit is “extremely unlikely” to change the outcome in Pennsylvania or the national outcome favoring Biden.
“Its key claim, that there’s some inequality in the treatment of mail-in ballot and in-person ballots, could have been brought months ago,” Hasen said. “It does not seem calculated to get any relief other than delay.”
Barry Richard, who represented President George W. Bush in the legal fight over the 2000 presidential race, said the alleged violations raised in the complaint — including unequal treatment of in-person and mail-in voters, the unauthorized extension of time to resolve signature issues, unsolicited mail-in ballots sent to voters, and positioning poll watchers far from ballot processing — do not rise to the level of federal violations that could go before the U.S. Supreme Court.
If upheld, allegations would cast shadow over mail voting elsewhere
The Trump campaign invokes the Equal Protection Clause, alleging mail-in voters were not subjected to the same verification and level of transparency as in-person voters. That's not a violation of the Equal Protection Clause, Richard said, because voters can choose whether to vote in person or by mail, and the issue at hand is that ballots — not voters — are treated differently.
Danielle Lang, co-director of voting rights and redistricting at the Campaign Legal Center, an organization that supports unrestricted access to voting, said the lawsuit "is essentially an attempt to disallow mail-in voting after the fact." By extension, that would cast a shadow over the accuracy and reliability of mail voting in other states, including those that Trump won, she said.
Steve Vladeck
@steve_vladeck
The basic claim at the heart of Trump’s new PA lawsuit is that mail-in voting *itself* is unconstitutional. Never mind that we’ve had it for decades. Never mind that they’d had months to make this argument. Never mind that it would disenfranchise tens of millions of Americans.
3:38 PM · Nov 9, 2020
We asked nine legal experts about Trump's latest lawsuit challenging election results in Pennsylvania. Their verdict: Dead on arrival.
The Secretary of State's guidance, Becker said, was known well before the election and litigated. Now that they know the score, the Trump campaign wants to change the rules," he said.
And Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law expert at Harvard Law School, said the lawsuit "fails to allege facts sufficient to support a conclusion that the relief sought would alter the election's result — a key difference between this complaint and the submission leading the Supreme Court to intervene in the state recount in Bush v. Gore."
As of Monday, Biden led in Pennsylvania by more than 45,000 votes — greater than Trump’s lead when he won Pennsylvania in 2016.
“Neither Trump nor (Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton) raised questions then,” Becker said. “We literally have done mail-in voting all over the country for almost 200 years. This is not a new thing.”
“Are they complaining about mail-in voting in Utah where President Trump won and which has always done mail-in voting?” Becker asked. “Are they complaining in other states, such as Ohio and Florida, which saw massive amounts of mail-in voting?
eddie what does this have to do with what i was talking about?....
danielpalos
Diamond Member
- Banned
- #30
do you even know what you are talking about?....Was it her turn to, take it like a Woman?You’re guy raped a woman in the Senate halls.We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Great then! You agree we cannot allow Democrats. Splendid that we agree !
We installed Biden as President-Elect. Decency is here again.
America is now in remission. The cancer has been voted out.
Your decency is sniffing young girls hair.....and selling out your heritage to China?
Do you have no values? You do realize that this could mean all your welfare benefits get cut, don't you ?
Your blob actually paid a porn star for sex. Fuck off.
lol. More than you, obviously.
there is dannies typical answer.... the little smilie....to danny thats an intelligent answer...do you even know what you are talking about?....Was it her turn to, take it like a Woman?You’re guy raped a woman in the Senate halls.We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Great then! You agree we cannot allow Democrats. Splendid that we agree !
We installed Biden as President-Elect. Decency is here again.
America is now in remission. The cancer has been voted out.
Your decency is sniffing young girls hair.....and selling out your heritage to China?
Do you have no values? You do realize that this could mean all your welfare benefits get cut, don't you ?
Your blob actually paid a porn star for sex. Fuck off.
in your little world you know more than anyone danny...try the real world sometime....do you even know what you are talking about?....Was it her turn to, take it like a Woman?You’re guy raped a woman in the Senate halls.We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Great then! You agree we cannot allow Democrats. Splendid that we agree !
We installed Biden as President-Elect. Decency is here again.
America is now in remission. The cancer has been voted out.
Your decency is sniffing young girls hair.....and selling out your heritage to China?
Do you have no values? You do realize that this could mean all your welfare benefits get cut, don't you ?
Your blob actually paid a porn star for sex. Fuck off.
lol. More than you, obviously.
there is dannies little smilie again....whats the matter danny cant discuss things?.....so the left winger capitalist can be corrupt because you think the other side is worse,so you look the other way with them........gotcha danny.....Right wing elected Capitalists are much more corrupt.biden aint that clean....the guys a life long politician.....Are we sure we want to establish the aforementioned as the winning formula for the highest most powerful office in the world?
Should we elect the person selling the most ‘feel good stuff’ or are we supposed to elect the person who will and can keep our country on the same path of success it’s been on for more the two centuries?
We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Are we sure we want to establish the aforementioned as the winning formula for the highest most powerful office in the world?
Should we elect the person selling the most ‘feel good stuff’ or are we supposed to elect the person who will and can keep our country on the same path of success it’s been on for more the two centuries?
We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Sorry, cc, but decency isn't selling out the US, bribing and extorting numerous countries, being compromised by china. No, there's nothing decent about biden.
Wyatt earp
Diamond Member
- Apr 21, 2012
- 69,975
- 16,383
- 2,180
Every guy alive pays a woman for sex, who are you kidding?We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Great then! You agree we cannot allow Democrats. Splendid that we agree !
We installed Biden as President-Elect. Decency is here again.
America is now in remission. The cancer has been voted out.
Your decency is sniffing young girls hair.....and selling out your heritage to China?
Do you have no values? You do realize that this could mean all your welfare benefits get cut, don't you ?
Your blob actually paid a porn star for sex. Fuck off.
I'm sorry you have to do that. Most really do not.Every guy alive pays a woman for sex, who are you kidding?We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Great then! You agree we cannot allow Democrats. Splendid that we agree !
We installed Biden as President-Elect. Decency is here again.
America is now in remission. The cancer has been voted out.
Your decency is sniffing young girls hair.....and selling out your heritage to China?
Do you have no values? You do realize that this could mean all your welfare benefits get cut, don't you ?
Your blob actually paid a porn star for sex. Fuck off.
Wyatt earp
Diamond Member
- Apr 21, 2012
- 69,975
- 16,383
- 2,180
Unfortunately your wrong .I'm sorry you have to do that. Most really do not.Every guy alive pays a woman for sex, who are you kidding?We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Great then! You agree we cannot allow Democrats. Splendid that we agree !
We installed Biden as President-Elect. Decency is here again.
America is now in remission. The cancer has been voted out.
Your decency is sniffing young girls hair.....and selling out your heritage to China?
Do you have no values? You do realize that this could mean all your welfare benefits get cut, don't you ?
Your blob actually paid a porn star for sex. Fuck off.
Unfortunately your wrong .I'm sorry you have to do that. Most really do not.Every guy alive pays a woman for sex, who are you kidding?We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Great then! You agree we cannot allow Democrats. Splendid that we agree !
We installed Biden as President-Elect. Decency is here again.
America is now in remission. The cancer has been voted out.
Your decency is sniffing young girls hair.....and selling out your heritage to China?
Do you have no values? You do realize that this could mean all your welfare benefits get cut, don't you ?
Your blob actually paid a porn star for sex. Fuck off.
You're a guy. You said all guys paid a woman for sex. So that means you are just that pathetically desperate.
I must say...I'm not surprised at all you had to stoop to such things.
danielpalos
Diamond Member
- Banned
- #39
You are not the majority.in your little world you know more than anyone danny...try the real world sometime....do you even know what you are talking about?....Was it her turn to, take it like a Woman?You’re guy raped a woman in the Senate halls.We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
Great then! You agree we cannot allow Democrats. Splendid that we agree !
We installed Biden as President-Elect. Decency is here again.
America is now in remission. The cancer has been voted out.
Your decency is sniffing young girls hair.....and selling out your heritage to China?
Do you have no values? You do realize that this could mean all your welfare benefits get cut, don't you ?
Your blob actually paid a porn star for sex. Fuck off.
lol. More than you, obviously.
danielpalos
Diamond Member
- Banned
- #40
Projection much right wingers? Hoax is all y'all usually have.there is dannies little smilie again....whats the matter danny cant discuss things?.....so the left winger capitalist can be corrupt because you think the other side is worse,so you look the other way with them........gotcha danny.....Right wing elected Capitalists are much more corrupt.biden aint that clean....the guys a life long politician.....Are we sure we want to establish the aforementioned as the winning formula for the highest most powerful office in the world?
Should we elect the person selling the most ‘feel good stuff’ or are we supposed to elect the person who will and can keep our country on the same path of success it’s been on for more the two centuries?
We should instill a decent human being (like we did on 11/3). The rest sorts itself out.
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