WINNING!!!!! DOW up over 2000 points in one day

Cult logic: Trump creates a disaster, then tries to salvage it, and the cult credits him for "fixing it." What part of this makes any sense to you ppl?
leverage? show the world he will work with them but he's not going to bend over to do so, now these countries are like oh no, we can't get away with it now like under flat line biden so we better work with this guy

strategy.......end game.......art of the deal
 
The MAGA have no idea that today was a blown call and then a bluff that saved Trump's butt.

Let's see if he gets luck tomorrow and Friday.
 
The MAGA have no idea that today was a blown call and then a bluff that saved Trump's butt.

Let's see if he gets luck tomorrow and Friday.
if he gets lucky? he has zero control over the stock market, the market makers do and big fund managers plus all the a-holes in congress who can use insider trading legally to make money
 
leverage? show the world he will work with them but he's not going to bend over to do so, now these countries are like oh no, we can't get away with it now like under flat line biden so we better work with this guy

strategy.......end game.......art of the deal

What exactly were they "getting away" with?
 
What exactly were they "getting away" with?
taxing us higher than we taxed them perhaps? our tariffs were under 4%, do the math

Here are the top 10 countries with the highest average applied tariffs on U.S. goods before Trump’s first term began:
  1. India - 13.5% (trade-weighted average, 2016 WTO data). Specific U.S. goods faced higher rates—e.g., motorcycles like Harley-Davidson hit 60%-100%, and agricultural products averaged 32.8% (simple MFN tariff). No major retaliation yet, just high baseline protectionism.
  2. South Korea - 13.2% (trade-weighted average). Pre-KORUS FTA renegotiation (2018), U.S. autos faced 8%, but ag products like nuts hit 30%-40%. Tariffs were already dropping due to the 2012 FTA but still stung in spots.
  3. Vietnam - 9.5% (trade-weighted average). U.S. machinery and consumer goods often saw 20%-40%, reflecting Vietnam’s emerging-market protections before deeper U.S. trade spats.
  4. China - 9.9% (trade-weighted average, 2016). Pre-trade war, U.S. exports like autos faced 15%, and some ag goods (e.g., sorghum) hit 20%. This jumped later in 2018, but 2016 was calmer under WTO norms.
  5. Tunisia - 19.5% (simple MFN average). High duties on U.S. vehicles and industrial goods—often 30%+—kept it pricey, though trade volume was small.
  6. Algeria - 18.9% (MFN average). U.S. machinery and electronics imports saw 20%-30%, typical for North African protectionism.
  7. Gabon - 18.1% (MFN average). U.S. industrial exports faced steep rates, often 20%-25%, though oil dominated their economy, not U.S. trade.
  8. Thailand - 10.9% (trade-weighted average). U.S. autos and electronics hit 20%-40%, with ag products like rice at lower rates but still protective.
  9. Egypt - 16.8% (MFN average). U.S. consumer goods and machinery faced 20%-30%, part of Egypt’s high-tariff regime before any Trump-era shifts.
  10. Brazil - 10.2% (trade-weighted average). U.S. industrial goods averaged 14%, with peaks like 25% on chemicals and machinery, reflecting Mercosur barriers.
 
on what? t-shirts? we don't buy their shit cars and they don't buy our cars, if it's not raw materials it does not effect you and me

You think China only exports tshirts here? Even if that were the case, are you saying the clothing industry in America isn't ginormous? I guess we don't need clothes anymore
 
taxing us higher than we taxed them perhaps? our tariffs were under 4%, do the math

Here are the top 10 countries with the highest average applied tariffs on U.S. goods before Trump’s first term began:
  1. India - 13.5% (trade-weighted average, 2016 WTO data). Specific U.S. goods faced higher rates—e.g., motorcycles like Harley-Davidson hit 60%-100%, and agricultural products averaged 32.8% (simple MFN tariff). No major retaliation yet, just high baseline protectionism.
  2. South Korea - 13.2% (trade-weighted average). Pre-KORUS FTA renegotiation (2018), U.S. autos faced 8%, but ag products like nuts hit 30%-40%. Tariffs were already dropping due to the 2012 FTA but still stung in spots.
  3. Vietnam - 9.5% (trade-weighted average). U.S. machinery and consumer goods often saw 20%-40%, reflecting Vietnam’s emerging-market protections before deeper U.S. trade spats.
  4. China - 9.9% (trade-weighted average, 2016). Pre-trade war, U.S. exports like autos faced 15%, and some ag goods (e.g., sorghum) hit 20%. This jumped later in 2018, but 2016 was calmer under WTO norms.
  5. Tunisia - 19.5% (simple MFN average). High duties on U.S. vehicles and industrial goods—often 30%+—kept it pricey, though trade volume was small.
  6. Algeria - 18.9% (MFN average). U.S. machinery and electronics imports saw 20%-30%, typical for North African protectionism.
  7. Gabon - 18.1% (MFN average). U.S. industrial exports faced steep rates, often 20%-25%, though oil dominated their economy, not U.S. trade.
  8. Thailand - 10.9% (trade-weighted average). U.S. autos and electronics hit 20%-40%, with ag products like rice at lower rates but still protective.
  9. Egypt - 16.8% (MFN average). U.S. consumer goods and machinery faced 20%-30%, part of Egypt’s high-tariff regime before any Trump-era shifts.
  10. Brazil - 10.2% (trade-weighted average). U.S. industrial goods averaged 14%, with peaks like 25% on chemicals and machinery, reflecting Mercosur barriers.

Countries might impose a tariff on a particular product in order to protect that industry. The US does the exact same shit. It helps to maintain a competitive balance. Imposing a universal tariff on all imports because you're butthurt the exporting country isn't buying enough from us even though they're 20-100x smaller in population and economy is literally the most braindead logic on the planet. It makes even less sense when you tariff products that we don't even make here! You're not "evening the playing field" with a universal tariff on 100 countries, what you're doing is setting yourself up for economic collapse.
 
:dance::hyper: Doing the new Nvidia stock holders dance.
 
You think China only exports tshirts here? Even if that were the case, are you saying the clothing industry in America isn't ginormous? I guess we don't need clothes anymore
haha, hanes and fruit of the loom the two biggest US companies make their cloth in the caribbean which does have any tariff

so no the impact on some chinese coats and other cheap cloths has a very small impact vs raw goods like lithium, iron ore, copper,etc
 
Countries might impose a tariff on a particular product in order to protect that industry. The US does the exact same shit. It helps to maintain a competitive balance. Imposing a universal tariff on all imports because you're butthurt the exporting country isn't buying enough from us even though they're 20-100x smaller in population and economy is literally the most braindead logic on the planet. It makes even less sense when you tariff products that we don't even make here! You're not "evening the playing field" with a universal tariff on 100 countries, what you're doing is setting yourself up for economic collapse.
yes that is what tariffs are for............tariffs 101, welcome to the club :)
 
Countries might impose a tariff on a particular product in order to protect that industry. The US does the exact same shit. It helps to maintain a competitive balance. Imposing a universal tariff on all imports because you're butthurt the exporting country isn't buying enough from us even though they're 20-100x smaller in population and economy is literally the most braindead logic on the planet. It makes even less sense when you tariff products that we don't even make here! You're not "evening the playing field" with a universal tariff on 100 countries, what you're doing is setting yourself up for economic collapse.
Then why were all the tariffs imposed on small regions of the USA by other countries so successful...for the other countries? According to your theory, those countries should have "set themselves up for economic collapse"???
 
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It’s a 90-day delay to give the 75 countries who want to negotiate time to do so. His plan is working.

And he increased the tariffs on China.

You’re too deranged with TDS to see it.
 
Okay, he folded and it put us in an even better position to negotiate tariffs with 75+ countries and put China behind the eight ball. LOL!
Are we in a better position? Because the only thing he has as leverage are tariffs and the world has seen what happens to our markets when he institutes those massive tariffs.

But again, the larger point you miss is that he's negotiating with countries which have very low tariffs, so the marginal gain is modest.
 
yes that is what tariffs are for............tariffs 101, welcome to the club :)

So why make an erroneous claim that these countries are somehow "getting away" with something. If you actually understood tariffs, you would simply accept that is this business as usual and completely normal.
 
Okay, he folded and it put us in an even better position to negotiate tariffs with 75+ countries and put China behind the eight ball.
Trump has the American consumer behind the eight ball.
 
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