Will Trump's Appeasement Policies Work?

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Overall, Trump has appeared to try to play the role of neutral mediator in order to find a peaceful resolution to the conflict. I approve of this, as we must try to negotiate for peace instead of immediately escalating. Now, immediately after good faith effort was put into the peace plan and concessions (surrender) was put on the table, Putin has immediately rejected the offerings and declared that he will increase his demands.


The breakaway (from Moldova) Russian enclave of Transnistria is preparing for war (probably an offensive against the western/Odessa part of Ukraine), nuclear capable ballistic missiles and a large number of troops have been deployed in Belarus along the Polish border, and the newly conquered nation of Georgia has been turned into a production facility for Putin's war machine. Russian propagandists continue threatening Europe with nuclear devastation if they do not capitulate to demands, and also the Russian propagandists are threatening the use of it's "Poseidon" nuclear capabilities against the coastal cities of the USA. At the same time, China continues it's takeover of the outer islands of the Philippines and has made it's intentions to take Taiwan very clear. Several encounters have been reported between Japanese and Chinese naval ships. China is maintaining control of the Panama Canal in central America, as well as voicing support for the Maduro regime in Venezuela. North Korea has vowed to tripple it's production of missiles, drones, and artillery shells. Iran also continues it's development of possibly nuclear capable ballistic missiles.

The problem is this: there must be a point at which we draw a line. History shows that appeasement to evil aggressors will only embolden them. It didn't work with Hitler, and it doesn't seem to be working with Putin or the communist block.
 
Overall, Trump has appeared to try to play the role of neutral mediator in order to find a peaceful resolution to the conflict. I approve of this, as we must try to negotiate for peace instead of immediately escalating. Now, immediately after good faith effort was put into the peace plan and concessions (surrender) was put on the table, Putin has immediately rejected the offerings and declared that he will increase his demands.


The breakaway (from Moldova) Russian enclave of Transnistria is preparing for war (probably an offensive against the western/Odessa part of Ukraine), nuclear capable ballistic missiles and a large number of troops have been deployed in Belarus along the Polish border, and the newly conquered nation of Georgia has been turned into a production facility for Putin's war machine. Russian propagandists continue threatening Europe with nuclear devastation if they do not capitulate to demands, and also the Russian propagandists are threatening the use of it's "Poseidon" nuclear capabilities against the coastal cities of the USA. At the same time, China continues it's takeover of the outer islands of the Philippines and has made it's intentions to take Taiwan very clear. Several encounters have been reported between Japanese and Chinese naval ships. China is maintaining control of the Panama Canal in central America, as well as voicing support for the Maduro regime in Venezuela. North Korea has vowed to tripple it's production of missiles, drones, and artillery shells. Iran also continues it's development of possibly nuclear capable ballistic missiles.

The problem is this: there must be a point at which we draw a line. History shows that appeasement to evil aggressors will only embolden them. It didn't work with Hitler, and it doesn't seem to be working with Putin or the communist block.
Well, China has surrounded Taiwan and continues to fund Russia war. Thus, I presume within the next few weeks to few years the world is going to find out if decades of the West appeasing communist China was the right play. Russia is playing the long game as is China, thats the Communist way.

We all hope China becomes a free nation with free markets and civil liberties. It doesnt appear this will happen so we cannot keep propping them up and becoming more like them. Canada has been quietly worse than China in some respects as we have enforced a caste. However, we havent been outright funding Russias war
 
Overall, Trump has appeared to try to play the role of neutral mediator in order to find a peaceful resolution to the conflict. I approve of this, as we must try to negotiate for peace instead of immediately escalating. Now, immediately after good faith effort was put into the peace plan and concessions (surrender) was put on the table, Putin has immediately rejected the offerings and declared that he will increase his demands.


The breakaway (from Moldova) Russian enclave of Transnistria is preparing for war (probably an offensive against the western/Odessa part of Ukraine), nuclear capable ballistic missiles and a large number of troops have been deployed in Belarus along the Polish border, and the newly conquered nation of Georgia has been turned into a production facility for Putin's war machine. Russian propagandists continue threatening Europe with nuclear devastation if they do not capitulate to demands, and also the Russian propagandists are threatening the use of it's "Poseidon" nuclear capabilities against the coastal cities of the USA. At the same time, China continues it's takeover of the outer islands of the Philippines and has made it's intentions to take Taiwan very clear. Several encounters have been reported between Japanese and Chinese naval ships. China is maintaining control of the Panama Canal in central America, as well as voicing support for the Maduro regime in Venezuela. North Korea has vowed to tripple it's production of missiles, drones, and artillery shells. Iran also continues it's development of possibly nuclear capable ballistic missiles.

The problem is this: there must be a point at which we draw a line. History shows that appeasement to evil aggressors will only embolden them. It didn't work with Hitler, and it doesn't seem to be working with Putin or the communist block.
Trump is useless as a mediator.

Thai-Cambodian conflict, they're mediating by themselves now, as with Trump showing off, it didn't work. The Rwanda-DRC conflict had a "peace treaty" that didn't include one of the combatants who just ignored it.
 
Overall, Trump has appeared to try to play the role of neutral mediator in order to find a peaceful resolution to the conflict. I approve of this, as we must try to negotiate for peace instead of immediately escalating. Now, immediately after good faith effort was put into the peace plan and concessions (surrender) was put on the table, Putin has immediately rejected the offerings and declared that he will increase his demands.


The breakaway (from Moldova) Russian enclave of Transnistria is preparing for war (probably an offensive against the western/Odessa part of Ukraine), nuclear capable ballistic missiles and a large number of troops have been deployed in Belarus along the Polish border, and the newly conquered nation of Georgia has been turned into a production facility for Putin's war machine. Russian propagandists continue threatening Europe with nuclear devastation if they do not capitulate to demands, and also the Russian propagandists are threatening the use of it's "Poseidon" nuclear capabilities against the coastal cities of the USA. At the same time, China continues it's takeover of the outer islands of the Philippines and has made it's intentions to take Taiwan very clear. Several encounters have been reported between Japanese and Chinese naval ships. China is maintaining control of the Panama Canal in central America, as well as voicing support for the Maduro regime in Venezuela. North Korea has vowed to tripple it's production of missiles, drones, and artillery shells. Iran also continues it's development of possibly nuclear capable ballistic missiles.

The problem is this: there must be a point at which we draw a line. History shows that appeasement to evil aggressors will only embolden them. It didn't work with Hitler, and it doesn't seem to be working with Putin or the communist block.
What planet are you posting from?
 
enforced a caste

I'm curious what you mean by this?

Do you mean like DEI, where the "Equity" concept is the fundamental ideology that some groups "deserve" to be treated differently than others?
 
Trump is useless as a mediator.

Thai-Cambodian conflict, they're mediating by themselves now, as with Trump showing off, it didn't work. The Rwanda-DRC conflict had a "peace treaty" that didn't include one of the combatants who just ignored it.

I don't mean to start a Party based war here, but I must point out that the Biden administration let the brutal war in Ukraine rage on for 3 years without one meeting or attempt at negotiations. Nor, to my knowledge, any of the other conflicts you rightly point out.

If you don't like Trump's mediation efforts, what would you recommend to do about the situation in Ukraine/Europe? How would you go about it?
 
What planet are you posting from?
The one where all life is precious.

Same question to you: if you don't like what DTJ has done, what would you do differently?
 
I don't mean to start a Party based war here, but I must point out that the Biden administration let the brutal war in Ukraine rage on for 3 years without one meeting or attempt at negotiations. Nor, to my knowledge, any of the other conflicts you rightly point out.

If you don't like Trump's mediation efforts, what would you recommend to do about the situation in Ukraine/Europe? How would you go about it?

So, Biden didn't negotiate with a guy who doesn't want to negotiate.

Trump has negotiated with a guy who doesn't want to negotiate.

Who is smarter?

Trump boasted he'd end the war on day one. It's nearly day 365 and he's nowhere nearer to a peace deal than he was at the beginning of the year.

Putin is constantly playing Trump, just so he can show his people that he's the man and Trump is a moron.

How could they end the war? Join the war. Kick Russia out of the Ukraine. Russia wouldn't be able to cope with the Vatican City invading Russia right now. They're so weak, everything they have, and more (like North Korean troops) are struggling to take 20 meters of land a year.
 
The one where all life is precious.

Same question to you: if you don't like what DTJ has done, what would you do differently?
I knew it wasn't, this one.

What do you call it?
 
Overall, Trump has appeared to try to play the role of neutral mediator in order to find a peaceful resolution to the conflict. I approve of this, as we must try to negotiate for peace instead of immediately escalating. Now, immediately after good faith effort was put into the peace plan and concessions (surrender) was put on the table, Putin has immediately rejected the offerings and declared that he will increase his demands.


The breakaway (from Moldova) Russian enclave of Transnistria is preparing for war (probably an offensive against the western/Odessa part of Ukraine), nuclear capable ballistic missiles and a large number of troops have been deployed in Belarus along the Polish border, and the newly conquered nation of Georgia has been turned into a production facility for Putin's war machine. Russian propagandists continue threatening Europe with nuclear devastation if they do not capitulate to demands, and also the Russian propagandists are threatening the use of it's "Poseidon" nuclear capabilities against the coastal cities of the USA. At the same time, China continues it's takeover of the outer islands of the Philippines and has made it's intentions to take Taiwan very clear. Several encounters have been reported between Japanese and Chinese naval ships. China is maintaining control of the Panama Canal in central America, as well as voicing support for the Maduro regime in Venezuela. North Korea has vowed to tripple it's production of missiles, drones, and artillery shells. Iran also continues it's development of possibly nuclear capable ballistic missiles.

The problem is this: there must be a point at which we draw a line. History shows that appeasement to evil aggressors will only embolden them. It didn't work with Hitler, and it doesn't seem to be working with Putin or the communist block.

You list these... things like they are related or significant.

Russia has troops on the polish border? SO what? I bet Poland has troops on that same border. Does that mean POLAND is planning to invande?
 
Overall, Trump has appeared to try to play the role of neutral mediator in order to find a peaceful resolution to the conflict. I approve of this, as we must try to negotiate for peace instead of immediately escalating.
And then Trump bombs Venezuela. And there goes his "legacy" of being the "President of peace." Two-faced con-artist and warmonger.
 
You list these... things like they are related or significant.

Russia has troops on the polish border? SO what? I bet Poland has troops on that same border. Does that mean POLAND is planning to invande?
They are related and they are significant.

Russia put troops on the border of Georgia, and said "we are not going to take over Georgia". Then he took over Gerogia.

Russia put troops on the border of Ukraine, and said "we are not going to invade Ukraine". Then he invaded Ukraine.

Russia has put missiles and troops on the border of Poland, and said "we are not planning on invading EU nations, are you crazy?"

Do you see a pattern here?

Poland's build up of troops was after Russian incursions, not before. Poland has not invaded or taken over any other territories.
 
And then Trump bombs Venezuela. And there goes his "legacy" of being the "President of peace." Two-faced con-artist and warmonger.
I agree some of the actions are mishandled.

Syria? A PR campaign for finding the specific culprits of the killings, and embracing the current leader to assist us in law and order, would have served our interests MUCH better than missile strikes on people we have only 2nd hand information about. Russia still has troops stationed there. Isreal still occupies the southern areas. We should have given the local people a reason to come over to the side of law and order. This was an opportunity missed.

Nigeria? Another example of an opportunity lost. For all we know, they fed us bad coordinates and those strikes killed Christians. It looks like the issue at stake is rare earth elements being taken by "the other communists" Instead, if the current Nigerian government are truly friends of peace and prosperity, we should have empowered them to take care of their own law and order.

Venezuela? Somewhat justified. The regime did not engage in cooperative negotiations to stem the flow of crippling drugs to the USA. The regime did not engage in cooperative talks to refund the huge investments of the oil companies who opened up the oil reserves, but instead stole the property from those corporations. Still, a better scenario would be to fully recognize the president Edmundo González, who was lawfully elected (who fled to Spain), and give them teeth to negotiate and restore law and order. Another opportunity lost.

I wonder if Trump has not already been replaced by a look-a-like. His actions do not look the same as his intentions from a few years ago.
 
They are related and they are significant.

Russia put troops on the border of Georgia, and said "we are not going to take over Georgia". Then he took over Gerogia.

Russia put troops on the border of Ukraine, and said "we are not going to invade Ukraine". Then he invaded Ukraine.

Russia has put missiles and troops on the border of Poland, and said "we are not planning on invading EU nations, are you crazy?"

Do you see a pattern here?

Poland's build up of troops was after Russian incursions, not before. Poland has not invaded or taken over any other territories.


Russia has FAILED in trying to take over ukraine. Their military has been decimated in their failed operation.

They would be insane to expand the war. It would be national suicide.
 
Biden and Obama used appeasement as their policy. Trump bombed Irans nuclear sites and is destroying Venezuela's drug and oil assets. Sure thats appeasement right. Democrats will always accuse their opposition of what they are.
 
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Of course not. We have troops there for years. My daughter's intended deployed there a few years back. Thet were both Army Captains at the time. My daughter was going to Bulgaria and Romania but was not allowed to go for medical reasons.

That's my point. THe other posted listed a series of events or factoids, together, as though they were related, to build a narrative.
 
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