Fort Fun Indiana
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There is definitely truth to that.
The Republicans, in general, have been poor stewards of the economy since Clinton took office. And it's getting worse.
Will there be a Harris/trump debate?
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The Republicans, in general, have been poor stewards of the economy since Clinton took office. And it's getting worse.
Trump as Potus managed to fullfill his Promise aboutNo, nothing means anything. The same for Trump. Trump shouts his mouth off, doesn't mean anyone listened.
So you've just destroyed your own argument.
The FACT that they said they'd increase it in 10 years, before Trump got in, and after 10 years, 23 NATO countries hit that target... a coincidence? Probably not.
But it's a hell of a better argument than "Trump got angry, and then all the NATO members shat themselves and started pumping money into their military"
Maybe 23 wouldn't have hit that target in 2024 without a kick up the ass. But that kick up the ass was not Trump. It was Putin.
Why did they decide in 2014?
Obama urges NATO to increase defence spending
US president says European NATO members should "chip in" for a credible deterrent force because "freedom isn't free".www.aljazeera.com
"Obama urges NATO to increase defence spending"
26 Mar 2014
The annexation of the Crimea happened on the 18th March 2014.
So, Obama's saying this because of what Russia did.
Then Russia invades the Ukraine in 2022 and defense spending then increases within two years.
As opposed to Trump who shouted his mouth of a bit and didn't see results.
A closer look at Trump's years of criticizing NATO, particularly on defense spending
Trump has long been critical of NATO, the post-World War II alliance between the U.S. and many European countries, particularly over defense spendingabcnews.go.com
2016 before he was president he made some comments and in 2017 he did the same. Then he attacked Germany in 2019.
Germany spent 34 billion euros in 2014, added 1.1 billion the next year, 1.7 billion the year after when Trump first made his comments.
Are we suggesting Germany increased its budget two years in a row because they knew Trump would criticize NATO two years later?
By 2019 Germany was spending 46 billion, that's 13 billion more than it was spending in 2014.
In 2020 it added added another 4 billion, because of Trump? Doubtful, defense spending doesn't just increase the next year, you need to plan for this way in advance. Then because of the coronavirus spending increases weren't so high.
Then in 2024.... they spend an extra 23 billion. Why? Probably because they're sending money to the Ukraine. That's what a lot of this is. You send equipment to the Ukraine and money as defense spending, it appears.
Does it mean their defense is better? No, it doesn't.
NATO.That some countries are not paying their fair share.
Most those countries acted quick and got on board.
Making NATO whole and not expecting the U.S.
to make up any deficit.
Under Biden NATO turned WOKE.Like practically overnight.
Some countries like germany had to cope with how they'll
deal with Oil shortages.Especially in the Winter.
Biden constant pleading to make sure Ukraine
and it's President { little schnook } get all the moola
they need is part of New World Order or Marxist/Socialist
attempt to implement ... Cloward-Piven strategy
Toddsterpatriot
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Trump promised to debate Harris before he said he would not.
More bs Promises kept?
LOL
If she's the actual nominee, he'd be silly to not debate her.
Not so sure about that.It'd be a free ride for Harris.
Baiting Trump to use some racist lingo or negativity
about Feminism.She of course would Lie like a
career Convict in order to bait Trump to possibly
use wording that the MSM would taint as if
Racist talk.
The only way Trump wins is by making a Debate far into
September as possible.That way he can't be sentenced
till later in the month.No Politician in my life has ever
even remotely been Lied about as much as Trump.
Toddsterpatriot
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Free ride? Like when Tulsi popped her bubble?
frigidweirdo
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No, they said they would hit 2% by 2024 in 2014, when OBAMA was president.
But you just make it look like everything is Trump. Remember when Trump claimed the increase in the economy was because of him, and he hadn't even been president by this point??? Remember how he took credit for defeating ISIS?
You people will claim he did so many things, without understand what really happened.
Then Vance said in his book that hillbillies create their own fantasy world, and blame everyone else for their problems.... same as every other Trump supporter.
Redfish
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why did she wait 20 years to bring it up? Biden's daughter said he abused her in the shower as a little girl.Your clueless opinion is noted. It doesn't mean anything...but noted.
Your FEELINGS on this don't matter.
This is all that matters:
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr Trump in fact did ‘rape’ Ms Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.”
Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is ‘substantially true’ in court dismissal
Ex-president claimed that writer defamed him when saying he raped her, but judge said term is commonly ‘used and understood’ in contextwww.theguardian.com
On the whole and historically Trump was about as correct
as a Politician could be.And he wasn't no Politician.
So thankfully he wasn't in a class of basic career toady
Liars and braggarts like Schumer,Pelosi and Biden.
frigidweirdo
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Nonsense. He's only "correct" when you twist everything and pretend Trump was right.
Trumpworld Howls Over The Switch From Biden To Harris
Within hours of President Joe Biden withdrawing from the presidential race and endorsing Kamala Harris to run in his stead, Donald Trump had a response: It was all very unfair.
It’s his classic MO, leaning wantonly into personal grievance when nothing else will do. Biden, Trump suggested, was lying about having COVID. The Republican Party, he said, should “be reimbursed for fraud” because it had been so grossly misled.
And, Trump added, he would no longer agree to the terms of the next debate. He’d rather it be held on friendly turf – Fox News – effectively signaling that he’s dropping out of the next debate as currently scheduled.
Trumpworld Howls Over The Switch From Biden To Harris
Within hours of President Joe Biden withdrawing from the presidential race and...talkingpointsmemo.com
My debate with Crooked Joe Biden, the Worst President in the history of the United States, was slated to be broadcast on Fake News ABC, the home of George Slopadopolus, sometime in September. Now that Joe has, not surprisingly, has quit the race, I think the Debate, with whomever the Radical Left Democrats choose, should be held on FoxNews, rather than very biased ABC. Thank you! DJT
Truth Social
Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.truthsocial.com
Faux is not biased? Or is this a way to back out of debating Harris? Maybe he doesn't want to be on stage with a woman after he was found liable for sexual assault (rape in many states) for finger ******* Carroll against her will. Or because his party wants to force women to carry a fetus to term against their will.
Trump agreed to two debates with Biden. He won the first one handily, even though he let Democrats have every single advantage they asked for. Biden then backed out of the second by quitting. How is this onus on Trump?
Redfish
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Trump agreed to debate the dem candidate. they haven't even had their convention yet, there is no guarantee that cameltoe will get the nomination. the dems may dump her like they dumped joe.
marvin martian
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Trumpworld Howls Over The Switch From Biden To Harris
Within hours of President Joe Biden withdrawing from the presidential race and endorsing Kamala Harris to run in his stead, Donald Trump had a response: It was all very unfair.
It’s his classic MO, leaning wantonly into personal grievance when nothing else will do. Biden, Trump suggested, was lying about having COVID. The Republican Party, he said, should “be reimbursed for fraud” because it had been so grossly misled.
And, Trump added, he would no longer agree to the terms of the next debate. He’d rather it be held on friendly turf – Fox News – effectively signaling that he’s dropping out of the next debate as currently scheduled.
Trumpworld Howls Over The Switch From Biden To Harris
Within hours of President Joe Biden withdrawing from the presidential race and...talkingpointsmemo.com
My debate with Crooked Joe Biden, the Worst President in the history of the United States, was slated to be broadcast on Fake News ABC, the home of George Slopadopolus, sometime in September. Now that Joe has, not surprisingly, has quit the race, I think the Debate, with whomever the Radical Left Democrats choose, should be held on FoxNews, rather than very biased ABC. Thank you! DJT
Truth Social
Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.
Faux is not biased? Or is this a way to back out of debating Harris? Maybe he doesn't want to be on stage with a woman after he was found liable for sexual assault (rape in many states) for finger ******* Carroll against her will. Or because his party wants to force women to carry a fetus to term against their will.
Is Harris your nominee?
I didn't see anything official.
Redfish
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the dem power brokers cannot let their voters pick the candidate. it must be dictated by the masters.
Man With A Plan
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Isn't it amusing to watch the Party that's running on "Saving Democracy" do the most undemocratic thing that's ever been done in a US Presidential race? Who's choosing Kamala Harris? Not the American people.
MagicMike
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Sure they did...when they voted for Biden and Biden's judgement in chosing her for a running mate.
Man With A Plan
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Come on, Mike...you know as well as I do that Democratic voters haven't chosen Kamala Harris. They haven't. What's happening now is unprecedented.
Do you think she could have survived a primary contest? Her past history would question that...
MagicMike
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This year Democrat voters want the candidate that has the best chance of winning. We know that wasn't Biden.
Harris is off to an impressive start.
Vice President Kamala Harris has erased former President Donald Trump’s lead in several swing states, according to a new poll by Bloomberg News and Morning Consult.
Since President Joe Biden’s withdrawal from the 2024 race, and the successful launch of Harris’ own presidential campaign, Trump has lost his leads in Nevada, Arizona, and Wisconsin.
Harris also “more than doubled Biden’s lead over Trump in Michigan,” closed in on Trump’s lead in Georgia (where both candidates are currently at 47%), and went up in polls in Pennsylvania and North Carolina
Latest Bloomberg Polls Show ‘Kamala Harris Wipes Out Trump’s Swing-State Lead’
Vice President Kamala Harris has erased former President Donald Trump's lead in several swing states, according to a new poll by Bloomberg News.
www.mediaite.com
Trumpworld Howls Over The Switch From Biden To Harris
Within hours of President Joe Biden withdrawing from the presidential race and endorsing Kamala Harris to run in his stead, Donald Trump had a response: It was all very unfair.
It’s his classic MO, leaning wantonly into personal grievance when nothing else will do. Biden, Trump suggested, was lying about having COVID. The Republican Party, he said, should “be reimbursed for fraud” because it had been so grossly misled.
And, Trump added, he would no longer agree to the terms of the next debate. He’d rather it be held on friendly turf – Fox News – effectively signaling that he’s dropping out of the next debate as currently scheduled.
Trumpworld Howls Over The Switch From Biden To Harris
Within hours of President Joe Biden withdrawing from the presidential race and...talkingpointsmemo.com
My debate with Crooked Joe Biden, the Worst President in the history of the United States, was slated to be broadcast on Fake News ABC, the home of George Slopadopolus, sometime in September. Now that Joe has, not surprisingly, has quit the race, I think the Debate, with whomever the Radical Left Democrats choose, should be held on FoxNews, rather than very biased ABC. Thank you! DJT
Truth Social
Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.
Faux is not biased? Or is this a way to back out of debating Harris? Maybe he doesn't want to be on stage with a woman after he was found liable for sexual assault (rape in many states) for finger ******* Carroll against her will. Or because his party wants to force women to carry a fetus to term against their will.
There's no democrat nominee for the presidency, so there's no reason to debate right now. Once one is picked, the debate should clearly be hosted by FOX News.
Marener
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Why is that “clear”?
Because they are always hosted by organizations that are hostile to the Republican party. It would be nice to have one hosted by a neutral party.
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