Will The Democrats Finally Admit They Are a Socialist Party?

[CowboyTed]

Ravi

Ok, I've no idea if that is true. What I do know is that strict fire codes have reduced fires overall. Is that socialism, and if so,is it bad?

Yeah, we can't have fire resistant buildings without government because mortgage companies and insurance companies like buildings that ignite and burn like a Ronson lighter.

Socialism is based on the theory that people are too stupid to run their own lives, but their competent to give government dictatorial control over the lives.

were you paying attention when the media exposed Countrywide and others?

"If you had a pulse, we gave you a loan."

If you had a pulse we gave you a loan - Dateline NBC - The Hansen Files with Chris Hansen NBC News

Yeah, the got away with their scandalous lending practices by giving mortgages with below market interest rates to sleazy bags like Chistopher Dodd.

What does that have to do with private fire departments?

we can't have fire resistant buildings without government, because mortgage companies and insurance companies look to the bottom dollar and they could get away with making more money while letting Rome burn, they would.

They exist to make money, not make buildings safer. If a cost benefit analysis showed weakening regulations would increase profit -- there goes your ill-informed reasoning

That is pure and utter horseshit. When I worked construction, it wasn't government inspectors who showed up on the job site to make sure the fireproofing was installed correctly. It was agents from the Insurance company. The idea that a cost benefit analysis shows building less fire safe buildings increases profit ignores the fact of the huge losses the company would suffer if their building caught on fire. The lawsuits from the families of the killed and injured alone would probably be sufficient to put the company out of business.

You obviously don't know jack shit about risk analysis. Your claim is based on total ignorance of business and economics.

You're a typical ignorant blowhard liberal/socialist.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

it's comical to me; they get so butthurt when you call them socialists, and start crying that you don't know what Socialism is; but they wont just come out and say they are Socialists, own it

Well, I'm a socialist comrade.

I'm not a member of the democratic party though, is that a problem?

 

[Deleted member 53821]

I've just read that they have removed the names Jefferson and Jackson from their Democratic Party headquarters. They say it doesn't represent the modern Democratic Party. They will probably replace their names with Marx or Lenin since they represents them more.

 

[BULLDOG]

I've just read that they have removed the names Jefferson and Jackson from their Democratic Party headquarters. They say it doesn't represent the modern Democratic Party. They will probably replace their names with Marx or Lenin since they represents them more.

link?

 

[bedowin62]

it's comical to me; they get so butthurt when you call them socialists, and start crying that you don't know what Socialism is; but they wont just come out and say they are Socialists, own it

Well, I'm a socialist comrade.

I'm not a member of the democratic party though, is that a problem?

you're insignificant to me; so of course there isn't a problem. is THAT a problem?

 

[Ravi]

Ravi

Ok, I've no idea if that is true. What I do know is that strict fire codes have reduced fires overall. Is that socialism, and if so,is it bad?

Yeah, we can't have fire resistant buildings without government because mortgage companies and insurance companies like buildings that ignite and burn like a Ronson lighter.

Socialism is based on the theory that people are too stupid to run their own lives, but their competent to give government dictatorial control over the lives.

were you paying attention when the media exposed Countrywide and others?

"If you had a pulse, we gave you a loan."

If you had a pulse we gave you a loan - Dateline NBC - The Hansen Files with Chris Hansen NBC News

Yeah, the got away with their scandalous lending practices by giving mortgages with below market interest rates to sleazy bags like Chistopher Dodd.

What does that have to do with private fire departments?

we can't have fire resistant buildings without government, because mortgage companies and insurance companies look to the bottom dollar and they could get away with making more money while letting Rome burn, they would.

They exist to make money, not make buildings safer. If a cost benefit analysis showed weakening regulations would increase profit -- there goes your ill-informed reasoning

That is pure and utter horseshit. When I worked construction, it wasn't government inspectors who showed up on the job site to make sure the fireproofing was installed correctly. It was agents from the Insurance company. The idea that a cost benefit analysis shows building less fire safe buildings increases profit ignores the fact of the huge losses the company would suffer if their building caught on fire. The lawsuits from the families of the killed and injured alone would probably be sufficient to put the company out of business.

You obviously don't know jack shit about risk analysis. Your claim is based on total ignorance of business and economics.

You're a typical ignorant blowhard liberal/socialist.

This is not true at all.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

you're insignificant to me; so of course there isn't a problem. is THAT a problem?

Not at all comrade, but your name has been noted. After the revolution you'll be send to a re-education camp to so you'll be able to appeciate the benefits of socialism.

 

[jon_berzerk]

LMAO!!

my alert messages are all about your posts!!

you losers are soooooooo predictable
somebody hurts your over-bloated ego and you cant stop responding!!

--LOL

true

--LOL

 

[NYcarbineer]

Sure. Social Security and fire departments are pure socialism. You against those too?

yeah tell that to our volunteer fire department out here

Your firefighters may be volunteers but much of your fire department is most likely paid for with taxes and owned by the local government.

Why don't you give us examples of what you believe are actual socialist programs.

 

[NYcarbineer]

it's comical to me; they get so butthurt when you call them socialists, and start crying that you don't know what Socialism is; but they wont just come out and say they are Socialists, own it

You've been invited to tell us what you think is Socialism.

Name the socialist programs currently in place in the US.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Sure. Social Security and fire departments are pure socialism. You against those too?

yeah tell that to our volunteer fire department out here

Your firefighters may be volunteers but much of your fire department is most likely paid for with taxes and owned by the local government.

Why don't you give us examples of what you believe are actual socialist programs.

nope **** you

 

[rightwinger]

it's comical to me; they get so butthurt when you call them socialists, and start crying that you don't know what Socialism is; but they wont just come out and say they are Socialists, own it

You've been invited to tell us what you think is Socialism.

Name the socialist programs currently in place in the US.

To a conservative.....

The Government helping capitalists = PATRIOTISM
The Government helping the people= SOCIALISM

 

[NYcarbineer]

Sure. Social Security and fire departments are pure socialism. You against those too?

yeah tell that to our volunteer fire department out here

Your firefighters may be volunteers but much of your fire department is most likely paid for with taxes and owned by the local government.

Why don't you give us examples of what you believe are actual socialist programs.

nope **** you

See? More proof these people don't even know what they are calling socialism

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Socialism Card. The RWnuts' newest substitute for substantive debate.

 

[bedowin62]

it's comical to me; they get so butthurt when you call them socialists, and start crying that you don't know what Socialism is; but they wont just come out and say they are Socialists, own it

You've been invited to tell us what you think is Socialism.

Name the socialist programs currently in place in the US.

you're retarded right?

did you even read my post before you replied with this stupidity?
i said THE LEFT TELLS US WHAT IT IS; tells us what examples of socialism we already have are; they say nearly every institution we have from the police and fire departments to libraries and the armed forces.

so what are you losers crying about when YOU defined what socialism is??

 

[jon_berzerk]

Sure. Social Security and fire departments are pure socialism. You against those too?

yeah tell that to our volunteer fire department out here

Your firefighters may be volunteers but much of your fire department is most likely paid for with taxes and owned by the local government.

Why don't you give us examples of what you believe are actual socialist programs.

nope **** you

See? More proof these people don't even know what they are calling socialism

Sure. Social Security and fire departments are pure socialism. You against those too?

yeah tell that to our volunteer fire department out here

Your firefighters may be volunteers but much of your fire department is most likely paid for with taxes and owned by the local government.

Why don't you give us examples of what you believe are actual socialist programs.

nope **** you

See? More proof these people don't even know what they are calling socialism

it is a false assumption to say fire departments are a sign of socialism

but say for sake of argument we say it is

how come that is the only thing you leftists can point to as a positive

why the **** is that

 

[jon_berzerk]

it's comical to me; they get so butthurt when you call them socialists, and start crying that you don't know what Socialism is; but they wont just come out and say they are Socialists, own it

You've been invited to tell us what you think is Socialism.

Name the socialist programs currently in place in the US.

you're retarded right?

did you even read my post before you replied with this stupidity?
i said THE LEFT TELLS US WHAT IT IS; tells us what examples of socialism we already have are; they say nearly every institution we have from the police and fire departments to libraries and the armed forces.

so what are you losers crying about when YOU defined what socialism is??

you're retarded right?

obviously

 

[jon_berzerk]

it's comical to me; they get so butthurt when you call them socialists, and start crying that you don't know what Socialism is; but they wont just come out and say they are Socialists, own it

You've been invited to tell us what you think is Socialism.

Name the socialist programs currently in place in the US.

you're retarded right?

did you even read my post before you replied with this stupidity?
i said THE LEFT TELLS US WHAT IT IS; tells us what examples of socialism we already have are; they say nearly every institution we have from the police and fire departments to libraries and the armed forces.

so what are you losers crying about when YOU defined what socialism is??

--LOL

 

[bedowin62]

Sure. Social Security and fire departments are pure socialism. You against those too?

the fire dept. is not a socialist organization.......Socialism controls the means of production.......concentrating economic decisions in the hands of the government......totalitarian socialism gathers up every other aspect of life.

The general welfare is part of the Constitution...except they don"t mean just giving money from one person to another.

Sorry to break the news to you but the fire department is a socialist program.

The person who has the fire is using more resources than the person who doesn't. the is why the fire inspector can close your business (faster than anyone else), because you can have a building which causes an undue risk to society.

The production you ignored is the 'service to put out fires', the people who have fires are "stealing" (to use your words) from people that don't have fires as they use the service more.

To be fair (in your world) the firemen should bring a credit card machine to a fire and bill you before they put out the fire.

This would have been tricky during 911.

JUST FOR YOU CARBIN-TARD;
here is one of your LWNJ friends TELLING US what socialism is.
do you agree or disagree?

so AGAIN; why do you losers whine that others dont know what socialism is when we're using the definition YOU PROVIDED?

 

[bedowin62]

When will you admit that some socialist polices are the main stay of civilization??? We wouldn't have civilization without them.

I don't admit it because it's simply not true. There is nothing that government does that the private sector can't do better and cheaper.

How about the military?

Stated in the Constitution already. That is a federal matter...Common Defense.

And private military contractors are better than almost all military units. They can hire the best, and do the job more efficiently.

Another guy looking for a Soapbox. You stand up and say that US Army, Navy and Airforce are lesser than Private Contractors.

Do it in front of some WW2 vets... Good luck.

Do you seriously think private military contractors would have won WW2?

YOU IDIOT; who do you think make up members of those contractors but veterans

get off YOUR soapbox Ted