Will NYT "September Surprise" two days before an debate make Trump go harder against Biden? How Trump might work the debate...

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Trump is so mentally ill that he believes the only way Biden can beat him in a debate is if Biden is on drugs.

Never in the history of America have we had such a disgraceful pre-emptive sore loser.
gee, you'd think that Joe would be chomping at the bit to take that drug test then...wouldn't you?
 

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If I'm Biden and I'm clean...I'm taking that test and then shoving it down Trump's throat when he tries to claim I'm not up to the job!

Biden isn't doing that...I wonder why that is?
 

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The only chance Trump won't win the debate is.... Trump himself.
And, unfortunately, there is an excellent chance he will screw it up. The media will be hanging on by their finger nails... 100's of fact checkers, and truth spinners will be on crack going over every single word he says.
And he will likely make their job easy by saying something awful. Something really stupid.
And therefore despite the fact we will see Biden forgetting questions, losing his train of thought a dozen times or more... misspeaking words... everything. NONE of that will matter if Trump says some bombastic thing.
And he will.
He should just relax, and let Biden fuck up everything... but I do not believe Trump is capable of keeping his mouth shut.
The fact is, Trump should win the election. The people in this nation are fools to elect Biden. The Democratic Party is now the official Progressive Socialist Party. It has been. And all voters of the Democratic Party elect people who adhere to the principles of the Progressive Socialists. In the end at some point millions are going to suffer and die. And you think that is not possible. China and Russia are getting stronger. They have an alliance. The East Asians are getting economically stronger. They are competing with us now. And in a couple of decades surpass us. Our military is superior but the costs of building hardware are enormous now and we can not replace it as fast as the Chinese an in a war. That means we may use nukes after a skirmish starts and our military hardware, particularly Naval vessels are depleted in the first round.
 

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Will this now illegal and conveniently timed tax leak by China First NYT, accurate or not; now motivate Trump to go harder on getting dirt and leaks against his opponents? Knowing how Trump likes to counter punch I imagine it will.

Trump in the debate has a few key angles he can use. If I were him I would have stats on a cheat sheet to refer to about his accomplishments as Biden has to try and hurt Trumps record and is being prepped. Trump just needs to refer to real stats, especially Black unemployment, home ownership, their business ownership, School Choice. Remind voters of how worse they have it in Dem run cities.

1) "I was elected to be the disrupter, America wants change from the Political Class, while you are the quintessential career politician, 47 years last we checked to try and get things done, instead you put Black citizens in prison with the '94 law and Harris went after the same community as AG".

2) China. It's the single issue that only the most indoctrinated or compromised doesn't see. He will remind citizens who China wants to win and why they want them to win. He can also tell Americans, "if I win the election, there will be consequences to China for the Wuhan Virus, regardless of what people like Bloomberg and Hollywood want" etc.

3) He can list the promises he kept even in the face of so much opposition. While reminding Americans, "if you want more caravans to happily come across with the horrible "catch and release" to take jobs under the table and do whatever they want, vote for my opponent".

4) He can go down the 47 years of various issues Biden has voted on that are not compatible with todays society, which have hurt certain communities. Trumps lack of experience in politics helps him here, as he doesn't have decades long history of voting on mistakes, by it Iraq or otherwise

5) He can refer to Biden as the choice of those wishing to wage war, while Trump was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize by two countries.

Ironically, as much as Hollywood and NYT try to harm Trump, it always seems to fire him up and motivate him. Anyone who feels under attack will fight back harder. Trump can fire up his base by making it known where the massive biases lie.
It should be a huge win for Trump, even given the fact that Wallace's intention will be to try to keep Trump on defense and just slightly control the narrative in Biden's favor...careful to appear impartial.

Biden is the underdog going in, but he's gonna try to spin that around and play out the "Trump pandemic" 200,000+ deaths, blah, blah blah....Other than this, the president can hold his own I'm sure, no matter what comes up.

A lot of people will be watching....should be quite entertaining.
I think if he follows an outline I placed above, with, what we all should expect will be direct attacks on any Biden controversies, he can win the debate based on policies and accomplishment.

Bidens will try to focus on the Wuhan Virus, except, it has hurt EVERY nation. Trump can say, "if you take out New York, lead by a Dem Governor and Mayor, we are doing much better".

Bidens weakness is his length in politics. It will provide a treasure trove of poor decisions, scandals/poorly received decisions that haven't been focused on by the media.

You can bet Trump will focus on them, while Biden, with help from Wallace, try and promote the China First agenda by not providing it at all.
The biggest difference is Trump won't have to lie.
The truth is a powerful shield and more powerful sword
when fully displayed.
Funniest post of today. He will lie from start to finish. Provable non-debatable genuine whopper lies. Bet the farm.
Lies? You ought to see the lies that the Biden camp are running non stop down here in Florida! According to them, Trump is going to get rid of Social Security and protections for pre existing conditions two bald faced lies!
It's the old "they're going to push grandma off the cliff" strategy! When you don't have anything to campaign on...simply accuse the other side of wanting things you know aren't true!
Hearings in front of the Supreme Court for killing pre-existing conditions via the ACA begin Nov. 10. So, how
is it a lie Trump is trying to end pre-existing conditions?
 

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