Wife beating & Islam

[CMike]

I know I shouldn't pick on a religion, but this stuff really bothers me.

Here is great information how to beat your wife

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It is on an arabic tv station. At least they don't consider the beatings on wives to be worse than the beatings of animals

Below is another video on an arabic tv station how to beat your wife.

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Below is the interview of a woman who spoke about not being happy about wife beatings in Islam and killing the people who didn't believe like they did.

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Below is another guy proud of how Islam promotes wife beatings.

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[Freeman]

myth!
1- "Only viles beat their wives, only generous handsomer their wives" prophet Mohamed
2- The west beat the record of domestic violence

 

[Diuretic]

Before everyone gets all superior over this pause for a moment. In English common law a woman was the property of her husband. In my state here in Australia the last wife auction - yes, we had wife auctions - was held in the late 19th Century.

The Alex Castles mentioned in this piece was a senior law lecturer at Adelaide University and a brilliant legal mind.

Alex Castles: Back in the 1840s, they followed an old English folklore practice which had relationships to the law, when in fact as reported at the time, 'a smart comely dame of the age of five-and-twenty' was brought to a back room of this pub, here on the Port Road in Adelaide, and she was auctioned by her husband. She was led in, in the traditional English way, with a halter around her neck and she was sold to the highest bidder, and she was sold for 2-pounds, seven-and-sixpence, which was less than the lady was bought for in 'The Mayor of Casterbridge'.

We know that wife auctions were common in England, certainly from the middle ages and probably in some cases, through to the 20th century. And on some occasions it may well have been that the women were willing participants; in this and in other cases, they weren't. We have evidence of wife auctions in early New South Wales, in early Tasmania. We have them in Western Australia and here in South Australia.

At the time there was no such thing as judicial divorce as we now know it. Indeed there was no way at all until the 1850s, the late 1850s, where people living in Australia could obtain a divorce. And so very often it may well have been that following the time-honoured English practice, what they would do if they wanted to break the arrangement, was to publicly make notification of this, and the auction sale was purportedly a means - not legal means - of showing to the community. Sometimes for example, with the first wife auctions in New South Wales and the first in Tasmania that I've been able to find, the people are actually charged - the males were charged with criminal offences, relatively minor offences, after the auction sales.

But here in South Australia, there's no evidence at all that this auction sale in the Land of Promise Hotel, and a later one in Narracoorte later in the century, ever led to any criminal charges being launched.

ABC Radio National - The Law Report Transcript - 23 January 1996

Of course domestic violence should be a crime and unfortunately it is still tolerated - officially - in some countries and it's unofficially tolerated in many others.

But it isn't the province of any single region or religion.

 

[CMike]

And this excuses it how?

 

[Diuretic]

And this excuses it how?

I'm sorry, you must have completely misunderstood my posting.

Maybe you didn't see this line:

Of course domestic violence should be a crime and unfortunately it is still tolerated - officially - in some countries and it's unofficially tolerated in many others.

or this:

But it isn't the province of any single region or religion.

Saudi Arabia and Egypt aren't known for their progressive culture when it comes to social relations. I think "mediaeval" suits them nicely.

In the final part of his book "Islam", Alfred Guillaume discusses the crossroads that the Islamic world found itself in when he was writing his book (1954). This was before Nasser in Egypt and the whole Suez Canal debacle. Guillaume said then that Islam faced a dichotomy between conservatism and progressivism in the religion. He suggested that the West should engage with those countries which could foster a progressive, modernising form of Islam and try to persuade them to assist in reducing the conservative tendency which could prove problematic for the West. Did we? No, we just wanted the oil so we did sod-all about it for years.

Saudi Arabia is controlled by a family of Wahabbist dictators, I'm not at all surprised that they interpret the Qu'ran and any other texts in the manner that suits their dictatorial, despicable tendencies.

Yes, people with a conservative world view will interpret their holy texts so as to support that world view. They will either ignore or distort the parts of the texts which state that women are equal to men and will instead use some form of twisted exegesis to support their culturally defined patriarchial views.

It is not to be excused.

 

[JD_2B]

You can easily find millions of christian men who also think it is acceptable to beat and even kill women..

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CDC Adverse Health Conditions and Health Risk Behaviors Associated with Intimate Partner Violence – United States 2005

• Each year, intimate partner violence (IPV) results in an estimated 1,200 deaths and 2 million injuries among women and nearly 600,000 injuries among men.
• 23.6% of women and 11.5% of men aged 18 years or more have a lifetime history of intimate partner violence victimization.
  • Highest percentage for women is adults aged 45-54 (31.2%)
  • Highest percentage for men is adults aged 25-34 (21.4%)

General Statistics

• On the average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends every day.1
• 92% of women say that reducing domestic violence and sexual assault should be at the top of any formal efforts taken on behalf of women today.2
• 1 out of 3 women around the world has been beaten, coerced into sex or otherwise abused during her lifetime.3
• 1 in 5 female high school students reports being physically and/or sexually abused by a dating partner. Abused girls are significantly more likely to get involved in other risky behaviors. They are 4 to 6 times more likely to get pregnant and 8 to 9 times more likely to have tried to commit suicide.3
• 1 in 3 teens report knowing a friend or peer who has been hit, punched, slapped, choked or physically hurt by his/her partner.4
• As many as 324,000 women each year experience intimate partner violence during their pregnancy. 5
• Violence against women costs companies $72.8 million annually due to lost productivity.6
• Ninety-four percent of the offenders in murder-suicides were male.7
• Seventy-four percent of all murder-suicides involved an intimate partner (spouse, common-law spouse, ex-spouse, or boyfriend/girlfriend). Of these, 96 percent were females killed by their intimate partners.7
• Most murder-suicides with three or more victims involved a “family annihilator” — a subcategory of intimate partner murder-suicide.Family annihilators are murderers who kill not only their wives/girlfriends and children, but often other family members as well,before killing themselves.7
• Seventy-five percent of murder-suicides occurred in the home.7