You are asking the wrong person then.I'm saying the other questions generally gather more reliable, specific, and verifiable information.
The person that you should be asking why the most often is yourself.
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You are asking the wrong person then.I'm saying the other questions generally gather more reliable, specific, and verifiable information.
You are asking the wrong person then.I'm saying the other questions generally gather more reliable, specific, and verifiable information.
The person that you should be asking why the most often is yourself.
The who, what, where, when and how questions are often needed to be answered in order to answer the why question.Not at all.All of which could be lied about as well. What is your point?
How did you go about drawing that conclusion?
Where did you hear that?
Who told you that?
When did you make that decision?
What information did you see to believe that?
All of those questions lead to more or less concrete points in time or sources. "Why" lacks the specificity that leads people to just make shit up.
Absolutely. Which is why I say that why is way down the list, if not dead last, of questions you need to be asking.The who, what, where, when and how questions are often needed to be answered in order to answer the why question.
That's when you're really going to get the rationalizations and excuse making.You are asking the wrong person then.
The person that you should be asking why the most often is yourself.
Absolutely. Which is why I say that why is way down the list, if not dead last, of questions you need to be asking.The who, what, where, when and how questions are often needed to be answered in order to answer the why question.
You really don't get it do you? My beer reference was a joke. I understand that some people lack a sense of humor so I'll give you that one.So beer commercials constitute your life's philosophy?Seems like a pretty basic and simple question, right? So, when did we, as a society, stop asking such a basic question? Think this isn't a problem? Answer this: "when was the last time you asked "why" when considering your position on a given topic?"
More to the point, why did we stop asking why? I suddenly have an tongue-in-check answer... When Bud Dry pulled the ad campaign, "Why ask why? Drink Bud Dry." I know that's not the real answer, but thought is was funny, so I had to add it.
But, seriously, when and why did we stoop asking ourselves and each other "Why?"
I guess Moosehead U. is more popular than I thought.
I don't really understand how this relates to the topic. Maybe you would care to explain.Reagan killed the middle class with his tax cuts for the rich.You tell me. What response do you get most often when you ask folks "why?" Maybe the folks you know and of whom you ask that question are very different from the ones I know, but the most common response to the "why" inquiry is, "I don't know," followed by some sort of speculation.
Now what does that tell me? It tells me that a lot of folks do stuff and have no idea of why they did it; sometimes they have no clue of how they did it. "I don't know how I did it, but I just did." From that, I infer that that there are a lot of folks who are "lemmings," folks just kinda on "autopilot." Folks for whom so long as the ground doesn't rise up to greet their "plane," they're gonna just "go with the flow."
MInd you, these are often the very same folks who are griping about "the death of the middle class," and "exported" jobs, and all sorts of other "stuff" that wouldn't be their reality were they to have taken control of their lives and put some deliberacy and sagacity into their major choices and courses of action. But that's not what they did 10 or 20 years ago, but it's "everyone else's" fault -- liberals, socialists, "the elite," etc., anyone but themselves -- now that they aren't "living the life of Riley." Puh-lease!!! Cry me a river!
GHW then hiked the payroll taxes on them. It was all to save Social Security of course. But the Feds are spending our Social Security as fast as they can collect it.
W then gave even more tax cuts to the rich.
That's "why" the middle class in the USA is now dead. Or mostly dead. Mostly relegated to working poor status.
Why do you say that? Oh, crap, just blew a huge hole in your argument.Absolutely. Which is why I say that why is way down the list, if not dead last, of questions you need to be asking.The who, what, where, when and how questions are often needed to be answered in order to answer the why question.
If you cannot trust yourself then I really do not know what to tell you. I do not have that problem.That's when you're really going to get the rationalizations and excuse making.You are asking the wrong person then.
The person that you should be asking why the most often is yourself.
Why are guns good or bad?
Why are public schools better than private, or the reverse?
Why do people believe what they believe?
Why do you live where you live?
Seems like a pretty basic and simple question, right? So, when did we, as a society, stop asking such a basic question? Think this isn't a problem? Answer this: "when was the last time you asked "why" when considering your position on a given topic?"
More to the point, why did we stop asking why? I suddenly have an tongue-in-check answer... When Bud Dry pulled the ad campaign, "Why ask why? Drink Bud Dry." I know that's not the real answer, but thought is was funny, so I had to add it.
But, seriously, when and why did we stoop asking ourselves and each other "Why?"
Seems like a pretty basic and simple question, right? So, when did we, as a society, stop asking such a basic question? Think this isn't a problem? Answer this: "when was the last time you asked "why" when considering your position on a given topic?"
More to the point, why did we stop asking why? I suddenly have an tongue-in-check answer... When Bud Dry pulled the ad campaign, "Why ask why? Drink Bud Dry." I know that's not the real answer, but thought is was funny, so I had to add it.
But, seriously, when and why did we stoop asking ourselves and each other "Why?"
This thread seems to have diverted off the original intent of the topic. Therefore, I repost this:
I was referring to a broader scope of discussion. Such as:
Etc.., etc.
- Why are guns good or bad?
- Why are public schools better than private, or the reverse?
- Why do people believe what they believe?
- Why are some people liberal, and some conservative?
- Why do you do the work you do?
- Why do you live where you live?
This is the "why" I am referring to when I ask, why we have stopped asking "why". As asserted before, things may not have ever been such that we do ask "why". If that is, indeed, the case, then I ask "why not?".
That is a very thoughtful reply. I must commend you on that. It also happens to, roughly, coincide with my own thoughts on the matter.Seems like a pretty basic and simple question, right? So, when did we, as a society, stop asking such a basic question? Think this isn't a problem? Answer this: "when was the last time you asked "why" when considering your position on a given topic?"
More to the point, why did we stop asking why? I suddenly have an tongue-in-check answer... When Bud Dry pulled the ad campaign, "Why ask why? Drink Bud Dry." I know that's not the real answer, but thought is was funny, so I had to add it.
But, seriously, when and why did we stoop asking ourselves and each other "Why?"
I don't know if it stands to reason, but it may have something to do with people searching more for validation than answers. Then you can add the bonus of being attacked by someone who may disagree with your reasoning, having already decided they are have a better understanding. "Why" kind of gave way to superficial judgment calls that are associated with whomever you may be asking, and if you desire a more in depth answer, it will probably require you ask yourself and qualified resources/references rather than asking anyone you meet on the street.
Your missing my point. The point is not the questions themselves, but the introspection one must do in order to answer the questions in their own mind. Maybe the wording is poor, but it seems to me that most of the arguments for/against things is whether or not they are "good or bad". That is where I was envisioning this thread to go.This thread seems to have diverted off the original intent of the topic. Therefore, I repost this:
I was referring to a broader scope of discussion. Such as:
Etc.., etc.
- Why are guns good or bad?
- Why are public schools better than private, or the reverse?
- Why do people believe what they believe?
- Why are some people liberal, and some conservative?
- Why do you do the work you do?
- Why do you live where you live?
This is the "why" I am referring to when I ask, why we have stopped asking "why". As asserted before, things may not have ever been such that we do ask "why". If that is, indeed, the case, then I ask "why not?".
- Why are guns good or bad?
- Guns, in and of themselves, are neither. That they are neither is why nobody asks this question with the hope of being taken seriously.
- Why are public schools better than private, or the reverse?
- One class of school is not inherently better or worse than the other. Here again, that that one is not, as a class of learning institution, better or worse than the other is why nobody asks this question with the hope of being taken seriously.
- Why do people believe what they believe?
- This question has no context; therefore nobody with any sense is going ask or answer it with an expectation of or aim to provide a lucid and accurate answer. "Why do people believe 'such and such' about XYZ?", is a question folks will answer.
- Why are some people liberal, and some conservative?
- This question one can credibly, coherently and cogently answer.
A large body of political scientists and political psychologists now concur that liberals and conservatives disagree about politics in part because they are different people at the level of personality, psychology, and even traits like physiology and genetics.
There is by now evidence from a variety of laboratories around the world using a variety of methodological techniques leading to the virtually inescapable conclusion that the cognitive-motivational styles of leftists and rightists are quite different. This research consistently finds that conservatism is positively associated with heightened epistemic concerns for order, structure, closure, certainty, consistency, simplicity, and familiarity, as well as existential concerns such as perceptions of danger, sensitivity to threat, and death anxiety.The occasion of this revelation is a paper by John Hibbing of the University of Nebraska and his colleagues, arguing that political conservatives have a "negativity bias," meaning that they are physiologically more attuned to negative (threatening, disgusting) stimuli in their environments. In the process, Hibbing et al marshal a large body of evidence, including their own experiments using eye trackers and other devices to measure the involuntary responses of political partisans to different types of images.
One finding? That conservatives respond much more rapidly to threatening and aversive stimuli (for instance, images of "a very large spider on the face of a frightened person, a dazed individual with a bloody face, and an open wound with maggots in it," as one of their papers put it). In other words, the conservative ideology, and especially one of its major facets—centered on a strong military, tough law enforcement, resistance to immigration, widespread availability of guns—would seem well tailored for an underlying, threat-oriented biology.
The authors go on to speculate that this ultimately reflects an evolutionary imperative. "One possibility," they write, "is that a strong negativity bias was extremely useful in the Pleistocene," when it would have been super-helpful in preventing you from getting killed. (The Pleistocene epoch lasted from roughly 2.5 million years ago until 12,000 years ago.) John Hibbing appeared on the Inquiring Minds podcast earlier this year, and he discussed these ideas in depth.
Granted, there are still many issues yet to be worked out in the science of ideology. Most of the commentaries on the new Hibbing paper are focused on important but not-paradigm-shifting side issues, such as the question of how conservatives can have a higher negativity bias, and yet not have neurotic personalities. (Actually, if anything, the research suggests that liberals may be the more neurotic bunch.) Indeed, conservatives tend to have a high degree of happiness and life satisfaction. But Hibbing and colleagues find no contradiction here. Instead, they paraphrase two other scholarly commentators (Matt Motyl of the University of Virginia and Ravi Iyer of the University of Southern California), who note that "successfully monitoring and attending negative features of the environment, as conservatives tend to do, may be just the sort of tractable task…that is more likely to lead to a fulfilling and happy life than is a constant search for new experience after new experience."
All of this matters, of course, because we still operate in politics and in media as if minds can be changed by the best honed arguments, the most compelling facts. And yet if our political opponents are simply perceiving the world differently, that idea starts to crumble. Out of the rubble just might arise a better way of acting in politics that leads to less dysfunction and less gridlock…thanks to science.
- Why do you do the work you do?
- This question isn't asked because it lacks enough context to get anything meaningful from the answer. It's not answered much because it lacks the context a potential responder needs in order to know how to answer it. Where where? The firm, the town, the field, the country, indoors, outdoors, something else?
- Why do you live where you live?
- Here again, both the merit of the question, as well as any potential answers, is, as with the immediately preceding question, made fleeting at best due to the lack of context. That's why it's not asked or answered much if at all.
Your missing my point. The point is not the questions themselves, but the introspection one must do in order to answer the questions in their own mind. Maybe the wording is poor, but it seems to me that most of the arguments for/against things is whether or not they are "good or bad". That is where I was envisioning this thread to go.This thread seems to have diverted off the original intent of the topic. Therefore, I repost this:
I was referring to a broader scope of discussion. Such as:
Etc.., etc.
- Why are guns good or bad?
- Why are public schools better than private, or the reverse?
- Why do people believe what they believe?
- Why are some people liberal, and some conservative?
- Why do you do the work you do?
- Why do you live where you live?
This is the "why" I am referring to when I ask, why we have stopped asking "why". As asserted before, things may not have ever been such that we do ask "why". If that is, indeed, the case, then I ask "why not?".
- Why are guns good or bad?
- Guns, in and of themselves, are neither. That they are neither is why nobody asks this question with the hope of being taken seriously.
- Why are public schools better than private, or the reverse?
- One class of school is not inherently better or worse than the other. Here again, that that one is not, as a class of learning institution, better or worse than the other is why nobody asks this question with the hope of being taken seriously.
- Why do people believe what they believe?
- This question has no context; therefore nobody with any sense is going ask or answer it with an expectation of or aim to provide a lucid and accurate answer. "Why do people believe 'such and such' about XYZ?", is a question folks will answer.
- Why are some people liberal, and some conservative?
- This question one can credibly, coherently and cogently answer.
A large body of political scientists and political psychologists now concur that liberals and conservatives disagree about politics in part because they are different people at the level of personality, psychology, and even traits like physiology and genetics.
There is by now evidence from a variety of laboratories around the world using a variety of methodological techniques leading to the virtually inescapable conclusion that the cognitive-motivational styles of leftists and rightists are quite different. This research consistently finds that conservatism is positively associated with heightened epistemic concerns for order, structure, closure, certainty, consistency, simplicity, and familiarity, as well as existential concerns such as perceptions of danger, sensitivity to threat, and death anxiety.The occasion of this revelation is a paper by John Hibbing of the University of Nebraska and his colleagues, arguing that political conservatives have a "negativity bias," meaning that they are physiologically more attuned to negative (threatening, disgusting) stimuli in their environments. In the process, Hibbing et al marshal a large body of evidence, including their own experiments using eye trackers and other devices to measure the involuntary responses of political partisans to different types of images.
One finding? That conservatives respond much more rapidly to threatening and aversive stimuli (for instance, images of "a very large spider on the face of a frightened person, a dazed individual with a bloody face, and an open wound with maggots in it," as one of their papers put it). In other words, the conservative ideology, and especially one of its major facets—centered on a strong military, tough law enforcement, resistance to immigration, widespread availability of guns—would seem well tailored for an underlying, threat-oriented biology.
The authors go on to speculate that this ultimately reflects an evolutionary imperative. "One possibility," they write, "is that a strong negativity bias was extremely useful in the Pleistocene," when it would have been super-helpful in preventing you from getting killed. (The Pleistocene epoch lasted from roughly 2.5 million years ago until 12,000 years ago.) John Hibbing appeared on the Inquiring Minds podcast earlier this year, and he discussed these ideas in depth.
Granted, there are still many issues yet to be worked out in the science of ideology. Most of the commentaries on the new Hibbing paper are focused on important but not-paradigm-shifting side issues, such as the question of how conservatives can have a higher negativity bias, and yet not have neurotic personalities. (Actually, if anything, the research suggests that liberals may be the more neurotic bunch.) Indeed, conservatives tend to have a high degree of happiness and life satisfaction. But Hibbing and colleagues find no contradiction here. Instead, they paraphrase two other scholarly commentators (Matt Motyl of the University of Virginia and Ravi Iyer of the University of Southern California), who note that "successfully monitoring and attending negative features of the environment, as conservatives tend to do, may be just the sort of tractable task…that is more likely to lead to a fulfilling and happy life than is a constant search for new experience after new experience."
All of this matters, of course, because we still operate in politics and in media as if minds can be changed by the best honed arguments, the most compelling facts. And yet if our political opponents are simply perceiving the world differently, that idea starts to crumble. Out of the rubble just might arise a better way of acting in politics that leads to less dysfunction and less gridlock…thanks to science.
- Why do you do the work you do?
- This question isn't asked because it lacks enough context to get anything meaningful from the answer. It's not answered much because it lacks the context a potential responder needs in order to know how to answer it. Where where? The firm, the town, the field, the country, indoors, outdoors, something else?
- Why do you live where you live?
- Here again, both the merit of the question, as well as any potential answers, is, as with the immediately preceding question, made fleeting at best due to the lack of context. That's why it's not asked or answered much if at all.
That is exactly what I am referring to. You may be quite correct that this is not new. So then the question I ask myself is "Why?" What about human natures makes this so prevalent. This is what I am referring to.Maybe you are referring to the penchant folks have for oversimplified answers, the misguided predilection some folks have for presuming that complex matters are indeed simple and thereby making themselves content with platitudinous and/or puerile responses to the questions they ask?