Why Would Holocaust Deniers Lie.

[freemind]

Who would have reason to lie about the holocaust and why. If the holocaust happened as is generally believed, why would there be those who would deny it. Let's list the reasons.
1. To make money. There are people who write books or give lectures to make money by supporting all sorts of conspiracy theories. I imagine holocaust denial would fit right in.
2. To cover the guilt of having killed so many "innocent" people. Which is no reason to me. There are people out there who would say that even if 6 million Jews were killed, it wasn't nearly enough.
3. To help sell the idea of White patriotism not being so bad by saying White patriots didn't kill as many Jews as is generally believed.
4. Those who don't like the Jews would likely be interested in slandering them by saying that the Jews mostly made up the whole holocaust thing.

Now let's say that the holocaust was largely a fabrication. Why would people lie by saying that 6 million Jews were killed. Let's list those reasons.
1. For the victors to demonize their enemies is a tactic that is probably as old as mankind. A holocaust story would help do that.
2. In 1933, a London newspaper headline read, "Judea declares war on Germany." And in war it is said that truth is the first casuality. The Jews controlled the movie industry. They may have also had a major influence in the raido industry. This gave them a huge "soapbox" from which to spread their lies.
3. Jews probably sought revenge against the Germans for having dared to deport or force out the "chosen of GOD!"
4. Reparations were made by Germany for the whole holocaust thing. As far as I know, they're still being made. If the holocaust was shown to largely have been a fraud, those reparations would dry up. Jews may even have to pay most of them back.
5. The U.S. might lessen its funding of Israel. A country that it already gave nuclear weapons to.
6. By playing the "pity" card, Jews can get away with far more.
7. For many Christians, a good way to prove the power of their imaginary god is to support the Jewish people.
8. If the holocaust was ever disproved, Jews might again be persecuted.
9. National Socialism was economically sucessful. Capitalism wasn't and still isn't. To support "The American Way," it would be very helpful to discredit National Socialism in any way possible.
10. Stalin was the real monster. The holocaust and other things could be supported so the U.S. doesn't look so bad for having supported Stalin.
11. If the holocaust was shown to largely be a fraud, most people would feel extrmemly suckered. They would lose even more faith in the U.S. government.
12. German National Socialism wasn't into the whole multiethnic society thing that is constantly being shoved down Americans throats. So to support their multiethnic society, they have to discredit the White patriot national socialist party. Etc.

Keep in mind that history is written by the victors. Consider the power the U.S. government and the jews have to see that their version of history prevails. Compare to that to the power of the few who seek the truth for the truth's sake. Holocaust deniers vs holocaust promoters. Holocaust promoters have much more reason to lie.

 

[namvet]

there used to be a ton of denier's on here but they took a hike when they couldn't sell their phony baloney BS. I suspected most were Muslims. the story goes they hate Jews because the Holocaust got more world attention then them. Ike suspected this would happen so that's why it was well documented with photos and video at wars end.

link

he was so disgusted with this he refused to show up at the surrender. sending staffers instead

 

[Asclepias]

Who would have reason to lie about the holocaust and why. If the holocaust happened as is generally believed, why would there be those who would deny it. Let's list the reasons.
1. To make money. There are people who write books or give lectures to make money by supporting all sorts of conspiracy theories. I imagine holocaust denial would fit right in.
2. To cover the guilt of having killed so many "innocent" people. Which is no reason to me. There are people out there who would say that even if 6 million Jews were killed, it wasn't nearly enough.
3. To help sell the idea of White patriotism not being so bad by saying White patriots didn't kill as many Jews as is generally believed.
4. Those who don't like the Jews would likely be interested in slandering them by saying that the Jews mostly made up the whole holocaust thing.

Now let's say that the holocaust was largely a fabrication. Why would people lie by saying that 6 million Jews were killed. Let's list those reasons.
1. For the victors to demonize their enemies is a tactic that is probably as old as mankind. A holocaust story would help do that.
2. In 1933, a London newspaper headline read, "Judea declares war on Germany." And in war it is said that truth is the first casuality. The Jews controlled the movie industry. They may have also had a major influence in the raido industry. This gave them a huge "soapbox" from which to spread their lies.
3. Jews probably sought revenge against the Germans for having dared to deport or force out the "chosen of GOD!"
4. Reparations were made by Germany for the whole holocaust thing. As far as I know, they're still being made. If the holocaust was shown to largely have been a fraud, those reparations would dry up. Jews may even have to pay most of them back.
5. The U.S. might lessen its funding of Israel. A country that it already gave nuclear weapons to.
6. By playing the "pity" card, Jews can get away with far more.
7. For many Christians, a good way to prove the power of their imaginary god is to support the Jewish people.
8. If the holocaust was ever disproved, Jews might again be persecuted.
9. National Socialism was economically sucessful. Capitalism wasn't and still isn't. To support "The American Way," it would be very helpful to discredit National Socialism in any way possible.
10. Stalin was the real monster. The holocaust and other things could be supported so the U.S. doesn't look so bad for having supported Stalin.
11. If the holocaust was shown to largely be a fraud, most people would feel extrmemly suckered. They would lose even more faith in the U.S. government.
12. German National Socialism wasn't into the whole multiethnic society thing that is constantly being shoved down Americans throats. So to support their multiethnic society, they have to discredit the White patriot national socialist party. Etc.

Keep in mind that history is written by the victors. Consider the power the U.S. government and the jews have to see that their version of history prevails. Compare to that to the power of the few who seek the truth for the truth's sake. Holocaust deniers vs holocaust promoters. Holocaust promoters have much more reason to lie.

You left out stupidity. Anyone that denies the holocaust never happened has some screws loose.

 

[Penelope]

Because 6 mil is a magic no. quoted before 1922 when in Russia. No doubt a few million jews probably died in WWii, but they say over 65 million people died. Its time to quit making it about Jews, and frankly I do not believe there were large gas chambers. The wealthy Jews in Germany got out fine, they cared less about the Polish Jews, who by they way had their own partisan groups fighting . To make WWII about Jews is to decreased the value of life of non jews. Also Judea declared war on Germany when Hitler got elected.

 

[namvet]

BTY its against German law to deny it in public. a big fine and 5 years in the gray bar motel

 

[Penelope]

BTY its against German law to deny it in public. a big fine and 5 years in the gray bar motel

Imagine that, can't debate the death of Jews in WWII , just non debatable. Thank Goodness I live in the USA and everything is debatable. When they tell you just believe, makes you wonder why. It has been so programed into people, most do not question it. Who in the heck cares, how many Germans died.

 

[Vastator]

Who would have reason to lie about the holocaust and why. If the holocaust happened as is generally believed, why would there be those who would deny it. Let's list the reasons.
1. To make money. There are people who write books or give lectures to make money by supporting all sorts of conspiracy theories. I imagine holocaust denial would fit right in.
2. To cover the guilt of having killed so many "innocent" people. Which is no reason to me. There are people out there who would say that even if 6 million Jews were killed, it wasn't nearly enough.
3. To help sell the idea of White patriotism not being so bad by saying White patriots didn't kill as many Jews as is generally believed.
4. Those who don't like the Jews would likely be interested in slandering them by saying that the Jews mostly made up the whole holocaust thing.

Now let's say that the holocaust was largely a fabrication. Why would people lie by saying that 6 million Jews were killed. Let's list those reasons.
1. For the victors to demonize their enemies is a tactic that is probably as old as mankind. A holocaust story would help do that.
2. In 1933, a London newspaper headline read, "Judea declares war on Germany." And in war it is said that truth is the first casuality. The Jews controlled the movie industry. They may have also had a major influence in the raido industry. This gave them a huge "soapbox" from which to spread their lies.
3. Jews probably sought revenge against the Germans for having dared to deport or force out the "chosen of GOD!"
4. Reparations were made by Germany for the whole holocaust thing. As far as I know, they're still being made. If the holocaust was shown to largely have been a fraud, those reparations would dry up. Jews may even have to pay most of them back.
5. The U.S. might lessen its funding of Israel. A country that it already gave nuclear weapons to.
6. By playing the "pity" card, Jews can get away with far more.
7. For many Christians, a good way to prove the power of their imaginary god is to support the Jewish people.
8. If the holocaust was ever disproved, Jews might again be persecuted.
9. National Socialism was economically sucessful. Capitalism wasn't and still isn't. To support "The American Way," it would be very helpful to discredit National Socialism in any way possible.
10. Stalin was the real monster. The holocaust and other things could be supported so the U.S. doesn't look so bad for having supported Stalin.
11. If the holocaust was shown to largely be a fraud, most people would feel extrmemly suckered. They would lose even more faith in the U.S. government.
12. German National Socialism wasn't into the whole multiethnic society thing that is constantly being shoved down Americans throats. So to support their multiethnic society, they have to discredit the White patriot national socialist party. Etc.

Keep in mind that history is written by the victors. Consider the power the U.S. government and the jews have to see that their version of history prevails. Compare to that to the power of the few who seek the truth for the truth's sake. Holocaust deniers vs holocaust promoters. Holocaust promoters have much more reason to lie.

I stopped reading a number 5. Such a claim demands a link! Care to provide?

 

[freemind]

there used to be a ton of denier's on here but they took a hike when they couldn't sell their phony baloney BS. I suspected most were Muslims. the story goes they hate Jews because the Holocaust got more world attention then them. Ike suspected this would happen so that's why it was well documented with photos and video at wars end.

link

he was so disgusted with this he refused to show up at the surrender. sending staffers instead

namvet,
You are talking around the issue. The issue here is the reasons for those who say the holocaust was largely a fraud vs the reasons people would say the holocaust was as is generally believed. If you want to talk about the reality or unreality of the holocaust, I suggest you visit my thread "The holocaust. What a lie!" Next, I have nothing to do with islam. I am a White person.

Next, fuck Eisenhower. There is speculation that he was part Jewish. Also, after the war, American forces held many German ex-soldiers as prisoners of ex-war. I think he justified this by giving them the bullshit designation of unarmed enemy combatants. I don't remember if it was just the Americans in Europe or if it included prisoners held by the French and English as well. But while being held prosoner, 1.5 to 1.7 of them were basically murdered. Probably mostly because dead men tell no tales.

Patton didn't go along with this treatment. Which is probably why he was assassinated. For the Jews held in Jewish internment camps, there was a reason up to 600,000 (not 6 million) died. Which was a combination of food shortages from Germany getting the shit bombed out of it and diseases such as typhus. For the American forces after the war, they didn't lack for anything. Such as food or medecine. If you want to read more about this, I suggest that you enter into your browser, "Eisenhower's Holocaust" and read it. You should find some of the things he said to be interesting.

As to any possible reason that Eisenhower wouldn't have wanted to show up in any photos of the condition of the internment camps at the end of the war, did you ever stop to consider that the reason was because many of the pictures were staged?

 

[freemind]

Who would have reason to lie about the holocaust and why. If the holocaust happened as is generally believed, why would there be those who would deny it. Let's list the reasons.
1. To make money. There are people who write books or give lectures to make money by supporting all sorts of conspiracy theories. I imagine holocaust denial would fit right in.
2. To cover the guilt of having killed so many "innocent" people. Which is no reason to me. There are people out there who would say that even if 6 million Jews were killed, it wasn't nearly enough.
3. To help sell the idea of White patriotism not being so bad by saying White patriots didn't kill as many Jews as is generally believed.
4. Those who don't like the Jews would likely be interested in slandering them by saying that the Jews mostly made up the whole holocaust thing.

Now let's say that the holocaust was largely a fabrication. Why would people lie by saying that 6 million Jews were killed. Let's list those reasons.
1. For the victors to demonize their enemies is a tactic that is probably as old as mankind. A holocaust story would help do that.
2. In 1933, a London newspaper headline read, "Judea declares war on Germany." And in war it is said that truth is the first casuality. The Jews controlled the movie industry. They may have also had a major influence in the raido industry. This gave them a huge "soapbox" from which to spread their lies.
3. Jews probably sought revenge against the Germans for having dared to deport or force out the "chosen of GOD!"
4. Reparations were made by Germany for the whole holocaust thing. As far as I know, they're still being made. If the holocaust was shown to largely have been a fraud, those reparations would dry up. Jews may even have to pay most of them back.
5. The U.S. might lessen its funding of Israel. A country that it already gave nuclear weapons to.
6. By playing the "pity" card, Jews can get away with far more.
7. For many Christians, a good way to prove the power of their imaginary god is to support the Jewish people.
8. If the holocaust was ever disproved, Jews might again be persecuted.
9. National Socialism was economically sucessful. Capitalism wasn't and still isn't. To support "The American Way," it would be very helpful to discredit National Socialism in any way possible.
10. Stalin was the real monster. The holocaust and other things could be supported so the U.S. doesn't look so bad for having supported Stalin.
11. If the holocaust was shown to largely be a fraud, most people would feel extrmemly suckered. They would lose even more faith in the U.S. government.
12. German National Socialism wasn't into the whole multiethnic society thing that is constantly being shoved down Americans throats. So to support their multiethnic society, they have to discredit the White patriot national socialist party. Etc.

Keep in mind that history is written by the victors. Consider the power the U.S. government and the jews have to see that their version of history prevails. Compare to that to the power of the few who seek the truth for the truth's sake. Holocaust deniers vs holocaust promoters. Holocaust promoters have much more reason to lie.

You left out stupidity. Anyone that denies the holocaust never happened has some screws loose.

Anclepias,
I am willing to accept that up to 600,000 (not 6 million) Jews died. If you want to talk about the reality or unreality of the holocaust, flle free to do so in my thread "The holocaust. What a lie!"

 

[namvet]

there used to be a ton of denier's on here but they took a hike when they couldn't sell their phony baloney BS. I suspected most were Muslims. the story goes they hate Jews because the Holocaust got more world attention then them. Ike suspected this would happen so that's why it was well documented with photos and video at wars end.

link

he was so disgusted with this he refused to show up at the surrender. sending staffers instead

namvet,
You are talking around the issue. The issue here is the reasons for those who say the holocaust was largely a fraud vs the reasons people would say the holocaust was as is generally believed. If you want to talk about the reality or unreality of the holocaust, I suggest you visit my thread "The holocaust. What a lie!" Next, I have nothing to do with islam. I am a White person.

Next, fuck Eisenhower. There is speculation that he was part Jewish. Also, after the war, American forces held many German ex-soldiers as prisoners of ex-war. I think he justified this by giving them the bullshit designation of unarmed enemy combatants. I don't remember if it was just the Americans in Europe or if it included prisoners held by the French and English as well. But while being held prosoner, 1.5 to 1.7 of them were basically murdered. Probably mostly because dead men tell no tales.

Patton didn't go along with this treatment. Which is probably why he was assassinated. For the Jews held in Jewish internment camps, there was a reason up to 600,000 (not 6 million) died. Which was a combination of food shortages from Germany getting the shit bombed out of it and diseases such as typhus. For the American forces after the war, they didn't lack for anything. Such as food or medecine. If you want to read more about this, I suggest that you enter into your browser, "Eisenhower's Holocaust" and read it. You should find some of the things he said to be interesting.

As to any possible reason that Eisenhower wouldn't have wanted to show up in any photos of the condition of the internment camps at the end of the war, did you ever stop to consider that the reason was because many of the pictures were staged?

so. your a denier just admit it

 

[freemind]

Because 6 mil is a magic no. quoted before 1922 when in Russia. No doubt a few million jews probably died in WWii, but they say over 65 million people died. Its time to quit making it about Jews, and frankly I do not believe there were large gas chambers. The wealthy Jews in Germany got out fine, they cared less about the Polish Jews, who by they way had their own partisan groups fighting . To make WWII about Jews is to decreased the value of life of non jews. Also Judea declared war on Germany when Hitler got elected.

Penlope,
I'm glad somebody around here has some brains.

 

[freemind]

BTY its against German law to deny it in public. a big fine and 5 years in the gray bar motel

namvet,
In Germany and some other countries, it is illegal to question the accepted version of the holocaust. It is the only instance where a verson of history has to be protected by law. That is because if there was much truth to it, they wouldn't need a law to protect it.

 

[namvet]

the 6 mil figure was an est of the number of Jews on the continent when the war started. the actual number was much higher considering all the new camps founds.

 

[freemind]

Who would have reason to lie about the holocaust and why. If the holocaust happened as is generally believed, why would there be those who would deny it. Let's list the reasons.
1. To make money. There are people who write books or give lectures to make money by supporting all sorts of conspiracy theories. I imagine holocaust denial would fit right in.
2. To cover the guilt of having killed so many "innocent" people. Which is no reason to me. There are people out there who would say that even if 6 million Jews were killed, it wasn't nearly enough.
3. To help sell the idea of White patriotism not being so bad by saying White patriots didn't kill as many Jews as is generally believed.
4. Those who don't like the Jews would likely be interested in slandering them by saying that the Jews mostly made up the whole holocaust thing.

Now let's say that the holocaust was largely a fabrication. Why would people lie by saying that 6 million Jews were killed. Let's list those reasons.
1. For the victors to demonize their enemies is a tactic that is probably as old as mankind. A holocaust story would help do that.
2. In 1933, a London newspaper headline read, "Judea declares war on Germany." And in war it is said that truth is the first casuality. The Jews controlled the movie industry. They may have also had a major influence in the raido industry. This gave them a huge "soapbox" from which to spread their lies.
3. Jews probably sought revenge against the Germans for having dared to deport or force out the "chosen of GOD!"
4. Reparations were made by Germany for the whole holocaust thing. As far as I know, they're still being made. If the holocaust was shown to largely have been a fraud, those reparations would dry up. Jews may even have to pay most of them back.
5. The U.S. might lessen its funding of Israel. A country that it already gave nuclear weapons to.
6. By playing the "pity" card, Jews can get away with far more.
7. For many Christians, a good way to prove the power of their imaginary god is to support the Jewish people.
8. If the holocaust was ever disproved, Jews might again be persecuted.
9. National Socialism was economically sucessful. Capitalism wasn't and still isn't. To support "The American Way," it would be very helpful to discredit National Socialism in any way possible.
10. Stalin was the real monster. The holocaust and other things could be supported so the U.S. doesn't look so bad for having supported Stalin.
11. If the holocaust was shown to largely be a fraud, most people would feel extrmemly suckered. They would lose even more faith in the U.S. government.
12. German National Socialism wasn't into the whole multiethnic society thing that is constantly being shoved down Americans throats. So to support their multiethnic society, they have to discredit the White patriot national socialist party. Etc.

Keep in mind that history is written by the victors. Consider the power the U.S. government and the jews have to see that their version of history prevails. Compare to that to the power of the few who seek the truth for the truth's sake. Holocaust deniers vs holocaust promoters. Holocaust promoters have much more reason to lie.

I stopped reading a number 5. Such a claim demands a link! Care to provide?

Vastator,
That Israel has nuclear weapons is sort of an open secret. Everybody knows they do. Why? Because over the years, the U.S. has had over 600 pounds of fissionable material "go missing." Would you care to guess where it went?

 

[Vastator]

I was under the impression that Israel got their nukes from South Africa after the nigs took over... South Africa didn't want to be the first nation to give the lowest savages such awesome power. Again that's just the impression I've gotten over the years from more than a dozen people who claim to be " in the know". Most of these folks don't know each other. But they definitely were in positions to know...

 

[freemind]

the 6 mil figure was an est of the number of Jews on the continent when the war started. the actual number was much higher considering all the new camps founds.

namvet,
So you force me to do it here. Fine. I will include a picture of a couple of plaques. The old one on the left used to be at the holocaust memorial museum in Auschwitz. The one on the right appears there now. The old one says that 4 million Jews died at Auschwitz. Though it is a little hard to read, the new one says that only 1.5 million died there. And even that is probably an overestimate. Because there is probably a limit as to how far you can push your luck with the U.S. victors and its Jewish masters.

Now if the original estimates of the deaths at Auschwitz were so overblown, you can bet your ass that the original death estimates at all of the other Jewish internment camps were overblown as well. If you want to continue this debate, please do so in my thread "The holocaust. What a lie!"

 

[freemind]

I was under the impression that Israel got their nukes from South Africa after the nigs took over... South Africa didn't want to be the first nation to give the lowest savages such awesome power. Again that's just the impression I've gotten over the years from more than a dozen people who claim to be " in the know". Most of these folks don't know each other. But they definitely were in positions to know...

Vastator,
From what I remember hearing, Israel had nukes a long time before South Africa ended apartheid.

 

[Vastator]

the 6 mil figure was an est of the number of Jews on the continent when the war started. the actual number was much higher considering all the new camps founds.

namvet,
So you force me to do it here. Fine. I will include a picture of a couple of plaques. The old one on the left used to be at the holocaust memorial museum in Auschwitz. The one on the right appears there now. The old one says that 4 million Jews died at Auschwitz. Though it is a little hard to read, the new one says that only 1.5 million died there. And even that is probably an overestimate. Because there is probably a limit as to how far you can push your luck with the U.S. victors and its Jewish masters.

Now if the original estimates of the deaths at Auschwitz were so overblown, you can bet your ass that the original death estimates at all of the other Jewish internment camps were overblown as well. If you want to continue this debate, please do so in my thread "The holocaust. What a lie!"

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Wow man! I ain't sayin' your wrong. But if your thread didn't get any traffic... You just gotta let it go. Say it here.

 

[freemind]

the 6 mil figure was an est of the number of Jews on the continent when the war started. the actual number was much higher considering all the new camps founds.

namvet,
So you force me to do it here. Fine. I will include a picture of a couple of plaques. The old one on the left used to be at the holocaust memorial museum in Auschwitz. The one on the right appears there now. The old one says that 4 million Jews died at Auschwitz. Though it is a little hard to read, the new one says that only 1.5 million died there. And even that is probably an overestimate. Because there is probably a limit as to how far you can push your luck with the U.S. victors and its Jewish masters.

Now if the original estimates of the deaths at Auschwitz were so overblown, you can bet your ass that the original death estimates at all of the other Jewish internment camps were overblown as well. If you want to continue this debate, please do so in my thread "The holocaust. What a lie!"

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Wow man! I ain't sayin' your wrong. But if your thread didn't get any traffic... You just gotta let it go. Say it here.

Vastators,
What would you like me to tell you. How about the fact that Jews weren't gassed.

 

[namvet]

im outta here. fuck this lyin' ass freemind, deadmind, nomind, malignantmind asswipe