Why would anyone continue to claim the iraqi war was a failure?

[Uncensored2008]

jake has nothing to offer but anger
I have him on ignore
u might want to do the same

Sometimes a Chihuahua that is so mad that it's pissing all over is the funniest thing to watch.

Little Fascist Jake is like that!

Ignore? It's fools like Jake that have me coming here!

 

[LibocalypseNow]

You are the right extremist fascist, Uncensored, and we will keep pointing you out every time your run your mouth stupidly.

I think you got so excited that you pissed yourself, moron.

jake has nothing to offer but anger
I have him on ignore
u might want to do the same

He's ok but he's just a misguided Socialist/Progressive who wanted Gaddafi dead yet is still so upset that the Neocons wanted Saddam Hussein dead. He's just confused. He still hasn't realized that Socialists/Progressives and Neocons really aren't all that different. I'm sure he's a good person though. Just a confused person. That's all.

 

[francoHFW]

Stupidest war ever. End of story.

 

[JRK]

I think you got so excited that you pissed yourself, moron.

jake has nothing to offer but anger
I have him on ignore
u might want to do the same

He's ok but he's just a misguided Socialist/Progressive who wanted Gaddafi dead yet is still so upset that the Neocons wanted Saddam Hussein dead. He's just confused. He still hasn't realized that Socialists/Progressives and Neocons really aren't all that different. I'm sure he's a good person though. Just a confused person. That's all.

There is some truth to your feelings. I wish GB had not had 9-11
his historic tax cuts with congress never had a chance to really do there best

No teacher left behind
medicare add ons
these were un funded with 9-11 doing its harm

without the wars we have a surplus by 2007
probably before then

But you are correct, until it came to Obama. he is in a leauge of his own

 

[NoNukes]

It is difficult to believe that this thread is still functioning. What was the result of the War in Iraq? We established a fragile, barely functioning pseudo-democracy in alliance with Iran and Syria, America's fiercest foes in the region. Yes, Saddam was an evil man, but America put him there. Where were the voiced of the right wing when he was committing these atrocities? Were you speaking out against the results of America's actions? No, it was 'My country right or wrong'. The only stance that those of you on the right take is to oppose whatever Liberals believe in, which is no stance at all.

 

[JRK]

It is difficult to believe that this thread is still functioning. What was the result of the War in Iraq? We established a fragile, barely functioning pseudo-democracy in alliance with Iran and Syria, America's fiercest foes in the region. Yes, Saddam was an evil man, but America put him there. Where were the voiced of the right wing when he was committing these atrocities? Were you speaking out against the results of America's actions? No, it was 'My country right or wrong'. The only stance that those of you on the right take is to oppose whatever Liberals believe in, which is no stance at all.

Fragile? 62% of the poulation voted in the last election
It was Iraq under GWB pushing the issue that agreed we should leave in 2012, we are

I dont care what the spin is in who oput him there, the reason this thread is still going is the truth is hitting these peoples eyes for the first time
some will not accept it, but most i am sure are amazed

 

[NoNukes]

It is difficult to believe that this thread is still functioning. What was the result of the War in Iraq? We established a fragile, barely functioning pseudo-democracy in alliance with Iran and Syria, America's fiercest foes in the region. Yes, Saddam was an evil man, but America put him there. Where were the voiced of the right wing when he was committing these atrocities? Were you speaking out against the results of America's actions? No, it was 'My country right or wrong'. The only stance that those of you on the right take is to oppose whatever Liberals believe in, which is no stance at all.

Fragile? 62% of the poulation voted in the last election
It was Iraq under GWB pushing the issue that agreed we should leave in 2012, we are

I dont care what the spin is in who oput him there, the reason this thread is still going is the truth is hitting these peoples eyes for the first time
some will not accept it, but most i am sure are amazed

Amazed at what?

 

[JakeStarkey]

It is difficult to believe that this thread is still functioning. What was the result of the War in Iraq? We established a fragile, barely functioning pseudo-democracy in alliance with Iran and Syria, America's fiercest foes in the region. Yes, Saddam was an evil man, but America put him there. Where were the voiced of the right wing when he was committing these atrocities? Were you speaking out against the results of America's actions? No, it was 'My country right or wrong'. The only stance that those of you on the right take is to oppose whatever Liberals believe in, which is no stance at all.

Fragile? 62% of the poulation voted in the last election
It was Iraq under GWB pushing the issue that agreed we should leave in 2012, we are

I dont care what the spin is in who oput him there, the reason this thread is still going is the truth is hitting these peoples eyes for the first time
some will not accept it, but most i am sure are amazed

Most are amazed at stupid neo-con nonsense you spew. The difference in the neo-con actions of Bush and Obama is that the latter did it more cleverly and legally, Bush did not and we are reaping the whirlwind. An Iraq allied with Iran is not the desired end goal but will be what we get.

 

[Dr.Drock]

jake has nothing to offer but anger
I have him on ignore
u might want to do the same

He's ok but he's just a misguided Socialist/Progressive who wanted Gaddafi dead yet is still so upset that the Neocons wanted Saddam Hussein dead. He's just confused. He still hasn't realized that Socialists/Progressives and Neocons really aren't all that different. I'm sure he's a good person though. Just a confused person. That's all.

There is some truth to your feelings. I wish GB had not had 9-11
his historic tax cuts with congress never had a chance to really do there best

No teacher left behind
medicare add ons
these were un funded with 9-11 doing its harm

without the wars we have a surplus by 2007
probably before then

But you are correct, until it came to Obama. he is in a leauge of his own

They should've been unfunded and never put into place, no conservative would ever dream of supporting No Child Left Behind or medicare add ons.

 

[JRK]

He's ok but he's just a misguided Socialist/Progressive who wanted Gaddafi dead yet is still so upset that the Neocons wanted Saddam Hussein dead. He's just confused. He still hasn't realized that Socialists/Progressives and Neocons really aren't all that different. I'm sure he's a good person though. Just a confused person. That's all.

There is some truth to your feelings. I wish GB had not had 9-11
his historic tax cuts with congress never had a chance to really do there best

No teacher left behind
medicare add ons
these were un funded with 9-11 doing its harm

without the wars we have a surplus by 2007
probably before then

But you are correct, until it came to Obama. he is in a leauge of his own

They should've been unfunded and never put into place, no conservative would ever dream of supporting No Child Left Behind or medicare add ons.

Not sure I dis agree with you and as far as my support no more than I know I am not sure I understand it enough to support it
The medicare prescription should have had enough of an off set in the amount we are taxed to off set it.
No child left behind I could not agree with any more with you. Educating our kids should be just that

 

[freedombecki]

Why would anyone continue to claim the iraqi war was a failure?

The medicare prescription should have had enough of an off set in the amount we are taxed to off set it.
No child left behind I could not agree with any more with you. Educating our kids
should be just that

Well, I'm pretty sure those who "think" the Iraqi war is a failure, who think Republicans don't care about seniors social security or leaving children behind in any way could be just thinking in terms of saying the little yakkety yak things that scare people into voting for their own candidates, not Republican ones. The truth is, Republicans are not going after valid claims on social security, are not going after kids' medical or educational needs, nor any other way that would diminish any American citizen. All that negative stuff is just scare-talk the opposition always claims as a step up to their agendas to get power over the budget to tax and spend. We may be out of money, but we're not out of heart, and we will defend the nation's safety, wherever it takes us.

Go, Republicans!

 

[JRK]

Why would anyone continue to claim the iraqi war was a failure?

The medicare prescription should have had enough of an off set in the amount we are taxed to off set it.
No child left behind I could not agree with any more with you. Educating our kids
should be just that

Well, I'm pretty sure those who "think" the Iraqi war is a failure, who think Republicans don't care about seniors social security or leaving children behind in any way could be just thinking in terms of saying the little yakkety yak things that scare people into voting for their own candidates, not Republican ones. The truth is, Republicans are not going after valid claims on social security, are not going after kids' medical or educational needs, nor any other way that would diminish any American citizen. All that negative stuff is just scare-talk the opposition always claims as a step up to their agendas to get power over the budget to tax and spend. We may be out of money, but we're not out of heart, and we will defend the nation's safety, wherever it takes us.

Go, Republicans!

I agree

The issue i had with no child left behind was it was for the most part unfunded

No 9-11 and we have a balanced budget by 2007, if not before

Looking back I am not sure we should have had a VAT tax tied directly to the wars
It would have been pennies
we did the right thing by invading, I truly believe that
It amazes me that a person will call them selves a "conservative" and would be against funding the wars
war was not our doing. We had no choice. All of us should have made a scarfiice to have paid for it

 

[JakeStarkey]

NCLB has been a monstrostiy, and never should have been enacted: both parties at fault for that.

The Iraqi has been economically and philosophically a fiasco: illegal, unsustainable, and eventually a failure as Iran allies with Iraq. We had every choice, and we made the wrong one. Any conservative or Hard Right will agree with that.

 

[JRK]

It is difficult to believe that this thread is still functioning. What was the result of the War in Iraq? We established a fragile, barely functioning pseudo-democracy in alliance with Iran and Syria, America's fiercest foes in the region. Yes, Saddam was an evil man, but America put him there. Where were the voiced of the right wing when he was committing these atrocities? Were you speaking out against the results of America's actions? No, it was 'My country right or wrong'. The only stance that those of you on the right take is to oppose whatever Liberals believe in, which is no stance at all.

Fragile? 62% of the poulation voted in the last election
It was Iraq under GWB pushing the issue that agreed we should leave in 2012, we are

I dont care what the spin is in who oput him there, the reason this thread is still going is the truth is hitting these peoples eyes for the first time
some will not accept it, but most i am sure are amazed

Amazed at what?

Amazed that Saddam had WMDs that were never accounted for in Iraq
Amazed that there was a small mountain of yellow cake found in Iraq that was not accounted for
Amazed there is al-Qaeda in Iraq
The group was founded in 2003 and first led by the Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who declared allegiance to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network in October 2004. It was initially operating under the name Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad (Arabic: جماعة التوحيد والجهاد*, "Group of Monotheism and Jihad"); since 2004 its official name is Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (QJBR) ("Organization of Jihad's Base in the Country of the Two Rivers").[4] Foreign (non-Iraqi) fighters are widely thought to play a key role in its network.[5]

Amzed that it is over, we did exa ctly what wesaid we were going to do and with 62% OF the Iraqi people voting in the last election its looking good

 

[BlindBoo]

The language of SCR 1441 is clear that the only actions that members would take if the inspectors found any of the alleged WMD or if they were hindered in their search was for the SC to reconviene to determine what to do. That is the only way several countries would sign off on it.

and the US being a member found over 500 of them
I am just kidding
your trying to convince the world the UN had jurisdiction over the US and defending its self
There is nothing I can do to comment on that
its to big of a joke, with respect to it being a joke
i am, serious
this country is not going to defend its self if the UN says it can

The weapons that the USA alleged Iraq of having were simply not found. You are the one trying to convince yourself I'm saying the UN has jurisdiction over the USA defending itself. I'm not saying that at all. We have every right to defend ourselves from real threats. Iraq posed no threat to us. The UN was formed in the wake of WWII to try and stop wars of aggresssion. Of course the Veto works in our favor and no UNSC sanction will ever come out against us for launching the invasion and occupation of Iraq.....

 

[JakeStarkey]

I am amazed that JRK continues to be so goofy about this issue. He is an example of what unthinking neo-consevatism can do to an American's brain pan. Wow.

 

[Nic_Driver]

Fragile? 62% of the poulation voted in the last election
It was Iraq under GWB pushing the issue that agreed we should leave in 2012, we are

I dont care what the spin is in who oput him there, the reason this thread is still going is the truth is hitting these peoples eyes for the first time
some will not accept it, but most i am sure are amazed

Amazed at what?

Amazed that Saddam had WMDs that were never accounted for in Iraq
Amazed that there was a small mountain of yellow cake found in Iraq that was not accounted for
Amazed there is al-Qaeda in Iraq
The group was founded in 2003 and first led by the Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who declared allegiance to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network in October 2004. It was initially operating under the name Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad (Arabic: جماعة التوحيد والجهاد*, "Group of Monotheism and Jihad"); since 2004 its official name is Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (QJBR) ("Organization of Jihad's Base in the Country of the Two Rivers").[4] Foreign (non-Iraqi) fighters are widely thought to play a key role in its network.[5]

Amzed that it is over, we did exa ctly what wesaid we were going to do and with 62% OF the Iraqi people voting in the last election its looking good

I'm amazed that you have the balls to still profess these lies when they've been debunked multiple times, by multiple people in multiple posts.

 

[BlindBoo]

what does the UN have to do with the US congress and the terms it set forth to attack?
Saddam did not meet HR-1441
we invaded
again you have shown nothing in our constitution that states the UN has jurisdiction in the matters that concern our country, its congress nor its president

The UN was specifically mentioned in the resolution. The UN was set up to stop wars of aggression.

to start with the UN did not do there job
every-one who has spun this speaks of the over 500 munitions found that met the criteria of a WMD as being old and not udefull
The terms of the agreement made no mention of age nor condition and it should be noted the shape of those munitions in the 90s would not reflect the condition they were in 2003

To document there being: they failed
to document there destruction: they failed
same with the large amount of yellow cake found

They were old and not in a usable state. Not that they were not still dangerous in some way.

Iraq did in fact fail to document the destruction of several items in it's inventory of prohibited weapons and chemical. A very small percent of what they had. That was not the reason given for the invasion. That was that he was actively producing and stockpiling new weapons. Leftover muntions from the 80's (develops while receiving support from the West) was not a good enough reason to send 4000+ soldiers to their graves, well at least to me it's not. Perhaps it is to you......

 

[BlindBoo]

Fragile? 62% of the poulation voted in the last election
It was Iraq under GWB pushing the issue that agreed we should leave in 2012, we are

I dont care what the spin is in who oput him there, the reason this thread is still going is the truth is hitting these peoples eyes for the first time
some will not accept it, but most i am sure are amazed

Amazed at what?

Amazed that Saddam had WMDs that were never accounted for in Iraq
Amazed that there was a small mountain of yellow cake found in Iraq that was not accounted for
Amazed there is al-Qaeda in Iraq
The group was founded in 2003 and first led by the Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who declared allegiance to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network in October 2004. It was initially operating under the name Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad (Arabic: جماعة التوحيد والجهاد*, "Group of Monotheism and Jihad"); since 2004 its official name is Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (QJBR) ("Organization of Jihad's Base in the Country of the Two Rivers").[4] Foreign (non-Iraqi) fighters are widely thought to play a key role in its network.[5]

Amzed that it is over, we did exa ctly what wesaid we were going to do and with 62% OF the Iraqi people voting in the last election its looking good

Yellow cake

If you check into this, you'll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam's government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.

Al Queda in Iraq

If you check further into this alleged camp with ties to al Queda, it was set up in the Free-Kurdish zone protected by the US and had no operational ties with Saddams govenement.

What we said?

No we didn't honor our commitment we made when we signed on to SCR 1441. We breached the peace. We were the aggressors. It was a strategic blunder that will cost us for decades to come.

 

[JRK]

and the US being a member found over 500 of them
I am just kidding
your trying to convince the world the UN had jurisdiction over the US and defending its self
There is nothing I can do to comment on that
its to big of a joke, with respect to it being a joke
i am, serious
this country is not going to defend its self if the UN says it can

The weapons that the USA alleged Iraq of having were simply not found. You are the one trying to convince yourself I'm saying the UN has jurisdiction over the USA defending itself. I'm not saying that at all. We have every right to defend ourselves from real threats. Iraq posed no threat to us. The UN was formed in the wake of WWII to try and stop wars of aggresssion. Of course the Veto works in our favor and no UNSC sanction will ever come out against us for launching the invasion and occupation of Iraq.....

Was there brand new scud missiles with war heads filled with mustard gas found?
No
Was there Weapons found that Saddam was suppose to have destroyed and by not destroying them was not in compliance with the UN sanctions?
Yes
Your of the opinion we should not have invaded, your to the opinion that there was no threat
The US congress we elected as well as the president of the US thought different. It is, it has been and allways will be that simple

having respect for your opinion is one thing, denying the events as they took place is another
The UN was wrong and i dont care what those munitions looked like in 2003 there were never suppose to have been there as was the yellow cake that was found

USATODAY.com - U.S. transferred uranium from Iraq without U.N. authorization

Quote: "The nearly 2 tons of low-enriched uranium and approximately 1,000 highly radioactive items transferred from Iraq to the United States last month had been placed under seal by the International Atomic Energy Agency at the sprawling Tuwaitha nuclear complex, 12 miles south of Baghdad, the officials said."

...material that could have been used to make dirty bombs...well, if that is not materials for a form of WMDs then I do not know what is kids!...lol...!

Now that was in 2004, here is more today, in 2008:
Evidence of WMDs presence in Iraq. - a knol by Luis T. Puig