Why We're Where We Are

[Moonglow]

You seem to be ignorant of the fact that those Americans living and voting back then seemed to think FDR was the bees knees, so your opinion does not matter on his ability to get elected and to end a great depression, since according to your types, recessions heal themselves...But at what human costs?

.....why do the facts upset you so?

Yours are not facts but opinions, history has revealed the facts...

Here is a fact history has revealed:

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. —Winston Churchill

WC and Maggie Thatcher supported NHS, sweet Athena.

Sweet Jakey, times have changed. ISIS will be coming over very soon.

Oh my, my,
Oh hell yes,
We gotta put on that party dress....

 

[JakeStarkey]

You seem to be ignorant of the fact that those Americans living and voting back then seemed to think FDR was the bees knees, so your opinion does not matter on his ability to get elected and to end a great depression, since according to your types, recessions heal themselves...But at what human costs?

.....why do the facts upset you so?

Yours are not facts but opinions, history has revealed the facts...

Here is a fact history has revealed:

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. —Winston Churchill

WC and Maggie Thatcher supported NHS, sweet Athena.

Sweet Jakey, times have changed. ISIS will be coming over very soon.

ISIS is already here, and we will handle it just fine.

 

[Ava]

.....why do the facts upset you so?

Yours are not facts but opinions, history has revealed the facts...

Here is a fact history has revealed:

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. —Winston Churchill

WC and Maggie Thatcher supported NHS, sweet Athena.

Sweet Jakey, times have changed. ISIS will be coming over very soon.

Oh my, my,
Oh hell yes,
We gotta put on that party dress....

Hush up and pull up those pants.....

 

[Ava]

.....why do the facts upset you so?

Yours are not facts but opinions, history has revealed the facts...

Here is a fact history has revealed:

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. —Winston Churchill

WC and Maggie Thatcher supported NHS, sweet Athena.

Sweet Jakey, times have changed. ISIS will be coming over very soon.

ISIS is already here, and we will handle it just fine.

Jakey, when the ISIS savages come over in numbers, your president will run under his desk. What an anti-social way to treat invited guests.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Astounding how consistently wrong you are!

Batting a negative .1000!

"....the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR,...."

1. He did no such thing......in fact, he extended the recession into a depression.

2. The basis of FDR's 1932 campaign to win the presidency from Herbert Hoover was his emphatic promise to the suffering American people, that he would balance the budget. Of course, he also promised that he would use the government to create jobs, and that they "had a right to a comfortable living."
FDR s Commonwealth Club Address

3.The part about balancing the budget had a certain resonance as President Harding had veered sharply away from federal spending and solved as big a recession in about one year. Certainly Franklin Roosevelt knew this, as he hammered away at Hoover's spending. October 19, 1932, he nailed Hoover, observing that in recent years federal expenses had increased by $1 billion "and that I may add, is the most reckless and extravagant past that I have been able to discover in the statistical record of any peacetime Government anywhere, any time." Franklin D. Roosevelt Campaign Address on the Federal Budget at Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

a. And this: "... carrying out the plain precept of our Party, which is to reduce the cost of current Federal Government operations by 25 percent." Ibid.


b. Roosevelt expanded the federal government and ran up deficits much greater than those of Hoover.



4. Franklin Roosevelt's Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau confessed that the "New Deal" was a failure in sworn testimony before Congress on May 9, 1939.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work."

And FDR's Treasury Secretary also told Congress:

"I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!" (See: Human EventsGet Over It New Deal Didn t Do the Job Human Events\
and
The Heritage Foundation We re Spending More Than Ever and It Doesn t Work .)



Read more:Articles The Madness of Keynesian Economics

I see, so his 4 re-elections reflected the disappointment of the US citizen, got anymore lies to tell?

No, you moron.....this is what it reflected:
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."
Rahm Emanuel

1. “We began this experiment in 1933 under the pressure of an internal economic crisis. We continue and extend it under the necessities of a war crisis....It is born in crisis, lives on crisis, and cannot survive the era of crisis. By the very law of its nature it must create for itself, if it is to continue, fresh crises from year to year. …And our future is all charted out upon the same turbulent road of permanent crisis.” John T. Flynn, "As We Go Marching," p. 256

Then what was Reagan's excuse for the crisis that he hailed?

So you've given up trying to defend the indefensible.....and now choose to attack the greatest President of the last 100 years?

Let's leave Ronaldus Maximus for another thread.

He was really called Bigutus Dickus...

Gee....another classy post from a Liberal.

Shocker

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....

The Federal Reserve made that Depression.

Good try.

 

[Edgetho]

ISIS is already here, and we will handle it just fine.

You mean like you did in Boston?

Good job, dimocrap scum

 

[JakeStarkey]

And the far right is driveling and off OP. Noted.

PC is trying to make the desire for a better American life rooted in communism.

Strange.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PC writes the most ignorant things (Americans desire for the better life is founded in communism), then doubles down. Wow. Is it that she lives in a rent-controlled apartment that fuels her resentment of those who do so much better than her?

She's pretty much proven with this thread that Republican = Communist.

So...you don't know what the word 'proven' means?

I told you you should have remained in school beyond the third grade!

Please close the thread, mods. PC has posted an OP that has imploded quickly; she merely trolls now and flames others.

On second thought, don't. The idea that American desire for the better life is communist is hilarious. We can have a lot of fun with her.

'Go now, write it on a tablet for them, inscribe it on a scroll, that for the days to come it may be an everlasting witness.'
Isaiah 30:8


And I do.

 

[Edgetho]

Hoover emitted the chicken in every pot standard, through his failed policies on the depression presidency...the American voter wanted action by the govt. and elected a man that delivered, FDR, and they kept electing him because at least he tried, where the GOP wanted to wait for a prevailing wind to set sail....

The Federal Reserve made that Depression.

Good try.

The cessation of War Debt payments by the Central Powers caused the Depression.

Hoover made it marginally worse and FDR was way out of his league. He had no clue.

The Depression didn't end until after we bombed the Industrial World into ruins.

When you're the only Country left with the ability to produce, it's kinda hard NOT to succeed

 

[PoliticalChic]

And the far right is driveling and off OP. Noted.

PC is trying to make the desire for a better American life rooted in communism.

Strange.

The end doesn't justify the means.

"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."
Thomas Jefferson
US Department of the Treasury

Founding.com A Project of the Claremont Institute

 

[Edgetho]

And the far right is driveling and off OP. Noted.

PC is trying to make the desire for a better American life rooted in communism.

Strange.

You were about to tell us how dimocrap scum are handling ISIS so very well

 

[PoliticalChic]

The massive government spending program of WWII is what got us out of the Depression?

lol, are you sure?

No, you stupid pile of shit.

The fact that we bombed the most of the entire World's Industrial Centers into rubble got us out of the Depression.

You really are a stupid *****.

No it didn't. The massive government spending program to build the war machine is what put people to work.

Yes, the government can create jobs.

Btw, the country came out of recession in 1933.

NYLiar burnishing his credentials.

1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…”

He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .



2. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.”
article - AEI

Those lies don't become true no matter how often you post them.

Since you're a simpleton, I give you a simple explanation. The blue parts are economic expansion, the red parts are economic contraction.

1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .


It appears you are unfamiliar with Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The massive government spending program of WWII is what got us out of the Depression?

lol, are you sure?

No, you stupid pile of shit.

The fact that we bombed the most of the entire World's Industrial Centers into rubble got us out of the Depression.

You really are a stupid *****.

No it didn't. The massive government spending program to build the war machine is what put people to work.

Yes, the government can create jobs.

Btw, the country came out of recession in 1933.

NYLiar burnishing his credentials.

1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…”

He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .



2. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.”
article - AEI

Those lies don't become true no matter how often you post them.

Since you're a simpleton, I give you a simple explanation. The blue parts are economic expansion, the red parts are economic contraction.

1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .


It appears you are unfamiliar with Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian.

So?

He was wrong. Are claiming a liberal can never be wrong?

The chart clearly shows he was wrong.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And, an important distinction between Republicans and conservatives:


7. "The see-through conservatives who rule the Republican Party are in league with
Democrats....Why would they allow Lois Lerner of the IRS to plead the Fifth time after time and to destroy the hard drives on her computers? Why would they look the other way while Democratic operatives within federal agencies blatantly target patriots from the Tea Party with impunity?
Why do Republican Party leaders cave again and again to Obama's agenda?"

....Obama's disregard for the rule of law marches us at the very least further along toward a mid-twenty-first-century dictatorship."
Savage, Op. Cit.



a. Ted Cruz: “At this point with grassroots conservatives around the country it’s a close vote between who they distrust the most, the president, [Speaker] John Boehner [R-Ohio] or Mitch McConnell,” he said." The Ted Cruz Majority The American Spectator

 

[Camp]

Interesting fact when discussing facts about the Great Depression and unemployment. How is it that so many Americans loved FDR during that time even though the unemployment numbers where so high? Easy explanation. The method for counting the unemployed was far different than used today. The numbers represented workers who did not have jobs in private industry. They did not include people working on public projects. Those working on public projects are considered to be on welfare and relief by today's revisionist. The people who built three aircraft carriers in preparation for WWll, the highways, bridges and tunnels that are still being used today, the National Park facilities, the dams, the Post Offices, schools, hospitals, National Guard Armories and all the other countless infrastructure that has served us for over 75 years were built by unemployed people, even though they got pay checks. The people getting payed to build the wonderful things that gave our nation a great infrastructure for the 20th Century and prepared us for a two front World War knew they weren't unemployed. The long line of unemployed PC uses for part of the revisionist scam could have never been assembled or formed. Her hoped for imaginary participants were busy building America's infrastructure.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No, you stupid pile of shit.

The fact that we bombed the most of the entire World's Industrial Centers into rubble got us out of the Depression.

You really are a stupid *****.

No it didn't. The massive government spending program to build the war machine is what put people to work.

Yes, the government can create jobs.

Btw, the country came out of recession in 1933.

NYLiar burnishing his credentials.

1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…”

He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .



2. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.”
article - AEI

Those lies don't become true no matter how often you post them.

Since you're a simpleton, I give you a simple explanation. The blue parts are economic expansion, the red parts are economic contraction.

1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .


It appears you are unfamiliar with Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian.

So?

He was wrong. Are claiming a liberal can never be wrong?

The chart clearly shows he was wrong.

Let's leave it up to those familiar with Schlesinger, and with your track record, to determine who is wrong.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"The end doesn't justify the means." How does the American desire to succeed come from communism. It is rooted in capitalism, PC. Government assistance is not socialism.

Once again, you try redefine terms and fail.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And the far right is driveling and off OP. Noted.

PC is trying to make the desire for a better American life rooted in communism.

Strange.

You were about to tell us how dimocrap scum are handling ISIS so very well

Ask the guy who was killed in Boston.

 

[Edgetho]

7. "The see-through conservatives who rule the Republican Party are in league with
Democrats....Why would they allow Lois Lerner of the IRS to plead the Fifth time after time and to destroy the hard drives on her computers?

This is why liberturdians disgust me.

Why don't you look into what happened to the Lois Lerner Contempt of Congress charge and get back to me.