Why we need to end the Death Penalty

[protectionist]

As long as they are alive it's possible that new, unknown information might gain their freedom. If they are dead, they are already dead. On the purely practical side, it's cheaper to lock them up forever than to execute them.

1. As long as they are alive, it's possible that they may kill more people. Plenty of cases like that have happened. It is a HUGE RISK to not execute, in cases where the guilt is undeniably proven.

2, This is one of the most brain notions ever espoused by liberals. Cheaper to house, feed, provide medical care for somebody for 70 years, than to just do that for about 2-3 years, and then execute them ? Who the hell came up with that piece of looney hogwash ?

 

[marvin martian]

Numbers don’t lie

If you want to talk about cruel and inhumane, California has 650 people on death row, many who have been there for decades.

 

[protectionist]

Don't know much about this case. The guy might be a monster who intended to kill the baby. Doesn't matter. We have killed innocent people in the past, and it's clear that we will again in the future. Lock them up forever if you think it is justified, but we don't need to kill more innocent people.

Of course we don't need to kill more innocent people. That is why the death penalty should be restricted to only cases where guilt is 100% proven (ex. a video of the killing)

 

[protectionist]

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Redfish]

You would bet wrong
Texas has a much higher murder rate

Stats of the States - Homicide Mortality

www.cdc.gov

DC and Maryland are higher, but those are govt stats so who knows.

 

[Redfish]

Hopefully, Texas will do the right thing

that state generally does the right thing. but maybe we should talk about the riots in Minneapolis and that state's reaction, led by its governor, or maybe Oregon and Washington state in 2020? did they do the right thing when rioters burned, killed, and destroyed public and private property. You libs focus on Texas and ignore the wrongdoing in your blue states.

 

[rightwinger]

If you want to talk about cruel and inhumane, California has 650 people on death row, many who have been there for decades.

 

[rightwinger]

that state generally does the right thing. but maybe we should talk about the riots in Minneapolis and that state's reaction, led by its governor, or maybe Oregon and Washington state in 2020? did they do the right thing when rioters burned, killed, and destroyed public and private property. You libs focus on Texas and ignore the wrongdoing in your blue states.

Has nothing to do with capital punishment

 

[marvin martian]

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Once again, I accept your total surrender.

See ya next time!

 

[Redfish]

Has nothing to do with capital punishment

of course not, it has to do with liberal hypocrisy, which you display here every day.

 

[protectionist]

We need to end the death penalty because it is stupid.

• There is no consistency in how it's meted out,
• It is often the sentence for morons and crazies who are, while legally competent, not practically competent,
• In most jurisdictions, it requires appeal after appeal, wasting untold resources on people who are simply not worth it,
• The appeals over many years forces the survivors of the victims to re-live their personal tragedy over and over,
• Revenge is not a legitimate goal of the criminal justice system,
• It is used so seldom that any hope that it might be a general deterrent is lost,
• It would be cheaper simply to house such prisoners in a single place, an island facility that is impregnable, and have the states pay a fee to have their "death row" inmates housed there. Guantanamo Bay comes to mind.

For the record, this is the first time I've agreed with the OP.

• Then be consistent.
• Legally competent and practically competent are the same thing.
• Then DON'T DO THAT. Let there be 3 years of appeals and that's it. Stretched out years of appeals are only to increase money for lawyers.
• Revenge has nothing to do with it. Protection and justice is the purpose.
• Then don't use it seldom. Do it more often.
• It is not cheaper to house, feed, medical care for decades, than to execute. The idea of that is ludicrous.

 

[martybegan]

As long as they are alive it's possible that new, unknown information might gain their freedom. If they are dead, they are already dead. On the purely practical side, it's cheaper to lock them up forever than to execute them.

It's only more expensive because DP opponents clog the system, regardless of if they believe the person is innocent or not.

You can't bitch about the time and cost when your side is causing that time and cost.

Great Yiddish word for that, Chutzpah.

 

[sealybobo]

Your absolutism, simple-mindedness, and ignorance are symptoms of the cult you're in. Get out while you still can.

You didn't answer my question. You're just like Trump. Dodge, weave.

 

[sealybobo]

• Then be consistent.
• Legally competent and practically competent are the same thing.
• Then DON'T DO THAT. Let there be 3 years of appeals and that's it. Stretched out years of appeals are only to increase money for lawyers.
• Revenge has nothing to do with it. Protection and justice is the purpose.
• Then don't use it seldom. Do it more often.
• It is not cheaper to house, feed, medical care for decades, than to execute. The idea of that is ludicrous.

That really bugs me when they say it's cheaper to keep them alive. No way. Maybe if it's a private prison it's better for them to house them for life but it can't be cheaper to keep them alive. No way.

Are they counting the judges salary? The court appointed lawyer? The cost of the drug you inject? The cost of a trial? All these people work anyways. It's not like they're working overtime. I need to see the costs of executing. I can't just except the response "it's cheaper to keep them alive".

I'm going to keep coming back to the idea that we should execute bad prisoners. Violent prisoners. If you are an animal in prison, and are set to get out in 5 years, fuck that. You never make it to the parole hearing.

How much does a trial cost?

The cost of a trial can vary depending on the type of case, and the state court administrative office for Berrien County, Michigan estimates the average cost of a misdemeanor case to be $705.05 and a felony case to be $2,812.611

 

[marvin martian]

You didn't answer my question. You're just like Trump. Dodge, weave.

Your question is based on a lie you told yourself. I'm not participating in your delusions.

 

[rightwinger]

What to Know About Robert Roberson Facing Execution on Oct. 17 in Texas for a Crime That Never Occurred

Mr. Roberson’s case is riddled with unscientific evidence, inaccurate and misleading medical testimony, and prejudicial treatment.

innocenceproject.org

 

[Slyhunter]

1. As long as they are alive, it's possible that they may kill more people. Plenty of cases like that have happened. It is a HUGE RISK to not execute, in cases where the guilt is undeniably proven.

2, This is one of the most brain notions ever espoused by liberals. Cheaper to house, feed, provide medical care for somebody for 70 years, than to just do that for about 2-3 years, and then execute them ? Who the hell came up with that piece of looney hogwash ?

What can you do to someone already facing a life sentence? He’s free to do shit in Prison unless you execute him or put him in Solitary, which I believe is inhumane.

 

[Crepitus]

To a fellow antisemite like you?

What makes you think I'm an anti semite?

 

[Crepitus]

Everyone who wants to save the unborn are sick the head.............apparently.

No, just you freaky-ass weirdo tRumplings.

 

[rightwinger]

Looks like the courts have given him another week

Texas judge grants injunction ahead of man's execution in 'shaken baby syndrome' case

A Texas judge has granted a temporary injunction, delaying 57-year-old Robert Roberson's execution in a shocking move hours before he was to be put to death Thursday.

www.foxnews.com