Why we have gun crime, the Minnesota edition...gun crime after gun crime and released over and over

[Anathema]

Another right winger with his murder fantasies...

Why am I not surprised?

Maybe because it’s the single most effective way to end recidivism ever decided? 100% of dead criminals do not reoffend.

 

[JoeB131]

Maybe because it’s the single most effective way to end recidivism ever decided? 100% of dead criminals do not reoffend.

Guy, if guns made us safer, we'd have the lowest crime rates in the industrialized world, not the highest.

 

[Blues Man]

As usual your thinking is ass backwards.

You have insurance on your property and restitution can be made by the offender.

Violent crimes leave scars property crimes don't. I know this you don't seem to

More like I don't care that much...

A burgler is more likely to reoffend than a murderer....

A murderer steals life

A burglar steals meaningless possessions

See the difference

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[Anathema]

Guy, if guns made us safer, we'd have the lowest crime rates in the industrialized world, not the highest.

I didn’t say guns made us safer. They do, but thst was not my point...

My point was that 100% of executed criminals never commit another crime. Can you seriously argue with that number?

 

[Anathema]

A murderer steals life

A burglar steals meaningless possessions

See the difference

I have several items that I own whose personal, sentimental value far exceeds the value of my own life. Imagine what I’d do to protect them.

 

[Disir]

At the prison I worked at I saw convicts released and return after a few months, sometimes after only a few weeks. I saw some that had been in and out of the same unit 4 times. The government are the ones causing this problem. My drug dealing son in law paroled after a long time in the pen for drugs, gets arrested 3 times for drugs within about a month, and this was at least 8 months ago. Guess what, he's still running around free, but he goes to church every Sunday.

We don't have the prison space to lock up people for petty offenses.

We already lock up 2 million people and have another 7 million on probation or parole.

Since most people in prison aren't actually serving time but are instead awaiting trial all we need to do to free up prison space is revamp our arraignment and bail policies and use more electronic monitoring

Actually, people in prison are serving time. Jail is not prison. Can you serve time at your local county jail? Yes, up to a year. Over a year you go to prison.

And the point I was making was that most people in Jail or prison have not been convicted of any crime but are merely awaiting trial.

That is a symptom of the deficiencies in our arraignment and bail procedures

Except that isn't true. Pretrial detainees are not held in prisons. All of the people in prison have been convicted.

 

[Disir]

State prison populations have declined over the past 10 years.

I think we would get further discussing criminal justice if people knew how the fuck it worked.

Right now it's not working when you take 20 years to execute a murderer and keep releasing violent scum.

It's not working when your parole boards are crap and your sentencing laws have changed. But, the need to keep releasing violent scum is the primary issue.

 

[Blues Man]

A murderer steals life

A burglar steals meaningless possessions

See the difference

I have several items that I own whose personal, sentimental value far exceeds the value of my own life. Imagine what I’d do to protect them.

Your priorities are out of wack

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[August West]

A felon arrested 4 times in 4 months for carrying a firearm and keeps getting cut loose because of Democrat policies.

Remind me why we need MORE gun laws again, leftists...

It`s not the dems supplying the firearms. Tell us about the dem policy that keeps letting him out of jail and re-arming him. If you can`t prove that the judge or whoever is a dem just STFU. You bozos need to find some fresh material because you`re boring the hell out of normal people with the same crap everyday. YAWN!!

 

[Anathema]

Your priorities are out of wack

Then it’s a good thing they’re my priorities not yours, isn’t it?

 

[miketx]

A burglar is much less likely to re-offend after a load of buckshot to the chest.

Another right winger with his murder fantasies...

Why am I not surprised?

Drug dealing is a petty offense ?

It is to me. Of course, we lock up people for using drugs or even not ratting out their boyfriends.

KIlling a thief in your house is not murder, it's self defense, crime lover.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

A burglar is much less likely to re-offend after a load of buckshot to the chest.

Another right winger with his murder fantasies...

Why am I not surprised?

Drug dealing is a petty offense ?

It is to me. Of course, we lock up people for using drugs or even not ratting out their boyfriends.

You are a loon.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Normal people who own and carry guns for self defense are not the people causing our gun crime. Our gun crime is the result of criminal justice policies that allow violent, repeat gun offenders out of jail on cash bond, or no bond, over and over again, and out of prison, over and over again, with ridiculously short prison sentences...

this needs to stop......

MN Criminal An Example Of Catch And Release Criminal Justice

The St. Paul Pioneer Press uncovered the recent criminal history of 25-year old Stephen Michael Lincoln, a convicted felon who’s been caught with guns and ammunition four different times since September of 2019. Each arrest has led to more charges for Lincoln, but none of them have led to him remaining behind bars for long, despite violating his parole.


He was charged Monday in Ramsey County District Court with two counts of unlawful possession of a firearm after police spotted two people “slumped over” in a pickup truck Saturday, according to the criminal complaint.

Officers recognized Lincoln as one of the occupants from his previous arrests. They found the gun, vest, magazines and ammunition when they searched the vehicle, according to the criminal complaint.

The firearm, a loaded Brugger & Thomet TP9 handgun, was beneath the driver’s seat, according to the complaint. The ballistic vest, three Glock 9-millimeter magazines, two Tec magazines and the loose rounds of ammunition were in a suitcase in the back seat.

Lincoln was arrested at the scene and declined to make a statement to investigators. The female passenger with him said she didn’t know anything about guns in the vehicle.

The Pioneer Press says Lincoln has two other outstanding cases in Ramsey County, including a case stemming from an October arrest on a warrant.

While searching him, police discovered a small bag of methamphetamine in his pocket and a handgun on his waist, court documents say. A loaded handgun also was reportedly found in his vehicle.

Lincoln, who has pleaded not guilty to the charges, posted bond in October and was released from custody.

Democrats in control of Minnesota’s House and governor’s office have been demanding passage of several gun control laws, including a universal background check bill and a red flag law, but Republicans, who still control the state Senate, have been calling for better enforcement of existing laws. In fact, the Duluth News-Tribune covered a Senate hearing in Hibbing, Minnesota where Republicans and Democrats were interested in two very different approaches to fighting crime.


Police have arrested this felon four times in the last four months. Each time, he’s been carrying guns, charges say. – Twin Cities

State law prohibits Lincoln from possessing a firearm since he was convicted of felony level domestic assault in 2011, court records say.
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He has two other unlawful gun-possession cases pending against him in Ramsey County from earlier this fall.

In the first, officers pulled him over Sept. 13 after noting that his vehicle’s windows were illegally tinted and found multiple bags of marijuana, as well as two loaded handguns, inside, charges say.

He was picked up again Oct. 7 on a warrant from the previous incident after officers found him working on his vehicle at a White Bear Lake address.

While searching him, police discovered a small bag of methamphetamine in his pocket and a handgun on his waist, court documents say. A loaded handgun also was reportedly found in his vehicle.

Once you realize that one of the Primary objectives of the "Progressive Left" is to incite social discord, for the purpose of displacing the current system with their "Transformations", you realize that it's all intentional.

From the open borders to freeing criminals to Sanctuary cities to crazy minimum wages.

They are working overtime to break the back of the current system.

Unfortunately, "We" are doing little to nothing in order to stop them. When the bad guys are far more determined to win than the good guys, the future is not so bright.

 

[Blues Man]

Your priorities are out of wack

Then it’s a good thing they’re my priorities not yours, isn’t it?

All I know is that nothing , no object is worth more than my or my wife's life.

 

[Anathema]

All I know is that nothing , no object is worth more than my or my wife's life.

You are more than free to feel that way. I personally disagree when it comes to my own life.

Then again I place little value on my own life, and even less on most others.

 

[Blues Man]

All I know is that nothing , no object is worth more than my or my wife's life.

You are more than free to feel that way. I personally disagree when it comes to my own life.

Then again I place little value on my own life, and even less on most others.

What good is an object that has sentimental value if you're dead and can't enjoy it?

You do realize that it is you being alive that gives that object meaning don't you?

 

[Anathema]

What good is an object that has sentimental value if you're dead and can't enjoy it?

You do realize that it is you being alive that gives that object meaning don't you?

The objects are not mine alone but family heirlooms, passed down from generation to generation. If I die they continue on to others who will hold them in as high regard as I do and protect them as well.

 

[Blues Man]

What good is an object that has sentimental value if you're dead and can't enjoy it?

You do realize that it is you being alive that gives that object meaning don't you?

The objects are not mine alone but family heirlooms, passed down from generation to generation. If I die they continue on to others who will hold them in as high regard as I do and protect them as well.

That usually doesn't happen once an object gets far enough removed from the source of the sentimentality.

Chances are all those things yo think are worth more than your life will end up in an attic collecting dust , in a pawn shop or on Ebay

 

[Anathema]

That usually doesn't happen once an object gets far enough removed from the source of the sentimentality.

We are a very sentimental family. Especially when it comes to certain people and things.

 

[Blues Man]

That usually doesn't happen once an object gets far enough removed from the source of the sentimentality.

We are a very sentimental family. Especially when it comes to certain people and things.

And what's more important the people or the things? What would you rather have, your father's pen or your father?
Will the members of your family 2 or 3 generations from now care about the sentimental souvenir on your shelf?