Zone1 Why the modern institution of marriage is unBiblical

[Midnight FM]

If we read the Bible, we can use Adam and Eve as an example of a union between a man and woman as originally intended.

Adam and Eve had no need for marital formalities, just as they weren't ashamed of their nakedness. That all changed after the Fall of Man and the advent of civilization, where marriage became a legal and ceremonial institution. And, often, polygamy was practiced in the Old Testament, even though it came with problems, such as favoritism of one wife over another.

Therefore, the modern institution of marriage is unBiblical. It's an invention of civilization, not of God, with the Catholic Church likely having proceeded the development of modern legal and ceremonial forms of marriage. (Wedding vows, for example, are a heretical invention of the Catholic Church, and are found no where in the Bible).

Marriage in the way that God intended it did not require any formalities. It was just a natural union between a man and a woman. Formalities were instituted by heretical institutions of man, such as the Catholic Church.

 

[Meriweather]

If we read the Bible, we can use Adam and Eve as an example of a union between a man and woman as originally intended.

Adam and Eve had no need for marital formalities, just as they weren't ashamed of their nakedness. That all changed after the Fall of Man and the advent of civilization, where marriage became a legal and ceremonial institution. And, often, polygamy was practiced in the Old Testament, even though it came with problems, such as favoritism of one wife over another.

Therefore, the modern institution of marriage is unBiblical. It's an invention of civilization, not of God, with the Catholic Church likely having proceeded the development of modern legal and ceremonial forms of marriage. (Wedding vows, for example, are a heretical invention of the Catholic Church, and are found no where in the Bible).

Marriage in the way that God intended it did not require any formalities. It was just a natural union between a man and a woman. Formalities were instituted by heretical institutions of man, such as the Catholic Church.

Do you have any opinions on what Moses and Jesus said about divorce? Weddings featured in at least two parables, and then there was the wedding feast in which Jesus participated.

 

[Hafar1014]

If we read the Bible, we can use Adam and Eve as an example of a union between a man and woman as originally intended.

Adam and Eve had no need for marital formalities, just as they weren't ashamed of their nakedness. That all changed after the Fall of Man and the advent of civilization, where marriage became a legal and ceremonial institution. And, often, polygamy was practiced in the Old Testament, even though it came with problems, such as favoritism of one wife over another.

Therefore, the modern institution of marriage is unBiblical. It's an invention of civilization, not of God, with the Catholic Church likely having proceeded the development of modern legal and ceremonial forms of marriage. (Wedding vows, for example, are a heretical invention of the Catholic Church, and are found no where in the Bible).

Marriage in the way that God intended it did not require any formalities. It was just a natural union between a man and a woman. Formalities were instituted by heretical institutions of man, such as the Catholic Church.

There is no Fall of Man in Genesis. Its the Moral teaching of man referred to as the Trial For Mans Freedom by the Orthodox Rabbis who study the Torah.

Adam and Eve ae metaphors in an allegory. They never existed in reality. They are used to express moral, philosophy, evolution, and human behavior. There is no original sin or Fall. Thats a Christian distortion used to create a dogma for Jesus.

The two parent legal marriage is the result of many years of experience. Cultures that allow polygamy create a culture of violent males. This was the result of the Mormons Lost Boys, and the violence in Muslim Culture.
Genesis describes the union of man and woman as the creation of a total human being

 

[Cougarbear]

If we read the Bible, we can use Adam and Eve as an example of a union between a man and woman as originally intended.

Adam and Eve had no need for marital formalities, just as they weren't ashamed of their nakedness. That all changed after the Fall of Man and the advent of civilization, where marriage became a legal and ceremonial institution. And, often, polygamy was practiced in the Old Testament, even though it came with problems, such as favoritism of one wife over another.

Therefore, the modern institution of marriage is unBiblical. It's an invention of civilization, not of God, with the Catholic Church likely having proceeded the development of modern legal and ceremonial forms of marriage. (Wedding vows, for example, are a heretical invention of the Catholic Church, and are found no where in the Bible).

Marriage in the way that God intended it did not require any formalities. It was just a natural union between a man and a woman. Formalities were instituted by heretical institutions of man, such as the Catholic Church.

Well, you are simply assuming a lot of things. So, let me do the same. When Adam and Eve gained knowledge of good and evil, understanding that nakedness isn't appropriate in most settings, there was a covenant made between God and Adam and eve. They received symbols like the coats of skin as a remembrance of their covenants made with God and themselves. This was a formal joining of the two most ancient of days, Adam and Eve. We have so little in the bible of this event and I believe there were more covenants beside this one. I believe they covenanted also to be joined together as husband and wife and that marriage is only legal through the union of a man and a woman.

 

[onefour1]

Luke 16:18
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

The institution of marriage is part of the gospel of Jesus Christ and he has command against defiling your marriages by forbidding the acts of adultery. If God did not condone marriage, why would he bother to make laws against adultery?

Genesis 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

In this verse it uses the word, "wife" and not "woman". Does this not assume marriage? The Hebrew word for "wife" is "bə·’iš·tōw " which as far as I can tell means the female marriage partner. So don't assume that just because we don't have a record of the marriage that Adam and Eve were not married. God likely joined them together in marriage

 

[onefour1]

Man and woman were meant to be joined together in marriage else we wouldn't have the teachings against adultery.

Genesis 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

1 Corinthians 11:11
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

 

[initforme]

Marriage is going away on its own, slowly but surely. Divorce is becoming more popular. Ying and yang.

 

[Hafar1014]

Marriage is going away on its own, slowly but surely. Divorce is becoming more popular. Ying and yang.

Marriage is opposed by the democrats who advocate single mothers over the 2 parent family which will destroy society

 

[Votto]

Marriage is going away on its own, slowly but surely. Divorce is becoming more popular. Ying and yang.

As the state takes over marriage, and not the church, this will happen.

Marriage is a religious institution, but the state has slowly taken it over and made their own rules for it.

I never understood why the state allows for special perks or marriage. What does the secular state care in regards to your sexual preferences? And they prevent polygamists from marrying why again?

Do they just find it yucky?

 

[Blaster]

Eve encouraged Adam to eat the forbidden fruit. Women always get their way.

 

[initforme]

As the state takes over marriage, and not the church, this will happen.

Marriage is a religious institution, but the state has slowly taken it over and made their own rules for it.

I never understood why the state allows for special perks or marriage. What does the secular state care in regards to your sexual preferences? And they prevent polygamists from marrying why again?

Do they just find it yucky?

Marriage is simply an agreement, a partnership. Its a 50 50 agreement. Divotrce is the gift that can end it if conflict arises.

 

[Hafar1014]

As the state takes over marriage, and not the church, this will happen.

Marriage is a religious institution, but the state has slowly taken it over and made their own rules for it.

I never understood why the state allows for special perks or marriage. What does the secular state care in regards to your sexual preferences? And they prevent polygamists from marrying why again?

Do they just find it yucky?

Polygamy creates a culture of violent males. Evidence Islam and the Mormon Lost Boys. The 2 parent family is the foundation of a stable culture.

 

[initforme]

Polygamy creates a culture of violent males. Evidence Islam and the Mormon Lost Boys. The 2 parent family is the foundation of a stable culture.

Agreed. Getting married in ones 20s leads to high rates of divorce. Thats too young in todays world.

 

[Votto]

Polygamy creates a culture of violent males. Evidence Islam and the Mormon Lost Boys. The 2 parent family is the foundation of a stable culture.

You could argue the same about gay relationships, especially lesbian ones.

I've read a great deal about this problem that very few people talk about.

But even so, this is speculative at best. Is it better to have sex and children outside of marriage? No, as any foster kid will tell you, but there are no laws against that, is there?

You either pony up and give everyone their rights or you pick favorites, which is what the state does.

Why did the state pick gays over polygamists to allow them to marry? I think there are two reasons.

1. The gay lobby group gives a lot of money to politicians. Why? Because by in large they are career people who have no family, which allows them to generate more wealth. But polygamists have large families that more than likely only have one partent working to support them all, so they have no money to give to the Swamp to earn special state perks like gays were given with marriage.

2. The state has sold out to the Climate Cult and will resume once Trump is gone. Those who are gay will more than likely never produce children, which is what the state is after. Also, polygamists have more children on average, which is contrary to what the state wants.

 

[Meriweather]

Marriage is simply an agreement, a partnership. Its a 50 50 agreement. Divotrce is the gift that can end it if conflict arises.

Divorce can be an interesting discussion. One study involved people who stated they were in unhappy marriages. The study tracked these couples over time. The results were that those who remained married said they now consider their marriage a happy marriage. Those who divorced....the greatest majority were still unhappy. (I'm not sure who or when this study was made. I only remember reading about it.)

 

[Votto]

Agreed. Getting married in ones 20s leads to high rates of divorce. Thats too young in todays world.

Do you know who have lower divorce rates? It is Christians who attend church regularly with each other.

If you google if the Christian rate is lower, it's not, it is only lower for Christians who actually live out their faith and attend church regularly, which makes sense.

Again, marriage is a Christian institution and makes sense to no one except Christians because they view the union between a man and a woman sacred before God as where Leftists view sex like they do going to the bathroom. It is just one more biological urge they need to quench. There is nothing really sacred or special about it in the eyes of the Left. In fact, the more random sexual "experiences" you have the better. And when they do have sex, the last thing they want to have happen is to reproduce which is the biological function of sex.

Crazy.

 

[Hafar1014]

You could argue the same about gay relationships, especially lesbian ones.

I've read a great deal about this problem that very few people talk about.

But even so, this is speculative at best. Is it better to have sex and children outside of marriage? No, as any foster kid will tell you, but there are no laws against that, is there?

You either pony up and give everyone their rights or you pick favorites, which is what the state does.

Why did the state pick gays over polygamists to allow them to marry? I think there are two reasons.

1. The gay lobby group gives a lot of money to politicians. Why? Because by in large they are career people who have no family, which allows them to generate more wealth. But polygamists have large families that more than likely only have one partent working to support them all, so they have no money to give to the Swamp to earn special state perks like gays were given with marriage.

2. The state has sold out to the Climate Cult and will resume once Trump is gone. Those who are gay will more than likely never produce children, which is what the state is after. Also, polygamists have more children on average, which is contrary to what the state wants.

No you cant gay marriages have not been a problem and when they adopt their families are just as good as a male female marriage in fact some are even better. I was a family therapist and I worked with gay families as well as heterosexual families. There is no data or research that shows a gay family cant raise healthy children.
The ideal is 2 parent family.
Polygamy creates a culture of violent males and oppression of women. Islam and Mormans proved this.
You can simply prove your point but Im sure you cant

 

[Votto]

No you cant gay marriages have not been a problem and when they adopt their families are just as good as a male female marriage in fact some are even better. I was a family therapist and I worked with gay families as well as heterosexual families. There is no data or research that shows a gay family cant raise healthy children.
The ideal is 2 parent family.
Polygamy creates a culture of violent males and oppression of women. Islam and Mormans proved this.
You can simply prove your point but Im sure you cant

I have had personal experience with lesbian couples who have zero control over their children and who were abusive to each other.

I would assume as a counselor you would have encountered such people or why go to counseling?

And how many polygamists have you counceled?

Are you saying that all children from a polygamist setting are abused and screwed up or just some? And if just some, why are denying those that are not?

You sir are a bigot against both Muslims and Mormons

You do realize this, right?

 

[initforme]

And when they do have sex, the last thing they want to have happen is to reproduce which is the biological function of sex.

So a young married couple that doesnt want kids shouldnt ever have intimacy then? You are against contraception? Thatss crazy as crazy gets.

 

[Votto]

My point is that the world is more focused on fulfilling bodily urges and monetary desires than spiritual ones.

That is why they view the fetus as not a person as most abortions are done for financial reasons. Then again, if there is no God people are just glorified animals, and look at what humans do to animals as they lock them in zoos for their own personal amusement or force them to be beasts of burden to work the fields or kill and eat them.