Why support Israel?

[francoHFW]

Well we should never let Israel get destroyed or anything, but I really think we should make them act more fairly toward the Palestinians this is ridiculous... Palestinians should be able to have an economy and a port.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

****Believe it or not, during the Middle Ages, it was the Arabs / Muslims that that civilized the European neanderthal barbarians.

European Neandertha Barbarians, huh?

Why should we support people who think this way about Europeans?

 

[Hossfly]

Because Israel is America's staunchest ally.

Suck it, Joo-haters!

Haha, good joke.

If true, why did Britain, Poland, Australia, and Spain fight in Iraq with the U.S, but not Israel?

Come to think about it, Which war did Israel fight with the U.S in?
I can't think of any?
Can you?

Anyone with half a brain knows that if the IDF were to send troops into a hot war, the entire middle east would attack .Israel and the countries with nukes would use them.

Thing is, we know Israel has Nukes because of Mordechai Vanatu, and there's no evidence of Middle-Eastern nations having Nukes.

Pakistan has nukes

Iran probably has nukes

Saudia Arabia developing nukes to counter Iran

 

[Coyote]

Either White or non white. Tare or not. NO MIXED RACES. Either Adamic or not.

That is bizarre.

Hmmm. Either Aryan or non aryan. What is so complex? Christian Identity , Dual Seedline , goes back to origins to determine true European Heritage. the Old Testament presents nearly 800 racial Laws.

Because race is an artificial construct arbritarily defined by cultures.

The idea that a Nigerian, a Swede, and a Chinese person are all different, are arbitrary?. Haha good joke.

Yes.

Look at the margins of humanity. When does the ocean become the strand, or the air become the sea? At what exact point does one people become another? People's move, migrate, conquer and are conquered. What is the exact point the Semitic peoples and Caucasian peoples become African peoples in North Africa? What makes people morphologically distinct? It is as culturally arbitrary as the one drop rule that marked racial distinctions in America.

 

[Coyote]

Because Israel is America's staunchest ally.

Suck it, Joo-haters!

Haha, good joke.

If true, why did Britain, Poland, Australia, and Spain fight in Iraq with the U.S, but not Israel?

Come to think about it, Which war did Israel fight with the U.S in?
I can't think of any?
Can you?

Anyone with half a brain knows that if the IDF were to send troops into a hot war, the entire middle east would attack .Israel and the countries with nukes would use them.

Thing is, we know Israel has Nukes because of Mordechai Vanatu, and there's no evidence of Middle-Eastern nations having Nukes.

Pakistan has nukes

Iran probably has nukes

Saudia Arabia developing nukes to counter Iran

 

[Coyote]

We are all mutts.

I know I am for sure. The only consistent thing in my lineage is that I'm a Jew.

I know I have Danish, Norwegian and Welsh....beyond that, who knows ...

 

[Coyote]

No such thing as half a jew. Either White or jew

That is silly.

Why? Virtually no European heritage could be assigned to the jew. They are either kazar or from edom.

So you are admitting that "Jew" is also a race? And what happens when a Black African man and a white European woman have a child. No such thing as a mixed race person?

Hell...even the Poles came out of Africa

Kostenki man the 36,000 year old Cro-Magnon-Man of Europe, was genetically like Europeans ,rather than like Africans.

Eurogenes Blog: Kostenki14: first genome of an Upper Paleolithic European

The shared drift stats of the form f3(Mbuti;K14,X), where X is the test population, reveal that from among present-day Eurasians, this early European is most similar to Northeast Europeans, such as Lithuanians, Estonians and Belarusians, and some Western Europeans, like Basques and Orcadians (ie. people from the Orkney Isles). This is also what we've seen from other indigenous European hunter-gatherer genomes sequenced to date

Yet before that we emerged from Africa, the mother of man. Which is one reason racism is so ironic.

 

[Coyote]

Ok so get it it that you irrationally hate an entire religious group...

Ever sat down to lunch with a Jew and chatted...like normal people do?

Supporting Israel is complicated and the OP is open ended. You can condemn or support state actions but the Jewish people, like any other, are diverse individuals. To hate them as a group based on religion or eth nic heritage is to demonize and thst leads to dehumanizing.

Well, I don't know how Jews can expect to be respected, after they've killed thousands of Poles following WW2, push dumb Polak jokes slander, push Poland did the Holocaust lies, and in general push up against Conservative, and Catholic values that most Poles hold dear.

No, I wouldn't say I hate all Jews, just a lot of them.

I've never even seen a Jew show any gratitude towards Poland.

So, why should I show them any gratitude?

No, I don't like Jews, in fact they're my least favorite people.

Hitler killed them. Poles and Jews both. In fact, a lot of POLISH Jews too. They were Poles...

If Jews were Polish, why did most of them speak Yiddish, rather than Polish?

No, Polish Jews weren't Polish, nothing about them was Polish.

Why do many Americsns speak spanish? Doesnt make them less American.[/QUOTE

When after generations many speak another language first, they're obviously disloyal to that nation.

We can see similar with some Yiddish speaking communities in the U.S.

Here below is an Jew who speaks in broken English despite probably being born in the U.S.
Which he mutters I live in Jewland not America.

I totally disagree. Look at Spanish in the US. Spanish preceded English in a quarter of of our country and after we took it, it continued side by side. Speaking other languages has no bearing on loyalty, only what is in the heart. It's the same with French and English in Canada, Hebrew and Arabic in Israel, and many indigenous languages around the world.

That brings us to your video and Yiddish. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Yiddish developed in the Eastern European and Russian Jewish communities where Jews were forced to live in segregated communities?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Well, I don't know how Jews can expect to be respected, after they've killed thousands of Poles following WW2, push dumb Polak jokes slander, push Poland did the Holocaust lies, and in general push up against Conservative, and Catholic values that most Poles hold dear.

No, I wouldn't say I hate all Jews, just a lot of them.

I've never even seen a Jew show any gratitude towards Poland.

So, why should I show them any gratitude?

No, I don't like Jews, in fact they're my least favorite people.

Hitler killed them. Poles and Jews both. In fact, a lot of POLISH Jews too. They were Poles...

If Jews were Polish, why did most of them speak Yiddish, rather than Polish?

No, Polish Jews weren't Polish, nothing about them was Polish.

Why do many Americsns speak spanish? Doesnt make them less American.[/QUOTE

When after generations many speak another language first, they're obviously disloyal to that nation.

We can see similar with some Yiddish speaking communities in the U.S.

Here below is an Jew who speaks in broken English despite probably being born in the U.S.
Which he mutters I live in Jewland not America.

I totally disagree. Look at Spanish in the US. Spanish preceded English in a quarter of of our country and after we took it, it continued side by side. Speaking other languages has no bearing on loyalty, only what is in the heart. It's the same with French and English in Canada, Hebrew and Arabic in Israel, and many indigenous languages around the world.

That brings us to your video and Yiddish. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Yiddish developed in the Eastern European and Russian Jewish communities where Jews were forced to live in segregated communities?

Demographic stats prove that most of the Hispanics in the U.S South-West are new arrivals, rather than those who've been there for a long time.

Besides, Jews weren't in Poland first, Polish people were, and those Jews they spoke Yiddish first despite living there for generations as a sign of disrespect.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Well, I don't know how Jews can expect to be respected, after they've killed thousands of Poles following WW2, push dumb Polak jokes slander, push Poland did the Holocaust lies, and in general push up against Conservative, and Catholic values that most Poles hold dear.

No, I wouldn't say I hate all Jews, just a lot of them.

I've never even seen a Jew show any gratitude towards Poland.

So, why should I show them any gratitude?

No, I don't like Jews, in fact they're my least favorite people.

Hitler killed them. Poles and Jews both. In fact, a lot of POLISH Jews too. They were Poles...

If Jews were Polish, why did most of them speak Yiddish, rather than Polish?

No, Polish Jews weren't Polish, nothing about them was Polish.

Why do many Americsns speak spanish? Doesnt make them less American.[/QUOTE

When after generations many speak another language first, they're obviously disloyal to that nation.

We can see similar with some Yiddish speaking communities in the U.S.

Here below is an Jew who speaks in broken English despite probably being born in the U.S.
Which he mutters I live in Jewland not America.

That brings us to your video and Yiddish. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Yiddish developed in the Eastern European and Russian Jewish communities where Jews were forced to live in segregated communities?

Yiddish is clearly more German than anything else.

What forced segregation in Eastern Europe against Jews?

I'm aware of the Pale of Settlement which kept Jews in Poland, Belarus, and Ukraine rather than in Russia proper.

But, no I'm not aware of any system where there was otherwise forced segregation in Eastern Europe of Jews.

actually Jews were doing well in Eastern Europe, they were well represented in elite positions like Lawyers, Doctors, not to mention they were more likely to literate.

So, no I don't think there was forced segregation in Eastern Europe like you seem to be making up.

You just seem to be making up excuses for Jewish inability to assimilate.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

That is silly.

Why? Virtually no European heritage could be assigned to the jew. They are either kazar or from edom.

So you are admitting that "Jew" is also a race? And what happens when a Black African man and a white European woman have a child. No such thing as a mixed race person?

Hell...even the Poles came out of Africa

Kostenki man the 36,000 year old Cro-Magnon-Man of Europe, was genetically like Europeans ,rather than like Africans.

Eurogenes Blog: Kostenki14: first genome of an Upper Paleolithic European

The shared drift stats of the form f3(Mbuti;K14,X), where X is the test population, reveal that from among present-day Eurasians, this early European is most similar to Northeast Europeans, such as Lithuanians, Estonians and Belarusians, and some Western Europeans, like Basques and Orcadians (ie. people from the Orkney Isles). This is also what we've seen from other indigenous European hunter-gatherer genomes sequenced to date

Yet before that we emerged from Africa, the mother of man. Which is one reason racism is so ironic.

Southern Africans probably related to San Bushman probably spawned Humans.

However, they also had enormous cranial capacities back then, like the Boskop Man.

Clearly the cranial capacity has shrunk enormous amounts in all Africans, but especially Southern Africans.

While it's true that all populations have lost cranial capacities, in many parts of Europe, and Asia people have become more brachycephalic, where the more primitive rear brain shrinks, while the more advanced frontal lobe widens.

Yes, head size, cranial capacity, and cephalic index all seem to correlate with intelligence.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Either White or non white. Tare or not. NO MIXED RACES. Either Adamic or not.

That is bizarre.

Hmmm. Either Aryan or non aryan. What is so complex? Christian Identity , Dual Seedline , goes back to origins to determine true European Heritage. the Old Testament presents nearly 800 racial Laws.

Because race is an artificial construct arbritarily defined by cultures.

The idea that a Nigerian, a Swede, and a Chinese person are all different, are arbitrary?. Haha good joke.

Yes.

Look at the margins of humanity. When does the ocean become the strand, or the air become the sea? At what exact point does one people become another? People's move, migrate, conquer and are conquered. What is the exact point the Semitic peoples and Caucasian peoples become African peoples in North Africa? What makes people morphologically distinct? It is as culturally arbitrary as the one drop rule that marked racial distinctions in America.

So, because some peoples have mixed, therefor it means they don't exist?

So, if you mix Yellow, Green, and Red in the middle on a pallet, they don't exist, huh?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Well, I don't know how Jews can expect to be respected, after they've killed thousands of Poles following WW2, push dumb Polak jokes slander, push Poland did the Holocaust lies, and in general push up against Conservative, and Catholic values that most Poles hold dear.

No, I wouldn't say I hate all Jews, just a lot of them.

I've never even seen a Jew show any gratitude towards Poland.

So, why should I show them any gratitude?

No, I don't like Jews, in fact they're my least favorite people.

Hitler killed them. Poles and Jews both. In fact, a lot of POLISH Jews too. They were Poles...

If Jews were Polish, why did most of them speak Yiddish, rather than Polish?

No, Polish Jews weren't Polish, nothing about them was Polish.

Why do many Americsns speak spanish? Doesnt make them less American.[/QUOTE

When after generations many speak another language first, they're obviously disloyal to that nation.

We can see similar with some Yiddish speaking communities in the U.S.

Here below is an Jew who speaks in broken English despite probably being born in the U.S.
Which he mutters I live in Jewland not America.

It's the same with French and English in Canada, Hebrew and Arabic in Israel, and many indigenous languages around the world.

Yes, in All these cases they very well represent a fifth column, that could split from the nation.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

That is silly.

Why? Virtually no European heritage could be assigned to the jew. They are either kazar or from edom.

So you are admitting that "Jew" is also a race? And what happens when a Black African man and a white European woman have a child. No such thing as a mixed race person?

Hell...even the Poles came out of Africa

Kostenki man the 36,000 year old Cro-Magnon-Man of Europe, was genetically like Europeans ,rather than like Africans.

Eurogenes Blog: Kostenki14: first genome of an Upper Paleolithic European

The shared drift stats of the form f3(Mbuti;K14,X), where X is the test population, reveal that from among present-day Eurasians, this early European is most similar to Northeast Europeans, such as Lithuanians, Estonians and Belarusians, and some Western Europeans, like Basques and Orcadians (ie. people from the Orkney Isles). This is also what we've seen from other indigenous European hunter-gatherer genomes sequenced to date

Yet before that we emerged from Africa, the mother of man. Which is one reason racism is so ironic.

Kostenki man proves Europeans were genetically most like Europeans on arrival to Europe.
That means a lot.

Either there was a Cro Magnon race formed by genetic drift between Africa, and Europe, or perhaps Cro Magnons were already separated in Africa.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Either White or non white. Tare or not. NO MIXED RACES. Either Adamic or not.

Why do you think Aryan or White is somehow a "superior" race? if you read some history you will realize that white Europeans were actually backwards and uncivilized compared to other civilizations, and the reason they advanced was because they learned from these civilizations, through trade or invasions. Besides, associating the term "Aryan" with white Europeans or German is a total farce as the real Aryans are Persians / Kurds!

People with R haplogroup probably are superior.

They founded Indo-Europeans, forging huge empires from Indus valley, to Tocharian China, to Greece, Rome, all the way into Spain, Ireland, and Iceland.

But, they may have also founded Afro-Asiatic peoples too.
Why?
Because R haplogroup is dominant in African Chadic speakers of the Afro-Asiatic branch.

This may very well be evidence of a small ruling elite of people with R haplogroup from the Steppes coming into also form Afro-Asiatic peoples too.

 

[Hossfly]

Why? Virtually no European heritage could be assigned to the jew. They are either kazar or from edom.

So you are admitting that "Jew" is also a race? And what happens when a Black African man and a white European woman have a child. No such thing as a mixed race person?

Hell...even the Poles came out of Africa

Kostenki man the 36,000 year old Cro-Magnon-Man of Europe, was genetically like Europeans ,rather than like Africans.

Eurogenes Blog: Kostenki14: first genome of an Upper Paleolithic European

The shared drift stats of the form f3(Mbuti;K14,X), where X is the test population, reveal that from among present-day Eurasians, this early European is most similar to Northeast Europeans, such as Lithuanians, Estonians and Belarusians, and some Western Europeans, like Basques and Orcadians (ie. people from the Orkney Isles). This is also what we've seen from other indigenous European hunter-gatherer genomes sequenced to date

Yet before that we emerged from Africa, the mother of man. Which is one reason racism is so ironic.

Southern Africans probably related to San Bushman probably spawned Humans.

However, they also had enormous cranial capacities back then, like the Boskop Man.

Clearly the cranial capacity has shrunk enormous amounts in all Africans, but especially Southern Africans.

While it's true that all populations have lost cranial capacities, in many parts of Europe, and Asia people have become more brachycephalic, where the more primitive rear brain shrinks, while the more advanced frontal lobe widens.

Yes, head size, cranial capacity, and cephalic index all seem to correlate with intelligence.

For your information, the Dutch established posts in S. Africa in 1652 to grow produce for ships crews. Before that there were no Whites in that country.



Afrikaners
Afrikaners are Dutch, German, and French Europeans Who Settled in South Africa.

The flag of South Africa. Source: CIA World Factbook, 2007
by Katherine Schulz Richard
Updated March 03, 2017


The Afrikaners are a South African ethnic group who are descended from 17th century Dutch, German, and French settlers to South Africa. The Afrikaners slowly developed their own language and culture when they came into contact with Africans and Asians. The word “Afrikaners” means “Africans” in Dutch. About three million people out of South Africa’s total population of 42 million
identify themselves as Afrikaners.
The Afrikaners have
have impacted South African history tremendously, and their culture has spread across the world.

SETTLING IN SOUTH AFRICA
In 1652, Dutch emigrants first settled in South Africa near the Cape of Good Hope in order to establish a station where ships traveling to the Dutch East Indies (currently Indonesia) could rest and resupply. French Protestants, German mercenaries, and other Europeans joined the Dutch in South Africa. The Afrikaners are also known as the “Boers,” the Dutch word for “farmers.” To aid them in agriculture, the Europeans imported slaves from places like Malaysia and Madagascar while enslaving some local tribes, such as the Khoikhoi and San.



Afrikaners in South Africa - Overview and History

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

So you are admitting that "Jew" is also a race? And what happens when a Black African man and a white European woman have a child. No such thing as a mixed race person?

Hell...even the Poles came out of Africa

Kostenki man the 36,000 year old Cro-Magnon-Man of Europe, was genetically like Europeans ,rather than like Africans.

Eurogenes Blog: Kostenki14: first genome of an Upper Paleolithic European

The shared drift stats of the form f3(Mbuti;K14,X), where X is the test population, reveal that from among present-day Eurasians, this early European is most similar to Northeast Europeans, such as Lithuanians, Estonians and Belarusians, and some Western Europeans, like Basques and Orcadians (ie. people from the Orkney Isles). This is also what we've seen from other indigenous European hunter-gatherer genomes sequenced to date

Yet before that we emerged from Africa, the mother of man. Which is one reason racism is so ironic.

Southern Africans probably related to San Bushman probably spawned Humans.

However, they also had enormous cranial capacities back then, like the Boskop Man.

Clearly the cranial capacity has shrunk enormous amounts in all Africans, but especially Southern Africans.

While it's true that all populations have lost cranial capacities, in many parts of Europe, and Asia people have become more brachycephalic, where the more primitive rear brain shrinks, while the more advanced frontal lobe widens.

Yes, head size, cranial capacity, and cephalic index all seem to correlate with intelligence.

For your information, the Dutch established posts in S. Africa in 1652 to grow produce for ships crews. Before that there were no Whites in that country.



Afrikaners
Afrikaners are Dutch, German, and French Europeans Who Settled in South Africa.

The flag of South Africa. Source: CIA World Factbook, 2007
by Katherine Schulz Richard
Updated March 03, 2017


The Afrikaners are a South African ethnic group who are descended from 17th century Dutch, German, and French settlers to South Africa. The Afrikaners slowly developed their own language and culture when they came into contact with Africans and Asians. The word “Afrikaners” means “Africans” in Dutch. About three million people out of South Africa’s total population of 42 million
identify themselves as Afrikaners.
The Afrikaners have
have impacted South African history tremendously, and their culture has spread across the world.

SETTLING IN SOUTH AFRICA
In 1652, Dutch emigrants first settled in South Africa near the Cape of Good Hope in order to establish a station where ships traveling to the Dutch East Indies (currently Indonesia) could rest and resupply. French Protestants, German mercenaries, and other Europeans joined the Dutch in South Africa. The Afrikaners are also known as the “Boers,” the Dutch word for “farmers.” To aid them in agriculture, the Europeans imported slaves from places like Malaysia and Madagascar while enslaving some local tribes, such as the Khoikhoi and San.



Afrikaners in South Africa - Overview and History

Where did I say otherwise?
I am speaking of San Bushman...

 

[JoelT1]

From the Lavon affair, to the U.S.S Liberty bombing, to Jonathan Pollard..... It just seems to be a one sided affair.... Especially considering support for Israel makes Muslims more angry at the U.S.

Can someone please tell us what's the purpose for us to support Israel?

Just because you read about Israel in the bible, or because they're Jewish.
Really?
as if those are logical explanations?

Were the Muslim Barbary pirates who attacked US ships angry at Israel?

 

[JoelT1]

Let's start with Palestine...
What is Israel doing for Palestinian sovereignty?

What is Palestine doing to support Israeli sovereignty?

The difference is Israel has a real nation, Palestine does not...

Palestine: Fake Roman name for ancient Israel

 

[JoelT1]

If we didn't support Israel, we wouldn't be in the middle-east. No 9/11, no Gulf war, not quagmire in Afghanistan. Not to mention all the billions of dollar each year we give to Israel and her neighbors.

Jesus said Jews are children of the devil. And, for some reason, some really twisted Christians think the children of the devil are the children of Abraham. God said he would bless those who bless Abraham. But, the Bible says Christians count as Abraham's children.

Um, Jesus was a devout Jew D’oh!