Why such a double standard when it comes to the Jewish state?

[Sherlock Holmes]

When all the Arabs recognize Israel’s right to exist and stop initiating attacks.

Did the Third Reich have a right to exist?

 

[Lisa558]

Did the Third Reich have a right to exist?

And the antisemite compares Israel to Nazi Germany. SMH.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

There are two categories of extremist Islam based on Sharia. One is the category that has arisen from Western (US) manipulation, encouragement and arming of small extremist fringe Muslim groups, groups like ISIS, Taliban etc.

The other is countries that are treated with deference by the United States (irrespective of who is president) and these are places like Saudi Arabia which no president has criticized not even your hero Trump.

In fact Trump like all those before him, acts like a court jester with the Saudis, debasing himself, just as he does with Sickrael it would be amusing if it wasn't so revolting.

Again you’re placing blame on others

Sad

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Again, do you dispute what I said? if this is unfamiliar to you then how is that a failing on my part?

Honor killings and sharia are the fault of the US. I get Your argument: it’s crazy

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Did the Third Reich have a right to exist?

Until they became hostile, yep

 

[Shusha]

Until they became hostile, yep

Exactly. This whole "right to exist" nonsense was invented to delegitimize and erase Israel. There is no such thing as a "right to exist". States exist, or they do not. Germany exists. Israel exists.

Now, a particular government can (and in many cases should) be disciplined, sanctioned, or gone to war with if their actions are interfering with the rights of other States to territorial integrity or sovereignty or if they are committing human rights violations.

Sherlock just likes to take every opportunity he can to drop in a false comparison between Israel and Nazi Germany.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Exactly. This whole "right to exist" nonsense was invented to delegitimize and erase Israel. There is no such thing as a "right to exist". States exist, or they do not. Germany exists. Israel exists.

Now, a particular government can (and in many cases should) be disciplined, sanctioned, or gone to war with if their actions are interfering with the rights of other States to territorial integrity or sovereignty or if they are committing human rights violations.

Sherlock just likes to take every opportunity he can to drop in a false comparison between Israel and Nazi Germany.

He is dishonest to the core. Poor debater

 

[toomuchtime_]

I recall a recent exchange between us on this theme, that was the one where I asked for evidence, any evidence that a Muslim governed state had ever advocated let alone undertaken anything like the Nazis did, You came up with absolutely nothing as I warned you would be the case.

No Muslim concentration camps for Jews, no Muslim gas chambers for Jews - yet you insist on portraying Islam as being on par with the Third Reich. Israel has far more in common with the Third Reich than any Muslim country I know of - even extremists one's created by the United States geopolitical games.

You never had that conversation with me and the fact is that from the very beginning of Islamic civilization right down to today, the persecution and humiliation of Jews has been a core value of Islamic civilization, law and religion and is the only reason the Muslims in Palestine were incensed and became violent with the arrival of more Jews in Palestine and you repeatedly pine for those days when Muslims had the power to brutalize Jews in this way.

 

[Shusha]

He is dishonest to the core. Poor debater

His intent is not to debate, its to poison.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

What is considered finished,?

Sharia in the Sahara

Diaspora of the Paleonasties. Annexation of Gaza and the West Bank. No Moslems within Israel, either.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Honor killings and sharia are the fault of the US. I get Your argument: it’s crazy

Befriending extremist Sharia regimes is the fault of the US, do you approve of the US doing business with such a regime?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You never had that conversation with me and the fact is that from the very beginning of Islamic civilization right down to today, the persecution and humiliation of Jews has been a core value of Islamic civilization, law and religion and is the only reason the Muslims in Palestine were incensed and became violent with the arrival of more Jews in Palestine and you repeatedly pine for those days when Muslims had the power to brutalize Jews in this way.

Please show me any historical data showing that Arabs - be they Muslims or not - have ever advocated mass extermination of Jews, concentration camps for Jews or gas chambers for Jews, or medical experiments on Jews? why are you having trouble presenting such data?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Befriending extremist Sharia regimes is the fault of the US, do you approve of the US doing business with such a regime?

No. But then again we do business with China, which tortured and or killed 2k Muslims. Do you approve of us working with them?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

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In which case it was the height of stupidity to try and create a foreign colonial state in the midst of all those countries wasn't it.

 

[Mister Iggy]

Im starting to think IM2 and Lisa are the same person. They are mirrors of each other.. perpetual victims.. they swing anything and everything around to fuel their victim narratives.

Get some help guys..

Lisa, move to Israel. You remind me of my ex wife’s cousin, she has to live in Israel because everyone is an anti semite. She doesn’t realize that people dont like her because she is a tragic moron, and has to blame anti semitism for everything.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Please show me any historical data showing that Arabs - be they Muslims or not - have ever advocated mass extermination of Jews, concentration camps for Jews or gas chambers for Jews, or medical experiments on Jews? why are you having trouble presenting such data?

Please stop trying to change the subject. The issue is that Muslim hatred of Jews dates back to the 7th century, was ensconced into Muslim law by the tenth century, is a core value of Muslim civilization, law and religion and was present in Palestine at least 1000 years before the first Zionists arrived, and is the sole cause of all the violence in the ME.

I understand the centuries of Muslim persecution and humiliation of Jews by Muslims right down to the arrival of the first Zionists doesn't please you as much as the Holocaust has, but these are two different subjects.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

In which case it was the height of stupidity to try and create a foreign colonial state in the midst of all those countries wasn't it.

Go away.

 

[toomuchtime_]

In which case it was the height of stupidity to try and create a foreign colonial state in the midst of all those countries wasn't it.

Clearly not. Israel has become a prosperous and powerful nation and all its enemies are failing. It clearly was the height of stupidity for the Muslims to sacrifice so much to try to keep the Jews as second class citizens who can be persecuted and humiliated.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Please stop trying to change the subject. The issue is that Muslim hatred of Jews dates back to the 7th century, was ensconced into Muslim law by the tenth century, is a core value of Muslim civilization, law and religion and was present in Palestine at least 1000 years before the first Zionists arrived, and is the sole cause of all the violence in the ME.

I understand the centuries of Muslim persecution and humiliation of Jews by Muslims right down to the arrival of the first Zionists doesn't please you as much as the Holocaust has, but these are two different subjects.

You're confused, the Germans killed six millions Jews not the Arabs, stop polishing the turd that is Sickrael.