Why should blacks become republicans?

[rightwinger]

Blacks will look at candidates and decide who best represents their views and interests

90 percent will not vote Republican

The gap between black political stances, and voting patterns says that is not true.


What were "wedge issues"?

Not at all political stances are created equal

Republicans need outreach to minority voters
They intentionally slap it away

 

[IM2]

It's time these white racist republicans shut up.

During reconstruction initially it looked like blacks and whites would be able to get beyond slavery as a nation and perhaps unite. But again, not so fast. There was a republican backlash to black progress called the lily-white movement. It’s funny how that part of the republican party history is never mentioned.

“The lily-white movement was an all-white faction of the Republican Party in the Southern United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It battled and usually defeated the biracial element called the Black-and-tan faction.

During Reconstruction, following the U.S. Civil War, black leaders in Texas and around the country gained increasing influence in the Republican Party by organizing blacks as an important voting bloc. Conservative whites attempted to eliminate this influence and recover white voters who had defected to the Democratic Party. The effort was largely successful in eliminating African-American influence in the Republican Party leading to black voters predominantly migrating to the Democratic Party for much of the 20th century.

The term lily-white movement was coined by Texas Republican leader Norris Wright Cuney, who used the term in an 1888 Republican convention to describe efforts by white conservatives to oust blacks from positions of Texas party leadership and incite riots to divide the party.[1] The term came to be used nationally to describe this ongoing movement as it further developed in the early 20th century,[2] including through the administration of Herbert Hoover. Localized movements began immediately after the war but by the beginning of the 20th century the effort had become national.”

“This movement is largely credited with driving blacks out of the Republican party during the early 20th century, setting the stage for their eventual support of the Democrats.”

Michael K. Fauntroy - Republicans and the Black vote​

Really? You think it odd that an internal political fight from well over ONE HUNDRED YEARS ago is rarely discussed?

LOL!!!

Funny you Republicans say this all while talking about the democratic party of the 1860's.

LOL!

 

[IM2]

That's easy, note the ones that are silent when someone here posts something racist towards blacks, be it they are referred to as "turd colored" or "needing bananas", then note the same ones that are outspoken when someone like IM2 speaks about racism. The excuse "I didn't see it, or read it" is a tired/worn out bullshit excuse. Like here....

How many here responded that jungle bunny is a racist term? Now imagine the pages of responses had someone used a derogatory term towards whites.

qui tacet consentire videtur

It goes both ways. I've never seen any blacks speak up when a black person here posts something blatantly racist. And I've seen a lot. One poster in particular comes to mind but I won't name this person.

Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason.

Having said that, most of the people I know are conservatives and Republicans and are nothing like this. And the reason a lot of conservatives are silent most of the time is because they are simply not vocal by nature and for them, race is not an issue. By that I don't mean that they don't recognize that there is a racial divide in this country, they do. They just feel that addressing, say, inner city poverty and crime, will be better vanquished with long term economic solutions as opposed to more social initiatives and programs.

It does not go both ways. You've see nothing blatantly racist from backs here.[/QUOTE}

Oh yes I have. I've seen the words "******", "white boy", "cracker" and other derogatory terms here more times than I can count.

Talking about how whites are still racist is not blatant racism.

I never suggested otherwise.

Actually inner city poverty and crime must be addressed by both economic solutions and long term economic development. But the problem with white conservatives is they, like you, talk only about "inner city" problems, when whites have greater crime, and entire counties in poverty.

Take it easy there Lumpy, this is not a contest to see who has more crime. I merely brought up inner city problems as an example. Also, you don't know me well enough to say that I only talk about inner city problems.

You've seen nothing blatantly racist from blacks.

Yes, I have. I know blatant racism when I see it and I've seen it here from blacks as well as from whites.

This may be an uncomfortable truth for you but there are racist blacks out there, even if there are none here on the forum.

What you saw was responses to being called monkeys, chimps, apes, niggas, coons, how all blacks are dumb, how we are violent and almost every other racist comment that can be made. Just the other day I was told to eat a banana, that is not the first time that person made such a comment.

Racism is not the cure for racism. I'm not defending or excusing those clowns who use terms like "coon" or "ape", I'm just saying that throwing back terms like "cracker" is not a solution to racism and doesn't help matters.

You mentioned inner city problems without mentioning rural and suburban problems such as inner city poverty.

Correct. The example was in the context of how conservatives view blacks and black problems such as drug use, gangs and fatherless homes. Remember? The question in the OP was not why whites should be Republican. Any idiot knows there are drug problems in rural and suburban areas such as the current heroin epidemic and high meth use. But that has nothing to do with the relationship between blacks and Republicans which is what this thread is about.

You are trying to compare ****** with coon or nigga?

Are you saying that "******" and "cracker" are terms of endearment? Would you be any less offended if one of these clowns called you "blackie"? A racist term is a racist term and comes from a racist mentality so it would be pointless to compare them.

As I said before, this is not a contest to see who has more racists, blacks or whites. All I did was try to clarify how conservatives approach the issue of race.

It might be an uncomfortable truth for you, but what you call racism in blacks is not racism.

Blacks did not establish that we are the superior race. Nor did we establish our racial superiority by creating and maintaining a system of institutions that enforce our claim of racial superiority. Your argument about black racism fails to recognize this when you start talking about how racism is not the cure for racism. A black person calling someone ****** is not the same as making laws or policies that inhibit opportunity for blacks or people of color. It is not the same thing, you cannot make it the same thing no matter how long you try arguing about it.

I am the OP and the question was explain why blacks should be republican. Not the usual dumb ass white opinion about so called black communities and so called black problems. Millions of blacks live outside of inner cities. There are actually black communities that are not inner cities. So the conservative view shows that white conservatives have no clue about blacks and have a fixed opinion based on racist stereotypes.

 

[ATL]

That's easy, note the ones that are silent when someone here posts something racist towards blacks, be it they are referred to as "turd colored" or "needing bananas", then note the same ones that are outspoken when someone like IM2 speaks about racism. The excuse "I didn't see it, or read it" is a tired/worn out bullshit excuse. Like here....

How many here responded that jungle bunny is a racist term? Now imagine the pages of responses had someone used a derogatory term towards whites.

qui tacet consentire videtur

It goes both ways. I've never seen any blacks speak up when a black person here posts something blatantly racist. And I've seen a lot. One poster in particular comes to mind but I won't name this person.

Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason.

Having said that, most of the people I know are conservatives and Republicans and are nothing like this. And the reason a lot of conservatives are silent most of the time is because they are simply not vocal by nature and for them, race is not an issue. By that I don't mean that they don't recognize that there is a racial divide in this country, they do. They just feel that addressing, say, inner city poverty and crime, will be better vanquished with long term economic solutions as opposed to more social initiatives and programs.

It does not go both ways. You've see nothing blatantly racist from backs here.[/QUOTE}

Oh yes I have. I've seen the words "******", "white boy", "cracker" and other derogatory terms here more times than I can count.

Talking about how whites are still racist is not blatant racism.

I never suggested otherwise.

Actually inner city poverty and crime must be addressed by both economic solutions and long term economic development. But the problem with white conservatives is they, like you, talk only about "inner city" problems, when whites have greater crime, and entire counties in poverty.

Take it easy there Lumpy, this is not a contest to see who has more crime. I merely brought up inner city problems as an example. Also, you don't know me well enough to say that I only talk about inner city problems.

You've seen nothing blatantly racist from blacks.

Yes, I have. I know blatant racism when I see it and I've seen it here from blacks as well as from whites.

This may be an uncomfortable truth for you but there are racist blacks out there, even if there are none here on the forum.

What you saw was responses to being called monkeys, chimps, apes, niggas, coons, how all blacks are dumb, how we are violent and almost every other racist comment that can be made. Just the other day I was told to eat a banana, that is not the first time that person made such a comment.

Racism is not the cure for racism. I'm not defending or excusing those clowns who use terms like "coon" or "ape", I'm just saying that throwing back terms like "cracker" is not a solution to racism and doesn't help matters.

You mentioned inner city problems without mentioning rural and suburban problems such as inner city poverty.

Correct. The example was in the context of how conservatives view blacks and black problems such as drug use, gangs and fatherless homes. Remember? The question in the OP was not why whites should be Republican. Any idiot knows there are drug problems in rural and suburban areas such as the current heroin epidemic and high meth use. But that has nothing to do with the relationship between blacks and Republicans which is what this thread is about.

You are trying to compare ****** with coon or nigga?

Are you saying that "******" and "cracker" are terms of endearment? Would you be any less offended if one of these clowns called you "blackie"? A racist term is a racist term and comes from a racist mentality so it would be pointless to compare them.

As I said before, this is not a contest to see who has more racists, blacks or whites. All I did was try to clarify how conservatives approach the issue of race.

All you have shown is that conservatives worry about imaginary black racists, while ignoring white racists sharing their company and thanking their posts. Which is exactly why blacks avoid the GOP.

 

[katsteve2012]

I have encountered republican blacks. I am a registered democrat.
Seems some blacks do consider the standard and traditional
republican policies ADVANTAGEOUS to them as individuals

.Being black, I know a number of black republicans. .The problem is thy are still pledging allegiance to Lincoln. Todays republican party doesn't represent that anymore.

True. What is astounding is that so many of them actually believe that it still does.

And why would Blacks become republicans?
Just look at how one their own "prominent blacks has been treated by them for having the backbone to speak up.


'The Evidence is Incontrovertible.' The RNC’s First Black Chairman Says Trump Is Racist

Steele an establishment republican who is dead wrong.


His faction in the GOP lost in the primary for a reason.


Playing the vile games of the Left is part of it.

Please save such nonsense for someone who is dense enough to actually believe it..

He had the courage to not defend an indefensible comment by #45.

Was not even recognized at a recent awards ceremony, endured a public comment by another crazy wingnut who actually stated that:

"He was only appointed to lead the GOP , because he was black"

And he still remains in the party? Really?

That is blind loyalty in the face of abject stupidity.

"Party of Lincoln"? What a ******* joke.
It's not 1860 anymore, but some of those nuts sure believe that it is.

I don't who said that, but I certainly hope it is not true.


Though, liberals, constant say shit like we republicans need to reach out or try to get more diversity, so, if that was true, why would you be offended?


Why would Steele NOT being the republican party? Because some random guy said that he didnt' deserve his job?


LOL!

Much more than "just a random guy"

CPAC Official Says Michael Steele Was Chosen to Lead G.O.P. Because He’s ‘a Black Guy’

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

It goes both ways. I've never seen any blacks speak up when a black person here posts something blatantly racist. And I've seen a lot. One poster in particular comes to mind but I won't name this person.

Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason.

Having said that, most of the people I know are conservatives and Republicans and are nothing like this. And the reason a lot of conservatives are silent most of the time is because they are simply not vocal by nature and for them, race is not an issue. By that I don't mean that they don't recognize that there is a racial divide in this country, they do. They just feel that addressing, say, inner city poverty and crime, will be better vanquished with long term economic solutions as opposed to more social initiatives and programs.

It does not go both ways. You've see nothing blatantly racist from backs here.[/QUOTE}

Oh yes I have. I've seen the words "******", "white boy", "cracker" and other derogatory terms here more times than I can count.

Talking about how whites are still racist is not blatant racism.

I never suggested otherwise.

Actually inner city poverty and crime must be addressed by both economic solutions and long term economic development. But the problem with white conservatives is they, like you, talk only about "inner city" problems, when whites have greater crime, and entire counties in poverty.

Take it easy there Lumpy, this is not a contest to see who has more crime. I merely brought up inner city problems as an example. Also, you don't know me well enough to say that I only talk about inner city problems.

You've seen nothing blatantly racist from blacks.

Yes, I have. I know blatant racism when I see it and I've seen it here from blacks as well as from whites.

This may be an uncomfortable truth for you but there are racist blacks out there, even if there are none here on the forum.

What you saw was responses to being called monkeys, chimps, apes, niggas, coons, how all blacks are dumb, how we are violent and almost every other racist comment that can be made. Just the other day I was told to eat a banana, that is not the first time that person made such a comment.

Racism is not the cure for racism. I'm not defending or excusing those clowns who use terms like "coon" or "ape", I'm just saying that throwing back terms like "cracker" is not a solution to racism and doesn't help matters.

You mentioned inner city problems without mentioning rural and suburban problems such as inner city poverty.

Correct. The example was in the context of how conservatives view blacks and black problems such as drug use, gangs and fatherless homes. Remember? The question in the OP was not why whites should be Republican. Any idiot knows there are drug problems in rural and suburban areas such as the current heroin epidemic and high meth use. But that has nothing to do with the relationship between blacks and Republicans which is what this thread is about.

You are trying to compare ****** with coon or nigga?

Are you saying that "******" and "cracker" are terms of endearment? Would you be any less offended if one of these clowns called you "blackie"? A racist term is a racist term and comes from a racist mentality so it would be pointless to compare them.

As I said before, this is not a contest to see who has more racists, blacks or whites. All I did was try to clarify how conservatives approach the issue of race.

It might be an uncomfortable truth for you, but what you call racism in blacks is not racism.

Oh yes it is. You can't be so blind as to not see that.

I don't know what it is you think I'm saying here but the simple fact is some blacks are racist.

Blacks did not establish that we are the superior race. Nor did we establish our racial superiority by creating and maintaining a system of institutions that enforce our claim of racial superiority.

If it takes establishing superiority and inhibiting opportunity to be considered racist then why am I being told that merely being white makes me racist?

Your argument about black racism fails to recognize this when you start talking about how racism is not the cure for racism. A black person calling someone ****** is not the same as making laws or policies that inhibit opportunity for blacks or people of color. It is not the same thing, you cannot make it the same thing no matter how long you try arguing about it.

Whether it's the same or not it's still racist. You didn't answer my question: Would it be any less offensive or racist to call you "blackie" as opposed to "ape"? Would you or would you not consider me racist if I called you that?

You can quantify racism all you want but saying things like "white people deserve to die" and that they are "white devils" is still racist and there's no getting around that. These are quotes by Louis Farrakhan by the way and they are decidedly racist in nature.

I am the OP and the question was explain why blacks should be republican.

In my personal opinion, you were never interested in hearing opinions as to why blacks should be Republican. It's obvious you don't want to be a Republican and you don't identify with conservative views so all I can say to that is, don't become one. There's not much else to say beyond that. It's not a question as to what party you should or should not belong to, it's a question of what you wish to accomplish and by what means.

Not the usual dumb ass white opinion about so called black communities and so called black problems. Millions of backs live outside of inner cities. There are actually black communities that are not inner cities. So the conservative view shows that white conservatives have no clue about blacks and have a fixed opinion based on racist stereotypes.

I never suggested or implied there were no blacks outside the inner cities. But black on black crime and gang activity are a problem in some of these inner city neighborhoods, is it not?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

It goes both ways. I've never seen any blacks speak up when a black person here posts something blatantly racist. And I've seen a lot. One poster in particular comes to mind but I won't name this person.

Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason.

Having said that, most of the people I know are conservatives and Republicans and are nothing like this. And the reason a lot of conservatives are silent most of the time is because they are simply not vocal by nature and for them, race is not an issue. By that I don't mean that they don't recognize that there is a racial divide in this country, they do. They just feel that addressing, say, inner city poverty and crime, will be better vanquished with long term economic solutions as opposed to more social initiatives and programs.

It does not go both ways. You've see nothing blatantly racist from backs here.[/QUOTE}

Oh yes I have. I've seen the words "******", "white boy", "cracker" and other derogatory terms here more times than I can count.

Talking about how whites are still racist is not blatant racism.

I never suggested otherwise.

Actually inner city poverty and crime must be addressed by both economic solutions and long term economic development. But the problem with white conservatives is they, like you, talk only about "inner city" problems, when whites have greater crime, and entire counties in poverty.

Take it easy there Lumpy, this is not a contest to see who has more crime. I merely brought up inner city problems as an example. Also, you don't know me well enough to say that I only talk about inner city problems.

You've seen nothing blatantly racist from blacks.

Yes, I have. I know blatant racism when I see it and I've seen it here from blacks as well as from whites.

This may be an uncomfortable truth for you but there are racist blacks out there, even if there are none here on the forum.

What you saw was responses to being called monkeys, chimps, apes, niggas, coons, how all blacks are dumb, how we are violent and almost every other racist comment that can be made. Just the other day I was told to eat a banana, that is not the first time that person made such a comment.

Racism is not the cure for racism. I'm not defending or excusing those clowns who use terms like "coon" or "ape", I'm just saying that throwing back terms like "cracker" is not a solution to racism and doesn't help matters.

You mentioned inner city problems without mentioning rural and suburban problems such as inner city poverty.

Correct. The example was in the context of how conservatives view blacks and black problems such as drug use, gangs and fatherless homes. Remember? The question in the OP was not why whites should be Republican. Any idiot knows there are drug problems in rural and suburban areas such as the current heroin epidemic and high meth use. But that has nothing to do with the relationship between blacks and Republicans which is what this thread is about.

You are trying to compare ****** with coon or nigga?

Are you saying that "******" and "cracker" are terms of endearment? Would you be any less offended if one of these clowns called you "blackie"? A racist term is a racist term and comes from a racist mentality so it would be pointless to compare them.

As I said before, this is not a contest to see who has more racists, blacks or whites. All I did was try to clarify how conservatives approach the issue of race.

All you have shown is that conservatives worry about imaginary black racists, while ignoring white racists sharing their company and thanking their posts. Which is exactly why blacks avoid the GOP.

I had a black guy spit on me once. If I spit on you, would you say that was imaginary?

As I told IM2, if you don't want to be a Republican then don't. It's pointless to tell us you don't want to be one and you're not hurting my feelings by telling me.

 

[Faun]

Who gives a **** about David Duke?

Black Americans.

The fact that you don't know that illustrates my point beautifully.

Talk radio is not good for you.
.

When David Duke ran for President he got .04% of the popular vote.


He is relevant only as an example of how weak white racism is, and how corrupt the media is, every time they pretend otherwise.

David Duke only represents the overt white racist. He doesn't represent the silent covert racists that are far more in number in the white community.

If they're silent, how do you know they are?

That's easy, note the ones that are silent when someone here posts something racist towards blacks, be it they are referred to as "turd colored" or "needing bananas", then note the same ones that are outspoken when someone like IM2 speaks about racism. The excuse "I didn't see it, or read it" is a tired/worn out bullshit excuse. Like here....

A Jungle Bunny Is Not the Easter Bunny

By "racism," you mean Realism or Adultism, as opposed to your warm and fuzzy Kumbaya cartoon fantasies. By using vulgar terms, we get even for your insulting pejorative use of "racism."

How many here responded that jungle bunny is a racist term? Now imagine the pages of responses had someone used a derogatory term towards whites.

qui tacet consentire videtur

It goes both ways. I've never seen any blacks speak up when a black person here posts something blatantly racist. And I've seen a lot. One poster in particular comes to mind but I won't name this person.

Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason.

Having said that, most of the people I know are conservatives and Republicans and are nothing like this. And the reason a lot of conservatives are silent most of the time is because they are simply not vocal by nature and for them, race is not an issue. By that I don't mean that they don't recognize that there is a racial divide in this country, they do. They just feel that addressing, say, inner city poverty and crime, will be better vanquished with long term economic solutions as opposed to more social initiatives and programs.

Almost all the virulent racists on this forum are conservatives. There are a couple on the left, including that black poster you’re talking about.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

When David Duke ran for President he got .04% of the popular vote.


He is relevant only as an example of how weak white racism is, and how corrupt the media is, every time they pretend otherwise.

David Duke only represents the overt white racist. He doesn't represent the silent covert racists that are far more in number in the white community.

If they're silent, how do you know they are?

That's easy, note the ones that are silent when someone here posts something racist towards blacks, be it they are referred to as "turd colored" or "needing bananas", then note the same ones that are outspoken when someone like IM2 speaks about racism. The excuse "I didn't see it, or read it" is a tired/worn out bullshit excuse. Like here....

A Jungle Bunny Is Not the Easter Bunny

By "racism," you mean Realism or Adultism, as opposed to your warm and fuzzy Kumbaya cartoon fantasies. By using vulgar terms, we get even for your insulting pejorative use of "racism."

How many here responded that jungle bunny is a racist term? Now imagine the pages of responses had someone used a derogatory term towards whites.

qui tacet consentire videtur

It goes both ways. I've never seen any blacks speak up when a black person here posts something blatantly racist. And I've seen a lot. One poster in particular comes to mind but I won't name this person.

Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason.

Having said that, most of the people I know are conservatives and Republicans and are nothing like this. And the reason a lot of conservatives are silent most of the time is because they are simply not vocal by nature and for them, race is not an issue. By that I don't mean that they don't recognize that there is a racial divide in this country, they do. They just feel that addressing, say, inner city poverty and crime, will be better vanquished with long term economic solutions as opposed to more social initiatives and programs.

Almost all the virulent racists on this forum are conservatives. There are a couple on the left, including that black poster you’re talking about.

Why do you guys keep trying to make this a contest? All I said is that I've seen a few racist blacks here.

 

[Faun]

David Duke only represents the overt white racist. He doesn't represent the silent covert racists that are far more in number in the white community.

If they're silent, how do you know they are?

That's easy, note the ones that are silent when someone here posts something racist towards blacks, be it they are referred to as "turd colored" or "needing bananas", then note the same ones that are outspoken when someone like IM2 speaks about racism. The excuse "I didn't see it, or read it" is a tired/worn out bullshit excuse. Like here....

A Jungle Bunny Is Not the Easter Bunny

By "racism," you mean Realism or Adultism, as opposed to your warm and fuzzy Kumbaya cartoon fantasies. By using vulgar terms, we get even for your insulting pejorative use of "racism."

How many here responded that jungle bunny is a racist term? Now imagine the pages of responses had someone used a derogatory term towards whites.

qui tacet consentire videtur

It goes both ways. I've never seen any blacks speak up when a black person here posts something blatantly racist. And I've seen a lot. One poster in particular comes to mind but I won't name this person.

Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason.

Having said that, most of the people I know are conservatives and Republicans and are nothing like this. And the reason a lot of conservatives are silent most of the time is because they are simply not vocal by nature and for them, race is not an issue. By that I don't mean that they don't recognize that there is a racial divide in this country, they do. They just feel that addressing, say, inner city poverty and crime, will be better vanquished with long term economic solutions as opposed to more social initiatives and programs.

Almost all the virulent racists on this forum are conservatives. There are a couple on the left, including that black poster you’re talking about.

Why do you guys keep trying to make this a contest? All I said is that I've seen a few racist blacks here.

Evause there are folks who try to equate racism on the left with racism on the right, though it is far more prevalent on the right.

 

[ATL]

It does not go both ways. You've see nothing blatantly racist from backs here.[/QUOTE}

Oh yes I have. I've seen the words "******", "white boy", "cracker" and other derogatory terms here more times than I can count.

Talking about how whites are still racist is not blatant racism.

I never suggested otherwise.

Actually inner city poverty and crime must be addressed by both economic solutions and long term economic development. But the problem with white conservatives is they, like you, talk only about "inner city" problems, when whites have greater crime, and entire counties in poverty.

Take it easy there Lumpy, this is not a contest to see who has more crime. I merely brought up inner city problems as an example. Also, you don't know me well enough to say that I only talk about inner city problems.

You've seen nothing blatantly racist from blacks.

Yes, I have. I know blatant racism when I see it and I've seen it here from blacks as well as from whites.

This may be an uncomfortable truth for you but there are racist blacks out there, even if there are none here on the forum.

What you saw was responses to being called monkeys, chimps, apes, niggas, coons, how all blacks are dumb, how we are violent and almost every other racist comment that can be made. Just the other day I was told to eat a banana, that is not the first time that person made such a comment.

Racism is not the cure for racism. I'm not defending or excusing those clowns who use terms like "coon" or "ape", I'm just saying that throwing back terms like "cracker" is not a solution to racism and doesn't help matters.

You mentioned inner city problems without mentioning rural and suburban problems such as inner city poverty.

Correct. The example was in the context of how conservatives view blacks and black problems such as drug use, gangs and fatherless homes. Remember? The question in the OP was not why whites should be Republican. Any idiot knows there are drug problems in rural and suburban areas such as the current heroin epidemic and high meth use. But that has nothing to do with the relationship between blacks and Republicans which is what this thread is about.

You are trying to compare ****** with coon or nigga?

Are you saying that "******" and "cracker" are terms of endearment? Would you be any less offended if one of these clowns called you "blackie"? A racist term is a racist term and comes from a racist mentality so it would be pointless to compare them.

As I said before, this is not a contest to see who has more racists, blacks or whites. All I did was try to clarify how conservatives approach the issue of race.

All you have shown is that conservatives worry about imaginary black racists, while ignoring white racists sharing their company and thanking their posts. Which is exactly why blacks avoid the GOP.

I had a black guy spit on me once. If I spit on you, would you say that was imaginary?

As I told IM2, if you don't want to be a Republican then don't. It's pointless to tell us you don't want to be one and you're not hurting my feelings by telling me.

Yea, because you are full of shit. Either you willfully ignore the racism from conservatives here, or your computer automatically blocks racist posts from cons, which is it?

Did you see this thread...Black "man" demands FREE COFFEE from Starbucks for reparations or is that one you “conveniently” overlooked?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

If they're silent, how do you know they are?

That's easy, note the ones that are silent when someone here posts something racist towards blacks, be it they are referred to as "turd colored" or "needing bananas", then note the same ones that are outspoken when someone like IM2 speaks about racism. The excuse "I didn't see it, or read it" is a tired/worn out bullshit excuse. Like here....

A Jungle Bunny Is Not the Easter Bunny

By "racism," you mean Realism or Adultism, as opposed to your warm and fuzzy Kumbaya cartoon fantasies. By using vulgar terms, we get even for your insulting pejorative use of "racism."

How many here responded that jungle bunny is a racist term? Now imagine the pages of responses had someone used a derogatory term towards whites.

qui tacet consentire videtur

It goes both ways. I've never seen any blacks speak up when a black person here posts something blatantly racist. And I've seen a lot. One poster in particular comes to mind but I won't name this person.

Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason.

Having said that, most of the people I know are conservatives and Republicans and are nothing like this. And the reason a lot of conservatives are silent most of the time is because they are simply not vocal by nature and for them, race is not an issue. By that I don't mean that they don't recognize that there is a racial divide in this country, they do. They just feel that addressing, say, inner city poverty and crime, will be better vanquished with long term economic solutions as opposed to more social initiatives and programs.

Almost all the virulent racists on this forum are conservatives. There are a couple on the left, including that black poster you’re talking about.

Why do you guys keep trying to make this a contest? All I said is that I've seen a few racist blacks here.

Evause there are folks who try to equate racism on the left with racism on the right, though it is far more prevalent on the right.

Racism is racism no matter what color you are or how it is manifested or even how prevalent it is in one side or the other.

I didn't start this nonsense about how racist one side is over the other. All I did in my initial post was try to clarify how the typical conservative approaches the issue of race and how to deal with problems. And all I've said since then is that there are black racists. The reactions to my responses have been quite telling.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

I never suggested otherwise.

Take it easy there Lumpy, this is not a contest to see who has more crime. I merely brought up inner city problems as an example. Also, you don't know me well enough to say that I only talk about inner city problems.

You've seen nothing blatantly racist from blacks.

Yes, I have. I know blatant racism when I see it and I've seen it here from blacks as well as from whites.

This may be an uncomfortable truth for you but there are racist blacks out there, even if there are none here on the forum.

What you saw was responses to being called monkeys, chimps, apes, niggas, coons, how all blacks are dumb, how we are violent and almost every other racist comment that can be made. Just the other day I was told to eat a banana, that is not the first time that person made such a comment.

Racism is not the cure for racism. I'm not defending or excusing those clowns who use terms like "coon" or "ape", I'm just saying that throwing back terms like "cracker" is not a solution to racism and doesn't help matters.

You mentioned inner city problems without mentioning rural and suburban problems such as inner city poverty.

Correct. The example was in the context of how conservatives view blacks and black problems such as drug use, gangs and fatherless homes. Remember? The question in the OP was not why whites should be Republican. Any idiot knows there are drug problems in rural and suburban areas such as the current heroin epidemic and high meth use. But that has nothing to do with the relationship between blacks and Republicans which is what this thread is about.

You are trying to compare ****** with coon or nigga?

Are you saying that "******" and "cracker" are terms of endearment? Would you be any less offended if one of these clowns called you "blackie"? A racist term is a racist term and comes from a racist mentality so it would be pointless to compare them.

As I said before, this is not a contest to see who has more racists, blacks or whites. All I did was try to clarify how conservatives approach the issue of race.

All you have shown is that conservatives worry about imaginary black racists, while ignoring white racists sharing their company and thanking their posts. Which is exactly why blacks avoid the GOP.

I had a black guy spit on me once. If I spit on you, would you say that was imaginary?

As I told IM2, if you don't want to be a Republican then don't. It's pointless to tell us you don't want to be one and you're not hurting my feelings by telling me.

Yea, because you are full of shit. Either you willfully ignore the racism from conservatives here, or your computer automatically blocks racist posts from cons, which is it?

Did you see this thread...Black "man" demands FREE COFFEE from Starbucks for reparations or is that one you “conveniently” overlooked?

Do you remember when I told you this in post #28?:

"Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason."

You started this, not me. All I did in my initial post was try to explain conservative views to you and the OP.

And are you going to answer the question?: If I spit on you would you say my racism is imaginary?

 

[ATL]

You've seen nothing blatantly racist from blacks.

Yes, I have. I know blatant racism when I see it and I've seen it here from blacks as well as from whites.

This may be an uncomfortable truth for you but there are racist blacks out there, even if there are none here on the forum.

What you saw was responses to being called monkeys, chimps, apes, niggas, coons, how all blacks are dumb, how we are violent and almost every other racist comment that can be made. Just the other day I was told to eat a banana, that is not the first time that person made such a comment.

Racism is not the cure for racism. I'm not defending or excusing those clowns who use terms like "coon" or "ape", I'm just saying that throwing back terms like "cracker" is not a solution to racism and doesn't help matters.

You mentioned inner city problems without mentioning rural and suburban problems such as inner city poverty.

Correct. The example was in the context of how conservatives view blacks and black problems such as drug use, gangs and fatherless homes. Remember? The question in the OP was not why whites should be Republican. Any idiot knows there are drug problems in rural and suburban areas such as the current heroin epidemic and high meth use. But that has nothing to do with the relationship between blacks and Republicans which is what this thread is about.

You are trying to compare ****** with coon or nigga?

Are you saying that "******" and "cracker" are terms of endearment? Would you be any less offended if one of these clowns called you "blackie"? A racist term is a racist term and comes from a racist mentality so it would be pointless to compare them.

As I said before, this is not a contest to see who has more racists, blacks or whites. All I did was try to clarify how conservatives approach the issue of race.

All you have shown is that conservatives worry about imaginary black racists, while ignoring white racists sharing their company and thanking their posts. Which is exactly why blacks avoid the GOP.

I had a black guy spit on me once. If I spit on you, would you say that was imaginary?

As I told IM2, if you don't want to be a Republican then don't. It's pointless to tell us you don't want to be one and you're not hurting my feelings by telling me.

Yea, because you are full of shit. Either you willfully ignore the racism from conservatives here, or your computer automatically blocks racist posts from cons, which is it?

Did you see this thread...Black "man" demands FREE COFFEE from Starbucks for reparations or is that one you “conveniently” overlooked?

Do you remember when I told you this in post #28?:

"Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason."

You started this, not me. All I did in my initial post was try to explain conservative views to you and the OP.

And are you going to answer the question?: If I spit on you would you say my racism is imaginary?

It doesn’t matter what you said previously, the simple fact that you say you choose to address racism on one side, while admitting that you ignore the other side, just shows you are ok with it.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Yes, I have. I know blatant racism when I see it and I've seen it here from blacks as well as from whites.

This may be an uncomfortable truth for you but there are racist blacks out there, even if there are none here on the forum.

Racism is not the cure for racism. I'm not defending or excusing those clowns who use terms like "coon" or "ape", I'm just saying that throwing back terms like "cracker" is not a solution to racism and doesn't help matters.

Correct. The example was in the context of how conservatives view blacks and black problems such as drug use, gangs and fatherless homes. Remember? The question in the OP was not why whites should be Republican. Any idiot knows there are drug problems in rural and suburban areas such as the current heroin epidemic and high meth use. But that has nothing to do with the relationship between blacks and Republicans which is what this thread is about.

Are you saying that "******" and "cracker" are terms of endearment? Would you be any less offended if one of these clowns called you "blackie"? A racist term is a racist term and comes from a racist mentality so it would be pointless to compare them.

As I said before, this is not a contest to see who has more racists, blacks or whites. All I did was try to clarify how conservatives approach the issue of race.

All you have shown is that conservatives worry about imaginary black racists, while ignoring white racists sharing their company and thanking their posts. Which is exactly why blacks avoid the GOP.

I had a black guy spit on me once. If I spit on you, would you say that was imaginary?

As I told IM2, if you don't want to be a Republican then don't. It's pointless to tell us you don't want to be one and you're not hurting my feelings by telling me.

Yea, because you are full of shit. Either you willfully ignore the racism from conservatives here, or your computer automatically blocks racist posts from cons, which is it?

Did you see this thread...Black "man" demands FREE COFFEE from Starbucks for reparations or is that one you “conveniently” overlooked?

Do you remember when I told you this in post #28?:

"Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason."

You started this, not me. All I did in my initial post was try to explain conservative views to you and the OP.

And are you going to answer the question?: If I spit on you would you say my racism is imaginary?

It doesn’t matter what you said previously, the simple fact that you say you choose to address racism on one side, while admitting that you ignore the other side, just shows you are ok with it.

Whatever problem you may have with other conservatives ignoring racist remarks is not my problem. In my very first response to you I told you in plain English that I ignore both black and white racists here. But you couldn't let it go and you've blown the whole thing out of proportion.

As I said, you started this. You are the one who brought up conservatives ignoring racist remarks and all I did was say that I've seen the same thing with blacks. After that you were off to the races (no pun intended) trying to disabuse me of the silly notion that there are racist blacks.

Another try with the question: If I spit on you would you say my racism is imaginary

 

[GreenBean]

I would like a logical explanation from one of you white republicans as to why blacks should join your party. Please do not regurgitate the lame story about the 1860 democratic party. After all, every time we blacks talk about what occurred during that time none of you were there. The history of things were not important to you in this regard, so since you weren't around in 1860 and history is not important you in other situations, it's not important now. So please explain why blacks should join the republican party.

The question should be why would anyone - Black, White and all shades in between who has any ambition for themselves as well as their offspring want to even associate themselves with the American Communist Party aka Democrats. As for Blacks ... They have been voting Democratic since the 60s - the Democrats promise to lift them away from poverty - problem is they're still poor !!! They're still Slaves and always will be so long as they support this disgusting EVIL Democratis Party machine.

Even the infamous Malcolm X saw that the Democratic Party used African Americans to suit their own agenda and failed to address the community's living standards or job situations but Blacks still voted Democratic.

The Democratic party has come to the realization that you can actually enslave an entire race of people and not call it slavery? 'Liberal' Democrats and their useful idiot lapdogs have reintroduced slavery to the African American Community through so called social welfare programs.
View attachment 188692

Democratic Parties Racist History

More of the same old dumb ass white racist republican propaganda.

Says the moron that can't refute a single point.

Really?

Prove when racism ended .....

I've repeatedly shown that racism today is primarily about discriminating in favor of blacks, mandated by federal law.

Tucker Carson did an eye opening piece related to what you are referring to this evening. It highlights college entrance exams and how American Universities are accepting inordinate numbers of FOREIGN BORN black people, those from wealthy Nigerian, Ethiopian, Sudanese and so forth families in order to fall within parameters of having acceptable levels of Black students - who suffers ! And who gets the short end of the stick --- The African American - Screwed Again !

 

[IM2]

The question should be why would anyone - Black, White and all shades in between who has any ambition for themselves as well as their offspring want to even associate themselves with the American Communist Party aka Democrats. As for Blacks ... They have been voting Democratic since the 60s - the Democrats promise to lift them away from poverty - problem is they're still poor !!! They're still Slaves and always will be so long as they support this disgusting EVIL Democratis Party machine.

Even the infamous Malcolm X saw that the Democratic Party used African Americans to suit their own agenda and failed to address the community's living standards or job situations but Blacks still voted Democratic.

The Democratic party has come to the realization that you can actually enslave an entire race of people and not call it slavery? 'Liberal' Democrats and their useful idiot lapdogs have reintroduced slavery to the African American Community through so called social welfare programs.
View attachment 188692

Democratic Parties Racist History

More of the same old dumb ass white racist republican propaganda.

Says the moron that can't refute a single point.

Really?

Prove when racism ended .....

I've repeatedly shown that racism today is primarily about discriminating in favor of blacks, mandated by federal law.

Tucker Carson did an eye opening piece related to what you are referring to this evening. It highlights college entrance exams and how American Universities are accepting inordinate numbers of FOREIGN BORN black people, those from wealthy Nigerian, Ethiopian, Sudanese and so forth families in order to fall within parameters of having acceptable levels of Black students - who suffers ! And who gets the short end of the stick --- The African American - Screwed Again !

Tucker Carlson? The king of disingenuous and fake news. LOL!

 

[IM2]

That's easy, note the ones that are silent when someone here posts something racist towards blacks, be it they are referred to as "turd colored" or "needing bananas", then note the same ones that are outspoken when someone like IM2 speaks about racism. The excuse "I didn't see it, or read it" is a tired/worn out bullshit excuse. Like here....

How many here responded that jungle bunny is a racist term? Now imagine the pages of responses had someone used a derogatory term towards whites.

qui tacet consentire videtur

It goes both ways. I've never seen any blacks speak up when a black person here posts something blatantly racist. And I've seen a lot. One poster in particular comes to mind but I won't name this person.

Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason.

Having said that, most of the people I know are conservatives and Republicans and are nothing like this. And the reason a lot of conservatives are silent most of the time is because they are simply not vocal by nature and for them, race is not an issue. By that I don't mean that they don't recognize that there is a racial divide in this country, they do. They just feel that addressing, say, inner city poverty and crime, will be better vanquished with long term economic solutions as opposed to more social initiatives and programs.

Almost all the virulent racists on this forum are conservatives. There are a couple on the left, including that black poster you’re talking about.

Why do you guys keep trying to make this a contest? All I said is that I've seen a few racist blacks here.

Evause there are folks who try to equate racism on the left with racism on the right, though it is far more prevalent on the right.

Racism is racism no matter what color you are or how it is manifested or even how prevalent it is in one side or the other.

I didn't start this nonsense about how racist one side is over the other. All I did in my initial post was try to clarify how the typical conservative approaches the issue of race and how to deal with problems. And all I've said since then is that there are black racists. The reactions to my responses have been quite telling.

Drop the claim of racism is racism. Because all “racism” is not racism. Understand that victims of racism will struggle with this abuse for the rest of their lives just as much as victims of other forms of abuse do. Then understand that because you don’t see racism as it was practiced in the past means it’s not being practiced now.

Let me explain how I can say not all that is called racism is racism. I can more easily speak from the black experience so do not interpret this to mean I don’t care about others who have endured the same thing. It’s all wrong. Yet I believe that we need to differentiate between racism and prejudice. Black racism doesn't exist. Black prejudice yes. Understand the difference. Prejudice is wrong but then again a lot of black prejudice is based upon what whites have done to us, meaning our prejudice is based on a mistrust of white people. For anyone white to pretend that it is not justified is plain ignorance.

Racism is more than making comments. It is more than an assumption of people based on skin color. Racism includes the ability to make your prejudice enforceable. Whites need to understand they have a history full of racial slurs turning into laws. Whites have a minimum 241 continuous years of comments that have been derogatory towards blacks. A minimum of 188 of those years these beliefs were overtly turned into law and enforced. Now it's done covertly. Let's not have amnesia as white people and not understand that you have this history. Whites must recognize this because it's one way to fix the damages caused by such racism and to bring the people of this nation closer together.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Because Republicans let you think for yourself, they don't try to tell you what to do or think.

So do Democrats.

Ask any prominent black Republican how much democrats let black men think for themselves. Clarence Thomas Congress to mind.

When Colin Powell decided to think for himself what did republicans do?

Oh snap, that was brutal.

It's time to shut people up.

G'luck w'dat witchur dumbass.

 

[IM2]

You've seen nothing blatantly racist from blacks.

Yes, I have. I know blatant racism when I see it and I've seen it here from blacks as well as from whites.

This may be an uncomfortable truth for you but there are racist blacks out there, even if there are none here on the forum.

What you saw was responses to being called monkeys, chimps, apes, niggas, coons, how all blacks are dumb, how we are violent and almost every other racist comment that can be made. Just the other day I was told to eat a banana, that is not the first time that person made such a comment.

Racism is not the cure for racism. I'm not defending or excusing those clowns who use terms like "coon" or "ape", I'm just saying that throwing back terms like "cracker" is not a solution to racism and doesn't help matters.

You mentioned inner city problems without mentioning rural and suburban problems such as inner city poverty.

Correct. The example was in the context of how conservatives view blacks and black problems such as drug use, gangs and fatherless homes. Remember? The question in the OP was not why whites should be Republican. Any idiot knows there are drug problems in rural and suburban areas such as the current heroin epidemic and high meth use. But that has nothing to do with the relationship between blacks and Republicans which is what this thread is about.

You are trying to compare ****** with coon or nigga?

Are you saying that "******" and "cracker" are terms of endearment? Would you be any less offended if one of these clowns called you "blackie"? A racist term is a racist term and comes from a racist mentality so it would be pointless to compare them.

As I said before, this is not a contest to see who has more racists, blacks or whites. All I did was try to clarify how conservatives approach the issue of race.

All you have shown is that conservatives worry about imaginary black racists, while ignoring white racists sharing their company and thanking their posts. Which is exactly why blacks avoid the GOP.

I had a black guy spit on me once. If I spit on you, would you say that was imaginary?

As I told IM2, if you don't want to be a Republican then don't. It's pointless to tell us you don't want to be one and you're not hurting my feelings by telling me.

Yea, because you are full of shit. Either you willfully ignore the racism from conservatives here, or your computer automatically blocks racist posts from cons, which is it?

Did you see this thread...Black "man" demands FREE COFFEE from Starbucks for reparations or is that one you “conveniently” overlooked?

Do you remember when I told you this in post #28?:

"Anyway, I've seen a lot of the white racist insults and rhetoric here but I don't bother to address that because one who is so openly and unabashedly racist will not be swayed by anything I have to say. For the most part I don't engage with the openly black racists for the same reason."

You started this, not me. All I did in my initial post was try to explain conservative views to you and the OP.

And are you going to answer the question?: If I spit on you would you say my racism is imaginary?

You did say that you don't address the blatant racists because in your opinion (paraphrased) they can't be changed so you don't try.