Why Real Christians Cannot Support Trump

[Grizz]

I agree there is nothing militating for sincere Christians to support Trump. The "anti-Christ" allegation in the OP, however, is going a step too far.

Oh Really? Proof Trump is the Anti-Christ. This is compelling proof. The anti-Christ may include Trump and his supporters and the whole ungodly thing.

There are too many 666 connections for it to be a coincidence. It's chilling!

Trump is the "anti-Christ", oh my.

 

[blackhawk]

So who gets to decide who is and is not a true Christian? I think it's safe to say no one this board is qualified to make that call.

 

[MrFritz]

Trump is God's right hand which goddamn that sucks for you libs.

False Christians unknowingly worship Satan.

Satan Remains Most Prominent GOP Official Supporting Trump ...

 

[Grizz]

So who gets to decide who is and is not a true Christian? I think it's safe to say no one this board is qualified to make that call.

Why Fritz of course, just ask him.

 

[MrFritz]

So who gets to decide who is and is not a true Christian? I think it's safe to say no one this board is qualified to make that call.

It's not a matter of deciding. The righteous know who the the agents of the anti-Christ are. The criteria is simple. If they don't act in a Christlike manner then they are working for Satan.

 

[MrFritz]

So who gets to decide who is and is not a true Christian? I think it's safe to say no one this board is qualified to make that call.

Why Fritz of course, just ask him.

Correct! I and other True Christians can easily detect the Anti-Christ.

 

[Grizz]

So who gets to decide who is and is not a true Christian? I think it's safe to say no one this board is qualified to make that call.

It's not a matter of deciding. The righteous know who the the agents of the anti-Christ are. The criteria is simple. If they don't act in a Christlike manner then they are working for Satan.

You do realize that you've committed the ultimate sin don't you?
You sit as judge and jury as to what a "real Christian" is.
You've made it clear that only YOU can say what real "scripture is......

You've committed Satan's sin.....wanting to be as the "Most High".

 

[320 Years of History]

Nero was one of the anti Christs and his number was 666.

Oh, Lord. Now there is not an anti-Christ, but rather several of them, yet:

According to the Bible, the Antichrist will be....

Let's see if this narrative gets any better....Maybe someone will make a movie out of it?

 

[MrFritz]

So who gets to decide who is and is not a true Christian? I think it's safe to say no one this board is qualified to make that call.

It's not a matter of deciding. The righteous know who the the agents of the anti-Christ are. The criteria is simple. If they don't act in a Christlike manner then they are working for Satan.

You do realize that you've committed the ultimate sin don't you?
You sit as judge and jury as to what a "real Christian" is.
You've made it clear that only YOU can say what real "scripture is......

You've committed Satan's sin.....wanting to be as the "Most High".

Back that up with scripture Satan.

I point out the obvious. That is not a judgement Satan. God has the final judgement.

What is an Anti-Christ?
The word “anti” means to be opposed to or to be the opposite of. You could say that anything that has the prefix “anti” on it is against what it is attached to. The word “anti” literally means to be opposed too. Like the word antibacterial means that the substance attacks bacteria or is against bacteria. So the anti-Christ attacks anything about Christ; His message, His person, His character. There are many anti-Christ’s out there today and there always have been since the time of Christ on earth. This is nothing new today. The fact that there are anti-Christ’s, lower-case “a”, has nothing to do with the Anti-Christ, upper-case “A.” There are many anti-Christs but there is only oneAnti-Christ.

EXTREMELY CHARISMATIC
I imagine that the Antichrist is going to be an extremely charismatic leader. I imagine the Antichrist will be capable of exciting large crowds of people, be able to persuade many people to become very loyal followers of his, and be able to persuade various world leaders to support his ideas.

(3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)

A PROBLEM SOLVER
The Antichrist to begin his rise to prominence as a person who addresses some of the world’s major problems through diplomacy. In fact, I think the Antichrist is the rider of the white horse in Revelation 6:2.

EXTREMELY ARROGANT
After considering 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 it is fairly obvious that the Antichrist will have a gigantic ego since he will have the audacity to claim that he is God and will demand the world to worship him. Daniel 11:36 and Daniel 8:25 also confirm that Antichrist will likely be the most arrogant person of all time.

RUTHLESS BEHIND THE SCENES
The Antichrist will not be benevolent towards others behind the scenes. Daniel 8:23 indicates that the Antichrist will be a “king of fierce countenance” which to me suggests that he will rule in a very harsh manner.

Causes Earth’s Armies to Fight Against Christ
The Anti-Christ makes an unwise decision, showing that pride comes before the fall.and what a great fall this is. John records that he “saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army“(Rev 19:19). He is so deluded by power and by pride that he actually believes that he can even defeat Jesus Christ but he sorely miscalculates (Rev 19:20-21). Power not only corrupts but it also blinds a person to logic and common sense. What makes this man think that he can destroy God Almighty in the Person of Jesus Christ!?

 

[MrFritz]

Nero was one of the anti Christs and his number was 666.

Oh, Lord. Now there is not an anti-Christ, but rather several of them, yet:

According to the Bible, the Antichrist will be....

Let's see if this narrative gets any better....Maybe someone will make a movie out of it?

What is an Anti-Christ?
The word “anti” means to be opposed to or to be the opposite of. You could say that anything that has the prefix “anti” on it is against what it is attached to. The word “anti” literally means to be opposed too. Like the word antibacterial means that the substance attacks bacteria or is against bacteria. So the anti-Christ attacks anything about Christ; His message, His person, His character. There are many anti-Christ’s out there today and there always have been since the time of Christ on earth. This is nothing new today. The fact that there are anti-Christ’s, lower-case “a”, has nothing to do with the Anti-Christ, upper-case “A.” There are many anti-Christs but there is only one Anti-Christ.

 

[Grizz]

So who gets to decide who is and is not a true Christian? I think it's safe to say no one this board is qualified to make that call.

It's not a matter of deciding. The righteous know who the the agents of the anti-Christ are. The criteria is simple. If they don't act in a Christlike manner then they are working for Satan.

You do realize that you've committed the ultimate sin don't you?
You sit as judge and jury as to what a "real Christian" is.
You've made it clear that only YOU can say what real "scripture is......

You've committed Satan's sin.....wanting to be as the "Most High".

Back that up with scripture Satan.

I point out the obvious. That is not a judgement Satan. God has the final judgement.

What is an Anti-Christ?
The word “anti” means to be opposed to or to be the opposite of. You could say that anything that has the prefix “anti” on it is against what it is attached to. The word “anti” literally means to be opposed too. Like the word antibacterial means that the substance attacks bacteria or is against bacteria. So the anti-Christ attacks anything about Christ; His message, His person, His character. There are many anti-Christ’s out there today and there always have been since the time of Christ on earth. This is nothing new today. The fact that there are anti-Christ’s, lower-case “a”, has nothing to do with the Anti-Christ, upper-case “A.” There are many anti-Christs but there is only oneAnti-Christ.

EXTREMELY CHARISMATIC
I imagine that the Antichrist is going to be an extremely charismatic leader. I imagine the Antichrist will be capable of exciting large crowds of people, be able to persuade many people to become very loyal followers of his, and be able to persuade various world leaders to support his ideas.

(3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)

A PROBLEM SOLVER
The Antichrist to begin his rise to prominence as a person who addresses some of the world’s major problems through diplomacy. In fact, I think the Antichrist is the rider of the white horse in Revelation 6:2.

EXTREMELY ARROGANT
After considering 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 it is fairly obvious that the Antichrist will have a gigantic ego since he will have the audacity to claim that he is God and will demand the world to worship him. Daniel 11:36 and Daniel 8:25 also confirm that Antichrist will likely be the most arrogant person of all time.

RUTHLESS BEHIND THE SCENES
The Antichrist will not be benevolent towards others behind the scenes. Daniel 8:23 indicates that the Antichrist will be a “king of fierce countenance” which to me suggests that he will rule in a very harsh manner.

Causes Earth’s Armies to Fight Against Christ
The Anti-Christ makes an unwise decision, showing that pride comes before the fall.and what a great fall this is. John records that he “saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army“(Rev 19:19). He is so deluded by power and by pride that he actually believes that he can even defeat Jesus Christ but he sorely miscalculates (Rev 19:20-21). Power not only corrupts but it also blinds a person to logic and common sense. What makes this man think that he can destroy God Almighty in the Person of Jesus Christ!?

Pick your version chump.

"King James Version
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Darby Bible Translation
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High:

World English Bible
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds! I will make myself like the Most High!"

Young's Literal Translation
I go up above the heights of a thick cloud, I am like to the Most High."

Isaiah 14:14 KJV: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

You are an anti-Christ kid.

 

[320 Years of History]

Nero was one of the anti Christs and his number was 666.

Oh, Lord. Now there is not an anti-Christ, but rather several of them, yet:

According to the Bible, the Antichrist will be....

Let's see if this narrative gets any better....Maybe someone will make a movie out of it?

What is an Anti-Christ?
The word “anti” means to be opposed to or to be the opposite of. You could say that anything that has the prefix “anti” on it is against what it is attached to. The word “anti” literally means to be opposed too. Like the word antibacterial means that the substance attacks bacteria or is against bacteria. So the anti-Christ attacks anything about Christ; His message, His person, His character. There are many anti-Christ’s out there today and there always have been since the time of Christ on earth. This is nothing new today. The fact that there are anti-Christ’s, lower-case “a”, has nothing to do with the Anti-Christ, upper-case “A.” There are many anti-Christs but there is only one Anti-Christ.

Okay...I'll pay closer attention to capitalization going forward. TY for the clarification. Should I also apply meaning to the presence or absence of the hyphen (see "red" text)? I just want to make sure I know how to construe what I'm reading from you.

 

[Grizz]

Fritz himself is an anti-christ.
He will tell you which "scriptures" are real, and which ones aren't.
He will tell you who is a "real" believer and who isn't.
In short, he is like God.

 

[MrFritz]

So who gets to decide who is and is not a true Christian? I think it's safe to say no one this board is qualified to make that call.

It's not a matter of deciding. The righteous know who the the agents of the anti-Christ are. The criteria is simple. If they don't act in a Christlike manner then they are working for Satan.

You do realize that you've committed the ultimate sin don't you?
You sit as judge and jury as to what a "real Christian" is.
You've made it clear that only YOU can say what real "scripture is......

You've committed Satan's sin.....wanting to be as the "Most High".

Back that up with scripture Satan.

I point out the obvious. That is not a judgement Satan. God has the final judgement.

What is an Anti-Christ?
The word “anti” means to be opposed to or to be the opposite of. You could say that anything that has the prefix “anti” on it is against what it is attached to. The word “anti” literally means to be opposed too. Like the word antibacterial means that the substance attacks bacteria or is against bacteria. So the anti-Christ attacks anything about Christ; His message, His person, His character. There are many anti-Christ’s out there today and there always have been since the time of Christ on earth. This is nothing new today. The fact that there are anti-Christ’s, lower-case “a”, has nothing to do with the Anti-Christ, upper-case “A.” There are many anti-Christs but there is only oneAnti-Christ.

EXTREMELY CHARISMATIC
I imagine that the Antichrist is going to be an extremely charismatic leader. I imagine the Antichrist will be capable of exciting large crowds of people, be able to persuade many people to become very loyal followers of his, and be able to persuade various world leaders to support his ideas.

(3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)

A PROBLEM SOLVER
The Antichrist to begin his rise to prominence as a person who addresses some of the world’s major problems through diplomacy. In fact, I think the Antichrist is the rider of the white horse in Revelation 6:2.

EXTREMELY ARROGANT
After considering 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 it is fairly obvious that the Antichrist will have a gigantic ego since he will have the audacity to claim that he is God and will demand the world to worship him. Daniel 11:36 and Daniel 8:25 also confirm that Antichrist will likely be the most arrogant person of all time.

RUTHLESS BEHIND THE SCENES
The Antichrist will not be benevolent towards others behind the scenes. Daniel 8:23 indicates that the Antichrist will be a “king of fierce countenance” which to me suggests that he will rule in a very harsh manner.

Causes Earth’s Armies to Fight Against Christ
The Anti-Christ makes an unwise decision, showing that pride comes before the fall.and what a great fall this is. John records that he “saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army“(Rev 19:19). He is so deluded by power and by pride that he actually believes that he can even defeat Jesus Christ but he sorely miscalculates (Rev 19:20-21). Power not only corrupts but it also blinds a person to logic and common sense. What makes this man think that he can destroy God Almighty in the Person of Jesus Christ!?

Pick your version chump.

"King James Version
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Darby Bible Translation
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High:

World English Bible
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds! I will make myself like the Most High!"

Young's Literal Translation
I go up above the heights of a thick cloud, I am like to the Most High."

Isaiah 14:14 KJV: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

You are an anti-Christ kid.

That verse refers to the triumphant exultation over Babel.

You subtrafuge is not working Satan.

 

[MrFritz]

Nero was one of the anti Christs and his number was 666.

Oh, Lord. Now there is not an anti-Christ, but rather several of them, yet:

According to the Bible, the Antichrist will be....

Let's see if this narrative gets any better....Maybe someone will make a movie out of it?

What is an Anti-Christ?
The word “anti” means to be opposed to or to be the opposite of. You could say that anything that has the prefix “anti” on it is against what it is attached to. The word “anti” literally means to be opposed too. Like the word antibacterial means that the substance attacks bacteria or is against bacteria. So the anti-Christ attacks anything about Christ; His message, His person, His character. There are many anti-Christ’s out there today and there always have been since the time of Christ on earth. This is nothing new today. The fact that there are anti-Christ’s, lower-case “a”, has nothing to do with the Anti-Christ, upper-case “A.” There are many anti-Christs but there is only one Anti-Christ.

Okay...I'll pay closer attention to capitalization going forward. TY for the clarification. Should I also apply meaning to the presence or absence of the hyphen (see "red" text)? I just want to make sure I know how to construe what I'm reading from you.

It would be a whole lot better if you could simply be honest. Are you capable of that?

 

[blackhawk]

So who gets to decide who is and is not a true Christian? I think it's safe to say no one this board is qualified to make that call.

It's not a matter of deciding. The righteous know who the the agents of the anti-Christ are. The criteria is simple. If they don't act in a Christlike manner then they are working for Satan.

Sorry but who you vote for for President is not criteria for deciding who is Christlike filing this thread under partisan horseshit and heading back to the Indians/ Blue Jays game.

 

[Grizz]

So who gets to decide who is and is not a true Christian? I think it's safe to say no one this board is qualified to make that call.

It's not a matter of deciding. The righteous know who the the agents of the anti-Christ are. The criteria is simple. If they don't act in a Christlike manner then they are working for Satan.

You do realize that you've committed the ultimate sin don't you?
You sit as judge and jury as to what a "real Christian" is.
You've made it clear that only YOU can say what real "scripture is......

You've committed Satan's sin.....wanting to be as the "Most High".

Back that up with scripture Satan.

I point out the obvious. That is not a judgement Satan. God has the final judgement.

What is an Anti-Christ?
The word “anti” means to be opposed to or to be the opposite of. You could say that anything that has the prefix “anti” on it is against what it is attached to. The word “anti” literally means to be opposed too. Like the word antibacterial means that the substance attacks bacteria or is against bacteria. So the anti-Christ attacks anything about Christ; His message, His person, His character. There are many anti-Christ’s out there today and there always have been since the time of Christ on earth. This is nothing new today. The fact that there are anti-Christ’s, lower-case “a”, has nothing to do with the Anti-Christ, upper-case “A.” There are many anti-Christs but there is only oneAnti-Christ.

EXTREMELY CHARISMATIC
I imagine that the Antichrist is going to be an extremely charismatic leader. I imagine the Antichrist will be capable of exciting large crowds of people, be able to persuade many people to become very loyal followers of his, and be able to persuade various world leaders to support his ideas.

(3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)

A PROBLEM SOLVER
The Antichrist to begin his rise to prominence as a person who addresses some of the world’s major problems through diplomacy. In fact, I think the Antichrist is the rider of the white horse in Revelation 6:2.

EXTREMELY ARROGANT
After considering 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 it is fairly obvious that the Antichrist will have a gigantic ego since he will have the audacity to claim that he is God and will demand the world to worship him. Daniel 11:36 and Daniel 8:25 also confirm that Antichrist will likely be the most arrogant person of all time.

RUTHLESS BEHIND THE SCENES
The Antichrist will not be benevolent towards others behind the scenes. Daniel 8:23 indicates that the Antichrist will be a “king of fierce countenance” which to me suggests that he will rule in a very harsh manner.

Causes Earth’s Armies to Fight Against Christ
The Anti-Christ makes an unwise decision, showing that pride comes before the fall.and what a great fall this is. John records that he “saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army“(Rev 19:19). He is so deluded by power and by pride that he actually believes that he can even defeat Jesus Christ but he sorely miscalculates (Rev 19:20-21). Power not only corrupts but it also blinds a person to logic and common sense. What makes this man think that he can destroy God Almighty in the Person of Jesus Christ!?

Pick your version chump.

"King James Version
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Darby Bible Translation
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High:

World English Bible
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds! I will make myself like the Most High!"

Young's Literal Translation
I go up above the heights of a thick cloud, I am like to the Most High."

Isaiah 14:14 KJV: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

You are an anti-Christ kid.

That verse refers to the triumphant exultation over Babel.

You subtrafuge is not working Satan.

No, that verse reveals Satan's true sin, like he you set yourself up as God.
Babel was Satan working through fallen man to ascend unto the "Most High".
You are a Cultist, nothing more.

 

[MrFritz]

Fritz himself is an anti-christ.
He will tell you which "scriptures" are real, and which ones aren't.
He will tell you who is a "real" believer and who isn't.
In short, he is like God.

Stop lying Satan.

 

[Grizz]

Fritz himself is an anti-christ.
He will tell you which "scriptures" are real, and which ones aren't.
He will tell you who is a "real" believer and who isn't.
In short, he is like God.

Stop lying Satan.

Shall I prove it kid?

 

[Grizz]

The book of Revelation makes it clear (I do not actually believe a word of it) that the Anti-Christ will deceive practically every Christian in the world with his false message. While I believe the only thing that was revealed to St. John the divine was how awesome magic mushrooms are the message itself has value in that Christians do not need an earthly leader to point them to the righteous path, that was already done 2000 years ago, they just need to quit looking for ways to justify Pride, Envy, Wrath, Gluttony, Lust, Sloth and Greed.

Even if Revelation is allegorical the warning of message still has truth. I am not of the belief that the Bible is inerrant. Even if the sacrifice on the cross is symbolic it holds a lesson and truth.

Professing to be a Christian does not make one a Christian. Christians are those of us who cherish truth, humility, diligence, humility, chastity, charity, and morals.

The John 3:16ers don't get it. God so loved the world does not mean the earth. The world John was referring to was the Christian world, in other words, those who were with Christ. There is a distinction between Christ and Jesus.

Jesus will separate the goats from the sheep.

"Accepting Jesus" is a sham by Satan. These born agains think they are saved and that explains why the Bible belt is so full of sin. They say that works won't get them to heaven and that faith alone will. It won't. We have to walk the walk.

Do people who don't consider themselves Christians go to heaven? Absolutely they do!

Heaven will have the religious and non-religious. I don't think there will be any liars and truth denier there unless they repent but there are some so wicked and prideful who have rejected the light and the way who are unfit for heaven. The Catholics call them mortal sinners. A mortal sin is sin that is committed when you know something is wrong but do it anyway. A good example of that is the chronic lying be members of the alt-right.

Here is Fritz telling us what scriptures are and what he thinks they really mean.

""Accepting Jesus""

Here he is saying that the "Gospels" are lying.