Why pence is okay with FEMA camps for immigrant kids

[playtime]

The best way for you and your children not to be in a "concentration camp" is not to be involved in the crime of unlawful entry. Problem solved.

seeking asylum is not a crime.

There are parameters for it otherwise its Fake but we know you love you some fake.

seeking asylum is not a crime & entering other than an official port of entry is a civil violation.

There are parameters for it and it’s not a function of simple desire.

it's not a c-r-i-m-e.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Leftists should give up creating one thread after another, all of them with made up horrors. We are not going to sympathize with invaders. The best way to deal with the underage invasionary force is to send them back to wherever they came from. Nothing the left can say would find any solution other than deportation acceptable.

 

[Likkmee]

What kind of parent, takes a kid on a dangerous trek across a desert with dangerous criminals?

A Catholick...with some beads and candles and mirrors and stuff

 

[miketx]

he isn't so much a Christian as he is a trumptian.

At least he's not a ****** like obama.

 

[Flash]

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uh-huh.... how did that pablum rw pundits taste as it was going down your gullet?

murder, gang violence, drug cartels, & systematic rape is not 'economic' & a majority of asylum cases are denied BUT they need to be processed.

You are still confused Moon Bat. No they don't. They need to be turned away. If it was up to me I would use military force and shoot a few of the shitheads.

This is an invasion of third world poverty to our country and we need to protect our sovereignty.

The only reason the filthy Democrats are bitching about border protection is because they want the taco queens to come here and vote Democrat. They saw how well it worked in California to turn a Republican state into a Democrat controlled shithole. They want model for the entire country. They don't care about the welfare cost or the crime or the drugs or anything. just Democrat voting political power to turn this country into a socialist shithole. That is why that asshole Democrat controlled House won't do a damn thing to stop the invasion.

 

[Leo123]

Food needs rain and the right weather conditions to grow.

It' obvious to me you didn't read the article yet you made a very stupid comment that is so simplistic that you make a fool of yourself to all of us who have read the article.

Global climate change is real and it's hitting nations closer to the equator worse and sooner than it is hitting those of us who are farther north.

If you had bothered to learn about global climate change this is exactly what was predicted would happen but you have been convinced climate change is a bunch of garbage.

Until people understand why they are coming, the problem will get worse.

If you want them to stop coming it's only logical to find out why then find a way to solve the problem.

Unfortunately you far right radical extremists aren't smart enough to understand that very simple concept.

"Guatemala was used for the production of annual or perennial crops, although almost two-thirds is suitable for crop or pasture use. Agriculture contributes about 23% to GDP, makes up 75% of export earnings, and employs 50% of the labor force."

"An agrarian reform law of 1952 provided for government expropriation of unused privately owned agricultural lands"

"The government requires plantation owners to set aside land for the raising of subsistence crops for their tenants. An agrarian credit bank provides loans to small farmers. Some of the land farmed by Amerindians is held in common by groups of families and is never sold."

Read more: Agriculture - Guatemala - export, area, crops, annual

Your link is somebody from the NYT's OPINION. Yet there you stand on your CC 'soapbox' yelling ignorant garbage. You want US to believe that NO WHERE ELSE in SA can grow food so you somehow rationalize people INVADING us by crashing our border. Pure stupidity.

 

[Dragonlady]

The best way for you and your children not to be in a "concentration camp" is not to be involved in the crime of unlawful entry. Problem solved.

seeking asylum is not a crime.

You are confused Moon Bat.

Sorry but the laws of the US do not allow for economic asylum. Just because you are poor and want to sign up for foodstamps and Obamacare subsidies and vote for filthy Democrats to get you even more free stuff don't mean you can legally come to the US.

When over 90% of the shitheads are denied asylum then they are blatantly breaking the law. If you want to apply for asylum then do it in your own country. Not after illegal entry at an illegal entry point. Don't bring your children to the scene of a crime.

**** Illegals.

You're the one who's confused. These people aren't seeking economic asylum. They're seeking asylum because of narco-terrorists and famine.

When you refer to asylum seekers as "shitiheads", you identify yourself as a total asshole. Trump is forcing these people to make an illegal entry by closing the illegal ports of entry. So he can tell fools like you they're crossing illegally.

They're running from the scene of the crime, with their children. Many of those who have been sent back have been killed.

 

[Dragonlady]

he isn't so much a Christian as he is a trumptian.

You people are so full of lies and evil.

Christians have been helping the people at the boarder the entire time. I myself have support with money, charities that help those at the boarder.

Tell me, you walking trash... what have you done?

By the way, it's your left-wing democraps that have prevented anything from being done to help those people.

Trump offered a solution, and you rejected it. It's up to Congress... YOUR congress... the allocate the funds from Planned Parent Hood, and move that money from killing babies, to helping children. You and your scum sucking trash in government, have chosen not to.

So don't complain about how other people don't care, when you are the least caring people on this planet. You people are not even human.

We are well aware that there are Christian groups helping at the border and God bless them for doing the work they do, but there are far more "for profit" prison companies running things than there are Christians and those people don't care. They get paid by the head - each refugee who comes in the door is money in their pockets, regardless of how well or badly they are cared for.

As for your donations, they shouldn't need to be used to provide basic necessities like toothbrushes, soap, blankets and diapers WHILE YOU'RE IN FEDERAL CUSTODY.

Furthermore, these children shouldn't be in custody in the first place. REFUGEES SHOULD NOT BE HELD IN CUSTODY, UNLESS THERE IS REASON TO BELIEVE THEY'RE DANGEROUS.

THIS IS ALL ON TRUMP. NOT ON THE DEMOCRATS, NOT ON ANYONE BUT TRUMP. HE'S THE GUY WHO ISSUED THE ORDERS, WHO HAS FIRED THOSE WHO REFUSE TO FOLLOW THEM, AND WHO HAS NO PROBLEM USING CHILDREN FOR BARGAINING CHIPS.

THIS IS ALL ON TRUMP.

 

[edward37]

he isn't so much a Christian as he is a trumptian.

You people are so full of lies and evil.

Christians have been helping the people at the boarder the entire time. I myself have support with money, charities that help those at the boarder.

Tell me, you walking trash... what have you done?

By the way, it's your left-wing democraps that have prevented anything from being done to help those people.

Trump offered a solution, and you rejected it. It's up to Congress... YOUR congress... the allocate the funds from Planned Parent Hood, and move that money from killing babies, to helping children. You and your scum sucking trash in government, have chosen not to.

So don't complain about how other people don't care, when you are the least caring people on this planet. You people are not even human.

Yes those trumpers worry about the embryo but screw the kids in concentration camps starving and dying HYPOCRITES and scum

 

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These people aren't seeking economic asylum..

Liar! Everyone of the shitheads will sign up for welfare the very second they can. That is what they are here for. They will live off the American taxpayer and will be rewarded for keeping the filthy Democrats in power. We see that model very well in Commie California.

 

[Leo123]

We are well aware that there are Christian groups helping at the border and God bless them for doing the work they do, but there are far more "for profit" prison companies running things than there are Christians and those people don't care. They get paid by the head - each refugee who comes in the door is money in their pockets, regardless of how well or badly they are cared for.

As for your donations, they shouldn't need to be used to provide basic necessities like toothbrushes, soap, blankets and diapers WHILE YOU'RE IN FEDERAL CUSTODY.

Furthermore, these children shouldn't be in custody in the first place. REFUGEES SHOULD NOT BE HELD IN CUSTODY, UNLESS THERE IS REASON TO BELIEVE THEY'RE DANGEROUS.

THIS IS ALL ON TRUMP. NOT ON THE DEMOCRATS, NOT ON ANYONE BUT TRUMP. HE'S THE GUY WHO ISSUED THE ORDERS, WHO HAS FIRED THOSE WHO REFUSE TO FOLLOW THEM, AND WHO HAS NO PROBLEM USING CHILDREN FOR BARGAINING CHIPS.

THIS IS ALL ON TRUMP.

That there in red....There are too many to vet in a timely manner to determine IF they are truly refugees in the 1st place. We can't just let anyone in the country with a pre-written refugee plea. Frankly, if most of them knew they'd have to live, eat and sleep for years barracks, they'd probably not come in the first place. You lefties don't give a shit about America or all the innocents slaughtered by illegal-alien criminals.

 

[edward37]

We are well aware that there are Christian groups helping at the border and God bless them for doing the work they do, but there are far more "for profit" prison companies running things than there are Christians and those people don't care. They get paid by the head - each refugee who comes in the door is money in their pockets, regardless of how well or badly they are cared for.

As for your donations, they shouldn't need to be used to provide basic necessities like toothbrushes, soap, blankets and diapers WHILE YOU'RE IN FEDERAL CUSTODY.

Furthermore, these children shouldn't be in custody in the first place. REFUGEES SHOULD NOT BE HELD IN CUSTODY, UNLESS THERE IS REASON TO BELIEVE THEY'RE DANGEROUS.

THIS IS ALL ON TRUMP. NOT ON THE DEMOCRATS, NOT ON ANYONE BUT TRUMP. HE'S THE GUY WHO ISSUED THE ORDERS, WHO HAS FIRED THOSE WHO REFUSE TO FOLLOW THEM, AND WHO HAS NO PROBLEM USING CHILDREN FOR BARGAINING CHIPS.

THIS IS ALL ON TRUMP.

That there in red....There are too many to vet in a timely manner to determine IF they are truly refugees in the 1st place. We can't just let anyone in the country with a pre-written refugee plea. Frankly, if most of them knew they'd have to live, eat and sleep for years barracks, they'd probably not come in the first place. You lefties don't give a shit about America or all the innocents slaughtered by illegal-alien criminals.

Tell us your concern of all those little babies in mothers stomachs and then your concern for all those in trumps concentration camps Repubs are HYPOCRITES

 

[WEATHER53]

The best way for you and your children not to be in a "concentration camp" is not to be involved in the crime of unlawful entry. Problem solved.

seeking asylum is not a crime.

There are parameters for it otherwise its Fake but we know you love you some fake.

seeking asylum is not a crime & entering other than an official port of entry is a civil violation.

There are parameters for it and it’s not a function of simple desire.

it's not a c-r-i-m-e.

You keep restating a fallacy. It is a crime when done outside of the permitted parameters.

 

[keepitreal]

What kind of parent, takes a kid on a dangerous trek across a desert with dangerous criminals?

when their 'home' is even more dangerous.

THEN THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE HAD KIDS

lol...love the fetus - hate the child.

don'tcha love them thar christian pro lifers & their 'every baby is precious & deserves to live' - when it really means is except after the cord is cut & just forget it if you are brown as well.
.

The fetus is a developing human,
whose life began inside the body at fertilization
and continues outside the womb until death

I’m pro responsibility

This has nothing to do with color
nor anything to do with being a Christian

 

[Correll]

So, if in your world, it is impossible for me to understand their motivations,


is it equally impossible for them to understand mine? Or is that different?

I never did it was impossible. I said if you want to understand the. The learn from them... not by imagining what it would take for you to do it.

If I say I’ve imagined what it’s like to give birth without learning from an actual woman who has given birth do you think any mother out there would agree that means jack shit?

Depends on whether they are serious about wanting to communicate or if they are just looking for excuses to dismiss people they don't like.

Ok, but how would you know whether they are serious or not if you don’t engage?

By observing their actions.


If all they do is marginalize what you say, because of "reasons" and then try to lecture you based on their moral authority, then they were never serious about communicating.

You don’t know till you try and you ha met tried.

By observing their actions.

 

[Correll]

No, it is not. YOu are ignoring my challenges, and perspective. YOu are dismissing them, because they do not serve your interests or agenda.

You’re challenges and perspectives are not in question... those of immigrants are. That’s what we are discussing

Of course they aren't. Because you don't about them. To you, understanding is a one way street.


It is on US to understand them, not the other way around.


That is why your entire argument is sophist nonsense, provided for the sole purpose of dressing up the fact that all you are doing it telling me to shut up and be lectured to.

What are you talking about? You keep moving the goalpost. You asked a question about why people would take their children on a dangerous trek. You can’t turn it around in the same conversation and condemn me for not understanding your struggles... this conversation has nothing to do with you. If you want to make it about you then pose another question and we can discuss it.

I made a point about a parent taking their children on a dangerous trek.


YOU challenged my ability to judge people with different life experiences. I did not accuse you of moving the goal posts, because it was a relevant to the topic to challenge my ability to make a judgement.


And so we discussed that back and forth a little.


Now we have reached the end of that, and I have pointed out that your desire for understanding is not equal on both parties.


For if your concept of needing to do the work to understand each other is to be valid at all, the understanding must go both ways.


If not, you need to explain, why it is important for me to understand them, but they can ignore me and my concerns.



Because otherwise, it looks like you are just employing sophist nonsense for the sole purpose of dressing up the fact that all you are doing it telling me to shut up and be lectured to.

How do you know they are ignoring your concerns if youve never engaged with them?

You are hear speaking for them, and you are ignoring my perspective and experiences.

 

[bripat9643]

Sure you don't mean illegal immigrant?

Okay. Everyone is illegal if you can justify it.

Never said everyone is illegal but the Trump critics act like everyone showing up at Southern border is coming here legally with nobel intentions. If you can prove that is indeed the case be my guest.

They are children, how do expect them to mount a defence? Doggie Hoizer was a tv show there is no Doggie Lawyer in these camps.

This is not hard to solve, Trump is refusing... He is maltreating children and babies to try and gain a political advantage..

I don't expect them to mount a defense against not having a visa. I expect them to produce a visa or get sent home.

 

[bripat9643]

What kind of parent, takes a kid on a dangerous trek across a desert with dangerous criminals?

One that knows the kids have a better chance that way.

So then if you have a problem with how it is going, take it up with their parents who choose this.

Why? It isn't the parents fault they aren't born into a stable country.

Wrong. It pretty much is. Who is responsible if not the people who live there?

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Who is feed the money into destabizing the country with violence?

Where does the vast amount of arms come from to escalate that violence...

That's no excuse for crossing our border without a visa.

 

[playtime]

he isn't so much a Christian as he is a trumptian.

You people are so full of lies and evil.

Christians have been helping the people at the boarder the entire time. I myself have support with money, charities that help those at the boarder.

Tell me, you walking trash... what have you done?

By the way, it's your left-wing democraps that have prevented anything from being done to help those people.

Trump offered a solution, and you rejected it. It's up to Congress... YOUR congress... the allocate the funds from Planned Parent Hood, and move that money from killing babies, to helping children. You and your scum sucking trash in government, have chosen not to.

So don't complain about how other people don't care, when you are the least caring people on this planet. You people are not even human.

Yes those trumpers worry about the embryo but screw the kids in concentration camps starving and dying HYPOCRITES and scum

 

[bripat9643]

What kind of parent, takes a kid on a dangerous trek across a desert with dangerous criminals?

One that knows the kids have a better chance that way.

So then if you have a problem with how it is going, take it up with their parents who choose this.

Why? It isn't the parents fault they aren't born into a stable country.

Wrong. It pretty much is. Who is responsible if not the people who live there?

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Try the USA, which exported the narco-terrorist drug gangs to Central America, and whose American leadership controls the drugs gangs and their takeover of these countries.

Nope. That narc-terrorists wouldn't be there if the country wasn't a corrupt shit-hole. Cocaine and heroin don't grow in Mexico, you realize.