Why Liberalism Must Be Expunged.

[PoliticalChic]

Some folks actually believe in a black and white world. A world without distinctions, nuance and multiplicity of thought. The OP is such a person. She actually believes that Liberalism equals Marxism. It's tough to understand why, but there it is.

The OP also claims to be proAmerican. All the while calling for a purge of any political ideology she finds has strayed fro the orthodoxy of her peculiar beliefs. Mind boggling, ain't it?

Should such myopic people be taken seriously? Only as case studies for those with either ego issues or the inability to learn and adapt to her social surroundings. Pity her, but take her with a fifty pound bag of rock salt.

Ha ha. Lefties create worlds without distinction, Snowflake. The American idea of equality - that human beings are equal merely by virtue of birth - fostered diversity unmatched in world history.

That you utopian dreamers would purge our traditions and institutions of their natural-law origins speaks only of your reactionary petulance and the gullibility you lavish on your "leaders."

Odd, but I've yet to hear of a Conservative who is a champion of civil rights, women's rights, children's rights, Gay rights, worker's rights or anyone else's rights. I've never heard of a Conservative who is a champion of environmental protection, workplace safety, or the development of science.


Conservatives are, by definition, regressive. Hard to get progress with that attitude.

Ah!

I see you can't seem to shake off that A.D.D......

Prosperity vs the sharing of poverty.

That's the subject you're retreating from.

The Left does not value prosperity....it values equality.

Soooo.....if it feels good, the heck with the consequences.
That's the Liberal's view.

"Here's what the math looks like: I pay my employees $10.50 an hour, plus productivity bonuses. In addition, I pay payroll taxes and one of the highest worker compensation rates in the state. Even still, I could likely absorb a minimum wage as high as $11.50 an hour. But a $15-an-hour wage for my employees translates into $18.90 in costs for me — or just under $40,000 a year per full-time employee.
When the $15 minimum wage is fully phased in, my company would be losing in excess of $200,000 a year..."
Leaving for Las Vegas: California's minimum wage law leaves businesses no choice



Here's your lesson for today....
Minimum Wage laws....walter e. williams

1. While legislative bodies have the power to order wage increases, they have not as of yet found a way to order commensurate increases in worker productivity that make the worker’s output worth the higher wage.
2. Further, while Congress can legislate the wage at which labor transactions occur, it cannot require that the transaction actually be made, and the worker hired.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The same thing could be said about extremist taliban religious assholes that want to push a extremist anti-government agenda. They need to be expunged or this nation is finished.

There's a lot of liberalism that I hate and will agree should be removed but don't exclude the man in the mirror.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Some folks actually believe in a black and white world. A world without distinctions, nuance and multiplicity of thought. The OP is such a person. She actually believes that Liberalism equals Marxism. It's tough to understand why, but there it is.

The OP also claims to be proAmerican. All the while calling for a purge of any political ideology she finds has strayed fro the orthodoxy of her peculiar beliefs. Mind boggling, ain't it?

Should such myopic people be taken seriously? Only as case studies for those with either ego issues or the inability to learn and adapt to her social surroundings. Pity her, but take her with a fifty pound bag of rock salt.

"The OP also claims to be proAmerican. All the while calling for a purge of any political ideology she finds has strayed fro the orthodoxy of her peculiar beliefs...."

Well....let's be specific.

My argument, this day, is that Liberalism prevents prosperity.
The best Liberalism can do is spread poverty and misery.
So saith the LA Times article quoted in the OP.

You didn't deny that....the best you could do was "is not, issss noottttt!".....
the usual Liberal hot-air post.

I have no doubt that you are the product of government schooling.....that's Liberal education at its best!

I think you are a product of no schooling.
Why do you resort to that same old accusation over and over again? It's because you are a fucking loser, loser

 

[norwegen]

Thank Conservatives for civil rights, women's suffrage, and technological progress.

"Duh, conservative doesn't always mean Republican der."

Sometimes it does, Snowflakes.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I understand the not wanting socialism communism, etc. But what this nation cannot withstand is a whole population of flag waving, patriotic cheerleaders(freaks) who only think in one way. A nation with all conservatives or all liberals CANNOT survive. The death of this nation occurs when one side gets all. Freedom means being able to call out the wrongs when they happen. And not a one of you can disagree.

"A nation with all conservatives or all liberals CANNOT survive."

I say give it a try!

Let's get rid of Liberals....the side that opposes freedom.


But...let's prove it together (I have to treat these dunces like kindergarten)....without Fascists....er, Liberals, this wouldn't have happened:

Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????


Double dog dare ya' to answer this.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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1. While legislative bodies have the power to order wage increases, they have not as of yet found a way to order commensurate increases in worker productivity that make the worker’s output worth the higher wage.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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Double dog dare ya' to answer this.

I double dog dare you to take me off ignore and try to debate me again. lolol

 

[norwegen]

I understand the not wanting socialism communism, etc. But what this nation cannot withstand is a whole population of flag waving, patriotic cheerleaders(freaks) who only think in one way. A nation with all conservatives or all liberals CANNOT survive. The death of this nation occurs when one side gets all. Freedom means being able to call out the wrongs when they happen. And not a one of you can disagree.

"A nation with all conservatives or all liberals CANNOT survive."

I say give it a try!

Let's get rid of Liberals....the side that opposes freedom.


But...let's prove it together (I have to treat these dunces like kindergarten)....without Fascists....er, Liberals, this wouldn't have happened:

Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????


Double dog dare ya' to answer this.

We tried it before, before Democrats fought to expand slavery and even before the Progressive Era. Conservatism has proved itself splendidly.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ha ha. Lefties create worlds without distinction, Snowflake. The American idea of equality - that human beings are equal merely by virtue of birth - fostered diversity unmatched in world history.

That you utopian dreamers would purge our traditions and institutions of their natural-law origins speaks only of your reactionary petulance and the gullibility you lavish on your "leaders."

Odd, but I've yet to hear of a Conservative who is a champion of civil rights, women's rights, children's rights, Gay rights, worker's rights or anyone else's rights. I've never heard of a Conservative who is a champion of environmental protection, workplace safety, or the development of science.

Conservatives are, by definition, regressive. Hard to get progress with that attitude.

Open your ears, Snowflake, and stop creating classes.

Without Republicans, civil rights and women's suffrage would not have been realities so soon. And did you know that our right-wing framing instrument provides for technological progress? You probably didn't.

As for most of your other nonsense, like I said, you regressives just love to create classes and divide us.

I never said "Republicans". I said Conservatives.

Substitute the verbiage, Snowflake.

No. Accurately present the verbiage. As an un-nuance, myopic 'thinker' it must be difficult for you to understand distinctions between political party and political ideology. Basic courses in Political Science are available at many community colleges.

Now, don't run off and hide.


Do the restrictions and regulations that Liberals put on business in search of 'equality' prevent prosperity???


Let me give you a hint:


1. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/with-gdp-downgrade-obama-growth-gap-expands/
a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt
b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth." Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire




OK....two hints:

2. "More Businesses Shutting Down than Starting Up
'Business deaths now exceed business births for the first time' in decades.
The American economy is less entrepreneurial now than at any point in the last three decades. That's the conclusion of a new study out from the Brookings Institution, which looks at the rates of new business creation and destruction since 1978.
Not only that, but during the most recent three years of the study -- 2009, 2010 and 2011 -- businesses were collapsing faster than they were being formed, a first. Overall, new businesses creation (measured as the share of all businesses less than one year old) declined by about half from 1978 to 2011." http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/more-businesses-shutting-down-starting_791127.html

 

[NYcarbineer]

Conservatives want to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid,

and yet they chose as their saviour Donald Trump, who early on promised not to touch Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid.

Was that

1. a collective admission of defeat on the part of the Right, or,

2. their belief that Trump was once more lying?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Here is a rule which is the hermeneutical key to understanding how the Left differs, in a most deleterious way, from the right:

The Left does not value prosperity....it values equality.



1. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.

The Left’s concept of materialism broadens into the overarching desire to see every individual materially equal. The Left is less interested in creating wealth than in distributing it, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.

Leftists believe that an end to social and economic inequality and one will have Utopia! Dennis Prager, ”Still The Best Hope”



2. Claims of 'racism' are linked to demands for increased minimum wage laws by this view of the world.
No matter that it has been tried, and not only failed, failed miserably, but resulted in well over 100 million human beings slaughtered.




3. And, more bad news for the Left from the LA Times:
"Leaving for Las Vegas: California's minimum wage law leaves businesses no choice

California’s minimum wage jumped to $10.50 an hour at the start of the new year. As the founder of a small fashion design house and clothing manufacturer in San Fernando, I’m not a disinterested observer in this change.

After two years in business, my company now has more than 150 clients from all over the world and 18 employees. It’s what’s known as a cut-and-sew house, part of the garment industry that generates about $17 billion in annual economic activity in Los Angeles County, including $6.9 billion in payroll, according to a 2016 industry report by the California Fashion Assn. This is the epicenter of apparel design and manufacturing in the United States; domestically manufactured clothing is more expensive, but retail and wholesale customers who care about quality and working conditions have historically been willing to pay for it.

Unfortunately, the industry is on a downward trend. Los Angeles County used to have more than 5,000 apparel factories; today, my company is one of roughly 2,000 — and many (e.g. American Apparel) are looking for a way out. One Los Angeles Times headline, quoting a California State University economist, warned that “the exodus has begun."


If not for the $15 minimum wage, I’d have zero interest in leaving California."
Leaving for Las Vegas: California's minimum wage law leaves businesses no choice



Did I mention that the Left does not value prosperity....it values equality.

Think about that.

I totally agree with you PC, when you understand liberal equality, it always ends in misery. Bread lines in the old Soviet Union where Doctors and Bread makers were paid the same, so soon, Doctors had to have a gun put to their heads so they would work, yet even bread makers started walking away. There WEREN'T too many people jumping over the wall to get into Mother Russia, but plenty of Russians were leaving for Capitalism and the west. Venezuela which has more oil than Saudi Arabia and a gold mine to make all the citizens there very wealthy, are being held up by corrupt politicians and drug cartels, so the people there starve. Yes, liberalism is all about equality, where everyone is equally poor, and equally miserable, that is liberalism in a nutshell.

(only ones who have the money are the liberal elites who steal the money from their citizens).

Equality in outcome is the nemesis of Freedom for everyone.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Conservatives want to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid,

You are a liar.

I know a lot of conservatives and not a single one of them wants to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Odd, but I've yet to hear of a Conservative who is a champion of civil rights, women's rights, children's rights, Gay rights, worker's rights or anyone else's rights. I've never heard of a Conservative who is a champion of environmental protection, workplace safety, or the development of science.

Conservatives are, by definition, regressive. Hard to get progress with that attitude.

Open your ears, Snowflake, and stop creating classes.

Without Republicans, civil rights and women's suffrage would not have been realities so soon. And did you know that our right-wing framing instrument provides for technological progress? You probably didn't.

As for most of your other nonsense, like I said, you regressives just love to create classes and divide us.

I never said "Republicans". I said Conservatives.

Substitute the verbiage, Snowflake.

No. Accurately present the verbiage. As an un-nuance, myopic 'thinker' it must be difficult for you to understand distinctions between political party and political ideology. Basic courses in Political Science are available at many community colleges.

Now, don't run off and hide.


Do the restrictions and regulations that Liberals put on business in search of 'equality' prevent prosperity???


Let me give you a hint:


1. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion
a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt
b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth." Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire




OK....two hints:

2. "More Businesses Shutting Down than Starting Up
'Business deaths now exceed business births for the first time' in decades.
The American economy is less entrepreneurial now than at any point in the last three decades. That's the conclusion of a new study out from the Brookings Institution, which looks at the rates of new business creation and destruction since 1978.
Not only that, but during the most recent three years of the study -- 2009, 2010 and 2011 -- businesses were collapsing faster than they were being formed, a first. Overall, new businesses creation (measured as the share of all businesses less than one year old) declined by about half from 1978 to 2011." http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/more-businesses-shutting-down-starting_791127.html

You lie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Thank Conservatives for civil rights, women's suffrage, and technological progress.

"Duh, conservative doesn't always mean Republican der."

Sometimes it does, Snowflakes.

Of course you are correct....

Everything from eradication of slavery...in the face of Democrat opposition,
to giving women the vote, to the EITC, and healthcare for every person in the country.
Not one of those is due to the Democrats.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Open your ears, Snowflake, and stop creating classes.

Without Republicans, civil rights and women's suffrage would not have been realities so soon. And did you know that our right-wing framing instrument provides for technological progress? You probably didn't.

As for most of your other nonsense, like I said, you regressives just love to create classes and divide us.

I never said "Republicans". I said Conservatives.

Substitute the verbiage, Snowflake.

No. Accurately present the verbiage. As an un-nuance, myopic 'thinker' it must be difficult for you to understand distinctions between political party and political ideology. Basic courses in Political Science are available at many community colleges.

Now, don't run off and hide.


Do the restrictions and regulations that Liberals put on business in search of 'equality' prevent prosperity???


Let me give you a hint:


1. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion
a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt
b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth." Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire




OK....two hints:

2. "More Businesses Shutting Down than Starting Up
'Business deaths now exceed business births for the first time' in decades.
The American economy is less entrepreneurial now than at any point in the last three decades. That's the conclusion of a new study out from the Brookings Institution, which looks at the rates of new business creation and destruction since 1978.
Not only that, but during the most recent three years of the study -- 2009, 2010 and 2011 -- businesses were collapsing faster than they were being formed, a first. Overall, new businesses creation (measured as the share of all businesses less than one year old) declined by about half from 1978 to 2011." http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/more-businesses-shutting-down-starting_791127.html

You lie.

No, you lie.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Do you support infrastructure, science, r&d and education? That is what is important and is very moderate and sensible.

 

[Nosmo King]

Thank Conservatives for civil rights, women's suffrage, and technological progress.

"Duh, conservative doesn't always mean Republican der."

Sometimes it does, Snowflakes.

What Conservatives were champions of those rights? Please be specific.

Do you really think that George Wallace was a Liberal? Do you think those opposing women's suffrage were Liberals? Was opposing stem cell research a position advocated by Liberals?

Really. Study up before you bring such nonsense.

 

[norwegen]

Here is a rule which is the hermeneutical key to understanding how the Left differs, in a most deleterious way, from the right:

The Left does not value prosperity....it values equality.



1. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.

The Left’s concept of materialism broadens into the overarching desire to see every individual materially equal. The Left is less interested in creating wealth than in distributing it, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.

Leftists believe that an end to social and economic inequality and one will have Utopia! Dennis Prager, ”Still The Best Hope”



2. Claims of 'racism' are linked to demands for increased minimum wage laws by this view of the world.
No matter that it has been tried, and not only failed, failed miserably, but resulted in well over 100 million human beings slaughtered.




3. And, more bad news for the Left from the LA Times:
"Leaving for Las Vegas: California's minimum wage law leaves businesses no choice

California’s minimum wage jumped to $10.50 an hour at the start of the new year. As the founder of a small fashion design house and clothing manufacturer in San Fernando, I’m not a disinterested observer in this change.

After two years in business, my company now has more than 150 clients from all over the world and 18 employees. It’s what’s known as a cut-and-sew house, part of the garment industry that generates about $17 billion in annual economic activity in Los Angeles County, including $6.9 billion in payroll, according to a 2016 industry report by the California Fashion Assn. This is the epicenter of apparel design and manufacturing in the United States; domestically manufactured clothing is more expensive, but retail and wholesale customers who care about quality and working conditions have historically been willing to pay for it.

Unfortunately, the industry is on a downward trend. Los Angeles County used to have more than 5,000 apparel factories; today, my company is one of roughly 2,000 — and many (e.g. American Apparel) are looking for a way out. One Los Angeles Times headline, quoting a California State University economist, warned that “the exodus has begun."


If not for the $15 minimum wage, I’d have zero interest in leaving California."
Leaving for Las Vegas: California's minimum wage law leaves businesses no choice



Did I mention that the Left does not value prosperity....it values equality.

Think about that.

I totally agree with you PC, when you understand liberal equality, it always ends in misery. Bread lines in the old Soviet Union where Doctors and Bread makers were paid the same, so soon, Doctors had to have a gun put to their heads so they would work, yet even bread makers started walking away. There WEREN'T too many people jumping over the wall to get into Mother Russia, but plenty of Russians were leaving for Capitalism and the west. Venezuela which has more oil than Saudi Arabia and a gold mine to make all the citizens there very wealthy, are being held up by corrupt politicians and drug cartels, so the people there starve. Yes, liberalism is all about equality, where everyone is equally poor, and equally miserable, that is liberalism in a nutshell.

(only ones who have the money are the liberal elites who steal the money from their citizens).

Equality in outcome is the nemesis of Freedom for everyone.

Exactly. It pillages some and disincentivises others.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Conservatives want to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid,

You are a liar.

I know a lot of conservatives and not a single one of them wants to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

Well if that's true, then you're conceding that conservatives have signed onto 3 of the biggest socialist programs in America.

That would support my original point that liberalism always wins!!

 

[JimBowie1958]

Do you really think that George Wallace was a Liberal? .

George Wallace was ALWAYS a racist Democrat and he changed his tune much later and was NEVER a Republican, dude.