Why is the gay community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

[Moonglow]

It was a legitimate counter to the question posed by the OP.

Since it was substantiated at your request why are you afraid of answering the question?

.

your cite did not support the claim that you made, care to try again?

It wasn't my citation but you still need to answer the question or just tacitly admit that you are too scared to deal with why the extreme right are afraid of gays.

Oh stop, nobody is afraid of gays, disgusted and repulsed maybe but not afraid

So you don't mind going through heterosexual conversion therapy??

normal people do not need to be converted. They are normal.

Not the 50% I was married to...

 

[Redfish]

your cite did not support the claim that you made, care to try again?

It wasn't my citation but you still need to answer the question or just tacitly admit that you are too scared to deal with why the extreme right are afraid of gays.

Oh stop, nobody is afraid of gays, disgusted and repulsed maybe but not afraid

So you don't mind going through heterosexual conversion therapy??

normal people do not need to be converted. They are normal.

Not the 50% I was married to...

your poor choice is no one's responsibility but yours.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Sorry, I just can't seem to be afraid.

 

[Moonglow]

It wasn't my citation but you still need to answer the question or just tacitly admit that you are too scared to deal with why the extreme right are afraid of gays.

Oh stop, nobody is afraid of gays, disgusted and repulsed maybe but not afraid

So you don't mind going through heterosexual conversion therapy??

normal people do not need to be converted. They are normal.

Not the 50% I was married to...

your poor choice is no one's responsibility but yours.

After the ring goes on, the truth comes out...

 

[healthmyths]

Why are the rightwing homophobes afraid that gays are trying to convert straight people?

Who ever said that?
But whoever did say they were right!
Where have you been for the last 50 years?
"Don't ask don't tell"? What advocacy group spends more money promoting homosexual behavior then the following 80 groups in the USA alone!:
List of LGBT rights organizations in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
And for crying out loud.. gays have a "phobia" label created to make people guilty..."Homophobia" or as the idiot above said "homophobes"!
Where is the label for the hatred of people that want to help those gays that don't want to be gay?
At least be honest enough to let the conversion therapy believers have their organizations... but "convotherapyphobes" such as you are so unsure of the status of a gay person you and other gays are the first to lash out against anyone who doesn't believe in the gay life style.
How compassionate and open minded are the liberal/gay/progressive people like you? You are suppose to be "let me be me" advocates until someone wants change
from being homosexual and boy are you so angry. So upset that ANYONE would question your sexuality preferences!
See those of us you label as "rightwing homophobes" seem to ignore the "Log Cabin Republicans" that have been around since 1977 are right wing what????
Where in the progressive/liberal/Democrat party do you have room for the "conversion therapy" crowd? Talk a good talk but certainly don't walk the talk!

• Accord Alliance
• ACT UP
• Advocates for Informed Choice (AIC)
• Affirmation: Gay & Lesbian Mormons
• Against Equality
• American Foundation for Equal Rights
• American Veterans for Equal Rights
• Athlete Ally
• Atticus Circle
• Bash Back! (defunct)
• Bialogue
• BiNet USA
• Campus Pride
• Cheer, Dorothy, Cheer!
• Children of Lesbians and Gays Everywhere (COLAGE)
• Daughters of Bilitis (defunct)
• Empowering Spirits Foundation
• Equality Across America
• Equality Federation
• Equality for HER
• Family Equality Council
• Fight OUT Loud
• Fine By Me (defunct)
• Freedom to Marry
• Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders (GLAD)
• Gay and Lesbian Medical Association (GLMA)
• Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund
• Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN)
• Gay Liberation Front (GLF) (defunct)
• Gay Rights National Lobby (defunct)
• GenderPAC (GPAC) (defunct)
• GetEQUAL
• GLAAD
• GLIFAA
• Global Equality Fund
• GSA Network
• Human Rights Campaign (HRC)
• Immigration Equality (organization)
• Integrity USA (Episcopal Church)
• International Foundation for Gender Education (IFGE)
• Join the Impact (defunct)
• Keshet (organization)
• LPAC
• Lambda Legal
• Lavender Menace (defunct)
• Lesbian Avengers
• Love Makes a Family
• Marriage Equality USA
• Mattachine Society
• Matthew Shepard Foundation
• National Black Justice Coalition (NBJC)
• National Center for Lesbian Rights (NCLR)
• National Center for Transgender Equality (NCTE)
• National Coalition of Black Lesbians and Gays (defunct)
• National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce (NGLCC)
• National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (The Task Force)
• National Transgender Advocacy Coalition
• National Youth Advocacy Coalition (NYAC) (defunct)
• NOH8 Campaign
• North American Conference of Homophile Organizations (defunct)
• Organization Intersex International USA (OII-USA)
• Old Lesbians Organizing for Change
• ONE National Gay & Lesbian Archives
• Out & Equal
• OutServe-SLDN
• PFLAG
• Pride at Work
• Queer Nation
• RESYST (defunct)
• Rainbow Sash
• Services & Advocacy for GLBT Elders (SAGE)
• Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN)
• Society for Human Rights (defunct)
• Soulforce
• Sylvia Rivera Law Project
• The Pink Panthers
• Think Again
• Trans Student Equality Resources
• Transgender Law Center
• Truth Wins Out

 

[healthmyths]

Why is the gay community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

Where is the evidence that there is any such "fear" in the gay community?

their rejection of it is quite obvious. If the gay community admitted that they could be "converted" to normally sexual humans then they would be admitting that being gay is a disease and/or a choice. Such an admission would destroy the entire gay agenda.

Please provide a credible :link" proving that "conversion therapy" actually works.

These are "anecdotal stories" i.e. exceptions rather then the rule...kind of like what Obamacare has done in vilifying insurance companies blowing totally out of
proportion the "health care crisis" when he repeats stories that ARE ANECDOTAL just as the following link is ANECDOTAL... i.e. NOT the rule but the exception!
But it is OK to destroy our entire health care system based on anecdotal stories of the evil health insurance industry that wouldn't pay his mom's claims... wait that was a lie because they did!
So what does the above have to do with the below?? ANECDOTAL! Exceptions NOT the rule!
YOU can't have it both ways!

During the 2008 campaign, Obama frequently suggested his mother had to fight with her health-insurance company for treatment of her cancer because it considered her disease to be a pre-existing condition. In one of the presidential debates with GOP rival John McCain, Obama said:

A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s mother.” Scott reviewed letters from Dunham to the CIGNA insurance company, and revealed the dispute was over disability coverage, not health insurance coverage (see pages 335-339).

Disability coverage will help replace wages lost to an illness. (Dunham received a base pay of $82,500, plus a housing allowance and a car, to work in Indonesia for Development Alternatives Inc. of Bethesda, according to Scott.) But that is different than health insurance coverage denied because of a pre-existing condition, which was a major part of the president’s health care law.

Scott writes that Dunham, who died in 1995 of uterine and ovarian cancer, had health insurance that “covered most of the costs of her medical treatment…The hospital billed her insurance company directly, leaving Ann to pay only the deductible and any uncovered expenses, which, she said, came to several hundred dollars a month.”
So OK... Obama lied about that but here are again ANECDOTAL stories about conversion therapy successes! EXCEPTIONS YES... but nevertheless you have
YOUR anecdotals and conversion therapy defenders should be able to have their own!
People Can Change Our Stories of Change

 

[Derideo_Te]

Why is the gay community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

Where is the evidence that there is any such "fear" in the gay community?

their rejection of it is quite obvious. If the gay community admitted that they could be "converted" to normally sexual humans then they would be admitting that being gay is a disease and/or a choice. Such an admission would destroy the entire gay agenda.

Please provide a credible :link" proving that "conversion therapy" actually works.

These are "anecdotal stories" i.e. exceptions rather then the rule...kind of like what Obamacare has done in vilifying insurance companies blowing totally out of
proportion the "health care crisis" when he repeats stories that ARE ANECDOTAL just as the following link is ANECDOTAL... i.e. NOT the rule but the exception!
But it is OK to destroy our entire health care system based on anecdotal stories of the evil health insurance industry that wouldn't pay his mom's claims... wait that was a lie because they did!
So what does the above have to do with the below?? ANECDOTAL! Exceptions NOT the rule!
YOU can't have it both ways!

During the 2008 campaign, Obama frequently suggested his mother had to fight with her health-insurance company for treatment of her cancer because it considered her disease to be a pre-existing condition. In one of the presidential debates with GOP rival John McCain, Obama said:

A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s mother.” Scott reviewed letters from Dunham to the CIGNA insurance company, and revealed the dispute was over disability coverage, not health insurance coverage (see pages 335-339).

Disability coverage will help replace wages lost to an illness. (Dunham received a base pay of $82,500, plus a housing allowance and a car, to work in Indonesia for Development Alternatives Inc. of Bethesda, according to Scott.) But that is different than health insurance coverage denied because of a pre-existing condition, which was a major part of the president’s health care law.

Scott writes that Dunham, who died in 1995 of uterine and ovarian cancer, had health insurance that “covered most of the costs of her medical treatment…The hospital billed her insurance company directly, leaving Ann to pay only the deductible and any uncovered expenses, which, she said, came to several hundred dollars a month.”
So OK... Obama lied about that but here are again ANECDOTAL stories about conversion therapy successes! EXCEPTIONS YES... but nevertheless you have
YOUR anecdotals and conversion therapy defenders should be able to have their own!
People Can Change Our Stories of Change

Great job derailing your own thread topic.

 

[Redfish]

Why is the gay community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

Where is the evidence that there is any such "fear" in the gay community?

their rejection of it is quite obvious. If the gay community admitted that they could be "converted" to normally sexual humans then they would be admitting that being gay is a disease and/or a choice. Such an admission would destroy the entire gay agenda.

Please provide a credible :link" proving that "conversion therapy" actually works.

These are "anecdotal stories" i.e. exceptions rather then the rule...kind of like what Obamacare has done in vilifying insurance companies blowing totally out of
proportion the "health care crisis" when he repeats stories that ARE ANECDOTAL just as the following link is ANECDOTAL... i.e. NOT the rule but the exception!
But it is OK to destroy our entire health care system based on anecdotal stories of the evil health insurance industry that wouldn't pay his mom's claims... wait that was a lie because they did!
So what does the above have to do with the below?? ANECDOTAL! Exceptions NOT the rule!
YOU can't have it both ways!

During the 2008 campaign, Obama frequently suggested his mother had to fight with her health-insurance company for treatment of her cancer because it considered her disease to be a pre-existing condition. In one of the presidential debates with GOP rival John McCain, Obama said:

A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s mother.” Scott reviewed letters from Dunham to the CIGNA insurance company, and revealed the dispute was over disability coverage, not health insurance coverage (see pages 335-339).

Disability coverage will help replace wages lost to an illness. (Dunham received a base pay of $82,500, plus a housing allowance and a car, to work in Indonesia for Development Alternatives Inc. of Bethesda, according to Scott.) But that is different than health insurance coverage denied because of a pre-existing condition, which was a major part of the president’s health care law.

Scott writes that Dunham, who died in 1995 of uterine and ovarian cancer, had health insurance that “covered most of the costs of her medical treatment…The hospital billed her insurance company directly, leaving Ann to pay only the deductible and any uncovered expenses, which, she said, came to several hundred dollars a month.”
So OK... Obama lied about that but here are again ANECDOTAL stories about conversion therapy successes! EXCEPTIONS YES... but nevertheless you have
YOUR anecdotals and conversion therapy defenders should be able to have their own!
People Can Change Our Stories of Change

Great job derailing your own thread topic.

what he did was derail you fricken ignorant lying libtards.

 

[rightwinger]

Why are the rightwing homophobes afraid that gays are trying to convert straight people?

Who ever said that? Give us a quote.

All we ever hear is the gay agenda

are you claiming that there isn't one?

Of course there is.......to be treated like everyone else by our laws

 

[Redfish]

Why are the rightwing homophobes afraid that gays are trying to convert straight people?

Who ever said that? Give us a quote.

All we ever hear is the gay agenda

are you claiming that there isn't one?

Of course there is.......to be treated like everyone else by our laws

there are no US laws that are not applicable to gays. WTF are you ranting about?

 

[NYcarbineer]

It wasn't my citation but you still need to answer the question or just tacitly admit that you are too scared to deal with why the extreme right are afraid of gays.

Oh stop, nobody is afraid of gays, disgusted and repulsed maybe but not afraid

So you don't mind going through heterosexual conversion therapy??

normal people do not need to be converted. They are normal.

Since when is an irrational hatred for your fellow Americans "normal"?

I don't hate gays. I have gay relatives and friends. I love and respect every one of them.

But their lifestyle is not biologically normal, thats just a fact.

Neither then is putting a piece of latex over your penis to prevent a pregnancy. Are you back to wanting to outlaw contraception?

 

[healthmyths]

Who ever said that? Give us a quote.

Help yourself to all the links:

Homosexual agenda - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

that is talking about cultural acceptance of homosexualiy, it says nothing about trying to convert straights into gays.

nice try, but FAIL

It was a legitimate counter to the question posed by the OP.

Since it was substantiated at your request why are you afraid of answering the question?

.

your cite did not support the claim that you made, care to try again?

It wasn't my citation but you still need to answer the question or just tacitly admit that you are too scared to deal with why the extreme right are afraid of gays.

There is a good reason why to fear the gays. They are bosom buddies with the MSM and sorry to say the majority of LIPs like yourself listen to the MSM headlines,
30 second sound bites and consequently NEVER NEVER go any deeper into any story or meme produced by the MSM/Gays/progressives/Obamatrons,etc. and
so naturally any of us that favor principles over passion...logic over emotion, truth over half-truths we have to be twice as careful what we say.
Case in point today:
WaPo columnist Jonathan Capehart: People call me ‘house negro’ for debunking ‘hands up, don’t shoot’
Read more: Jonathan Capehart People call me house negro for debunking hands up don t shoot - Washington Times
Capehart is a liberal left wing journalist who is calling out the majority of the MSM for falsely promoting "hands up don't shoot"...
NOW Capehart is feeling the SAME biased name calling that the majority of us principled people endure from you LIPs and your MSM buddies.
Instead of being honest about Brown i.e. he was a thug who attacked the officer which is WHAT CAPEHART is supporting i.e. the DoJ findings...
they are now beating up Capehart!
So YES I for one being a principled HONEST person that recognizes that there is NO such thing as a clear cut HOMOSEXUAL...i.e. "I've gotta be me" when
the laws of reproduction work against the same sex coupling!
GEEZ how plain and simple must it be to you LIPs before you understand that NATURE has built life to support going forward...i.e. REPRODUCE!
And there isn't any way two guys are going to reproduce short of artificial surrogate,et.al. techniques... because it is not the nature of life to be same sex.
So the majority of same sex people today are here because WE the principled people are tolerating this reproduction objective by nature. We are allowing
more same sex people to live for all intent the same type of existence heterosexuals do...minus the manufactured births.
So yes I for one fear the power of the gay community in league with the MSM for sure!

 

[healthmyths]

Why is the gay community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

Where is the evidence that there is any such "fear" in the gay community?

their rejection of it is quite obvious. If the gay community admitted that they could be "converted" to normally sexual humans then they would be admitting that being gay is a disease and/or a choice. Such an admission would destroy the entire gay agenda.

Please provide a credible :link" proving that "conversion therapy" actually works.

These are "anecdotal stories" i.e. exceptions rather then the rule...kind of like what Obamacare has done in vilifying insurance companies blowing totally out of
proportion the "health care crisis" when he repeats stories that ARE ANECDOTAL just as the following link is ANECDOTAL... i.e. NOT the rule but the exception!
But it is OK to destroy our entire health care system based on anecdotal stories of the evil health insurance industry that wouldn't pay his mom's claims... wait that was a lie because they did!
So what does the above have to do with the below?? ANECDOTAL! Exceptions NOT the rule!
YOU can't have it both ways!

During the 2008 campaign, Obama frequently suggested his mother had to fight with her health-insurance company for treatment of her cancer because it considered her disease to be a pre-existing condition. In one of the presidential debates with GOP rival John McCain, Obama said:

A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s mother.” Scott reviewed letters from Dunham to the CIGNA insurance company, and revealed the dispute was over disability coverage, not health insurance coverage (see pages 335-339).

Disability coverage will help replace wages lost to an illness. (Dunham received a base pay of $82,500, plus a housing allowance and a car, to work in Indonesia for Development Alternatives Inc. of Bethesda, according to Scott.) But that is different than health insurance coverage denied because of a pre-existing condition, which was a major part of the president’s health care law.

Scott writes that Dunham, who died in 1995 of uterine and ovarian cancer, had health insurance that “covered most of the costs of her medical treatment…The hospital billed her insurance company directly, leaving Ann to pay only the deductible and any uncovered expenses, which, she said, came to several hundred dollars a month.”
So OK... Obama lied about that but here are again ANECDOTAL stories about conversion therapy successes! EXCEPTIONS YES... but nevertheless you have
YOUR anecdotals and conversion therapy defenders should be able to have their own!
People Can Change Our Stories of Change

Great job derailing your own thread topic.

In your limited mind I'm sure because you can't keep track of multiple tracks...which is indicative of a LIP such as you!
Unable to see the connection that it was sure OK for Obama to use the EXCEPTIONS, THE ANECDOTES... to get ACA passed.
But let me cite anecdotes, single cases, the exceptions and you think that's derailing???
Truly a shame that LIPs like you have all the access to facts yet you obviously depend on the 30 second sound bite, the headline to form your opinion!
Anything that goes deeper just is too much for your brain to follow.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Because it implies that gays aren't born gay and that they can leave their sick, sad lifestyle. There are thousands of ex-gays walking around who can attest that homosexuality is a choice, not an "orientation."

 

[Derideo_Te]

any of us that favor principles over passion...logic over emotion, truth over half-truths

So yes I for one fear the power of the gay community in league with the MSM for sure!

Great job contradicting yourself!

 

[Derideo_Te]

Where is the evidence that there is any such "fear" in the gay community?

their rejection of it is quite obvious. If the gay community admitted that they could be "converted" to normally sexual humans then they would be admitting that being gay is a disease and/or a choice. Such an admission would destroy the entire gay agenda.

Please provide a credible :link" proving that "conversion therapy" actually works.

These are "anecdotal stories" i.e. exceptions rather then the rule...kind of like what Obamacare has done in vilifying insurance companies blowing totally out of
proportion the "health care crisis" when he repeats stories that ARE ANECDOTAL just as the following link is ANECDOTAL... i.e. NOT the rule but the exception!
But it is OK to destroy our entire health care system based on anecdotal stories of the evil health insurance industry that wouldn't pay his mom's claims... wait that was a lie because they did!
So what does the above have to do with the below?? ANECDOTAL! Exceptions NOT the rule!
YOU can't have it both ways!

During the 2008 campaign, Obama frequently suggested his mother had to fight with her health-insurance company for treatment of her cancer because it considered her disease to be a pre-existing condition. In one of the presidential debates with GOP rival John McCain, Obama said:

A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s mother.” Scott reviewed letters from Dunham to the CIGNA insurance company, and revealed the dispute was over disability coverage, not health insurance coverage (see pages 335-339).

Disability coverage will help replace wages lost to an illness. (Dunham received a base pay of $82,500, plus a housing allowance and a car, to work in Indonesia for Development Alternatives Inc. of Bethesda, according to Scott.) But that is different than health insurance coverage denied because of a pre-existing condition, which was a major part of the president’s health care law.

Scott writes that Dunham, who died in 1995 of uterine and ovarian cancer, had health insurance that “covered most of the costs of her medical treatment…The hospital billed her insurance company directly, leaving Ann to pay only the deductible and any uncovered expenses, which, she said, came to several hundred dollars a month.”
So OK... Obama lied about that but here are again ANECDOTAL stories about conversion therapy successes! EXCEPTIONS YES... but nevertheless you have
YOUR anecdotals and conversion therapy defenders should be able to have their own!
People Can Change Our Stories of Change

Great job derailing your own thread topic.

In your limited mind I'm sure because you can't keep track of multiple tracks...which is indicative of a LIP such as you!
Unable to see the connection that it was sure OK for Obama to use the EXCEPTIONS, THE ANECDOTES... to get ACA passed.
But let me cite anecdotes, single cases, the exceptions and you think that's derailing???
Truly a shame that LIPs like you have all the access to facts yet you obviously depend on the 30 second sound bite, the headline to form your opinion!
Anything that goes deeper just is too much for your brain to follow.

You are at liberty to derail your own thread any time you like.

But you will be a hypocrite if you accuse others of derailing your thread when you have done it yourself.

Just saying...

 

[Derideo_Te]

There are thousands of ex-gays walking around who can attest that homosexuality is a choice, not an "orientation."

 

[healthmyths]

their rejection of it is quite obvious. If the gay community admitted that they could be "converted" to normally sexual humans then they would be admitting that being gay is a disease and/or a choice. Such an admission would destroy the entire gay agenda.

Please provide a credible :link" proving that "conversion therapy" actually works.

These are "anecdotal stories" i.e. exceptions rather then the rule...kind of like what Obamacare has done in vilifying insurance companies blowing totally out of
proportion the "health care crisis" when he repeats stories that ARE ANECDOTAL just as the following link is ANECDOTAL... i.e. NOT the rule but the exception!
But it is OK to destroy our entire health care system based on anecdotal stories of the evil health insurance industry that wouldn't pay his mom's claims... wait that was a lie because they did!
So what does the above have to do with the below?? ANECDOTAL! Exceptions NOT the rule!
YOU can't have it both ways!

During the 2008 campaign, Obama frequently suggested his mother had to fight with her health-insurance company for treatment of her cancer because it considered her disease to be a pre-existing condition. In one of the presidential debates with GOP rival John McCain, Obama said:

A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s mother.” Scott reviewed letters from Dunham to the CIGNA insurance company, and revealed the dispute was over disability coverage, not health insurance coverage (see pages 335-339).

Disability coverage will help replace wages lost to an illness. (Dunham received a base pay of $82,500, plus a housing allowance and a car, to work in Indonesia for Development Alternatives Inc. of Bethesda, according to Scott.) But that is different than health insurance coverage denied because of a pre-existing condition, which was a major part of the president’s health care law.

Scott writes that Dunham, who died in 1995 of uterine and ovarian cancer, had health insurance that “covered most of the costs of her medical treatment…The hospital billed her insurance company directly, leaving Ann to pay only the deductible and any uncovered expenses, which, she said, came to several hundred dollars a month.”
So OK... Obama lied about that but here are again ANECDOTAL stories about conversion therapy successes! EXCEPTIONS YES... but nevertheless you have
YOUR anecdotals and conversion therapy defenders should be able to have their own!
People Can Change Our Stories of Change

Great job derailing your own thread topic.

In your limited mind I'm sure because you can't keep track of multiple tracks...which is indicative of a LIP such as you!
Unable to see the connection that it was sure OK for Obama to use the EXCEPTIONS, THE ANECDOTES... to get ACA passed.
But let me cite anecdotes, single cases, the exceptions and you think that's derailing???
Truly a shame that LIPs like you have all the access to facts yet you obviously depend on the 30 second sound bite, the headline to form your opinion!
Anything that goes deeper just is too much for your brain to follow.

You are at liberty to derail your own thread any time you like.

But you will be a hypocrite if you accuse others of derailing your thread when you have done it yourself.

Just saying...

WHAT do you mean "derailing"???
I was using the illustration of how Obamacare was passed BASED ON ANECDOTALS!
LIPs like you believed Obama's false stories happened ALL the time.
Case in point his MOM! Total lie Obama was telling on the campaign trail...!
Why then if it was OK for Obama et.al. to use ANECDOTALs to supposedly prove how dastardly and poorly insurance companies treated people...
THEN why can't I use ANECDOTALS like these:

Follow this link for a bunch of anecdotals!!!
People Can Change Our Stories of Change

 

[healthmyths]

There are thousands of ex-gays walking around who can attest that homosexuality is a choice, not an "orientation."

read this and see these "anecdotals" which is OK to use as Obama used anecdotals ALL the time to paint insurance companies as the bad guys and reason for ACA!
OK... here are MY anecdotals!
People Can Change Our Stories of Change

 

[Derideo_Te]

WHAT do you mean "derailing"???

Your thread is about gays allegedly being afraid of "conversion therapy".

You are derailing it by ranting about Obamacare.