Zone1 Why is it not politically correct to be critical of religions other than Christianity?

[Votto]

The vast majority of people on this site are very critical of Christianity, but say virtually nothing about other religions. Somehow, being critical of other religions around the world is considered bigoted.

Why?

I have no problem with people being critical of anything really, even a faith that I profess. However, am I to be silent of other religions that deserve equal criticism? Christians here are often harassed about theology from the Holy books that may say something about animal sacrifice or slavery that happened thousands of years ago but are not practiced today or why you can eat pork now but now in times past, etc.

Is that fair? Don't get me wrong, these questions should be asked and answered but really, questions should also be more centered on what you believe and practice today. How you live and think is the measure of your faith, and not what people have done in the past.

This leads me to Islam. There are virtually no threads on these boards about being critical of Islam, even though Islam dominates a great deal of the world today as it seems to grow every year. As a result, I think it dangerous to turn a blind eye to all the changes going on around us thanks to this world religion.

Here is a taste of who Islam is slowly taking over the world

Formerly Christian Countries That Are Now Muslim

1. Turkey (formerly the Byzantine Empire): Once the center of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, now over 99% Muslim. Turkey is also one of several countries where the “ethnic cleansing” of Christians took place during the Muslim takeover.

2. Egypt: A Christian-majority nation before the Arab conquests, now over 90% Muslim. Egypt also experienced the “ethnic cleansing” of some of its Christian population. See Western Media Ignores Slaughter of Coptic Woman and Men by Muslim Brotherhood.

3. Syria: Historically home to one of the oldest Christian communities, now majority Muslim, due in part to “ethnic cleansing.”

4. Iraq: Once a Christian heartland, now overwhelmingly Muslim, with a persecuted and sometimes “ethnically cleansed” Christian minority.

5. North African Nations (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco): Formerly Christian under the Roman Empire, now predominantly Muslim, where “ethnic cleansing” has and continues to take place.

6. Bosnia and Herzegovina: Formerly part of Christian Eastern Europe, now about 50% Muslim where “mass violence” against Christians took place.

7. Albania: Converted to Islam under Ottoman rule, remains largely Muslim today.

8. Azerbaijan: Before the Islamic conquests, Azerbaijan was a predominantly Christian region, influenced by the Persian Empire and the Byzantine Empire. Now it is 97% Muslim.

But how will this change the world? Watch this video to get a taste.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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Christianity is not "diverse".


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[Crepitus]

The vast majority of people on this site are very critical of Christianity, but say virtually nothing about other religions. Somehow, being critical of other religions around the world is considered bigoted.

Why?

I have no problem with people being critical of anything really, even a faith that I profess. However, am I to be silent of other religions that deserve equal criticism? Christians here are often harassed about theology from the Holy books that may say something about animal sacrifice or slavery that happened thousands of years ago but are not practiced today or why you can eat pork now but now in times past, etc.

Is that fair? Don't get me wrong, these questions should be asked and answered but really, questions should also be more centered on what you believe and practice today. How you live and think is the measure of your faith, and not what people have done in the past.

This leads me to Islam. There are virtually no threads on these boards about being critical of Islam, even though Islam dominates a great deal of the world today as it seems to grow every year. As a result, I think it dangerous to turn a blind eye to all the changes going on around us thanks to this world religion.

Here is a taste of who Islam is slowly taking over the world

Formerly Christian Countries That Are Now Muslim

1. Turkey (formerly the Byzantine Empire): Once the center of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, now over 99% Muslim. Turkey is also one of several countries where the “ethnic cleansing” of Christians took place during the Muslim takeover.

2. Egypt: A Christian-majority nation before the Arab conquests, now over 90% Muslim. Egypt also experienced the “ethnic cleansing” of some of its Christian population. See Western Media Ignores Slaughter of Coptic Woman and Men by Muslim Brotherhood.

3. Syria: Historically home to one of the oldest Christian communities, now majority Muslim, due in part to “ethnic cleansing.”

4. Iraq: Once a Christian heartland, now overwhelmingly Muslim, with a persecuted and sometimes “ethnically cleansed” Christian minority.

5. North African Nations (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco): Formerly Christian under the Roman Empire, now predominantly Muslim, where “ethnic cleansing” has and continues to take place.

6. Bosnia and Herzegovina: Formerly part of Christian Eastern Europe, now about 50% Muslim where “mass violence” against Christians took place.

7. Albania: Converted to Islam under Ottoman rule, remains largely Muslim today.

8. Azerbaijan: Before the Islamic conquests, Azerbaijan was a predominantly Christian region, influenced by the Persian Empire and the Byzantine Empire. Now it is 97% Muslim.

But how will this change the world? Watch this video to get a taste.

I am critical of all religions. Organized religion is the bane of humanity.

As far as I know, And I have looked, there is only one religion that has never killed or marginalized people of different religions, races or opinions, and that is Jainism.

And I suspect they just haven't gotten around to it yet.

 

[1srelluc]

Because Christians, for the most part, have a sense of humor?

 

[alang1216]

The vast majority of people on this site are very critical of Christianity, but say virtually nothing about other religions. Somehow, being critical of other religions around the world is considered bigoted.

Why?

I have no problem with people being critical of anything really, even a faith that I profess. However, am I to be silent of other religions that deserve equal criticism? Christians here are often harassed about theology from the Holy books that may say something about animal sacrifice or slavery that happened thousands of years ago but are not practiced today or why you can eat pork now but now in times past, etc.

Is that fair? Don't get me wrong, these questions should be asked and answered but really, questions should also be more centered on what you believe and practice today. How you live and think is the measure of your faith, and not what people have done in the past.

This leads me to Islam. There are virtually no threads on these boards about being critical of Islam, even though Islam dominates a great deal of the world today as it seems to grow every year. As a result, I think it dangerous to turn a blind eye to all the changes going on around us thanks to this world religion.

Here is a taste of who Islam is slowly taking over the world

Formerly Christian Countries That Are Now Muslim

1. Turkey (formerly the Byzantine Empire): Once the center of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, now over 99% Muslim. Turkey is also one of several countries where the “ethnic cleansing” of Christians took place during the Muslim takeover.

2. Egypt: A Christian-majority nation before the Arab conquests, now over 90% Muslim. Egypt also experienced the “ethnic cleansing” of some of its Christian population. See Western Media Ignores Slaughter of Coptic Woman and Men by Muslim Brotherhood.

3. Syria: Historically home to one of the oldest Christian communities, now majority Muslim, due in part to “ethnic cleansing.”

4. Iraq: Once a Christian heartland, now overwhelmingly Muslim, with a persecuted and sometimes “ethnically cleansed” Christian minority.

5. North African Nations (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco): Formerly Christian under the Roman Empire, now predominantly Muslim, where “ethnic cleansing” has and continues to take place.

6. Bosnia and Herzegovina: Formerly part of Christian Eastern Europe, now about 50% Muslim where “mass violence” against Christians took place.

7. Albania: Converted to Islam under Ottoman rule, remains largely Muslim today.

8. Azerbaijan: Before the Islamic conquests, Azerbaijan was a predominantly Christian region, influenced by the Persian Empire and the Byzantine Empire. Now it is 97% Muslim.

I believe Christianity is no better or worse than any other religion. What I have an issue with is when someone confuses an Islamic culture with Islam itself. They generally compare the worst of Islamic actions with the best of Christian actions.

 

[BreezeWood]

all three desert religions have the same preamble written into their bibles including the false commandments claimed by judaism, moses that never existed making all three religions forgeries.

islam doubtfully will be a threat in this country despite scotus unfounded religious protections.

 

[Foxfyre]

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Christianity is not "diverse".


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Weeeeellll, since there are an estimated 45,000 Christian denominations representing 2.5 billion or so Christians around the world, that looks pretty 'diverse' to me.

Each one differs either just a bit or a lot in its rules, dogma, doctrine, perspective, interpretations.

For me Christianity is less a religion and is a relationship, but opinions about that are diverse too.

For sure the Christian religion overall has had its sins. The Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem Witch burnings, persecution of Jews et al were all among the darkest history of the Christian religion. That would be religion and not Christian faith.

But those who died or were harmed at the hands of Christians are miniscule when compared to the hundreds of thousands or millions who were murdered by Roman paganism, militant Islam, under Atheism.

Christians have also done the most in the world to selflessly help people, relieve suffering, hunger, and sickness. It isn't Islam or Atheists running the leper colonies, staffing orphanages, running soup kitchens and thrift shops or staging food drives and transporting life saving food and medicine into sometimes dangerous disaster areas, going into some of the world's most desperate and needy areas to do hands on ministry. You may fault some of her theology, but there is no Mother Teresa among Atheists or Islam working with the most desperate of Calcutta.

And today around the world, more than a dozen Christians are murdered for their faith every day. Countless others persecuted. No other group is as hated or persecuted except maybe the Jews.

The question remains whether Christianity is its own religion or a continuation or evolvement of Judaism. There is a lot of diversity of opinion on that too.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Weeeeellll, since there are an estimated 45,000 Christian denominations representing 2.5 billion or so Christians around the world, that looks pretty 'diverse' to me.

Each one differs either just a bit or a lot in its rules, dogma, doctrine, perspective, interpretations.

For me Christianity is less a religion and is a relationship, but opinions about that are diverse too.

For sure the Christian faith overall has had its sins. The Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem Witch burnings, persecution of Jews et al were all among the darkest history of the Christian religion. That would be religion and not Christian faith.

But those who died at the hands of Christians are miniscule when compared to the hundreds of thousands or millions who were murdered by Roman paganism, militant Islam, under Atheism.

Christians have also done the most in the world to selflessly help people, relieve suffering, hunger, and sickness. It isn't Islam or Atheists running the leper colonies, staffing orphanages, running soup kitchens and thrift shops or staging food drives and transporting life saving food and medicine into sometimes dangerous disaster areas, going into some of the world's most desperate and needy areas to do hands on ministry. You may fault some of her theology, but there is no Mother Teresa among Atheists or Islam working with the most desperate of Calcutta.

And today around the world, more than a dozen Christians are murdered for their faith every day. No other group is as hated or persecuted except maybe the Jews.

The question remains whether Christianity is its own religion or a continuation or evolvement of Judaism. There is a lot of diversity of opinion on that too.

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All stuff that the Christ haters refuse to see.


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[LuckyDuck01!]

I believe Christianity is no better or worse than any other religion. What I have an issue with is when someone confuses an Islamic culture with Islam itself. They generally compare the worst of Islamic actions with the best of Christian actions.

An interviewer spoke with a United Arab Emarite Arab regarding the conflict between Israelis and Hamas. The Arab said (I'll have to paraphrase), "Islam is a conquering religion and the conflict between Palestinians and the Jews is not about territory. It wasn't about territory in 1947, 1956. 1973 or 2023. It's about subjugation."
Definition of subjugation: Bring someone under domination or control, generally by military brute force.
This is Islam's goal all over the world
Islam is divided into two houses:
1. House of Islam: The teachings and practices of Islam.
2. House of War: Waging war on non-believers through both conventional and asymmetrical (guerilla) tactics.
Muhammad went to the Judeans/Hebrews and preached to them. They laughed at his teachings and cast him out. His response was brutal to say the least. Everywhere he and his followers went, the Judeans/Hebrews were butchered. The Quran tells its followers to hate the Jews and kill them. It also tells them that any people who worship a person as a God are blasphemous and should be killed. It instructs its followers to kill any who leave the Islamic religion.
It's a Death Cult; hence all of the violence committed across the entire planet in the name of Allah (Allahu Akhbar), and it's not a very small number of individuals in the religion. A PEW Study done years ago found that a third of Muslims believe that all non-believers must be converted, subjugated, or killed. With the population of Islam being over a billion people, that would be the equivalent population of the United States.
There being no or extremely few non-Muslims in Muslim nations is just happenstance, your ignorance would be showing. The non-believers were either converted, killed or driven out.
Learn Shariah Law and decide how acceptable it is, as that is the primary law in their nations and you can forget women being even remotely equal.

 

[Foxfyre]

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All stuff that the Christ haters refuse to see.


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Yes. Christianity teaches that all sin and fall short. Which is why we needed a Savior in the first place. Humans will sin. All humans. "Sin' is that which harms us and/or others either by commission on omission.

But whether they hate politics or religion, the haters focus on the sin alone and never the much greater alternative good that is done. When it suits them they blame the sins of people who lived long ago for all the trouble in the world now, but ignore the good they did. They will not accuse those who are blatantly sinning and harming people now if those people do not represent the religion or politics they hate.

It is an amazing thing to watch.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Yes. Christianity teaches that all sin and fall short. Which is why we needed a Savior in the first place. Humans will sin. All humans. "Sin' is that which harms us and/or others either by commission on omission.

But whether they hate politics or religion, the haters focus on the sin alone and never the alternative good that is done. When it suits them they blame the sins of people who lived long ago for all the trouble in the world now, but will not accuse those who are blatantly sinning and harming people now if those people do not represent the religion or politics they hate.

It is an amazing thing to watch.

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Well said!


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[BreezeWood]

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All stuff that the Christ haters refuse to see.


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4th century christianity is its own creation of a false belief of a messiah sent from the heavens that jesus denied by omission at their trials entrapment by judaism - they chose rather to die than respond to their false allegations is why he was crucified.

- the sickness of christianity is their 4th century bible and has nothing to do with jesus or the true events of the 1st century.

 

[Votto]

I am critical of all religions. Organized religion is the bane of humanity.

As far as I know, And I have looked, there is only one religion that has never killed or marginalized people of different religions, races or opinions, and that is Jainism.

And I suspect they just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Christianity had a dark spell when it formed a theocracy. Simply put, the righteousness of God cannot be found in the politics of man, because the politics of man is simply man seeking power over other men, something that God warned against in 1 Samuel 8 when the people demanded a human king to be like all the other nations. To this day, Christians are referred to as "Crusaders" in the Middle East because of supposed Christians adhering to the theocratic model God warned against in 1 Samuel 8. But the list of evil actions during this theocratic period is endless, with Inquisitions and Jewish ghettos and a never-ending list of horrific outcomes from the said theocracy.

However, Islam is all about human politics. In fact, Islam is more of a political movement than a belief.

Islam as a Political Force: More Than Belief

Religion and the Public Sphere, February 10, 2017The politicization of religion cannot be explained by the ideas of religious doctrines but by the interactions between religious and political actors, institutions and ideas argues Jocelyne Cesari. In the Muslim world, the...

berkleycenter.georgetown.edu

That is because it is primarily focused on spreading Sharia law to try and achieve utopia, or as the Left would say, social justice.

Christians learned long ago, or at least hopefully learned, that they should never return to those theocratic days of old, but Islam is unfortunately stuck there.

 

[BreezeWood]

Yes. Christianity teaches that all sin and fall short. Which is why we needed a Savior in the first place.

that is not the 1st century events or the teachings of jesus - as taught by jesus to sin no more being the path to the everlasting - the heavenly goal granted a&e when sent on their journey.

those events were the repudiation of judaism false commandments hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid et all not servitude and denial rather self determination liberation theology.

 

[Foxfyre]

that is not the 1st century events or the teachings of jesus - as taught by jesus to sin no more being the path to the everlasting - the heavenly goal granted a&e when sent on their journey.

those events were the repudiation of judaism false commandments hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid et all not servitude and denial rather self determination liberation theology.

Wrong. But have a nice day.

 

[Votto]

I believe Christianity is no better or worse than any other religion. What I have an issue with is when someone confuses an Islamic culture with Islam itself. They generally compare the worst of Islamic actions with the best of Christian actions.

I know, I hear this sort of things all the time

After all, Islam purports to adhere to Biblical teachings, right?

Just look at the 5 pillars of Islam

1. Faith
2. Prayer
3. Almsgiving
4. Fasting
5. Pilgrimage

All of these can be found in the Bible somewhere, except maybe the pilgrimage pillar.

Anyhew, how then can it be sooo different from Christianity?

Just look at predominate Islamic countries in the world. They lead the world in terrorism

Global Terrorism Index - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Look at how to this day women and gays are persecuted and murdered as it is accepted in all these countries, and spreading.

The issue for me is that Mohammad was a third-rate warlord who converted with the sword. Again, his main interest was political conquest. Specifically, Mohammad enlists the theology of jihad to implement Islam's version of social justice. There is no need for a trial and a court of law, just immediate social justice via vigilantism.

But isn't Islam a Biblical religion?

Funny fact, the Bible mentions a "False Prophet" in Revelation that will deceive many and turn many away from God. Logically, this False Prophet will mirror Biblical teachings. That is just logical is all. In addition, Biblical prophecy has come to life in the form of Mohammad if indeed he is the Biblical False Prophet spoken of in Revelation. In fact, this is the only possible role for Mohammed to fulfill any Biblical prophecy. If not, if you are Muslim, where is the prophesy of the Great Prophet to "fix" all the theological errors in the Biblical text?

 

[BreezeWood]

Wrong. But have a nice day.

jesus opposed the tyranny of judaism - false commandments prophets personifications from the beginning to the end.

simply the truth.

 

[toobfreak]

The vast majority of people on this site are very critical of Christianity, but say virtually nothing about other religions. Somehow, being critical of other religions around the world is considered bigoted.

Actually, I see a lot of support for Christianity here. Criticism of Christianity is easy because they advertise just turning the other cheek, but people fear criticizing other religions like Islam because folks get beheaded for that. At the very least, you might be moderated or banned maybe.

I was baptized Christian as a baby, grew up in the church. Christianity isn't today what it once was. Christianity is getting weak now. Churches are advocating unchristian things now hoping to attract people. The Pope condones homosexuality and tells the USA how to run its affairs--- I don't see any of that in the Bible.

People are obviously looking for leadership and not finding it in Christian leadership, so are turning elsewhere. Christianity has become weak. "Turn the other cheek" has been morphed from forgiving your fellow man for his minor trespasses and indiscretions, into total acceptance of all wrongs, never fighting back or defending what you believe in, and dismissing all actions as a sign of forgiveness.

Do you know what happens when a criminal is not punished for robbing your yard? He comes back to do it over and over again. The leaders of the Church have made themselves the victim and put themselves into the position of never fighting back, so naturally, Christianity is fading and losing.

 

[Foxfyre]

jesus opposed the tyranny of judaism - false commandments prophets personifications from the beginning to the end.

simply the truth.

Jesus opposed the tyranny of certain Jews who were doing evil. He certainly did not oppose Judaism itself.

 

[Votto]

Actually, I see a lot of support for Christianity here. Criticism of Christianity is easy because they advertise just turning the other cheek, but people fear criticizing other religions like Islam because folks get beheaded for that. At the very least, you might be moderated or banned maybe.

I was baptized Christian as a baby, grew up in the church. Christianity isn't today what it once was. Christianity is getting weak now. Churches are advocating unchristian things now hoping to attract people. The Pope condones homosexuality and tells the USA how to run its affairs--- I don't see any of that in the Bible.

People are obviously looking for leadership and not finding it in Christian leadership, so are turning elsewhere. Christianity has become weak. "Turn the other cheek" has been morphed from forgiving your fellow man for his minor trespasses and indiscretions, into total acceptance of all wrongs, never fighting back or defending what you believe in, and dismissing all actions as a sign of forgiveness.

Do you know what happens when a criminal is not punished for robbing your yard? He comes back to do it over and over again. The leaders of the Church have made themselves the victim and put themselves into the position of never fighting back, so naturally, Christianity is fading and losing.

Again, what you are seeing in the Catholic church is no different today than it was in the dark periods when the Pope acted more like a king than a spiritual leader in Europe. To this day, the Catholic church remains a sovereign state with it's own army. Problem is, Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world nor can be.
Jesus did not just preach this, he lived it. When Jesus performed the miracle of giving the people bread and fish, they wanted to make him their earthly king, but he refused.

John 6:15 Jesus, knowing that they intended to come and make him king by force, withdrew again to a mountain by himself.

And we can see this in other places in the Bible as well. Jesus told Pilate that if this world was his kingdom, his disciples would take swords and come rescue him, but they did not.

John 18:36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

I think one of the biggest black eyes the Catholic church ever received was when they refused to publicly condemn the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. For had they done so, the Nazis would have rounded them all up and murdered them all, as well as burning down the Vatican. Naturally, they would have looted their wealth beforehand, but you get the idea. The politics of men is all about earthly power and wealth. The Catholic church has simply engaged in idolatry in this area as well

And to this day, the Catholic church refuses to come down hard on genocide as they seem aloof as abortion on demand murders millions every year.

But it's not just the Catholic church. Any church that becomes more concerned about their political power, which they all tend to do at some point, fall into this trap.