Why is Building the Wall Wrong?

[Ray From Cleveland]

All that is nice, but try to get anybody in Congress to do any of these things. But even if you could, it would be fruitless without a wall. The wall is the foundation to tackling this problem.

The majority of the country doesn't want a wall. You ain't gettin' no wall. Period!

Fine with me. Keep the government closed down.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

None. That's why any of these so-called asylum seekers should have accepted Mexico's asylum offer. They declined.

That's why what Trump is doing today will aid in avoiding the deaths of those children. They won't be coming here in the first place.

You're a fucked up, inhuman piece of shit! I'd rather have them in this country than you.

Oh trust me, that I can whole heartedly believe.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So what happened the last time we tried to stop people from the middle-east from coming here? Oh, that's right, an activist Obama appointed judge stopped Trump.

That's because it was a racist law, you racist asshole.

I remember when the incoming Bush Administration was warned about people coming in here to do us harm by the outgoing Clinton Administration and he did nothing for 8 months.

What did you want him to do?

What Bush Knew Before Sept. 11

Now tell me page and paragraph where anything in the travel ban referred to race.

You know, you have to quit letting MSM tell you how to think. Try it yourself sometime.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The cheapest way is to create a strong enough deterrent so they don't come here in the first place. Lead by example. If you put out a welcome mat on our border, people are going to take that literally. Same holds true for a Not Welcome mat.

If your life and the life of your family is threatened in your own country and you come here seeking asylum as a last resort, inhuman pieces of shit like yourself have no right to stop them.

So you're saying this country doesn't belong to us, it belongs to the entire world? When did that happen?

The world population is 7.5 billion people. Excluding our population, that's about 7.2 billion. Given the fact that many people on the planet live like those in S/C America, how many of those 7.2 billion do you want to let in?

 

[ColonelAngus]

To be clear, millennials screaming that Trump is a Nazi have no idea about what true totalitarianism is all about.

There are no safe spaces.

 

[candycorn]

Possibly the lamest analogy ever.

Right, candyhead. You're 100% against the wall as ruining your way of life until I provide many examples where the very same thing is being done all the time all over the place to good effect that you were totally OK with. Only thing lame here is arguing with you.

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong again, douchebag. Every native born American has a right to stop them. Furthermore, their lives aren't threatened, only their standard of living.

You're such a fuckin' liar. As well as a bad American.

It isn't possible for that to be a lie, moron. It's an opinion, and it's far more credible than yours. The theory that foreigners have a right to emigrate here couldn't be more idiotic.

1) Despite the irrefutable FACT that this question was answered in court - in a case wherein a civilian border patrol got into a spat with undocumented foreigners trying to trespass over private property and effect an improper entry, you make that blatantly false claim???

Those who were brought into court even refused sound counsel to appeal the ruling

2) The Declaration of Independence states:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Do you know what the meaning of the word unalienable is? Can you explain how our Creator (whoever your God is) only gave citizens unalienable Rights?

It would appear to me that you are historically and legally ignorant on this point. So, your contention is, only citizens have rights and the government doles them out on the basis of your citizenship? If that is the case, you could stand on the border and pop the foreigner the moment they set foot on U.S. soil, right?

I mean, our county government allows us to kill squirrels when they come on our property. The squirrels are trespassing and have no rights. So, if the foreigners have no rights, how come you suppose it's against the law to use force against them if they come across your property? It's because they DO have Rights and it was people that support you who brought that ruling about.

You're an idiot. It's been legal to use force against trespassers for 250 years.

 

[OKTexas]

Your stupidity is showing now, the States do the redistricting not congress and the majority of the State legislatures aren't liberal. In fact liberal States will be losing seats to more conservative States.

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Due to republican voter fraud like in North Carolina?

Tissue? Funny how you commies claim fraud when everyone is required to play by the same rules.

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[Porter Rockwell]

You shouldn't try to educate the Trump is God supporters. Trump won because he got the most electoral votes. He lost the popular vote.

That leftist argument doesn't fly.

That argument doesn't fly, Ray, because it is a bullshit argument, used here over and over again (because it is all they have). The popular vote only counts or decides anything at the STATE level. Take away a couple of square miles of area around LA and NYC and Hillary lost the popular vote as well. Once you win a county or a state by two votes, it doesn't matter if you add 200,000 more---- you've already won. The democrats have wet dreams about someday making the USA a pure democracy (the popular vote a la mob rule) because they want to be the mob, but the founders were wise and realized that to be president, you should represent the people, so they created the Electoral College so that by winning, a far wider swath of people and states would be represented that never would have any voice in their government otherwise.

In the Left's world, winning would become very easy. Just win California (LA and SanFran) and New York (City) and every time you've won! Screw all the deplorables everywhere else. Why else do you think they are so adamant on filling up states with illegal Latino democrat voters?! I happen to know a lot of people both in California and New York who DON'T live in those areas (the Valley and upstate NY) and they HATE how these small city areas decide everything against their wishes.

For decades, the anti-white party has been telling their people that Republicans are a thing of the past. Old white men that are dying off. People who are stuck in the 1940's. A party losing political ground every year.

When Republicans do win, they must have cheated somehow because it just isn't possible. I'm a liberal, all my friends are liberals, most of my family is liberal, all the people at Starbucks are liberals, and everybody in my state is liberal. Sure, there are Republicans; here and there; in flyover country, some on yachts, in pickup trucks with gun racks. But the rest of the country is like me.....liberal.

The Democrat party cannot tell their constituents the truth, otherwise many would lose faith and might quit voting. So they need to lie to them.

Donald Trump: James Comey, Russian collusion, the Electoral College, third party candidate, unequal campaign coverage, subservient white women who take voting orders from their Republican husbands.

2010 Republican victory in Congress: Voter-ID, voter suppression, gerrymandering.

George Bush reelection: Diebold machines, gerrymandering.

George Bush election: hanging chads, selected not elected, brother is the Governor, voter purging.

Brainwashing dictates they tell their constituents they never lost, they won, it's just the Republicans found a way to cheat them somehow. Liberals are way too closed minded to see a pattern like I listed above.

IF America were still white and IF Americans still respected the basics of our Declaration of Independence, Constitution,and founding principles then they could count on being re-elected. The reality is, when the economy was improving, the Democrats took the House. In Georgia where a lot of precincts are up to 87 percent white Republicans, a fraction of 1 percent of the votes separated the candidates for governor and the race for Secretary of State had to have a second run-off, neither major candidate getting 50 percent of the vote. A LOT of races here were decided by less than one percent of the vote.

I think that when America swings left again, they are going to make you sorry that you had such a cocky attitude. You should win with grace and style and NOT give your political opponents a reason to hate you. It only guarantees that they will show up on election day.

Lots of leftists are fleeing their high taxed states and polluting lower taxed red states. So unfortunately, you are seeing changes.

However a large part of change comes from liberalism. If you look at statistics, less people are claiming to be religious or believe in God. More people believe in Socialism. This is especially true of younger people and college kids. This is the era of "gimme."

So evil is spreading as planned and we on the right are trying to fight the will of Satan. People are becoming less and less responsible every year. More and more people want government to handle all their personal and financial affairs.

I don't know what will happen in 50 years from now, but I"m glad I'll be off this earth by then. Because the great experiment is coming to an end. Once Democrats wipe out white people and make us a minority, we will have a single-party government forever. Socialism will then be the new government quickly followed by Communism. The only hope I have is that they don't destroy history books like they are with statues and religious items today so people in the future can figure out where we went wrong and how we failed them.

And so, Ray, we failed as a nation for turning our backs against God. America became the greatest nation in the annals of history when we were keeping the Commandments of God. I belong to the Anglo-Israelite Christian Church. Among our tenets of faith is that we believe America is the New Jerusalem of the Bible and that the Anglo Saxon, Scandinavian, Germanic, Teutonic and kindred people are those that are Christ's servants and those destined to bless the world - which we have. Our race has provided the bulk of soldiers to die in foreign wars in the name of Liberty; we've provided more than 90 percent of the world's missionaries; created the bulk of the world's wealth; stopped slavery; poured more money into research to cure diseases, etc., etc.

The immigration issue is a diversionary tactic and a byproduct of what is known as the Hegelian Principle: Thesis + Anti-Thesis = Synthesis. The globalists play the political game very well. Create the problem (Thesis.) Create the opposition, hysteria and the chaos while advocating that something be done (Anti-Thesis.) Then produce a list of solutions and allow the sheeple pick from those pre-planned solutions (Synthesis.)

As it turns out, the solutions the globalists gave the sheeple to work with is predicated upon lies that, if you could understand their ultimate destination, end in slavery, oppression and inevitable genocide for the posterity of the founders of America. You are an unwitting pawn in a very sick game. What you fret over are symptoms of much larger problem in this world. Since you only see what the puppetmasters want you to see, you suffer from what is known as BIAS CONFIRMATION.

Bias confirmation happens when you are only interested in facts and information that lead credence to your point of view. As a result of this bias, you reject all knowledge that does not prove your point. Then you assume that everyone that disagrees with your opinions, certainly must be liberals. Well, I have opinions too. And my solutions are just like those from the left and the right: my own ideas have flaws. But I am not affected by bias confirmation so if the left points out the truth I can accept it; if the right slings skeet and lies, I can condemn it.

What I can tell you is that the left hates the Constitution; they hate the posterity of the founding fathers and every principle they stood for. They hate your race; they have an issue with Christianity; they oppose the foundational principles upon which this country was founded. Unfortunately, many of the people on the right have joined them and little separates them. When you stoop to their level in trying to articulate your points and refuse to understand that all sides have facts on their side, you lose those that are on the sidelines looking in.

 

[OKTexas]

Trump was voted in because of the wall, that is building power.

Not from the majority of Americans.

You shouldn't try to educate the Trump is God supporters. Trump won because he got the most electoral votes. He lost the popular vote.

In 2020 the liberals get to change the federal Congressional districts. By pushing B.S. laws that offend the masses, the Republicans are absolutely guaranteeing they will be in the minority in just about every district in America after 2020.

I'm not a liberal, but once these arrogant build the wall guys get knocked on their ass, they can decide to fight or die. They are not strategists. 2020 won't come none too soon.

Your stupidity is showing now, the States do the redistricting not congress and the majority of the State legislatures aren't liberal. In fact liberal States will be losing seats to more conservative States.

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Redistricting is subject to Congressional approval. And I hate to bust your bubble son, but it is not liberals have been gaining so much ground, but in states where it REALLY matters - places where there are a lot of electoral college votes, the liberals have been taking over districts AND areas near red districts so as to be able to dilute the Republican votes in the future.

Wrong again, congress has nothing to do with it. The courts sometimes gets involved but never congress.

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[Porter Rockwell]

Wrong again, douchebag. Every native born American has a right to stop them. Furthermore, their lives aren't threatened, only their standard of living.

You're such a fuckin' liar. As well as a bad American.

It isn't possible for that to be a lie, moron. It's an opinion, and it's far more credible than yours. The theory that foreigners have a right to emigrate here couldn't be more idiotic.

1) Despite the irrefutable FACT that this question was answered in court - in a case wherein a civilian border patrol got into a spat with undocumented foreigners trying to trespass over private property and effect an improper entry, you make that blatantly false claim???

Those who were brought into court even refused sound counsel to appeal the ruling

2) The Declaration of Independence states:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Do you know what the meaning of the word unalienable is? Can you explain how our Creator (whoever your God is) only gave citizens unalienable Rights?

It would appear to me that you are historically and legally ignorant on this point. So, your contention is, only citizens have rights and the government doles them out on the basis of your citizenship? If that is the case, you could stand on the border and pop the foreigner the moment they set foot on U.S. soil, right?

I mean, our county government allows us to kill squirrels when they come on our property. The squirrels are trespassing and have no rights. So, if the foreigners have no rights, how come you suppose it's against the law to use force against them if they come across your property? It's because they DO have Rights and it was people that support you who brought that ruling about.

You're an idiot. It's been legal to use force against trespassers for 250 years.

Ray is the most disrespectful person on this board. You are the most ignorant. Calling people names is a testament to your character.

The fact is, it is YOUR fault that the courts put people just like you in prison and then declared that undocumented have civil rights - and those civil rights trumped those who think just like you.

If people had a Right to protect private property, all private property along the border would be being protected by civilian militias.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A- Cost prohibitive
B- Won't work
C- It's racist
D- It would reduce those successfully crossing the border
E- None of the Above

The machine benefits by not having a wall. Business (Republicans) get their cheap labor and (Democrats) get the votes

You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours

There is no excuse for the Republicans not funding the wall.

-Geaux

Because bigotry and hate are wrong.

 

[Geaux4it]

A- Cost prohibitive
B- Won't work
C- It's racist
D- It would reduce those successfully crossing the border
E- None of the Above

The machine benefits by not having a wall. Business (Republicans) get their cheap labor and (Democrats) get the votes

You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours

There is no excuse for the Republicans not funding the wall.

-Geaux

Because bigotry and hate are wrong.

And your point?

-Geaux

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong again, douchebag. Every native born American has a right to stop them. Furthermore, their lives aren't threatened, only their standard of living.

You're such a fuckin' liar. As well as a bad American.

It isn't possible for that to be a lie, moron. It's an opinion, and it's far more credible than yours. The theory that foreigners have a right to emigrate here couldn't be more idiotic.

1) Despite the irrefutable FACT that this question was answered in court - in a case wherein a civilian border patrol got into a spat with undocumented foreigners trying to trespass over private property and effect an improper entry, you make that blatantly false claim???

Those who were brought into court even refused sound counsel to appeal the ruling

2) The Declaration of Independence states:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Do you know what the meaning of the word unalienable is? Can you explain how our Creator (whoever your God is) only gave citizens unalienable Rights?

It would appear to me that you are historically and legally ignorant on this point. So, your contention is, only citizens have rights and the government doles them out on the basis of your citizenship? If that is the case, you could stand on the border and pop the foreigner the moment they set foot on U.S. soil, right?

I mean, our county government allows us to kill squirrels when they come on our property. The squirrels are trespassing and have no rights. So, if the foreigners have no rights, how come you suppose it's against the law to use force against them if they come across your property? It's because they DO have Rights and it was people that support you who brought that ruling about.

You're an idiot. It's been legal to use force against trespassers for 250 years.

Ray is the most disrespectful person on this board. You are the most ignorant. Calling people names is a testament to your character.

The fact is, it is YOUR fault that the courts put people just like you in prison and then declared that undocumented have civil rights - and those civil rights trumped those who think just like you.

If people had a Right to protect private property, all private property along the border would be being protected by civilian militias.

You're a certifiable idiot. People have a right to use force to protect their property. The fact is irrefutable. I have personally had a shotgun pointed in my direction by a rancher because we were on his land.

Debating you is a waste of time because so much of what you believe just isn't true.

 

[bripat9643]

A- Cost prohibitive
B- Won't work
C- It's racist
D- It would reduce those successfully crossing the border
E- None of the Above

The machine benefits by not having a wall. Business (Republicans) get their cheap labor and (Democrats) get the votes

You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours

There is no excuse for the Republicans not funding the wall.

-Geaux

Because bigotry and hate are wrong.

What you are really saying is that wisdom and prudence are wrong. People aren't required to turn off their brains to serve your idiotic ideals that say people are all the same. They aren't, and some are far worse than others.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You're such a fuckin' liar. As well as a bad American.

It isn't possible for that to be a lie, moron. It's an opinion, and it's far more credible than yours. The theory that foreigners have a right to emigrate here couldn't be more idiotic.

1) Despite the irrefutable FACT that this question was answered in court - in a case wherein a civilian border patrol got into a spat with undocumented foreigners trying to trespass over private property and effect an improper entry, you make that blatantly false claim???

Those who were brought into court even refused sound counsel to appeal the ruling

2) The Declaration of Independence states:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Do you know what the meaning of the word unalienable is? Can you explain how our Creator (whoever your God is) only gave citizens unalienable Rights?

It would appear to me that you are historically and legally ignorant on this point. So, your contention is, only citizens have rights and the government doles them out on the basis of your citizenship? If that is the case, you could stand on the border and pop the foreigner the moment they set foot on U.S. soil, right?

I mean, our county government allows us to kill squirrels when they come on our property. The squirrels are trespassing and have no rights. So, if the foreigners have no rights, how come you suppose it's against the law to use force against them if they come across your property? It's because they DO have Rights and it was people that support you who brought that ruling about.

You're an idiot. It's been legal to use force against trespassers for 250 years.

Ray is the most disrespectful person on this board. You are the most ignorant. Calling people names is a testament to your character.

The fact is, it is YOUR fault that the courts put people just like you in prison and then declared that undocumented have civil rights - and those civil rights trumped those who think just like you.

If people had a Right to protect private property, all private property along the border would be being protected by civilian militias.

You're a certifiable idiot. People have a right to use force to protect their property. The fact is irrefutable. I have personally had a shotgun pointed in my direction by a rancher because we were on his land.

Debating you is a waste of time because so much of what you believe just isn't true.

You are an aggravating blowhard that don't have an IQ that is equivalent to his shoe size.

The bottom line is that the lie you just told would make even an idiot look like a freaking Einstein. Enough of this lying mental midgetry. Let's get down and dirty and tell the people the truth. I'd bet dollars against doughnuts that your dumb ass was, most likely, among those that caused this sh!+storm to begin in the first place.

Back in 2003 some Salvadorans were attempting to cross the border and enter the United States improperly. Unfortunately (later fortunately for them), it was private property and it was posted. In addition, the property was being guarded by Ranch Rescue, a civilian border patrol watch group.

The trespassing foreigners attempting an improper entry got into a tiff with Ranch Rescue whereupon Ranch Rescue ending up winning that altercation. The matter ended up in court. Ranch Rescue members were sent to prison; the land owner lost his property and his home to the undocumented foreigners.The ACLU went home, laughing all the way to the bank.

Both Ranch Rescue AND Jack Foote (the property owner) rejected the advice to appeal the decision. In the court's RULING, he said that Ranch Rescue "violated the civil rights" of the foreigners who were tryig to come into the U.S. improperly. Any way you slice it and any way you dice it, the facts are unequivocal:

* The undocumented foreigners not only have rights, but rights that trump those of American property owners

* Jack Foote did NOT have the right to protect his own private property. He lost it for trying.

AFTER that event, civilian militias gave up on saving America and allowed themselves to be recruited by neo nazis in some lame ass scheme to pretend to be an extension of Homeland (IN) Security and adopt David Duke's Border Watch scheme (Duke being a former neo nazi turned KKK leader.) It's been a pissing match ever since with the constitutionalists and patriots of the period (pre 2003) being ignored by the mainstream media as bripat9643 and his ilk serve as useful idiots, working to institute Bill Clinton's silliness as the gold standard by which the rest of America would be judged.

That is why, for a fact, the build the wall guys are asking you why we can't be like Mexico and reminding us every day about communist China's wall. They want to be at war like the Israelis and they want us to have the same kind of atmosphere the people had while maintaining the Berlin Wall. EVERY reference to their utopia is related to communist, socialist and tyrannical regimes and / or nations at war. The bulk of their news is what they get from media owned by a board of director on the Council on Foreign Relations.

People like bripat9643 are little more than change agents for the NEW WORLD ORDER. But, you have the facts and any of you that want to check it out can research it for yourselves. bripat9643 may think that name calling and using controversial language will be enough to hide what he is and what it he is doing. I don't think it is. That is why he is constantly trying to tell you I'm an idiot. He's projecting what he realizes what he is. But, people like Rupert Murdoch own him and those who waste their ever waking moment worrying about that damn wall. NEVER do they talk about what they want to do for their fellow Anmericans. I have and do. NEVER will you hear them extol the virtues of Liberty. I have and do. NEVER do they interject the Constitution into their phony "debate." I have and do.

The moment bripat9643 began calling people names, he lost any "debate" that might have been going on. ALL that troll has is name calling and trying to disrupt any chance of the different sides being able to have a productive conversation because, even being the most ignorant individual on this thread, he realizes his side LOST any pretend debate.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

A- Cost prohibitive
B- Won't work
C- It's racist
D- It would reduce those successfully crossing the border
E- None of the Above

The machine benefits by not having a wall. Business (Republicans) get their cheap labor and (Democrats) get the votes

You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours

There is no excuse for the Republicans not funding the wall.

-Geaux

Because bigotry and hate are wrong.

What you are really saying is that wisdom and prudence are wrong. People aren't required to turn off their brains to serve your idiotic ideals that say people are all the same. They aren't, and some are far worse than others.

Sounds like more of your paranoid projection. Wisdom and prudence are not your strong suit.

 

[bripat9643]

It isn't possible for that to be a lie, moron. It's an opinion, and it's far more credible than yours. The theory that foreigners have a right to emigrate here couldn't be more idiotic.

1) Despite the irrefutable FACT that this question was answered in court - in a case wherein a civilian border patrol got into a spat with undocumented foreigners trying to trespass over private property and effect an improper entry, you make that blatantly false claim???

Those who were brought into court even refused sound counsel to appeal the ruling

2) The Declaration of Independence states:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Do you know what the meaning of the word unalienable is? Can you explain how our Creator (whoever your God is) only gave citizens unalienable Rights?

It would appear to me that you are historically and legally ignorant on this point. So, your contention is, only citizens have rights and the government doles them out on the basis of your citizenship? If that is the case, you could stand on the border and pop the foreigner the moment they set foot on U.S. soil, right?

I mean, our county government allows us to kill squirrels when they come on our property. The squirrels are trespassing and have no rights. So, if the foreigners have no rights, how come you suppose it's against the law to use force against them if they come across your property? It's because they DO have Rights and it was people that support you who brought that ruling about.

You're an idiot. It's been legal to use force against trespassers for 250 years.

Ray is the most disrespectful person on this board. You are the most ignorant. Calling people names is a testament to your character.

The fact is, it is YOUR fault that the courts put people just like you in prison and then declared that undocumented have civil rights - and those civil rights trumped those who think just like you.

If people had a Right to protect private property, all private property along the border would be being protected by civilian militias.

You're a certifiable idiot. People have a right to use force to protect their property. The fact is irrefutable. I have personally had a shotgun pointed in my direction by a rancher because we were on his land.

Debating you is a waste of time because so much of what you believe just isn't true.

You are an aggravating blowhard that don't have an IQ that is equivalent to his shoe size.

The bottom line is that the lie you just told would make even an idiot look like a freaking Einstein. Enough of this lying mental midgetry. Let's get down and dirty and tell the people the truth. I'd bet dollars against doughnuts that your dumb ass was, most likely, among those that caused this sh!+storm to begin in the first place.

Back in 2003 some Salvadorans were attempting to cross the border and enter the United States improperly. Unfortunately (later fortunately for them), it was private property and it was posted. In addition, the property was being guarded by Ranch Rescue, a civilian border patrol watch group.

The trespassing foreigners attempting an improper entry got into a tiff with Ranch Rescue whereupon Ranch Rescue ending up winning that altercation. The matter ended up in court. Ranch Rescue members were sent to prison; the land owner lost his property and his home to the undocumented foreigners.The ACLU went home, laughing all the way to the bank.

Both Ranch Rescue AND Jack Foote (the property owner) rejected the advice to appeal the decision. In the court's RULING, he said that Ranch Rescue "violated the civil rights" of the foreigners who were tryig to come into the U.S. improperly. Any way you slice it and any way you dice it, the facts are unequivocal:

* The undocumented foreigners not only have rights, but rights that trump those of American property owners

* Jack Foote did NOT have the right to protect his own private property. He lost it for trying.

AFTER that event, civilian militias gave up on saving America and allowed themselves to be recruited by neo nazis in some lame ass scheme to pretend to be an extension of Homeland (IN) Security and adopt David Duke's Border Watch scheme (Duke being a former neo nazi turned KKK leader.) It's been a pissing match ever since with the constitutionalists and patriots of the period (pre 2003) being ignored by the mainstream media as bripat9643 and his ilk serve as useful idiots, working to institute Bill Clinton's silliness as the gold standard by which the rest of America would be judged.

That is why, for a fact, the build the wall guys are asking you why we can't be like Mexico and reminding us every day about communist China's wall. They want to be at war like the Israelis and they want us to have the same kind of atmosphere the people had while maintaining the Berlin Wall. EVERY reference to their utopia is related to communist, socialist and tyrannical regimes and / or nations at war. The bulk of their news is what they get from media owned by a board of director on the Council on Foreign Relations.

People like bripat9643 are little more than change agents for the NEW WORLD ORDER. But, you have the facts and any of you that want to check it out can research it for yourselves. bripat9643 may think that name calling and using controversial language will be enough to hide what he is and what it he is doing. I don't think it is. That is why he is constantly trying to tell you I'm an idiot. He's projecting what he realizes what he is. But, people like Rupert Murdoch own him and those who waste their ever waking moment worrying about that damn wall. NEVER do they talk about what they want to do for their fellow Anmericans. I have and do. NEVER will you hear them extol the virtues of Liberty. I have and do. NEVER do they interject the Constitution into their phony "debate." I have and do.

The moment bripat9643 began calling people names, he lost any "debate" that might have been going on. ALL that troll has is name calling and trying to disrupt any chance of the different sides being able to have a productive conversation because, even being the most ignorant individual on this thread, he realizes his side LOST any pretend debate.

When it comes to posting stupid shit, you're right up their with danielpalos.

 

[bripat9643]

A- Cost prohibitive
B- Won't work
C- It's racist
D- It would reduce those successfully crossing the border
E- None of the Above

The machine benefits by not having a wall. Business (Republicans) get their cheap labor and (Democrats) get the votes

You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours

There is no excuse for the Republicans not funding the wall.

-Geaux

Because bigotry and hate are wrong.

What you are really saying is that wisdom and prudence are wrong. People aren't required to turn off their brains to serve your idiotic ideals that say people are all the same. They aren't, and some are far worse than others.

Sounds like more of your paranoid projection. Wisdom and prudence are not your strong suit.

So you are contesting my position that people are not all the same? Really?

 

[Skylar]

You're such a fuckin' liar. As well as a bad American.

It isn't possible for that to be a lie, moron. It's an opinion, and it's far more credible than yours. The theory that foreigners have a right to emigrate here couldn't be more idiotic.

1) Despite the irrefutable FACT that this question was answered in court - in a case wherein a civilian border patrol got into a spat with undocumented foreigners trying to trespass over private property and effect an improper entry, you make that blatantly false claim???

Those who were brought into court even refused sound counsel to appeal the ruling

2) The Declaration of Independence states:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Do you know what the meaning of the word unalienable is? Can you explain how our Creator (whoever your God is) only gave citizens unalienable Rights?

It would appear to me that you are historically and legally ignorant on this point. So, your contention is, only citizens have rights and the government doles them out on the basis of your citizenship? If that is the case, you could stand on the border and pop the foreigner the moment they set foot on U.S. soil, right?

I mean, our county government allows us to kill squirrels when they come on our property. The squirrels are trespassing and have no rights. So, if the foreigners have no rights, how come you suppose it's against the law to use force against them if they come across your property? It's because they DO have Rights and it was people that support you who brought that ruling about.

You're an idiot. It's been legal to use force against trespassers for 250 years.

Ray is the most disrespectful person on this board. You are the most ignorant. Calling people names is a testament to your character.

The fact is, it is YOUR fault that the courts put people just like you in prison and then declared that undocumented have civil rights - and those civil rights trumped those who think just like you.

If people had a Right to protect private property, all private property along the border would be being protected by civilian militias.

You're a certifiable idiot. People have a right to use force to protect their property. The fact is irrefutable. I have personally had a shotgun pointed in my direction by a rancher because we were on his land.

Debating you is a waste of time because so much of what you believe just isn't true.

Most states don't recognize the use of lethal force for mere trespassing. Deadly force in the defense of one's life is permitted. Deadly force in defense of property alone generally isn't. Most uses of lethal force must be in response to reasonable fear of serious, imminent bodily harm to oneself or others