Zone1 Why is antisemitism so much more prevalent among blacks than whites - 4x worse in the most antisemitic category?

[IM2]

Exactly...
Or any kind of supremacy. All these little test your IQ are feel good shams.
IQ tests only one thing. How well you can take the IQ test.

Exactly. Well stated..

 

[Hector12]

Actually…no. It is not easy, unless you ignore a lot of inconvenient data.

Let’s look at just illegitimacy. What data do you have to support that claim?

The only way I can see to measure that is children living in single parent families, most commonly the mother.

The US has the highest rate of single parents.

Most of Africa is far far below that.

U.S. children are more likely than children elsewhere to live in single-parent homes

www.pewresearch.org

Your theory regarding racial differences in illegitimacy is a massive fail.

Irrelevant. It’s an example of junk science.

You dismiss facts that you choose to disbelieve. There are plenty of agencies, both governmental and private, that collect credible data about racial differences in illegitimacy. They also collect credible data about the connection between illegitimacy and other forms of social dysfunction. Brookings is one of them.

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Editor's Note:
This Policy Brief was prepared for the Fall 1996 issue of the Brookings Review and adapted from "An Analysis of Out-of-Wedlock Childbearing in the United States," which appeared in the May 1996 issue of the Quarterly Journal of Economics.

ince 1970, out-of-wedlock birth rates have soared. In 1965, 24 percent of black infants and 3.1 percent of white infants were born to single mothers. By 1990 the rates had risen to 64 percent for black infants, 18 percent for whites. Every year about one million more children are born into fatherless families. If we have learned any policy lesson well over the past 25 years, it is that for children living in single-parent homes, the odds of living in poverty are great. The policy implications of the increase in out-of-wedlock births are staggering.

An analysis of out-of-wedlock births in the United States

George Akerlof and Janet Yellen look at the decline in shotgun marriages and rise in the births out of wedlock.

www.brookings.edu

 

[Hector12]

But you hate blacks.

Not all of them. Only the criminals.

I evaluate blacks using the same criteria I use in evaluating individuals of other races. My standards are mild. All I really require is basic decency. If they lack felony convictions and illegitimate children, that is even better.

 

[Hector12]

Oh? Exactly what would be the goal of this dialogue?

The goal would be the dissemination of facts relevant to social policy and legal reform.

 

[Hector12]

Race realism or "scientific racvism" has been debunked by all credible sources in every area of human development.

Race realism has been condemned, but not debunked. It is easy to document racial differences in average ability and behavior. Scientific research is increasingly indicating that these differences are influenced, if not largely determined, genetically. I have quoted some of this evidence on the US Message Board.

 

[Hector12]

IQ tests are not accurate indicators of intelligence and the Bell Curve is a joke book trying to justify white supremacy.

You do not prove that by asserting it. The U.S. military pioneered IQ testing during the First World War. It remains committed to it, despite efforts to lower standards for certain demographics, because it has proven its ability to distinguish between those who can learn complex skills quickly and well and those who cannot.

 

[Hector12]

More intelligent then whom or in what ?

Read my previous sentence:

"Race realists acknowledge that East Asians tent to be more intelligent, more obedient to the law, and more monogamous than white Gentiles of European descent."

Orientals tend to be more intelligent in everything important to an increasingly complex and technological society. That is why in the United States they tend to be more prosperous than white Gentiles.

 

[Hector12]

Exactly...
Or any kind of supremacy. All these little test your IQ are feel good shams.
IQ tests only one thing. How well you can take the IQ test.

If that is true, why do so many private and governmental agencies test for mental aptitude?

For a century IQ tests, and tests whose results correlate with IQ, have proven their ability to predict academic and economic success within a high degree of probability. Those who test well may still perform poorly for other reasons: mental illness, lack of motivation, etc. Those who test poorly cannot perform well.

 

[Dagosa]

Read my previous sentence:

"Race realists acknowledge that East Asians tent to be more intelligent, more obedient to the law, and more monogamous than white Gentiles of European descent."

Orientals tend to be more intelligent in everything important to an increasingly complex and technological society. That is why in the United States they tend to be more prosperous than white Gentiles.

Repeat. More intelligent in what way ? You don’t seem to get it do you ? Intellect is measure in many ways and is expressed differently by different peoples. So again, better then whom and in what ways ?

 

[Dagosa]

For a century IQ tests, and tests whose results correlate with IQ, have proven their ability to predict academic and economic success within a high degree of probability

No they have not. That’s why we don’t use them anymore. It’s assinine to have one number assigned to one person as a measure of their entire intellect. It’s ridiculous.
Only ignorant people use IQ numbers anymore....it’s so stupid, it’s fking illegal in some cases. Name one corporation or agency that uses IQ numbers for hiring. Name one.

 

[Hector12]

Repeat. More intelligent in what way ? You don’t seem to get it do you ? Intellect is measure in many ways and is expressed differently by different peoples. So again, better then whom and in what ways ?

Intellectual abilities correlate in ways that intellectual ability does not correlate with athletic ability.

 

[Hector12]

No they have not. That’s why we don’t use them anymore. It’s assinine to have one number assigned to one person as a measure of their entire intellect. It’s ridiculous.
Only ignorant people use IQ numbers anymore....it’s so stupid, it’s fking illegal in some cases. Name one corporation or agency that uses IQ numbers for hiring. Name one.

The Atlantic,

The Truth About Income Inequality in America​

By Charles Murray
FEBRUARY 10, 2012

In the early 1990s, Bill Gates was asked what competitor worried him the most. Goldman Sachs, Gates answered. He explained: "Software is an IQ business. Microsoft must win the IQ war, or we won't have a future. I don't worry about Lotus or IBM, because the smartest guys would rather come to work for Microsoft. Our competitors for IQ are investment banks such as Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley." Gates's comment reflected a reality that has driven the formation of the new upper class: Over the last century, brains became much more valuable in the marketplace.

The Truth About Income Inequality in America

Of course the rich are getting richer. The best brains are more valuable in a high-tech economy. But the polarization of opportunity in America begins in our colleges.

www.theatlantic.com

Microsoft used to give prospective applicants IQ tests. When the Supreme Court prevented that Microsoft tests for IQ orally in the interviewing process.

 

[Dagosa]

Intellectual abilities correlate in ways that intellectual ability does not correlate with athletic ability.

What a bozo. Of course high intellect is needed to compete at the upper levels of athletics. You don’t know wtf you are talking about. IQ tests show nothing about the inclination to perform skills. That you can do a tough math problem in an hour, shows less intellect then being able to decide which pass to make on a defense that changed after the snap of a ball, or which middle system to use by a fighter pilot during a dog fight.

 

[Dagosa]

The Atlantic,

The Truth About Income Inequality in America​

By Charles Murray
FEBRUARY 10, 2012

In the early 1990s, Bill Gates was asked what competitor worried him the most. Goldman Sachs, Gates answered. He explained: "Software is an IQ business. Microsoft must win the IQ war, or we won't have a future. I don't worry about Lotus or IBM, because the smartest guys would rather come to work for Microsoft. Our competitors for IQ are investment banks such as Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley." Gates's comment reflected a reality that has driven the formation of the new upper class: Over the last century, brains became much more valuable in the marketplace.

The Truth About Income Inequality in America

Of course the rich are getting richer. The best brains are more valuable in a high-tech economy. But the polarization of opportunity in America begins in our colleges.

www.theatlantic.com

Microsoft used to give prospective applicants IQ tests. When the Supreme Court prevented that Microsoft tests for IQ orally in the interviewing process.

That’s bullshit. You don’t even know what IQ is now do you ? They ask oral questions to see if someone has the skill to express themselves ORALLY. GEESUS, you’re insane.

That you even say they measure IQ this way shows a lack of intellect on your part.

 

[Dagosa]

Read my previous sentence:

"Race realists acknowledge that East Asians tent to be more intelligent, more obedient to the law, and more monogamous than white Gentiles of European descent."

Orientals tend to be more intelligent in everything important to an increasingly complex and technological society. That is why in the United States they tend to be more prosperous than white Gentiles.

What a racist post.

 

[JoeB131]

The ancestors of Caucasians and Mongoloids did some mating with Neanderthals, but most of the gene alleles our ancestors acquired were not beneficial, and have been bred out of our gene pools. DNA taken from the skeletons of humans who lived ten thousand years ago in Europe have more Neanderthal alleles than modern Europeans.

"Mongoloids"? Man, seriously, do you use all the outdated racial terms?

I have had to pass mental aptitude tests to get computer programming positions.

Too bad you didn't have to pass decency tests.

Race realists acknowledge that East Asians tent to be more intelligent, more obedient to the law, and more monogamous than white Gentiles of European descent.

The assertions of race realism are not junk science: they are carefully documented.

"Race Realists" use the actions of a small minority to ignore the crimes committed against blacks over 400 years of stupidity.

Of course, "East Asians" were considered inferior by "Race Realists" pretty much up until the late 20th Century. Just take a look at any WWII or Cold War propaganda.

 

[JoeB131]

That was all abolished generations ago, and restitution was made by favoring blacks for admissions and jobs.

The Holocaust was generations ago and didn't even happen in this country, and you still use it as an excuse.

Just telling you what the stats say - blacks as a group have more antisemitic attitudes than whites. And calling Jews “termites,” (Farrakhan), blaming “greedy Jews” for a snowstorm (a black bigot on the DC council), and distributing an antisemitic meme (the black chapter leader of the NAACP) are just three prominent examples.

But do you ever ask yourself WHY they have all this hostility? Is it because they deal with greedy Jewish merchants and Landlords that take advantage of them.

At the root, I believe antisemitism among blacks is due to jealousy of successful persecuted minority.

Yes, it has nothing to do with what landlords and merchants do, or the Karen who calls the cops on black kids who are just minding their own business.

 

[JoeB131]

Blacks were not enslaved by whites. They were enslaved by other blacks when slavery was rife in Africa, and slaves were sometimes the victims of cannibalism and human sacrifice.

I have read that Negro slaves in the United States tended to be taller as adults and to live longer than free Negroes in sub Saharan Africa. That indicates better health.

Wow, you are hitting ALL the racist memes, aren't you.

Let's get something clear. Slavery was part of human existence all the way up to the industrial age, when machines took over much of the arduous labor. But what made the trans-Atlantic trade so egregious was the shear scale of it. Millions of people kidnapped, half of them dying on the voyage.

As far as "Human Sacrifice", um, white people did that to. They were called "Witch Burnings".

I am not in any way justifying the slave trade. I think it was the worst mistake European settlers and their descendants in the Americas made.

Yes, it means you have to live next to Jamal today.

It is worth mentioning that American Negroes today tend to be more prosperous and in better health than African Negroes.

You mean after Europeans looted Africa of all its resources?

It could also be that due to the brutality of the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, that the weaker slaves didn't survive the voyage, meaning only the stronger ones got here.

True - but humanity has kind of developed in the past 150,000 years - right onto Women's rights. So if you screw around then your wife or girlfriend will feel free to do so as well.
Some man and women don't like this idea or are willing to face those consequences and therefore try to stay monogamous. Independent of religious dogmas.

Meh, let's get real here. Until about a century ago, patriarchal societies considered women to be property. And some of them still do. (I'm looking at you, Mormons!) Proper gentlemen had mistresses. The truly wealthy had concubines.

Cold climate has nothing to do with superior humans developing around 15,000 years ago - since all known sites were located along warm river deltas. Climate however has certainly to do with today's modern human beings (starting around 3000 years ago) - since it is known that people living in warm climate zones have siestas and hide out in the shade, (not working or being active for 3-5h/day) in contra to those living in colder zones.

I agree, but the Race Realist was trying to claim it did.

 

[JoeB131]

You dismiss facts that you choose to disbelieve. There are plenty of agencies, both governmental and private, that collect credible data about racial differences in illegitimacy. They also collect credible data about the connection between illegitimacy and other forms of social dysfunction. Brookings is one of them.

---------

Editor's Note:
This Policy Brief was prepared for the Fall 1996 issue of the Brookings Review and adapted from "An Analysis of Out-of-Wedlock Childbearing in the United States," which appeared in the May 1996 issue of the Quarterly Journal of Economics.

ince 1970, out-of-wedlock birth rates have soared. In 1965, 24 percent of black infants and 3.1 percent of white infants were born to single mothers. By 1990 the rates had risen to 64 percent for black infants, 18 percent for whites. Every year about one million more children are born into fatherless families. If we have learned any policy lesson well over the past 25 years, it is that for children living in single-parent homes, the odds of living in poverty are great. The policy implications of the increase in out-of-wedlock births are staggering.

Or maybe marriage is just an outmoded concept. Of those 70% of white kids born in wedlock, how many of their parents eventually get divorced?

So you have a black family who don't get married, but the father is often involved in the child's life.
While a white family, the father has run off with the secretary and you have to pull his teeth for visitation and child support.

 

[Hector12]

Too bad you didn't have to pass decency tests.

You've got nerve talking about decency.