Why is abortion the SCOTUS litmus test?

[manifold]

Does it bother anyone else that abortion rights has become the litmus test for acceptable Supreme Court justices? I'm very much pro-choice, but it bugs the ever-lovin crap out of me that this is the only issue that seems to matter when it comes to SCOTUS appointee approvals. And thanks to this reality, we end up with a court that hands down an unprecedented miscarriage of justice like the Kelo vs. New London decision. Now go ahead and call me selfish and sexist, but when it comes to priorities, I'd rather allow states to outlaw abortion than allow them to take my land for private use against my will.

Just sayin...

 

[jillian]

Does it bother anyone else that abortion rights has become the litmus test for acceptable Supreme Court justices? I'm very much pro-choice, but it bugs the ever-lovin crap out of me that this is the only issue that seems to matter when it comes to SCOTUS appointee approvals. And thanks to this reality, we end up with a court that hands down an unprecedented miscarriage of justice like the Kelo vs. New London decision. Now go ahead and call me selfish and sexist, but when it comes to priorities, I'd rather allow states to outlaw abortion than allow them to take my land for private use against my will.

Just sayin...

Kelo didn't come down the way it did because people who were opposed to abortion supported the ruling.

The problem is that Kelo really is in keeping with the precedents. It's really nothing more than a zoning decision. Sometimes a decision is correct under the law and has a bad result. And that's what Kelo is, unfortunately.

BTW, you do know they had to pay them for the land, right? It wasn't just taken without compensation.

 

[Ravi]

Does it bother anyone else that abortion rights has become the litmus test for acceptable Supreme Court justices? I'm very much pro-choice, but it bugs the ever-lovin crap out of me that this is the only issue that seems to matter when it comes to SCOTUS appointee approvals. And thanks to this reality, we end up with a court that hands down an unprecedented miscarriage of justice like the Kelo vs. New London decision. Now go ahead and call me selfish and sexist, but when it comes to priorities, I'd rather allow states to outlaw abortion than allow them to take my land for private use against my will.

Just sayin...

If they can take my body against my will, they can take your body, too.

Which is more important to you--land or your self?

 

[Ravi]

Kelo didn't come down the way it did because people who were opposed to abortion supported the ruling.

The problem is that Kelo really is in keeping with the precedents. It's really nothing more than a zoning decision. Sometimes a decision is correct under the law and has a bad result. And that's what Kelo is, unfortunately.

BTW, you do know they had to pay them for the land, right? It wasn't just taken without compensation.

So it wasn't a violation of the constitution, IIRC.

 

[manifold]

Now, they say they gave me compensation...
That's not what I'm chasing. I was a rich man before yesterday.
Now all I have left is a broken-down pickup truck.
Looks like my farm is a freeway.

 

[manifold]

If they can take my body against my will, they can take your body, too.

Which is more important to you--land or your self?

Strawman alert!

 

[Ravi]

Strawman alert!

How so?

 

[manifold]

How so?

Ravi pulling a Ravi alert!

 

[jillian]

So it wasn't a violation of the constitution, IIRC.

Nope.

 

[Paulie]

BTW, you do know they had to pay them for the land, right? It wasn't just taken without compensation.

Yes, for "fair market value".

Not only is the government's version of "fair market value" relative, the mere fact that they TAKE your land in the first place is morally and constitutionally wrong.

 

[Ravi]

Ravi pulling a Ravi alert!

sigh

You asked why it was important. I gave my opinion. If land is more important to you than your own body, I kind of feel sorry for you.

 

[Ravi]

Nope.

That's what I thought. I remembered at the time some libertarian on a message board convinced me it was constitutional. One of those times my mind got changed.

 

[manifold]

sigh

You asked why it was important. I gave my opinion. If land is more important to you than your own body, I kind of feel sorry for you.

I understand why it's an issue that matters. I don't understand why it seems to be the ONLY issue that matters.

 

[Alison 451]

Does it bother anyone else that abortion rights has become the litmus test for acceptable Supreme Court justices? I'm very much pro-choice, but it bugs the ever-lovin crap out of me that this is the only issue that seems to matter when it comes to SCOTUS appointee approvals. And thanks to this reality, we end up with a court that hands down an unprecedented miscarriage of justice like the Kelo vs. New London decision. Now go ahead and call me selfish and sexist, but when it comes to priorities, I'd rather allow states to outlaw abortion than allow them to take my land for private use against my will.

Just sayin...

I think people are concerned about both issues. But the idea of the government forcing a woman to give birth is more offensive. Maybe it's just because I am a woman? I would think any issue of government having too much power over the people is troubling.

 

[jillian]

Now, they say they gave me compensation...
That's not what I'm chasing. I was a rich man before yesterday.
Now all I have left is a broken-down pickup truck.
Looks like my farm is a freeway.

So glad I took the time to answer...

 

[Paulie]

If land is more important to you than your own body, I kind of feel sorry for you.

Heh, that's pretty much a hop, skip, and jump away from strapping on a bomb belt.

 

[Ravi]

I understand why it's an issue that matters. I don't understand why it seems to be the ONLY issue that matters.

It isn't the only one. But it is one of the fundamental questions of our time--the right to privacy, the ability to have sovereignty over your own body. Blame it on the fact that most people in this country aren't currently facing any bigger issues.

If we all start to go hungry, the importance of the issue will take a back seat.

 

[Paulie]

It isn't the only one. But it is one of the fundamental questions of our time--the right to privacy, the ability to have sovereignty over your own body. Blame it on the fact that most people in this country aren't currently facing any bigger issues.

If we all start to go hungry, the importance of the issue will take a back seat.

Oh, they're facing bigger issues, but they just don't SEE it beyond the TV set.

 

[Ravi]

Heh, that's pretty much a hop, skip, and jump away from strapping on a bomb belt.

 

[Ravi]

Oh, they're facing bigger issues, but they just don't SEE it beyond the TV set.

Bigger? I don't know. Different, yes. But you are correct about the TV set.