Why I Trust NASA on Man-made Climate Change

Dr Richard Lindzen is a climate scientist and once was on the IPCC. What turned him off most was it turned out to be political and not scientific very much. Happer is a scientist who does not accept the fake claim man has the ability to manage climate.Even when man tries to manage weather, he has bad luck. Curry is another climate scientist who goes against the politics of climate.

An easy way to understand is can you name even one time man prevented a tornado, or a hurricane, or just rain or shooed away clouds?

2005 Lindzen was "willing to take bets that global average temperatures in 20 years will in fact be lower than they are now"

In 2005, the global average temperature was 0.58°C (1.04°F) above the long-term average, making it the second warmest year on record.

In 2024, the global average surface temperature was the warmest on record, exceeding the previous record set in 2023. The global average surface temperature was approximately 1.55°C (2.79°F) above the 1850-1900 pre-industrial average.

He was wrong.
 
In 2005, the global average temperature was 0.58°C (1.04°F) above the long-term average, making it the second warmest year on record.

In 2024, the global average surface temperature was the warmest on record, exceeding the previous record set in 2023. The global average surface temperature was approximately 1.55°C (2.79°F) above the 1850-1900 pre-industrial average.
I talked to him years ago about the fiction of using averages. It ignores the hundreds of climates globally and pretends it's averate proves something. Which it has not as shown by more recent coolings in the Sierras as well as it being cooler in much of the USA.
 
Most experts say Lindzen is "feeding upon an audience that wants to hear a certain message, and wants to hear it put forth by people with enough scientific reputation that it can be sustained for a while, even if it's wrong science.

another M.I.T. scientist, "Even if there were no political implications, it just seems deeply unprofessional and irresponsible to look at this and say, 'We're sure it's not a problem.'

several other experts said Lindzen had "sacrificed his luminosity by taking a stand that most of us feel is scientifically unsound."

He added that while he regarded some of Lindzen's views as flawed, he said that, "across the board he's generally very good". John Wallace of the University of Washington agreed with Lindzen that progress in climate change science had been exaggerated, but said there are "relatively few scientists who are as skeptical of the whole thing as Dick [Lindzen] is".

The Guardian reported in June 2016 that Lindzen has been a beneficiary of Peabody Energy, a coal company that has funded multiple groups contesting the climate consensus.

The characterization of Lindzen as a contrarian has been reinforced by reports that he claims that lung cancer has only been weakly linked to smoking.
We are discussing only global climate and the fact that the cult of alarmists wants us to be very scared because they told us so.
Lindzen is a breath of fresh air as is the many other scientists who agree with him. And they are a powerful force.

Lindzen gave the IPCC a fair chance to produce science and was upset it was pure politics. As it still is.
 
We are discussing only global climate and the fact that the cult of alarmists wants us to be very scared because they told us so.
Lindzen is a breath of fresh air as is the many other scientists who agree with him. And they are a powerful force.

Lindzen gave the IPCC a fair chance to produce science and was upset it was pure politics. As it still is.
He's a conservative who's politics plays into his science. The other scientists are going with science. He's going with the oil companies pay this son of a bitch.

He even said he wasn't sure cigarettes are linked to cancer. You listening to a quack you doofis.
 
He's going with the oil companies pay this son of a bitch.
I heard of that rumor in the 1990s and when we talked, I confronted him over that issue. He told me he consulted with a major group and only got pennies on the dollar for his work. He said that is pure tormented fakery by Democrats.

This is the same old trick daily used by Democrats. Do not discuss facts but leap forward into making attacks.
 
Most experts say Lindzen is "feeding upon an audience that wants to hear a certain message, and wants to hear it put forth by people with enough scientific reputation that it can be sustained for a while, even if it's wrong science.

another M.I.T. scientist, "Even if there were no political implications, it just seems deeply unprofessional and irresponsible to look at this and say, 'We're sure it's not a problem.'

several other experts said Lindzen had "sacrificed his luminosity by taking a stand that most of us feel is scientifically unsound."

He added that while he regarded some of Lindzen's views as flawed, he said that, "across the board he's generally very good". John Wallace of the University of Washington agreed with Lindzen that progress in climate change science had been exaggerated, but said there are "relatively few scientists who are as skeptical of the whole thing as Dick [Lindzen] is".

The Guardian reported in June 2016 that Lindzen has been a beneficiary of Peabody Energy, a coal company that has funded multiple groups contesting the climate consensus.

The characterization of Lindzen as a contrarian has been reinforced by reports that he claims that lung cancer has only been weakly linked to smoking.
What's hilarious is not one of your experts can provide empirical data to support their claims.

Nope. It's all computer magic.
 
You can't provide empirical data to support your claims.

Or, the empirical data you provide proves nothing.
Of course I can. My position is it is natural. History proves me correct.
 
Of course I can. My position is it is natural. History proves me correct.
No it doesn't. But I'm not going to get into it. Bottom line is if history proved you right then the entire world (besides Republicans who are owned by the global polluters) wouldn't be trying to combat it.

Even China and Elon Musk aren't stupid enough to deny man made climate change. Let me guess, you're a Republican. You probably don't believe in evolution either right? You think god POOFED adult humans on earth to get humanity started, right? We aren't related to all the other animals?

There seems to be a connection between idiots who deny evolution and man made climate change.
 
He's a conservative who's politics plays into his science. The other scientists are going with science. He's going with the oil companies pay this son of a bitch.

He even said he wasn't sure cigarettes are linked to cancer. You listening to a quack you doofis.
History tells us that the rulers take resources from the peons. They initiate wars and push their agendas. And we do not even know where trillions of dollars total has gone over a few decades.
 
You can't provide empirical data to support your claims.

Or, the empirical data you provide proves nothing.
Let's examine you. You tell us you are no scientist. Chances are you do not understand science at all. My claims are not based on me being a scientist, I post material from genuine top rated experts who are scientists. You don't ever do that.

Name a scientist who promotes the idea man has the skills, the knowledge, the talent to control global climate? Can't do that can you?
 
No it doesn't. But I'm not going to get into it. Bottom line is if history proved you right then the entire world (besides Republicans who are owned by the global polluters) wouldn't be trying to combat it.

Even China and Elon Musk aren't stupid enough to deny man made climate change. Let me guess, you're a Republican. You probably don't believe in evolution either right? You think god POOFED adult humans on earth to get humanity started, right? We aren't related to all the other animals?

There seems to be a connection between idiots who deny evolution and man made climate change.
Yes, it actually does.
 
That's a great question. I'll find the answer then you'll ask another question. I'm not a scientist. They say you are wrong. Or has Trump appointed a evolution and climate change denier to head NASA?

Hell even Elon believes in Man made climate change. The rest of the world believes it's fact. Only global polluters and their brainwashed followers (REpublicans voters) don't know it.
But you made the statement, dummy.
 
History tells us that the rulers take resources from the peons. They initiate wars and push their agendas. And we do not even know where trillions of dollars total has gone over a few decades.
Absolutely. I’ve actually given up caring more than coming here to argue and complain. But I’ll be okay. If poor people don’t like trump they outnumber the rich they can show up and vote. Till then, I go with Elon and trump. They are my boys.
 
Absolutely. I’ve actually given up caring more than coming here to argue and complain. But I’ll be okay. If poor people don’t like trump they outnumber the rich they can show up and vote. Till then, I go with Elon and trump. They are my boys.
Take solace in the fact that you will be dead soon. Then you won't have to care so much anymore.
 

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