Why I Could Never Be GOP or Libertarian

[sealybobo]

This tread is 4 1/2 years old which in thread years is almost 100.

Yea but 4.5 years later Republicans are trying to say socialism/liberalism is why the gap between the rich and poor is getting bigger.

Just one look at Wells Fargo's $100 million golden parachute payout and you see that's bullshit. And this is happening at every corporations.

Republicans cry class warfare meanwhile they're winning the war

 

[sealybobo]

I really wish we could implement a 2 state solution here. In your state you can have CEO's making $100 million and you make dick, just the way things work in Red states.

Left wing leeches apparently hate those who pay the taxes they leech off...

And more and more we are learning how the rich and corporations aren't actually paying their fair share.

Oh you think it's a fair share but really it's not. That's why we are in debt. One reason

The "Fair share"concept is socialistic/fascistic.

The ONLY taxes Americans lawfully owe are those imposed by the Constitution.


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Bullshit. In a perfect world sure but bullshit

 

[sealybobo]

I really wish we could implement a 2 state solution here. In your state you can have CEO's making $100 million and you make dick, just the way things work in Red states.

Left wing leeches apparently hate those who pay the taxes they leech off...

And more and more we are learning how the rich and corporations aren't actually paying their fair share.

Oh you think it's a fair share but really it's not. That's why we are in debt. One reason

Pitchforks Against Both the Kochs and the Kennedys

Another reason is wasting $20 trillion on the preppies' pet misfits. It's as if some principal hated athletes (analogous here to Whites not born rich) and told the coach to spend all their time trying to improve the athletic skills of those they had to cut in tryouts.

Ahhh, an every man for himself person who has no concept of community, we the people or how we are all in this together.

 

[sealybobo]

Yea

Right to work is great for companies but not so good for workers

... until the jobs move overseas because moron left wing Democrats DO NOT UNDERSTAND BASIC ECONOMICS....

, you'd rather hire slave labor than pay an American living wage. I get it.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Listening to everything the GOP and Libertarians have to say, I have to say I viamently disagree with the direction they want to take America. They are a very selfish group.

Paul Ryan, the father of a Republican budget initiative that seeks to destroy Medicare and Social Security has continually invoked the name of Ayn Rand as his philosophical mentor and guide. Many other Republicans have do so too. They are embracing a philosophy which, according to Ayn Rand herself, is one of selfishness and is against all forms of Spirituality. The question any thoughtful Americans must ask themselves is: “Is this the America we want?”

And how do they get evangelicals to go along with them is beyond me.

Its a very selfish every man for himself mentality.

And Libertarians don't believe in the Commons. What are the Commons?

The Commons are resources that are owned by all of us. That includes the Grand Canyon, oil rights, power companies, roads, public airwaves, schools, etc.

Here is how they think. Libertarians think if we all own the land on which our sheep graze, we will each add one too many sheep until we destroy the land for future generations. That We the People can't manage the commons.

Libertarians think that if one person owns the land and charged everyone else grazing fees, he would be more committed to preserving it for the future than a village of farmers.

I disagree.

Why we don't give a shit................................................................................................................................................ See how that works?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Right to work is great for companies but not so good for workers

... until the jobs move overseas because moron left wing Democrats DO NOT UNDERSTAND BASIC ECONOMICS....

Low-IQ Businessmen Can't Make a Profit Any Other Way

If you're boogyman Democrats weren't fraternity brothers with the GOPers, they would have outlawed outsourcing.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

This tread is 4 1/2 years old which in thread years is almost 100.

Yea but 4.5 years later Republicans are trying to say socialism/liberalism is why the gap between the rich and poor is getting bigger.

Just one look at Wells Fargo's $100 million golden parachute payout and you see that's bullshit. And this is happening at every corporations.

Republicans cry class warfare meanwhile they're winning the war

No one has a right to a dime from his Daddy; that's for children. Outlaw the preppies' privileges.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yea but 4.5 years later Republicans are trying to say socialism/liberalism is why the gap between the rich and poor is getting bigger.

Just one look at Wells Fargo's $100 million golden parachute payout and you see that's bullshit. And this is happening at every corporations.

Republicans cry class warfare meanwhile they're winning the war

Monkey boi, can a corporation exist without the specific permission and protection of the government? IF a corporation exists at the behest of the state, is it a free market mechanism?

 

[Tom Horn]

This tread is 4 1/2 years old which in thread years is almost 100.

Yea but 4.5 years later Republicans are trying to say socialism/liberalism is why the gap between the rich and poor is getting bigger.

Just one look at Wells Fargo's $100 million golden parachute payout and you see that's bullshit. And this is happening at every corporations.

Republicans cry class warfare meanwhile they're winning the war

I agree and see no reason why corporate officers should be paid millions of dollars a year while off-shoring our jobs. I'm a Wells Fargo customer and just got an apology letter from the CEO about some shenanigans in his company. I didn't get a check but I did get an apology. Chase on the other hand, stole $5,5000 from a checking account of mine shortly after I joined a class-action suit about what they paid for Bear Stearn's assets. Bear Stearn's collapse had already cost me $120,000 along with the $45,000 I lost with Lehman Bros. My broker disappeared while I was on my way to his office with a Louisville Slugger and hasn't been seen since.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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If you're boogyman Democrats weren't fraternity brothers with the GOPers, they would have outlawed outsourcing.

Outlawed outsourcing?

So, if I built skateboards, it would be illegal for me to buy the wheel assembly from another company?

Yep, you're a leftist....

 

[sealybobo]

Right to work is great for companies but not so good for workers

... until the jobs move overseas because moron left wing Democrats DO NOT UNDERSTAND BASIC ECONOMICS....

Low-IQ Businessmen Can't Make a Profit Any Other Way

If you're boogyman Democrats weren't fraternity brothers with the GOPers, they would have outlawed outsourcing.

They tried in 2009 and the Republicans obstructed until the 2010 midterms. And instead of showing up and voting out the obstructionists you stupid Americans didn't show up in 2010 and rewarded the obstructionists

 

[sealybobo]

Yea but 4.5 years later Republicans are trying to say socialism/liberalism is why the gap between the rich and poor is getting bigger.

Just one look at Wells Fargo's $100 million golden parachute payout and you see that's bullshit. And this is happening at every corporations.

Republicans cry class warfare meanwhile they're winning the war

Monkey boi, can a corporation exist without the specific permission and protection of the government? IF a corporation exists at the behest of the state, is it a free market mechanism?

That's right. No such thing as a free market. Nothing's free.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's right. No such thing as a free market. Nothing's free.

Not if you Communists have your say.

But sadly you again simply demonstrate your abject ignorance. Free markets exist in a de facto state. When a yard sale pops up, it is a free and unfettered market, ditto flea markets and swap meets. Anywhere that government is excluded from the transaction, a market will be free.

Corporations are a vital part of a thriving economy, they are needed as a mechanism to raise sufficient capital to fund most ventures. That said, corporations are PURELY a creation of the state. IF corporations are corrupt, it is due to and at the permission of the state. Goldman Sachs, one of the most corrupt organizations in human history, could not pull the shit they do without the direct collusion of Dubya, Obammy, and Deplorable Hillary (which is why they bribe them so heavily.) You seek more government (total government) control of the market - when the corruption we see is the result of government intervention.

You seek to throw gasoline on a raging fire to douse the flames.

 

[sealybobo]

That's right. No such thing as a free market. Nothing's free.

Not if you Communists have your say.

But sadly you again simply demonstrate your abject ignorance. Free markets exist in a de facto state. When a yard sale pops up, it is a free and unfettered market, ditto flea markets and swap meets. Anywhere that government is excluded from the transaction, a market will be free.

Corporations are a vital part of a thriving economy, they are needed as a mechanism to raise sufficient capital to fund most ventures. That said, corporations are PURELY a creation of the state. IF corporations are corrupt, it is due to and at the permission of the state. Goldman Sachs, one of the most corrupt organizations in human history, could not pull the shit they do without the direct collusion of Dubya, Obammy, and Deplorable Hillary (which is why they bribe them so heavily.) You seek more government (total government) control of the market - when the corruption we see is the result of government intervention.

You seek to throw gasoline on a raging fire to douse the flames.

Name one country that has ever had a free market. Ya can't. So stop the nonsense. Government is the judge/referee

 

[easyt65]

'Why I Could Never Be GOP or Libertarian'

They wouldn't have you.

 

[Dot Com]

Listening to everything the GOP and Libertarians have to say, I have to say I viamently disagree with the direction they want to take America. They are a very selfish group.

Paul Ryan, the father of a Republican budget initiative that seeks to destroy Medicare and Social Security has continually invoked the name of Ayn Rand as his philosophical mentor and guide. Many other Republicans have do so too. They are embracing a philosophy which, according to Ayn Rand herself, is one of selfishness and is against all forms of Spirituality. The question any thoughtful Americans must ask themselves is: “Is this the America we want?”

And how do they get evangelicals to go along with them is beyond me.

Its a very selfish every man for himself mentality.

And Libertarians don't believe in the Commons. What are the Commons?

The Commons are resources that are owned by all of us. That includes the Grand Canyon, oil rights, power companies, roads, public airwaves, schools, etc.

Here is how they think. Libertarians think if we all own the land on which our sheep graze, we will each add one too many sheep until we destroy the land for future generations. That We the People can't manage the commons.

Libertarians think that if one person owns the land and charged everyone else grazing fees, he would be more committed to preserving it for the future than a village of farmers.

I disagree.

you are correct. Theres a reason I refer to the as lolibertarians & don't even get me started on rw Establishment dupes

 

[Uncensored2008]

Name one country that has ever had a free market. Ya can't. So stop the nonsense. Government is the judge/referee

The United States from 1790 - 1850
The Republic of Texas - until it became a state
The Bear Republic

 

[Dot Com]

When I think of those basement- dwelling, mouth- breathers:

 

[sealybobo]

Name one country that has ever had a free market. Ya can't. So stop the nonsense. Government is the judge/referee

The United States from 1790 - 1850
The Republic of Texas - until it became a state
The Bear Republic

Nothing more recent?

Oh I wish I were in the land of cotton.

I could show you Switzerland has a good system too but Switzerland and Texas in the 1800's didn't have huge cities with so many poor. Aka ghettos. There's a job for everyone in those places.

 

[sealybobo]

Name one country that has ever had a free market. Ya can't. So stop the nonsense. Government is the judge/referee

The United States from 1790 - 1850
The Republic of Texas - until it became a state
The Bear Republic

I love it Republicans admit they want to roll the clock back 200 years