Yet you've spent this whole thread ignoring the "truth", and instead did nothing but post personal attacks and weak attempts to paint anyone who doesn't toe your line as a "racist".
So, yes. "Weak" is an appropriate term.
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Yet you've spent this whole thread ignoring the "truth", and instead did nothing but post personal attacks and weak attempts to paint anyone who doesn't toe your line as a "racist".
So, yes. "Weak" is an appropriate term.
daveman
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Ahhh, the Southern Strategy, the fable the left tells themselves so they can pretend all the racists left the Democratic Party.
Reality, however, tells a different story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html?_r=0
It’s an easy story to believe, but this year two political scientists called it into question. In their book “The End of Southern Exceptionalism,” Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin argue that the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth. In the postwar era, they note, the South transformed itself from a backward region to an engine of the national economy, giving rise to a sizable new wealthy suburban class. This class, not surprisingly, began to vote for the party that best represented its economic interests: the G.O.P. Working-class whites, however — and here’s the surprise — even those in areas with large black populations, stayed loyal to the Democrats. (This was true until the 90s, when the nation as a whole turned rightward in Congressional voting.)
The two scholars support their claim with an extensive survey of election returns and voter surveys. To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didnÂ’t.
The two scholars support their claim with an extensive survey of election returns and voter surveys. To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didnÂ’t.
Now that the record has been set straight, I fully expect you on the left to continue to bitterly cling to your revisionist history.
daveman
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Your "truth"?
Oh, you mean "opinion".
You do know the difference, don't you?
No -- doesn't look like you do.
Do you have anything of substance to post? This back and forth is getting old.
Freewill
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Should be easy for you to post how the Republican party has hurt the black man.
”These Negroes, they‘re getting pretty uppity these days and that‘s a problem for us since they‘ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we‘ve got to do something about this, we‘ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.” LBJ
“I'll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years. [Touting his underlying intentions for the "Great Society" programs, LBJ confided with two like-minded governors on Air Force One]”
Now see you have the proof of the REAL southern strategy. It is so clear that it can be denied but only by a liar that LBJ was a raving racist who only did what he did for one reason, the vote.
Nixon on the other hand did not have a stratergy that targeted a people because of race. Those who left the democrat party left so not because of support for blacks, because the Republican party has ALWAYS supported black causes they were formed for nothing less. The Dixiecrats left the DNC but they returned after the election because they had no where else to go.
The “Southern Strategy” Debunked Again
If Nixon was elected because he was a racist, and he did say some bad things about blacks, then those voting for him sure didn't get their money's worth. The good Nixon did for blacks:
•raised the civil rights enforcement budget 800 percent;
•doubled the budget for black colleges;
•appointed more blacks to federal posts and high positions than any president, including LBJ;
•adopted the Philadelphia Plan mandating quotas for blacks in unions, and for black scholars in colleges and universities;
•invented “Black Capitalism” (the Office of Minority Business Enterprise), raised U.S. purchases from black businesses from $9 million to $153 million, increased small business loans to minorities 1,000 percent, increased U.S. deposits in minority-owned banks 4,000 percent;
•raised the share of Southern schools that were desegregated from 10 percent to 70 percent. Wrote the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights in 1975, “It has only been since 1968 that substantial reduction of racial segregation has taken place in the South.”
Read more at The Neocons and Nixon?s southern strategy
Go and lie no more.
daveman
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I hate to disappoint you, but i have no dog in the Which Party is More Racist fight. I think it's an incredibly stupid topic.
Flopper
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Ever since he lent his name to a Louisiana Senate reapportionment proposal in 2010 produced by conservatives that would have turned the Senate Republican, he's been a bit of an outcast in the Democratic Party. I doubt if his switch was much of a surprise to Democrats.
daveman
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So, then, your definition of "substantive" is "anything I agree with".
I hate to disappoint you, but i have no dog in the Which Party is More Racist fight. I think it's an incredibly stupid topic.
Just as I thought.
So, then, your definition of "substantive" is "anything I agree with".Try Post #55.
But you'll hate it. Guaranteed.
I hate to disappoint you, but i have no dog in the Which Party is More Racist fight. I think it's an incredibly stupid topic.
Just as I thought.
I was speaking in reference to your posts to me.
GWV5903
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Obviously you're missing the list?
Ignorance? My 15 year old knows more on this subject than you, but she is extremely bright, obviously you're not...
Strom Thurmond, are you kidding? Byrd remained a Democrat, what's your point?
History is long and very biased when it comes to Jim Crow, it was and will always be a Democrat's creation...
Where is that list of Southern Democrats that became Republicans???
Keep it up, your day will come...
http://www.fold3.com/page/2725_jim_crow_laws/
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daveman
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You must get terribly frustrated when people don't bow to your demands.
Just like in the other thread, you responded to my post with some vague, nonsensical accusations of racism, then followed that up with pages and pages of personal attacks.
Again, that's what I mean by a lack of substance.
Again, that's what I mean by a lack of substance.
daveman
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You need to call the police and report that person holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read and respond to my posts.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I like reading your posts, and I like responding to them. It's actually kinda satisfying.
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That's actually called "the Dave"
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I love this new revisionist logic. The Southern Strategy never existed because Nixon did something for blacks. Lets recap this logic, The only way the Southern Strategy could be real is if Nixon did nothing for blacks at all.
This is how you link two pieces of info together that has nothing to do with the other.
This is how you link two pieces of info together that has nothing to do with the other.
Freewill
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Really let's recap, there was a southern strategy but it didn't involve black disenfranchisement as the left likes to lie. Much unlike LBJ's southern stratergy designed to fools and use the black vote.
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