Why has "COMPROMISE" become a dirty word to Republican Conservatives?

[Dad2three]

And YOU can't give me ONE policy CONservatives have EVER been on the correct side of US history on. Got it!

Fiscally-Conservative Policies Equal More Prosperity, According to Rich States, Poor States -

Goodie, ALEC says so *shaking head*

The states most dependent on the federal government are who you'd least expect

Red states more dependent on federal government - Business Insider

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It



Five years after passage of the Affordable Care Act, some red states are still debating, or outright refusing, free money because they just really REALLY hate President Obama:

Twenty-four states and the District of Columbia said yes to Medicaid expansion when the law went into effect. Since then, just six more have signed on. States that say yes get billions of additional federal dollars, but many Republican lawmakers are loathe to say yes to the Obama administration.

The expansion enables adults with incomes up to 138% of the poverty level to receive Medicaid. The federal government picks up the whole tab for their care through 2016, then tapers its support down to 90% of the costs.

It would be HI-larious, if the consequences weren’t so severe and even fatal, that states who’ve happily sucked off the government teat for years are all of a sudden uninterested in federal dollars for poor people to be able to go to the doctor.

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It

There NEVER was a health care crisis as there NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans just as there never were 155 million americans with Pre-existing conditions that prevented them from getting health insurance.

There IS a plan to destroy 1,400 companies that pay $100 billion a year in taxes and putting 450,000 people out of work!

This from the person that KNEW that fools like you could be easily swayed by falsehoods!
So much so Obama TOLD you he was fooling you and he even hired a guy who said people like you make up the "Stupidity of American Voter" to pass Obamacare!

NOW for the FACTS supporting these above STATEMENTS!
Obama once said:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

Even Obama admitted 10 million were illegals not eligible so he AFTER he repeated the above lie and when ACA passed HE said there were 36 million!
1) 10 million Obama counted were not Americans... not citizens per the Census:
Proof: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
2) Obama failed to get 14 million people eligible for Medicaid enrolled. That's all that is needed. That leaves 22 million.
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
3) 18 million under 34 don't NEED insurance. Can afford employers' plans as they make over $50k. That leaves 4 million.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
There have never been 46 million UNINSURED AMERICANS but less then 4 million!

Obama has said "I prefer a single payer health care system". Well logic would state "single payer" means no other PAYERS!
So what happens to the 1,400 insurance companies?

Bubba, I'm TIRED of spanking YOU and your bullshit right wing memes. Until you man up on Dubya's subprime bubble, go fuk yourself!

Frank blames the poor for housing crash
Congressman Frank makes assertions about who was responsible, but he, like all those who hold his position, have no data. He says that the banks were responsible, but cannot challenge the numbers I have outlined above. These numbers show, beyond question, that it was government housing policy that caused the financial crisis. Even he has admitted it. In an interview on Larry Kudlow's show in August 2010, he said "I hope by next year we'll have abolished Fannie and Freddie ... it was a great mistake to push lower-income people into housing they couldn't afford and couldn't really handle once they had it."
Hey, Barney Frank: The Government Did Cause the Housing Crisis

YOU WANT TO USE A LINK FROM THIS KLOWN BUBBA

"PETER WALLISON"??? The guy who was the only one of Dubya's fin crisis comm to back AEI's LONG debunked talking points? lol

Yeah he had a different opinion in 2004 Bubba


4. Conservatives sang a different tune before the crash: Conservative think tanks spent the 2000s saying the exact opposite of what they are saying now

Peter Wallison in 2004: “In recent years, study after study has shown that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are failing to do even as much as banks and S&Ls in providing financing for affordable housing, including minority and low income housing.”

LMAOROG

No, the GSEs Did Not Cause the Financial Meltdown (but thats just according to the data)

1. Private markets caused the shady mortgage boom

2. The government’s affordability mission didn’t cause the crisis

3. There is a lot of research to back this up and little against it: This is not exactly an obscure corner of the wonk world — it is one of the most studied capital markets in the world.

Hey Mayor Bloomberg! No, the GSEs Did Not Cause the Financial Meltdown (but thats just according to the data) | The Big Picture




Examining the big lie: How the facts of the economic crisis stack up


The boom and bust was global. Proponents of the Big Lie ignore the worldwide nature of the housing boom and bust.

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The housing boom and bust was global — Source: McKinsey Quarterly
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A McKinsey Global Institute report noted “from 2000 through 2007, a remarkable run-up in global home prices occurred.” It is highly unlikely that a simultaneous boom and bust everywhere else in the world was caused by one set of factors (ultra-low rates, securitized AAA-rated subprime, derivatives) but had a different set of causes in the United States. Indeed, this might be the biggest obstacle to pushing the false narrative


Nonbank mortgage underwriting exploded from 2001 to 2007, along with the private label securitization market, which eclipsed Fannie and Freddie during the boom



•Private lenders not subject to congressional regulations collapsed lending standards. Taking up that extra share were nonbanks selling mortgages elsewhere, not to the GSEs. Conforming mortgages had rules that were less profitable than the newfangled loans. Private securitizers — competitors of Fannie and Freddie — grew from 10 percent of the market in 2002 to nearly 40 percent in 2006. As a percentage of all mortgage-backed securities, private securitization grew from 23 percent in 2003 to 56 percent in 2006

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Subprime Lenders were (Primarily) Private

Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing laws overseen by either Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac or the Community Reinvestment Act — Source: McClatchy

These firms had business models that could be called “Lend-in-order-to-sell-to-Wall-Street-securitizers.” They offered all manner of nontraditional mortgages — the 2/28 adjustable rate mortgages, piggy-back loans, negative amortization loans. These defaulted in huge numbers, far more than the regulated mortgage writers did.

LOL

 

[Dad2three]

And YOU can't give me ONE policy CONservatives have EVER been on the correct side of US history on. Got it!

Fiscally-Conservative Policies Equal More Prosperity, According to Rich States, Poor States -

Goodie, ALEC says so *shaking head*

The states most dependent on the federal government are who you'd least expect

Red states more dependent on federal government - Business Insider

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It



Five years after passage of the Affordable Care Act, some red states are still debating, or outright refusing, free money because they just really REALLY hate President Obama:

Twenty-four states and the District of Columbia said yes to Medicaid expansion when the law went into effect. Since then, just six more have signed on. States that say yes get billions of additional federal dollars, but many Republican lawmakers are loathe to say yes to the Obama administration.

The expansion enables adults with incomes up to 138% of the poverty level to receive Medicaid. The federal government picks up the whole tab for their care through 2016, then tapers its support down to 90% of the costs.

It would be HI-larious, if the consequences weren’t so severe and even fatal, that states who’ve happily sucked off the government teat for years are all of a sudden uninterested in federal dollars for poor people to be able to go to the doctor.

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It

There NEVER was a health care crisis as there NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans just as there never were 155 million americans with Pre-existing conditions that prevented them from getting health insurance.

There IS a plan to destroy 1,400 companies that pay $100 billion a year in taxes and putting 450,000 people out of work!

This from the person that KNEW that fools like you could be easily swayed by falsehoods!
So much so Obama TOLD you he was fooling you and he even hired a guy who said people like you make up the "Stupidity of American Voter" to pass Obamacare!

NOW for the FACTS supporting these above STATEMENTS!
Obama once said:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

Even Obama admitted 10 million were illegals not eligible so he AFTER he repeated the above lie and when ACA passed HE said there were 36 million!
1) 10 million Obama counted were not Americans... not citizens per the Census:
Proof: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
2) Obama failed to get 14 million people eligible for Medicaid enrolled. That's all that is needed. That leaves 22 million.
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
3) 18 million under 34 don't NEED insurance. Can afford employers' plans as they make over $50k. That leaves 4 million.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
There have never been 46 million UNINSURED AMERICANS but less then 4 million!

Obama has said "I prefer a single payer health care system". Well logic would state "single payer" means no other PAYERS!
So what happens to the 1,400 insurance companies?

Bubba, I'm TIRED of spanking YOU and your bullshit right wing memes. Until you man up on Dubya's subprime bubble, go fuk yourself!

You must be yet another of Big Yank's brothers. Both of you feel the need to express yourselves with the most base of profanities. Typical Liberal no-class brute beast jargon. Pathetic.

You mean I don't play nice with lying right wing scum? True!

 

[Dad2three]

Has anyone ever heard a Democrat make such statements? Anarchy is not what the founding fathers intended. Compromise is how a democracy is able to function. Compromise is how our Constitution was written and ratified. What the far right now calls RINOs is what the Republican Party used to be. Radical extremist obstructionism is no way to govern.

Definition of COMPROMISE

a : settlement of differences by arbitration or by consent reached by mutual concessions

b : something intermediate between or blending qualities of two different things

compromise | a way of reaching agreement in which each person or group gives up something that was wanted in order to end an argument or dispute

consensus | a general agreement about something : an idea or opinion that is shared by all the people in a group

When you're dealing with a gaggle of liars and fags, there is no compromise.

Not true, Obama has CONTINUALLY reached out to you Klowns!

But you do acknowledge they are a gaggle of faggots and liars, right?

In the GOP/CONservative movement? Yep

Don't you need to run over to your local neighborhood convenience store and strong-arm the clerk and pick up a few packs of Swisher Sweets? You can post Big Yank outside with his trusty OBAMAPHONE to give you a "heads up" if a cop happens by. You'll have to put the OBAMAPHONE on auto-dial though or Big Yank will screw that up too.

You mean the Reaganphone Bubs?

 

[the_human_being]

Fiscally-Conservative Policies Equal More Prosperity, According to Rich States, Poor States -

Goodie, ALEC says so *shaking head*

The states most dependent on the federal government are who you'd least expect

Red states more dependent on federal government - Business Insider

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It



Five years after passage of the Affordable Care Act, some red states are still debating, or outright refusing, free money because they just really REALLY hate President Obama:

Twenty-four states and the District of Columbia said yes to Medicaid expansion when the law went into effect. Since then, just six more have signed on. States that say yes get billions of additional federal dollars, but many Republican lawmakers are loathe to say yes to the Obama administration.

The expansion enables adults with incomes up to 138% of the poverty level to receive Medicaid. The federal government picks up the whole tab for their care through 2016, then tapers its support down to 90% of the costs.

It would be HI-larious, if the consequences weren’t so severe and even fatal, that states who’ve happily sucked off the government teat for years are all of a sudden uninterested in federal dollars for poor people to be able to go to the doctor.

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It

There NEVER was a health care crisis as there NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans just as there never were 155 million americans with Pre-existing conditions that prevented them from getting health insurance.

There IS a plan to destroy 1,400 companies that pay $100 billion a year in taxes and putting 450,000 people out of work!

This from the person that KNEW that fools like you could be easily swayed by falsehoods!
So much so Obama TOLD you he was fooling you and he even hired a guy who said people like you make up the "Stupidity of American Voter" to pass Obamacare!

NOW for the FACTS supporting these above STATEMENTS!
Obama once said:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

Even Obama admitted 10 million were illegals not eligible so he AFTER he repeated the above lie and when ACA passed HE said there were 36 million!
1) 10 million Obama counted were not Americans... not citizens per the Census:
Proof: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
2) Obama failed to get 14 million people eligible for Medicaid enrolled. That's all that is needed. That leaves 22 million.
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
3) 18 million under 34 don't NEED insurance. Can afford employers' plans as they make over $50k. That leaves 4 million.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
There have never been 46 million UNINSURED AMERICANS but less then 4 million!

Obama has said "I prefer a single payer health care system". Well logic would state "single payer" means no other PAYERS!
So what happens to the 1,400 insurance companies?

Bubba, I'm TIRED of spanking YOU and your bullshit right wing memes. Until you man up on Dubya's subprime bubble, go fuk yourself!

You must be yet another of Big Yank's brothers. Both of you feel the need to express yourselves with the most base of profanities. Typical Liberal no-class brute beast jargon. Pathetic.

You mean I don't play nice with lying right wing scum? True!

No. I simply mean you are without any small degree of moral character. You cast a dark shadow upon your father and mother.

 

[healthmyths]

Fiscally-Conservative Policies Equal More Prosperity, According to Rich States, Poor States -

Goodie, ALEC says so *shaking head*

The states most dependent on the federal government are who you'd least expect

Red states more dependent on federal government - Business Insider

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It



Five years after passage of the Affordable Care Act, some red states are still debating, or outright refusing, free money because they just really REALLY hate President Obama:

Twenty-four states and the District of Columbia said yes to Medicaid expansion when the law went into effect. Since then, just six more have signed on. States that say yes get billions of additional federal dollars, but many Republican lawmakers are loathe to say yes to the Obama administration.

The expansion enables adults with incomes up to 138% of the poverty level to receive Medicaid. The federal government picks up the whole tab for their care through 2016, then tapers its support down to 90% of the costs.

It would be HI-larious, if the consequences weren’t so severe and even fatal, that states who’ve happily sucked off the government teat for years are all of a sudden uninterested in federal dollars for poor people to be able to go to the doctor.

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It

There NEVER was a health care crisis as there NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans just as there never were 155 million americans with Pre-existing conditions that prevented them from getting health insurance.

There IS a plan to destroy 1,400 companies that pay $100 billion a year in taxes and putting 450,000 people out of work!

This from the person that KNEW that fools like you could be easily swayed by falsehoods!
So much so Obama TOLD you he was fooling you and he even hired a guy who said people like you make up the "Stupidity of American Voter" to pass Obamacare!

NOW for the FACTS supporting these above STATEMENTS!
Obama once said:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

Even Obama admitted 10 million were illegals not eligible so he AFTER he repeated the above lie and when ACA passed HE said there were 36 million!
1) 10 million Obama counted were not Americans... not citizens per the Census:
Proof: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
2) Obama failed to get 14 million people eligible for Medicaid enrolled. That's all that is needed. That leaves 22 million.
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
3) 18 million under 34 don't NEED insurance. Can afford employers' plans as they make over $50k. That leaves 4 million.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
There have never been 46 million UNINSURED AMERICANS but less then 4 million!

Obama has said "I prefer a single payer health care system". Well logic would state "single payer" means no other PAYERS!
So what happens to the 1,400 insurance companies?

Bubba, I'm TIRED of spanking YOU and your bullshit right wing memes. Until you man up on Dubya's subprime bubble, go fuk yourself!

So your ignorant selective editing LEFT OUT these MAJOR CLINTON contributors to the housing bubble crash!

HEY did you know YOUR link HUD Scandals Shows this:

The Cisneros Years, 1993–1997
In the Clinton administration, a primary mission of HUD was to increase home ownership rates, especially among minorities and low-income families.
That mission was carried out through HUD subsidy programs and through the two government-connected mortgage finance giants, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In 1992, HUD was given regulatory authority over these government-sponsored enterprises, and it began pushing the two firms into the subprime lending business.
We now know that these political decisions on housing that were made in the 1990s helped fuel the housing bubble and subsequent crash in the early 21st century, so it is worth looking into the leadership of HUD during those years.
Henry Cisneros served as President Bill Clinton's HUD secretary from 1993 to 1997, when he resigned to deal with allegations that he lied to the FBI about payments he made to a former mistress. Cisneros plead guilty in 1999 and was fined $10,000, avoiding a possible prison sentence.
A key weapon in the Cisneros arsenal was the Clinton administration's changes to the Community Reinvestment Act. The CRA was passed in 1977 and updated in 1995 to pressure lenders into making more loans to moderate-income borrowers by allowing regulators to deny merger approvals for banks with low CRA ratings. Even complaints brought by activists, such as the leftist group ACORN, were now counted against a bank's CRA rating. The result was that banks began issuing more loans to otherwise uncreditworthy borrowers while purchasing more CRA mortgage-backed securities.28 As housing finance expert Peter Wallison noted, "The most important fact associated with the CRA is the effort to reduce underwriting standards. … Once those standards were relaxed … they spread rapidly to the prime market and to subprime markets where loans were made by lenders other than insured banks."29 -

The Cuomo Years, 1997-2001
During the Cuomo years, mortgage industry officials and housing advocates wanted Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to purchase higher volumes of riskier loans that were offered to less credit-worthy borrowers.
Cuomo's HUD continued to pressure Fannie and Freddie to increase the portion of their portfolios consisting of loans to moderate-income borrowers.
Cuomo applied pressure by having HUD publicly "investigate" whether Fannie and Freddie were sufficiently in compliance with government fair-lending standards designed to prevent discrimination.
Cuomo also supported efforts to have home sellers funnel money to nonprofit groups to help pay for buyers' down payments and closing costs. These "down payment assistance" loans ended up having default rates twice that of standard FHA-insured mortgages.51 Cuomo portrayed his efforts as helping to increase homeownership rates for minorities, but he also had an interest in not upsetting mortgage industry officials who would later help finance his gubernatorial campaign.
He also worked hard to receive support from leftist housing advocate groups, such as ACORN.

We know now that Fannie and Freddie's expansion into low-quality mortgages was a huge mistake. A decade ago, numerous financial analysts saw the problems coming, but policymakers ignored their concerns and did not change their policy course. Here is a prescient observation by a New York Times reporter in 1999:

In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980s.54

Unfortunately, the housing and financial debacles of 2008 and 2009 were far larger than the savings and loan mess. But with Cuomo, fiscally prudent policies took a backseat to his political aspirations.
See more at: HUD Scandals

It’s true that key Democrats opposed the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, which would have established a single, independent regulatory body with jurisdiction over Fannie and Freddie – a move that the Government Accountability Office had recommended in a 2004 report. Current House Banking Committee chairman Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts opposed legislation to reorganize oversight in 2000 (when Clinton was still president), 2003 and 2004, saying of the 2000 legislation that concern about Fannie and Freddie was "overblown." Just last summer, Senate Banking Committee chairman Chris Dodd called a Bush proposal for an independent agency to regulate the two entities "ill-advised."

Now here is factcheck.org on the assignment of blame INCLUDING Bush

Here’s a partial list of those alleged to be at fault:

• The Federal Reserve, which slashed interest rates after the dot-com bubble burst, making credit cheap.
• Home buyers, who took advantage of easy credit to bid up the prices of homes excessively.
• Congress, which continues to support a mortgage tax deduction that gives consumers a tax incentive to buy more expensive houses.
• Real estate agents, most of whom work for the sellers rather than the buyers and who earned higher commissions from selling more expensive homes.
• The Clinton administration, which pushed for less stringent credit and downpayment requirements for working- and middle-class families.
• Mortgage brokers, who offered less-credit-worthy home buyers subprime, adjustable rate loans with low initial payments, but exploding interest rates.
• Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, who in 2004, near the peak of the housing bubble, encouraged Americans to take out adjustable rate mortgages.
• Wall Street firms, who paid too little attention to the quality of the risky loans that they bundled into Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), and issued bonds using those securities as collateral.
• The Bush administration, which failed to provide needed government oversight of the increasingly dicey mortgage-backed securities market.
• An obscure accounting rule called mark-to-market, which can have the paradoxical result of making assets be worth less on paper than they are in reality during times of panic.
• Collective delusion, or a belief on the part of all parties that home prices would keep rising forever, no matter how high or how fast they had already gone up.

Who Caused the Economic Crisis?

NOW that I've agreed Bush as well as all the above were to blame does that meet your totally biased dishonest opinion?

MORE RIGHT WING BS. SHOCKING

Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


2004 Republican Convention:

Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
...

Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."


June 17, 2004


Builders to fight Bush's low-income plan


NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.


Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004

Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/20081203_analysis.pdf

YEAH, CLINTON:

"Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50% OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them.



Bush's documented policies and statements in timeframe leading up to the start of the Bush Mortgage Bubble include (but not limited to)

Wanting 5.5 million more minority homeowners
Tells congress there is nothing wrong with GSEs
Pledging to use federal policy to increase home ownership
Routinely taking credit for the housing market
Forcing GSEs to buy more low income home loans by raising their Housing Goals
Lowering Investment banks capital requirements, Net Capital rule
Reversing the Clinton rule that restricted GSEs purchases of subprime loans
Lowering down payment requirements to 0%
Forcing GSEs to spend an additional $440 billion in the secondary markets
Giving away 40,000 free down payments
PREEMPTING ALL STATE LAWS AGAINST PREDATORY LENDING


But the biggest policy was regulators not enforcing lending standards.


FACTS on Dubya's great recession | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Well from ALL your documentation Bush was the greatest liberal president who's sole desire was to get poor unqualified people into homes.
Wow. You certainly have made the case that all the bad mouthing about Bush being such an advocate for the rich and hating the poor seems 100% wrong!
I mean seriously you've got me wondering why Bush was a Republican!
Seems like EVERYTHING he did during his 8 years was to help poor people get homes. And you make that sound like something Obama was against as well as
all the democrats !
Wow. That's all I can say.
Bush was really a secret liberal democrat of the most compassionate mode!
Well thanks. I now have my eyes opened and am totally convinced Bush was again the greatest president for wanting to help the most people get homes!
You did a good job in pointing out how much those nasty Democrats fought good George Bush's efforts to help the poor!

 

[paulitician]

Who needs compromise when you have a pen? The Republic is dying. That's the reality.

 

[the_human_being]

When you're dealing with a gaggle of liars and fags, there is no compromise.

Not true, Obama has CONTINUALLY reached out to you Klowns!

But you do acknowledge they are a gaggle of faggots and liars, right?

In the GOP/CONservative movement? Yep

Don't you need to run over to your local neighborhood convenience store and strong-arm the clerk and pick up a few packs of Swisher Sweets? You can post Big Yank outside with his trusty OBAMAPHONE to give you a "heads up" if a cop happens by. You'll have to put the OBAMAPHONE on auto-dial though or Big Yank will screw that up too.

You mean the Reaganphone Bubs?

Well, one of your Liberal poster women from Cleveland was on national television urging all her Black thug cronies to go get a free OBAMAPHONE.

 

[Dad2three]

Goodie, ALEC says so *shaking head*

The states most dependent on the federal government are who you'd least expect

Red states more dependent on federal government - Business Insider

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It



Five years after passage of the Affordable Care Act, some red states are still debating, or outright refusing, free money because they just really REALLY hate President Obama:

Twenty-four states and the District of Columbia said yes to Medicaid expansion when the law went into effect. Since then, just six more have signed on. States that say yes get billions of additional federal dollars, but many Republican lawmakers are loathe to say yes to the Obama administration.

The expansion enables adults with incomes up to 138% of the poverty level to receive Medicaid. The federal government picks up the whole tab for their care through 2016, then tapers its support down to 90% of the costs.

It would be HI-larious, if the consequences weren’t so severe and even fatal, that states who’ve happily sucked off the government teat for years are all of a sudden uninterested in federal dollars for poor people to be able to go to the doctor.

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It

There NEVER was a health care crisis as there NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans just as there never were 155 million americans with Pre-existing conditions that prevented them from getting health insurance.

There IS a plan to destroy 1,400 companies that pay $100 billion a year in taxes and putting 450,000 people out of work!

This from the person that KNEW that fools like you could be easily swayed by falsehoods!
So much so Obama TOLD you he was fooling you and he even hired a guy who said people like you make up the "Stupidity of American Voter" to pass Obamacare!

NOW for the FACTS supporting these above STATEMENTS!
Obama once said:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

Even Obama admitted 10 million were illegals not eligible so he AFTER he repeated the above lie and when ACA passed HE said there were 36 million!
1) 10 million Obama counted were not Americans... not citizens per the Census:
Proof: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
2) Obama failed to get 14 million people eligible for Medicaid enrolled. That's all that is needed. That leaves 22 million.
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
3) 18 million under 34 don't NEED insurance. Can afford employers' plans as they make over $50k. That leaves 4 million.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
There have never been 46 million UNINSURED AMERICANS but less then 4 million!

Obama has said "I prefer a single payer health care system". Well logic would state "single payer" means no other PAYERS!
So what happens to the 1,400 insurance companies?

Bubba, I'm TIRED of spanking YOU and your bullshit right wing memes. Until you man up on Dubya's subprime bubble, go fuk yourself!

You must be yet another of Big Yank's brothers. Both of you feel the need to express yourselves with the most base of profanities. Typical Liberal no-class brute beast jargon. Pathetic.

You mean I don't play nice with lying right wing scum? True!

No. I simply mean you are without any small degree of moral character. You cast a dark shadow upon your father and mother.

Don't get upset Bubba, I make all my CONservative bitches swallow after they blow me!

 

[Dad2three]

Goodie, ALEC says so *shaking head*

The states most dependent on the federal government are who you'd least expect

Red states more dependent on federal government - Business Insider

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It



Five years after passage of the Affordable Care Act, some red states are still debating, or outright refusing, free money because they just really REALLY hate President Obama:

Twenty-four states and the District of Columbia said yes to Medicaid expansion when the law went into effect. Since then, just six more have signed on. States that say yes get billions of additional federal dollars, but many Republican lawmakers are loathe to say yes to the Obama administration.

The expansion enables adults with incomes up to 138% of the poverty level to receive Medicaid. The federal government picks up the whole tab for their care through 2016, then tapers its support down to 90% of the costs.

It would be HI-larious, if the consequences weren’t so severe and even fatal, that states who’ve happily sucked off the government teat for years are all of a sudden uninterested in federal dollars for poor people to be able to go to the doctor.

Moocher Red States Still Don’t Want Free Healthcare Money With Obama’s Name On It

There NEVER was a health care crisis as there NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans just as there never were 155 million americans with Pre-existing conditions that prevented them from getting health insurance.

There IS a plan to destroy 1,400 companies that pay $100 billion a year in taxes and putting 450,000 people out of work!

This from the person that KNEW that fools like you could be easily swayed by falsehoods!
So much so Obama TOLD you he was fooling you and he even hired a guy who said people like you make up the "Stupidity of American Voter" to pass Obamacare!

NOW for the FACTS supporting these above STATEMENTS!
Obama once said:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

Even Obama admitted 10 million were illegals not eligible so he AFTER he repeated the above lie and when ACA passed HE said there were 36 million!
1) 10 million Obama counted were not Americans... not citizens per the Census:
Proof: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
2) Obama failed to get 14 million people eligible for Medicaid enrolled. That's all that is needed. That leaves 22 million.
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
3) 18 million under 34 don't NEED insurance. Can afford employers' plans as they make over $50k. That leaves 4 million.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
There have never been 46 million UNINSURED AMERICANS but less then 4 million!

Obama has said "I prefer a single payer health care system". Well logic would state "single payer" means no other PAYERS!
So what happens to the 1,400 insurance companies?

Bubba, I'm TIRED of spanking YOU and your bullshit right wing memes. Until you man up on Dubya's subprime bubble, go fuk yourself!

So your ignorant selective editing LEFT OUT these MAJOR CLINTON contributors to the housing bubble crash!

HEY did you know YOUR link HUD Scandals Shows this:

The Cisneros Years, 1993–1997
In the Clinton administration, a primary mission of HUD was to increase home ownership rates, especially among minorities and low-income families.
That mission was carried out through HUD subsidy programs and through the two government-connected mortgage finance giants, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In 1992, HUD was given regulatory authority over these government-sponsored enterprises, and it began pushing the two firms into the subprime lending business.
We now know that these political decisions on housing that were made in the 1990s helped fuel the housing bubble and subsequent crash in the early 21st century, so it is worth looking into the leadership of HUD during those years.
Henry Cisneros served as President Bill Clinton's HUD secretary from 1993 to 1997, when he resigned to deal with allegations that he lied to the FBI about payments he made to a former mistress. Cisneros plead guilty in 1999 and was fined $10,000, avoiding a possible prison sentence.
A key weapon in the Cisneros arsenal was the Clinton administration's changes to the Community Reinvestment Act. The CRA was passed in 1977 and updated in 1995 to pressure lenders into making more loans to moderate-income borrowers by allowing regulators to deny merger approvals for banks with low CRA ratings. Even complaints brought by activists, such as the leftist group ACORN, were now counted against a bank's CRA rating. The result was that banks began issuing more loans to otherwise uncreditworthy borrowers while purchasing more CRA mortgage-backed securities.28 As housing finance expert Peter Wallison noted, "The most important fact associated with the CRA is the effort to reduce underwriting standards. … Once those standards were relaxed … they spread rapidly to the prime market and to subprime markets where loans were made by lenders other than insured banks."29 -

The Cuomo Years, 1997-2001
During the Cuomo years, mortgage industry officials and housing advocates wanted Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to purchase higher volumes of riskier loans that were offered to less credit-worthy borrowers.
Cuomo's HUD continued to pressure Fannie and Freddie to increase the portion of their portfolios consisting of loans to moderate-income borrowers.
Cuomo applied pressure by having HUD publicly "investigate" whether Fannie and Freddie were sufficiently in compliance with government fair-lending standards designed to prevent discrimination.
Cuomo also supported efforts to have home sellers funnel money to nonprofit groups to help pay for buyers' down payments and closing costs. These "down payment assistance" loans ended up having default rates twice that of standard FHA-insured mortgages.51 Cuomo portrayed his efforts as helping to increase homeownership rates for minorities, but he also had an interest in not upsetting mortgage industry officials who would later help finance his gubernatorial campaign.
He also worked hard to receive support from leftist housing advocate groups, such as ACORN.

We know now that Fannie and Freddie's expansion into low-quality mortgages was a huge mistake. A decade ago, numerous financial analysts saw the problems coming, but policymakers ignored their concerns and did not change their policy course. Here is a prescient observation by a New York Times reporter in 1999:

In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980s.54

Unfortunately, the housing and financial debacles of 2008 and 2009 were far larger than the savings and loan mess. But with Cuomo, fiscally prudent policies took a backseat to his political aspirations.
See more at: HUD Scandals

It’s true that key Democrats opposed the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, which would have established a single, independent regulatory body with jurisdiction over Fannie and Freddie – a move that the Government Accountability Office had recommended in a 2004 report. Current House Banking Committee chairman Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts opposed legislation to reorganize oversight in 2000 (when Clinton was still president), 2003 and 2004, saying of the 2000 legislation that concern about Fannie and Freddie was "overblown." Just last summer, Senate Banking Committee chairman Chris Dodd called a Bush proposal for an independent agency to regulate the two entities "ill-advised."

Now here is factcheck.org on the assignment of blame INCLUDING Bush

Here’s a partial list of those alleged to be at fault:

• The Federal Reserve, which slashed interest rates after the dot-com bubble burst, making credit cheap.
• Home buyers, who took advantage of easy credit to bid up the prices of homes excessively.
• Congress, which continues to support a mortgage tax deduction that gives consumers a tax incentive to buy more expensive houses.
• Real estate agents, most of whom work for the sellers rather than the buyers and who earned higher commissions from selling more expensive homes.
• The Clinton administration, which pushed for less stringent credit and downpayment requirements for working- and middle-class families.
• Mortgage brokers, who offered less-credit-worthy home buyers subprime, adjustable rate loans with low initial payments, but exploding interest rates.
• Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, who in 2004, near the peak of the housing bubble, encouraged Americans to take out adjustable rate mortgages.
• Wall Street firms, who paid too little attention to the quality of the risky loans that they bundled into Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), and issued bonds using those securities as collateral.
• The Bush administration, which failed to provide needed government oversight of the increasingly dicey mortgage-backed securities market.
• An obscure accounting rule called mark-to-market, which can have the paradoxical result of making assets be worth less on paper than they are in reality during times of panic.
• Collective delusion, or a belief on the part of all parties that home prices would keep rising forever, no matter how high or how fast they had already gone up.

Who Caused the Economic Crisis?

NOW that I've agreed Bush as well as all the above were to blame does that meet your totally biased dishonest opinion?

MORE RIGHT WING BS. SHOCKING

Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


2004 Republican Convention:

Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
...

Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."


June 17, 2004


Builders to fight Bush's low-income plan


NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.


Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004

Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”



Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/20081203_analysis.pdf

YEAH, CLINTON:

"Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50% OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them.



Bush's documented policies and statements in timeframe leading up to the start of the Bush Mortgage Bubble include (but not limited to)

Wanting 5.5 million more minority homeowners
Tells congress there is nothing wrong with GSEs
Pledging to use federal policy to increase home ownership
Routinely taking credit for the housing market
Forcing GSEs to buy more low income home loans by raising their Housing Goals
Lowering Investment banks capital requirements, Net Capital rule
Reversing the Clinton rule that restricted GSEs purchases of subprime loans
Lowering down payment requirements to 0%
Forcing GSEs to spend an additional $440 billion in the secondary markets
Giving away 40,000 free down payments
PREEMPTING ALL STATE LAWS AGAINST PREDATORY LENDING


But the biggest policy was regulators not enforcing lending standards.


FACTS on Dubya's great recession | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Well from ALL your documentation Bush was the greatest liberal president who's sole desire was to get poor unqualified people into homes.
Wow. You certainly have made the case that all the bad mouthing about Bush being such an advocate for the rich and hating the poor seems 100% wrong!
I mean seriously you've got me wondering why Bush was a Republican!
Seems like EVERYTHING he did during his 8 years was to help poor people get homes. And you make that sound like something Obama was against as well as
all the democrats !
Wow. That's all I can say.
Bush was really a secret liberal democrat of the most compassionate mode!
Well thanks. I now have my eyes opened and am totally convinced Bush was again the greatest president for wanting to help the most people get homes!
You did a good job in pointing out how much those nasty Democrats fought good George Bush's efforts to help the poor!

Yeah, Dubya was doing it for the "poor" lol

NOT the Banksters to run their ponzi scheme AND allowing US to use our homes as ATM's which was the ONLY thing Dubya had for his first 7 years, without HOME EQUITY WITHDRAWALS DUBYA'S GROWTH WAS 1% A YEAR. lol




HINT, MOST OF WHAT DUBYA DID, HE DID AS EXECUTIVE BRANCH. You know as REGULATOR of Fannie/Freddie, SEC, FBI, HUD, etc... You crazy fukk

 

[Dad2three]

Not true, Obama has CONTINUALLY reached out to you Klowns!

But you do acknowledge they are a gaggle of faggots and liars, right?

In the GOP/CONservative movement? Yep

Don't you need to run over to your local neighborhood convenience store and strong-arm the clerk and pick up a few packs of Swisher Sweets? You can post Big Yank outside with his trusty OBAMAPHONE to give you a "heads up" if a cop happens by. You'll have to put the OBAMAPHONE on auto-dial though or Big Yank will screw that up too.

You mean the Reaganphone Bubs?

Well, one of your Liberal poster women from Cleveland was on national television urging all her Black thug cronies to go get a free OBAMAPHONE.

Like you, she was wrong Bubb

Ring Wing Goes Crazy Over 'Obama Phones' Which Are Actually 'Reagan Phones'
Little did they know that the joke was on them.

Ring Wing Goes Crazy Over 'Obama Phones' Which Are Actually 'Reagan Phones'

 

[the_human_being]

There NEVER was a health care crisis as there NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans just as there never were 155 million americans with Pre-existing conditions that prevented them from getting health insurance.

There IS a plan to destroy 1,400 companies that pay $100 billion a year in taxes and putting 450,000 people out of work!

This from the person that KNEW that fools like you could be easily swayed by falsehoods!
So much so Obama TOLD you he was fooling you and he even hired a guy who said people like you make up the "Stupidity of American Voter" to pass Obamacare!

NOW for the FACTS supporting these above STATEMENTS!
Obama once said:
“I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

Even Obama admitted 10 million were illegals not eligible so he AFTER he repeated the above lie and when ACA passed HE said there were 36 million!
1) 10 million Obama counted were not Americans... not citizens per the Census:
Proof: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
2) Obama failed to get 14 million people eligible for Medicaid enrolled. That's all that is needed. That leaves 22 million.
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
3) 18 million under 34 don't NEED insurance. Can afford employers' plans as they make over $50k. That leaves 4 million.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009
There have never been 46 million UNINSURED AMERICANS but less then 4 million!

Obama has said "I prefer a single payer health care system". Well logic would state "single payer" means no other PAYERS!
So what happens to the 1,400 insurance companies?

Bubba, I'm TIRED of spanking YOU and your bullshit right wing memes. Until you man up on Dubya's subprime bubble, go fuk yourself!

You must be yet another of Big Yank's brothers. Both of you feel the need to express yourselves with the most base of profanities. Typical Liberal no-class brute beast jargon. Pathetic.

You mean I don't play nice with lying right wing scum? True!

No. I simply mean you are without any small degree of moral character. You cast a dark shadow upon your father and mother.

Don't get upset Bubba, I make all my CONservative bitches swallow after they blow me!

Yes, I do understand that your Black women refuse to marry you even after you impregnate them. They don't want to support your lazy butts either.

 

[paulitician]

Executive Orders are making compromise a useless unnecessary endeavor. This current President has expressed that often. It's all about the pen now.

 

[the_human_being]

I do hope the Obamas don't trash the White House before they leave. We all know how Blacks destroy homes by breaking all the windows, knocking holes in the sheetrock, etc. The Clintons were the first Black family to occupy the White House. They stole even the silverware.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

When the libs distort the meaning of the word "compromise" itself, of course the word "compromise" takes on a dirty hue.

The true meaning of "compromise" is all well and good and not the subject of any complaint.

But negotiating with liberal socialist Democrat Parody political hacks in Congress and the White House often involves "compromise" which is NOT true compromise. It is merely a slow-cook version of capitulation. Boehner was very good at 'comrpomising' with the likes of Obumbler and Senate Democrap leadershit.

 

[Dad2three]

Bubba, I'm TIRED of spanking YOU and your bullshit right wing memes. Until you man up on Dubya's subprime bubble, go fuk yourself!

You must be yet another of Big Yank's brothers. Both of you feel the need to express yourselves with the most base of profanities. Typical Liberal no-class brute beast jargon. Pathetic.

You mean I don't play nice with lying right wing scum? True!

No. I simply mean you are without any small degree of moral character. You cast a dark shadow upon your father and mother.

Don't get upset Bubba, I make all my CONservative bitches swallow after they blow me!

Yes, I do understand that your Black women refuse to marry you even after you impregnate them. They don't want to support your lazy butts either.

PLEASE keep it up Bubba, I LOVE the GOP's outreach. Can you throw in some Hispanic and Asian crap too PLEASE?

Hint I'm not only white (German ancestry) but the ONLY one in this conversation who has a brain and uses reason and logic Bubba!

 

[IlarMeilyr]

A proper give and take, some quid pro quo, to achieve a mutually desired objective via competing methods is all well and good. But it is one thing to compromise on the short term methods of achieving a desired goal. It is another thing entirely to compromise on ones very principles.

 

[healthmyths]

So DAD2Three...

Let me understand then when Barney Frank and Dodd said the following:
Many prominent Democrats,including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash,
"Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)

it really confuses me.

I mean based on ALL your refutation of my firm beliefs about Bush you said he was a hero to the poor, the lower income. So why would Frank,Dodd, et.al. bash Bush?
What was the purpose of their statements? Were the just grossly uninformed about Bush's concerns for the poor? What was their reason for defending the GSEs if
Bush also was doing everything possible to help the poor subprime people buy homes?

 

[Dad2three]

Executive Orders are making compromise a useless unnecessary endeavor. This current President has expressed that often. It's all about the pen now.

Perhaps the GOP should try to GOVERN instead of blowing up Gov't like the TeaTards want?

 

[the_human_being]

You must be yet another of Big Yank's brothers. Both of you feel the need to express yourselves with the most base of profanities. Typical Liberal no-class brute beast jargon. Pathetic.

You mean I don't play nice with lying right wing scum? True!

No. I simply mean you are without any small degree of moral character. You cast a dark shadow upon your father and mother.

Don't get upset Bubba, I make all my CONservative bitches swallow after they blow me!

Yes, I do understand that your Black women refuse to marry you even after you impregnate them. They don't want to support your lazy butts either.

PLEASE keep it up Bubba, I LOVE the GOP's outreach. Can you throw in some Hispanic and Asian crap too PLEASE?

Hint I'm not only white (German ancestry) but the ONLY one in this conversation who has a brain and uses reason and logic Bubba!

Nah. You like Bill Clinton. Black to the bone.

 

[Dad2three]

I do hope the Obamas don't trash the White House before they leave. We all know how Blacks destroy homes by breaking all the windows, knocking holes in the sheetrock, etc. The Clintons were the first Black family to occupy the White House. They stole even the silverware.

Good for you Bubba, get that Southern CONservative CONfederate States of AmeriKKKa support for the GOP, why worry about pretending you aren't anything but a KKK loving right wing moron!