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When I first became aware of "presidents" was Eisenhower.
With the Presidents that followed only two will be to me the "greatest" Presidents.
NOW dealing strictly WITH HISTORICAL FACTS!!!
Faced with:
The misery index was initiated by economist Arthur Okun, an adviser to President Lyndon Johnson in the 1960's.
It is simply the unemployment rate added to the inflation rate.
The misery index under President Jimmy Carter averaged 16.26, with a high of 20.76 in 1980.
At one time under Carter,
Then President Ronald Reagan took over the index was 17.97, his highest.
If any president had an excuse to blame the previous administration, Reagan did.
Instead the misery index declined to 9.57 at the end of 1988.... a 9.61 points reduction or 53% reduction!!!
So looking at the inflation rate for the highest in history:
1980 annual inflation rate was 13.58% with March 1980 it reach 14.76% .
So the unemployment rate was in 1982 9.71% BUT using the Obama standard blame the previous President Carter...
From the highest it declined under Reagan to in 1988 5.49% again a nearly 43% drop in unemployment.
So At this point The greatest President was Reagan! Dropped inflation by 50% and unemployment dropped by 40%!
Two simplest measures of "greatness" in the Presidents in my life time.
BUT in my lifetime NO president had these 4 monumental cataclysmic events and historians will verify these FACTS as idiots seem to forget
what happened from 2001 to 2008!
Then we have G.W.Bush..
His unemployment rates:
2001 4.74
2002 5.78
2003 5.99
2004 5.54
2005 5.08
2006 4.61
2007 4.62
2008 5.80
Did ANY EXECUTIVE ACTIONS on the Part of GWB CAUSE THESE EVENTS to happen???
1) Recession that started under Clinton ended 11/01.
Specifically, 50.8 million jobs were lost through the first six quarters of the 01 recession .
Heritage Employment Report: February Continues Winter Blues
The 2001 recession officially started 03/2001... BUT the steps leading up to it started under Clinton!
DID THIS HAPPEN??
1) Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in lost market value..
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies.
More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion ? Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs
DID THIS HAPPEN??
2) Hard to believe but people forget that 9/11 occurred!
It cost $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York!!
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone.
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
3) $1 trillion in written off losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history!
The worst Katrina,made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages.
Hurricane Katrina ALONE! Year 2005: Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
On August 25, 2005, Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast of the U.S. as a strong Category 3 or low Category 4 storm. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.
Hurricane Rita quickly followed Katrina only to make matters worse. Between the two, more than $200 billion in damage was done. 400,000 jobs were lost and 275,000 homes were destroyed. Many of the jobs and homes were never to be recovered. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced and over 1,000 were killed and more are missing. The effect on oil and gasoline prices was long-lasting.
400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.
Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.
Bush growth of the GDP was greater then Clinton in 2005 GDP grew at 6.5% Clinton's best:6.4%
Measuring Worth - GDP result.
When Bush started 131,785,000 people employed.
At the end of 2008 136,790,000 people employed or
5,000,000 more employed then when he took office.
DID THIS HAPPEN???
Oh and did I mention along the way when "Mission Accomplished" occurred after less then six weeks of combat in May 2003.. 10 years ago..
that over 1 million Iraq people were saved from starving?
50,000 people a year were starving under Saddam and when he was removed, (by the way at the request of Kerry,Pelosi, and 90% of the 28 million Iraqis)
the UN mandated embargo was removed.
Researcher Richard Garfield estimated that "a minimum of 100,000 and a more likely estimate of 227,000 excess deaths among young children from August 1991 through March 1998" from all causes including sanctions. Human rights in Saddam Hussein's Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So given the above EVENTS that GWB FACED that IN MY LIFETIME NO other president had to face GWB will be known as one of the GREATEST Presidents"
SO all you people that boo,bash Bush.. and will want to trash this for once use your brains!
A) GWB Faced a recession meaning slower businesses lost jobs, lost taxes!
B) A MAJOR ATTACK on the soil of the USA not only our economic center WTC but our military center the Pentagon! No president EVER had that tremendous blow
to the American psyche! If none of you were around then or conveniently forget REMEMBER the anthrax attacks right afterwards and how with the terrorists
destructions wow... where were idiots that forget this?
C) Worst hurricane SEASONS (PLURAL) most destructive and most hurricanes from 2003 to 2008! You can believe the relatives of the 3,000 lost lives, the employees
and homeowners will never forget... WHY do you idiots forget!!
By the way here is Obama's unemployment record...
2009 9.28 Obama
2010 9.63
2011 8.95
2012 8.08
With the Presidents that followed only two will be to me the "greatest" Presidents.
NOW dealing strictly WITH HISTORICAL FACTS!!!
Faced with:
The misery index was initiated by economist Arthur Okun, an adviser to President Lyndon Johnson in the 1960's.
It is simply the unemployment rate added to the inflation rate.
The misery index under President Jimmy Carter averaged 16.26, with a high of 20.76 in 1980.
At one time under Carter,
Then President Ronald Reagan took over the index was 17.97, his highest.
If any president had an excuse to blame the previous administration, Reagan did.
Instead the misery index declined to 9.57 at the end of 1988.... a 9.61 points reduction or 53% reduction!!!
So looking at the inflation rate for the highest in history:
1980 annual inflation rate was 13.58% with March 1980 it reach 14.76% .
So the unemployment rate was in 1982 9.71% BUT using the Obama standard blame the previous President Carter...
From the highest it declined under Reagan to in 1988 5.49% again a nearly 43% drop in unemployment.
So At this point The greatest President was Reagan! Dropped inflation by 50% and unemployment dropped by 40%!
Two simplest measures of "greatness" in the Presidents in my life time.
BUT in my lifetime NO president had these 4 monumental cataclysmic events and historians will verify these FACTS as idiots seem to forget
what happened from 2001 to 2008!
Then we have G.W.Bush..
His unemployment rates:
2001 4.74
2002 5.78
2003 5.99
2004 5.54
2005 5.08
2006 4.61
2007 4.62
2008 5.80
Did ANY EXECUTIVE ACTIONS on the Part of GWB CAUSE THESE EVENTS to happen???
1) Recession that started under Clinton ended 11/01.
Specifically, 50.8 million jobs were lost through the first six quarters of the 01 recession .
Heritage Employment Report: February Continues Winter Blues
The 2001 recession officially started 03/2001... BUT the steps leading up to it started under Clinton!
DID THIS HAPPEN??
1) Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in lost market value..
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies.
More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion ? Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs
DID THIS HAPPEN??
2) Hard to believe but people forget that 9/11 occurred!
It cost $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York!!
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone.
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
3) $1 trillion in written off losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history!
The worst Katrina,made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages.
Hurricane Katrina ALONE! Year 2005: Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
On August 25, 2005, Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast of the U.S. as a strong Category 3 or low Category 4 storm. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.
Hurricane Rita quickly followed Katrina only to make matters worse. Between the two, more than $200 billion in damage was done. 400,000 jobs were lost and 275,000 homes were destroyed. Many of the jobs and homes were never to be recovered. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced and over 1,000 were killed and more are missing. The effect on oil and gasoline prices was long-lasting.
400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.
Largest Gross Domestic Product in history!!
When Bush took office in 2001 GDP was $12.355,271,000,000
when Bush left office in 2008 GDP was $14,359,490,000,000
A 16% increase in GDP or $2 TRILLION.
Bush growth of the GDP was greater then Clinton in 2005 GDP grew at 6.5% Clinton's best:6.4%
Measuring Worth - GDP result.
When Bush started 131,785,000 people employed.
At the end of 2008 136,790,000 people employed or
5,000,000 more employed then when he took office.
DID THIS HAPPEN???
Oh and did I mention along the way when "Mission Accomplished" occurred after less then six weeks of combat in May 2003.. 10 years ago..
that over 1 million Iraq people were saved from starving?
50,000 people a year were starving under Saddam and when he was removed, (by the way at the request of Kerry,Pelosi, and 90% of the 28 million Iraqis)
the UN mandated embargo was removed.
Researcher Richard Garfield estimated that "a minimum of 100,000 and a more likely estimate of 227,000 excess deaths among young children from August 1991 through March 1998" from all causes including sanctions. Human rights in Saddam Hussein's Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So given the above EVENTS that GWB FACED that IN MY LIFETIME NO other president had to face GWB will be known as one of the GREATEST Presidents"
SO all you people that boo,bash Bush.. and will want to trash this for once use your brains!
A) GWB Faced a recession meaning slower businesses lost jobs, lost taxes!
B) A MAJOR ATTACK on the soil of the USA not only our economic center WTC but our military center the Pentagon! No president EVER had that tremendous blow
to the American psyche! If none of you were around then or conveniently forget REMEMBER the anthrax attacks right afterwards and how with the terrorists
destructions wow... where were idiots that forget this?
C) Worst hurricane SEASONS (PLURAL) most destructive and most hurricanes from 2003 to 2008! You can believe the relatives of the 3,000 lost lives, the employees
and homeowners will never forget... WHY do you idiots forget!!
By the way here is Obama's unemployment record...
2009 9.28 Obama
2010 9.63
2011 8.95
2012 8.08
