Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

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FYI, Trump won the EC vote by 14.3%. Clinton - 42.2% of EC, Trump - 56.5% of the EC. The 7 unfaithful votes was 1.3% of the EC.

For the life of me, I can't figure out when Billybooboo got the .01% from.

When has anybody ever been able to figure out the convoluted rantings of any of these Moon Bats?
 
Irrelevant to politics, the mythical popular counts for nothing except on a State by State basis. There are no national elections, all elections are conducted at the State level. Welcome to a Constitutional Republic.
Agreed and disagreed. The popular count doesn't count for squat in the end even though it's a rare and interesting phenomenon that the electoral results are opposite the popular vote results.

Still, Americans value the First Amendment and if butthurt liberals want to whine, ***** and stomp their feet over it, they should be allowed to do so.

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The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

More: Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.
Why do you guys keep bragging about getting millions of illegal votes? Aren't you embarrassed?
 
The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

More: Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.


Irrelevant. Reported.
Reported? For what? If posting bullshit was against the rules, 3/4s of all the threads would be deleted.


Irrelevant to politics, the mythical popular counts for nothing except on a State by State basis. There are no national elections, all elections are conducted at the State level. Welcome to a Constitutional Republic.

It is exactly correct. In order to become part of a republic that is ruled by a constitution, a State wishing inclusion had to accept the conditions of such inclusion. New York, Illinois, California all knew this.

They want to leave, then start the process.

You think they are arrogant enough to believe that, just because the Cities might want to leave (those areas with lots of people and limited resources) that the rural areas would agree?

That would become damn messy in a real short amount of time.
 
For what it's worth, I felt your level of pain when Obama was elected.
 
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I didn't even bother to read the whole stupid thread but this win for Trump is the largest electoral win in American history. The left poked the people one time too many and we poked back. Keep up the childish nonsense lefty loonies and you will get poked again.
 
The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

More: Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.
You need a little adjustment here, biggest electoral win in 100 years baazinga
 
The problems we're now dealing with are because of Obama.
 
Facts just aren't a necessity of a libturd, propaganda and lies to try and victimize someone
 
Irrelevant to politics, the mythical popular counts for nothing except on a State by State basis. There are no national elections, all elections are conducted at the State level. Welcome to a Constitutional Republic.
Agreed and disagreed. The popular count doesn't count for squat in the end even though it's a rare and interesting phenomenon that the electoral results are opposite the popular vote results.

Still, Americans value the First Amendment and if butthurt liberals want to whine, ***** and stomp their feet over it, they should be allowed to do so.

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The point is it's a topic for general discussion, NOT POLITICS! It has nothing to do with our electoral system. Democracy ends at the State line.
 
The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

More: Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.
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Washington Redskin how many times have I told you stay out of the firewater...
 
The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

More: Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.
Why do you guys keep bragging about getting millions of illegal votes? Aren't you embarrassed?


Yep, Detroit had 788 votes more than they had voters and you know they didn't get 100% participation so there were thousands of illegal votes just there.
 
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The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

More: Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.

You arent really good at making your points.
 
I didn't even bother to read the whole stupid thread but this win for Trump is the largest electoral win in American history. The left poked the people one time too many and we poked back. Keep up the childish nonsense lefty loonies and you will get poked again.

It's actually not the "largest electoral win in American history," but it is a pretty overwhelming one
 
The Presidential Election of 2016 is unique in many ways, with maybe the most fascinating being that Donald Trump not only lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any President in total votes (2.84 million votes and counting), he also could not blame that fact on the presence of a strong third party challenger.

Not only did Donald Trump become the worst example of the Electoral College quandary that has now led to five Presidents losing the popular vote but being inaugurated President. Trump also became the 7th lowest popular percentage winner of the Presidency, with all six Presidents who had a lower popular vote percentage being part of an election in which a third or fourth party candidate had drawn substantial support. That wasn’t true in the election of 2016.

These are the relevant elections, ranked in order from lowest popular vote getter:

John Quincy Adams won a four-way race with a Democratic-Republican Party splitting up in the first popular vote election in 1824, winning 30.92 percent of the vote, ending up second in popular votes but winning the Presidency in the House of Representatives, over the first place popular and electoral vote winner, Andrew Jackson. (Jackson failed to win the presidency because he lacked a majority of the electoral vote, forcing the election into the House of Representatives.) Henry Clay and William Crawford also received electoral votes in that election which reorganized the party system. Jackson had a popular vote margin of about 38,000 over Adams, so Adams became the only popular vote loser among the lowest Presidents inaugurated, until now joined by Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln won 39.65 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1860, with his three competitors being Stephen Douglas, John C. Breckinridge, and John Bell, and all four winning electoral votes, but with Lincoln winning the second lowest percentage ever due to winning only the Northern “free states.”

Woodrow Wilson won 41.84 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1912, with four candidates in the race, and two of his opponents, President William Howard Taft, and former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Bull Moose Party) winning electoral votes, with TR having the best third party popular vote and electoral vote performance in all of American history, 6 states, 27.4 percent of the total popular vote, and 88 electoral votes.

Bill Clinton won 43.01 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1992, with President George H. W. Bush and H. Ross Perot, running as an Independent. Perot won no states in the Electoral College, but won 18.9 percent of the popular vote, the third best performance in that regard, causing Clinton to win the fourth lowest popular vote percentage in American history.

Richard Nixon won 43.42 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1968 against Democrat Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace, who ran on the American Independent Party line. Wallace gained 5 states, 13.5 percent of the total popular vote (fifth best ever in American history), and 46 electoral votes, the second best total after TR in 1912.

James Buchanan won 45.29 percent of the vote in the Presidential Election of 1856, with John C. Fremont and former President Millard Fillmore running on the American (Know Nothing) party line, and winning 21.5 percent of the total popular vote, and gaining the 8 electoral votes of Maryland. In so doing, Fillmore had the second highest percentage of the popular vote of any third party in American history, behind TR in 1912.

More: Why Donald Trump’s Electoral College win is the weakest victory in American history

Therefore, Trump cannot factually claim that he has any kind of mandate. He doesn't.

Here's a fact that Hillary can claim. She lost....... TWICE. She lost to Obama and Trump. How's the Foundation doing since November?
 
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