Why Does The Right Not Want Confederate Statues Removed?

[OldLady]

I mean, at least twice a month, the pseudocons on this forum start topics to tell us that Confederates were racist Democrats and bad, bad, bad people.


So why is the Right defending those statues of evil Democrats? Hmmmm? Why were they sending out of state protesters to Virginia? Hmmmm?


Oftentimes, two pseudocons will start the same kind of topic on the same day. It's almost as if someone is telling all the tards this shit on a Tard Network.


So why is the Right defending a Democrat statue? Why?

Because we don't trust flaming Leftist to know when to Stop?? Or even govt making the decision what to PURGE from history?

It's a bad precedent that will be abused. The slippery slope is too dangerous to allow raging PARTISANS to control.. Best controlled by the people and communities.

How do you PURGE this???

That's the College of Washington and Lee. Still a valued school. Too much chance for witchhunts and Inquisitions by law and power of the State.

Just have the tolerance and the maturity to know the stories and accept them..

But FCT, it WAS the people--the local Town Council--that voted to remove the statue. Who is the "we" you think should stop the people at the local level from deciding what statue is in their park?
Personally, if it were in my town, I would oppose removing it. However, your argument makes it sound as if some amorphous foreign power came in and determined to get rid of the statue. It wasn't. Perhaps the town is quite liberal, being a college town?
Just don't make it sound as if the liberals in general have somehow taken over. This was the people who decided. They voted for their Council members and they no doubt had plenty of input at public meetings about it. Then the Alt Right comes barreling into town to make a big ruckus about it when some of them weren't even from Virginia, let alone that town. I read that in Kentucky, the governor is putting removing a couple of confederate statues from the State House grounds on the fast track, to avoid this kind of episode from happening there.

It's not a boogey man of liberals here. It was a local decision and a group of Alt Right folks taking advantage of it, at the expense of the town. I hope other towns will refuse the permits.

 

[bendog]

I agree more left side, the statue should stay, its part of history, the civil war happened, massive amounts of dead Americans, maybe we could keep this in mind so we don't do it again.

And lets put a statue of Adolph right next to the traitorous American Lee because that's what he was

Once again if it was 60 years plus old , why the fuck take it down?

Because they were erected at the height of Klan lynching, Jim Crowe and UVa's legal segregation. That's what they were built to celebrate.

I'd be more in favor of a law saying they could remain if in five years private funds were raised for a statute of dred scott or Thomas hardy to be placed nearby

I don't know how old they are, you have links or do I have to waste my time and bother to research them for myself?


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Of course you don't. You really don't want to know about the statue. Your agenda has nothing to do with what the statue stands for. That is more than clear. racist mofo

 

[bendog]

From the Washington and Lee College website ----

Founded in 1749, Washington and Lee University is named for two men who played pivotal roles in the University's history: George Washington, whose generous endowment of $20,000 in 1796 helped the fledgling school (then known as Liberty Hall Academy) survive, and Robert E. Lee, who provided innovative educational leadership during his transformational tenure as president of Washington College from 1865 to 1870.

The University is located in the historic city of Lexington, Virginia (population 7,000), a warm, welcoming and historic college town located in the Great Valley of Virginia between the Blue Ridge and the Allegheny Mountains. W&L’s 35 principal buildings include the picturesque Washington College group forming the Colonnade facing Lee Chapel, where Robert E. Lee is buried. The Colonnade and Lee Chapel are National Historic Landmarks.

The ninth oldest institution of higher education in America, Washington and Lee is composed of two undergraduate divisions, the College and the Williams School of Commerce, Economics, and Politics; and a graduate School of Law. Offering 37 undergraduate majors and 29 minors, including a number of interdisciplinary programs, the University prides itself on the depth and breadth of our curriculum, in which traditional liberal arts courses are augmented by offerings from the only fully-accredited business school and fully-accredited journalism program among the nation's top-tier liberal arts colleges.


How much of ANY of that do RATIONAL non-flaming party partisans want to erase?? What will you ALLOW them to erase? Gotz NOTHING to do with "white nationalists". It's between YOU and ME..

Not gonna happen in a free and rational America..

Right state, but wrong school and city. UVa and Charlottesville. UVa was founded by that fine upstanding moralist Thomas Jefferson

The topic is PURGING historical monuments, statues and symbols. Washington and Lee University is ONE of them. I'm not confused. Are you??? What are the leftist busybodies gonna do about Wash and Lee College?

W&L was at one time segregated, but it is not and even has affirmative action. Now go along and play with your tinker toys. The adults were discussing Lee's statute in Charlottesville

 

[Wyatt earp]

I agree more left side, the statue should stay, its part of history, the civil war happened, massive amounts of dead Americans, maybe we could keep this in mind so we don't do it again.

And lets put a statue of Adolph right next to the traitorous American Lee because that's what he was

Once again if it was 60 years plus old , why the fuck take it down?

Because they were erected at the height of Klan lynching, Jim Crowe and UVa's legal segregation. That's what they were built to celebrate.

I'd be more in favor of a law saying they could remain if in five years private funds were raised for a statute of dred scott or Thomas hardy to be placed nearby

I don't know how old they are, you have links or do I have to waste my time and bother to research them for myself?


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A day after a tense white nationalist gathering in his city turned deadly, Charlottesville Mayor Michael Signer expressed his displeasure with how Donald Trump carried himself during the 2016 presidential campaign.

"Old saying: when you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change, the devil changes you," Signer said on NBC's "Meet The Press" Sunday morning, explaining why he previously said on Saturday that he hopes President Trump"looks himself in the mirror and thinks very deeply about who he consorted with."

"I think they made a choice in that campaign," Signer continued. "A very regrettable one, to really go to people's prejudices, to go to the gutter."

Images of white supremacist protesters violently clashing with counter protesters:

Once again the Nazis had a permit, the alt left trolls did not... Jesus the left keeps on saying we should leave the middle East because it just encourages more terrorist to join the ranks..


How about if the alt left practices what they preach and just ignore the Nazis and don't give them any attention?


You dumb fucks gave the Nazis what they crave...


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[basquebromance]

once Nikki Haley took down the Confederate Flag because of 1 evil psycho's murders, there was peace throughout the land!

wait...

 

[flacaltenn]

I mean, at least twice a month, the pseudocons on this forum start topics to tell us that Confederates were racist Democrats and bad, bad, bad people.


So why is the Right defending those statues of evil Democrats? Hmmmm? Why were they sending out of state protesters to Virginia? Hmmmm?


Oftentimes, two pseudocons will start the same kind of topic on the same day. It's almost as if someone is telling all the tards this shit on a Tard Network.


So why is the Right defending a Democrat statue? Why?

Because we don't trust flaming Leftist to know when to Stop?? Or even govt making the decision what to PURGE from history?

It's a bad precedent that will be abused. The slippery slope is too dangerous to allow raging PARTISANS to control.. Best controlled by the people and communities.

How do you PURGE this???

That's the College of Washington and Lee. Still a valued school. Too much chance for witchhunts and Inquisitions by law and power of the State.

Just have the tolerance and the maturity to know the stories and accept them..

But FCT, it WAS the people--the local Town Council--that voted to remove the statue. Who is the "we" you think should stop the people at the local level from deciding what statue is in their park?
Personally, if it were in my town, I would oppose removing it. However, your argument makes it sound as if some amorphous foreign power came in and determined to get rid of the statue. It wasn't. Perhaps the town is quite liberal, being a college town?
Just don't make it sound as if the liberals in general have somehow taken over. This was the people who decided. They voted for their Council members and they no doubt had plenty of input at public meetings about it. Then the Alt Right comes barreling into town to make a big ruckus about it when some of them weren't even from Virginia, let alone that town. I read that in Kentucky, the governor is putting removing a couple of confederate statues from the State House grounds on the fast track, to avoid this kind of episode from happening there.

It's not a boogey man of liberals here. It was a local decision and a group of Alt Right folks taking advantage of it, at the expense of the town. I hope other towns will refuse the permits.

City councils are notorious to bending over to pressure. And if you research this -- it's a political movement from "out of town" that consistently brought the pressure. If ANYTHING -- elected govts should err on the side of PRESERVING history, culture -- since that's in the INTEREST of the City's HERITAGE and worth.

 

[bendog]

I agree more left side, the statue should stay, its part of history, the civil war happened, massive amounts of dead Americans, maybe we could keep this in mind so we don't do it again.

And lets put a statue of Adolph right next to the traitorous American Lee because that's what he was

Once again if it was 60 years plus old , why the fuck take it down?

Because they were erected at the height of Klan lynching, Jim Crowe and UVa's legal segregation. That's what they were built to celebrate.

I'd be more in favor of a law saying they could remain if in five years private funds were raised for a statute of dred scott or Thomas hardy to be placed nearby

I don't know how old they are, you have links or do I have to waste my time and bother to research them for myself?


.

A day after a tense white nationalist gathering in his city turned deadly, Charlottesville Mayor Michael Signer expressed his displeasure with how Donald Trump carried himself during the 2016 presidential campaign.

"Old saying: when you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change, the devil changes you," Signer said on NBC's "Meet The Press" Sunday morning, explaining why he previously said on Saturday that he hopes President Trump"looks himself in the mirror and thinks very deeply about who he consorted with."

"I think they made a choice in that campaign," Signer continued. "A very regrettable one, to really go to people's prejudices, to go to the gutter."

Images of white supremacist protesters violently clashing with counter protesters:

Well, the counter protestors had their own political agenda, and it was not about free speech. That doesn't excuse violence. And nothing excuses the racist history of Bobby Lee's statue in Charlottesville. Maybe it shouldn't be removed to a private setting, but if not, it's true history should be on full display so the history ALL people of ALL races can be truthfully shown

 

[Wyatt earp]

From the Washington and Lee College website ----

Founded in 1749, Washington and Lee University is named for two men who played pivotal roles in the University's history: George Washington, whose generous endowment of $20,000 in 1796 helped the fledgling school (then known as Liberty Hall Academy) survive, and Robert E. Lee, who provided innovative educational leadership during his transformational tenure as president of Washington College from 1865 to 1870.

The University is located in the historic city of Lexington, Virginia (population 7,000), a warm, welcoming and historic college town located in the Great Valley of Virginia between the Blue Ridge and the Allegheny Mountains. W&L’s 35 principal buildings include the picturesque Washington College group forming the Colonnade facing Lee Chapel, where Robert E. Lee is buried. The Colonnade and Lee Chapel are National Historic Landmarks.

The ninth oldest institution of higher education in America, Washington and Lee is composed of two undergraduate divisions, the College and the Williams School of Commerce, Economics, and Politics; and a graduate School of Law. Offering 37 undergraduate majors and 29 minors, including a number of interdisciplinary programs, the University prides itself on the depth and breadth of our curriculum, in which traditional liberal arts courses are augmented by offerings from the only fully-accredited business school and fully-accredited journalism program among the nation's top-tier liberal arts colleges.


How much of ANY of that do RATIONAL non-flaming party partisans want to erase?? What will you ALLOW them to erase? Gotz NOTHING to do with "white nationalists". It's between YOU and ME..

Not gonna happen in a free and rational America..

Right state, but wrong school and city. UVa and Charlottesville. UVa was founded by that fine upstanding moralist Thomas Jefferson

The topic is PURGING historical monuments, statues and symbols. Washington and Lee University is ONE of them. I'm not confused. Are you??? What are the leftist busybodies gonna do about Wash and Lee College?

W&L was at one time segregated, but it is not and even has affirmative action. Now go along and play with your tinker toys. The adults were discussing Lee's statute in Charlottesville

The blue state cities are still segregated today, anyone denying it is a fool.


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[Flash]

[Q


Look at you, redefining slavery, snowflake.

You are confused Moon Bat.

Taking the fruits of my labor by government force and giving it to away to somebody that didn't earn it is pretty much the historical definition of slavery. However, if calling your filthy ass welfare state a slave state offends you so much then you can even call it thievery if you want.

 

[TheDude]

Say OP, I see you've congratulated yourself on a job well done. Add some merit to your opinion, and explain why it doesn't apply to the following POUS. According to your narrative, we should probably start with George Washington. As a matter of fact, Washington DC best change their name, because it's named for a guy who participated in slavery.

Per liberal narrative the following must be demolished. http://www.onecolumbiasc.com/wp-con...c.com/images/public_art/4906/12.2-300x400.jpg

List of Presidents of the United States who owned slaves - Wikipedia

You're going to have to remove all monuments for Ulysses S. Grant as well. He owned slaves. That's irony.

 

[bendog]

I have to kill weeds. I'll think of klansmen. (-:

 

[MaryL]

I live in the Midwest, so this isn't an issue. It boggles my mind, that people even notice statuary. I have seen some bad sculptures, bought with public money I would like to see blown to tiny little pieces. One has been replaced ( Rev. Martin Luther King bronze at Denver's city park, it was so bad). The other is that orange triangle thingy by Denver's downtown Library. UGLY dosen't cover it. And, then there's a horse on a chair opposite. Yeah. All paid with taxpayer's money. That's the out rage. At least there was artistic merit and historical background to Confederate statues.

 

[Wyatt earp]

And lets put a statue of Adolph right next to the traitorous American Lee because that's what he was

Once again if it was 60 years plus old , why the fuck take it down?

Because they were erected at the height of Klan lynching, Jim Crowe and UVa's legal segregation. That's what they were built to celebrate.

I'd be more in favor of a law saying they could remain if in five years private funds were raised for a statute of dred scott or Thomas hardy to be placed nearby

I don't know how old they are, you have links or do I have to waste my time and bother to research them for myself?


.

A day after a tense white nationalist gathering in his city turned deadly, Charlottesville Mayor Michael Signer expressed his displeasure with how Donald Trump carried himself during the 2016 presidential campaign.

"Old saying: when you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change, the devil changes you," Signer said on NBC's "Meet The Press" Sunday morning, explaining why he previously said on Saturday that he hopes President Trump"looks himself in the mirror and thinks very deeply about who he consorted with."

"I think they made a choice in that campaign," Signer continued. "A very regrettable one, to really go to people's prejudices, to go to the gutter."

Images of white supremacist protesters violently clashing with counter protesters:

Well, the counter protestors had their own political agenda, and it was not about free speech. That doesn't excuse violence. And nothing excuses the racist history of Bobby Lee's statue in Charlottesville. Maybe it shouldn't be removed to a private setting, but if not, it's true history should be on full display so the history ALL people of ALL races can be truthfully shown

Stop with the revisionist history , it was about state rights as much as slavery..just like how the left loves to revise history about gold water.


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[DarkFury]

I mean, at least twice a month, the pseudocons on this forum start topics to tell us that Confederates were racist Democrats and bad, bad, bad people.


So why is the Right defending those statues of evil Democrats? Hmmmm? Why were they sending out of state protesters to Virginia? Hmmmm?


Oftentimes, two pseudocons will start the same kind of topic on the same day. It's almost as if someone is telling all the tards this shit on a Tard Network.


So why is the Right defending a Democrat statue? Why?

So we can remind people of Democrats horrid treatment of people!

 

[Flash]

Check out the "Texan" yesterday that was advocating taking down the statute of Robert E. Lee.

Typical Moon Bat. Fat, hateful, stupid and a Communist.

 

[flacaltenn]

I mean, at least twice a month, the pseudocons on this forum start topics to tell us that Confederates were racist Democrats and bad, bad, bad people.


So why is the Right defending those statues of evil Democrats? Hmmmm? Why were they sending out of state protesters to Virginia? Hmmmm?


Oftentimes, two pseudocons will start the same kind of topic on the same day. It's almost as if someone is telling all the tards this shit on a Tard Network.


So why is the Right defending a Democrat statue? Why?

Because we don't trust flaming Leftist to know when to Stop?? Or even govt making the decision what to PURGE from history?

It's a bad precedent that will be abused. The slippery slope is too dangerous to allow raging PARTISANS to control.. Best controlled by the people and communities.

How do you PURGE this???

That's the College of Washington and Lee. Still a valued school. Too much chance for witchhunts and Inquisitions by law and power of the State.

Just have the tolerance and the maturity to know the stories and accept them..

But FCT, it WAS the people--the local Town Council--that voted to remove the statue. Who is the "we" you think should stop the people at the local level from deciding what statue is in their park?
Personally, if it were in my town, I would oppose removing it. However, your argument makes it sound as if some amorphous foreign power came in and determined to get rid of the statue. It wasn't. Perhaps the town is quite liberal, being a college town?
Just don't make it sound as if the liberals in general have somehow taken over. This was the people who decided. They voted for their Council members and they no doubt had plenty of input at public meetings about it. Then the Alt Right comes barreling into town to make a big ruckus about it when some of them weren't even from Virginia, let alone that town. I read that in Kentucky, the governor is putting removing a couple of confederate statues from the State House grounds on the fast track, to avoid this kind of episode from happening there.

It's not a boogey man of liberals here. It was a local decision and a group of Alt Right folks taking advantage of it, at the expense of the town. I hope other towns will refuse the permits.

Also -- at some point, I personally believe that a confrontation was DESIRED over this. Hence the permit to assemble and all the press attention to the statue removal.. So it's not that the folks organizing this symbol purge Taliban MOVEMENT brought into town without KNOWING that that sort of thing just makes the Deep Fried Southern Crackers go beserk.. It's waving red meat at them. That's part of why there's an organized effort BIGGER than Charlottesville. They EXPECT A CONFRONTATION. And i think they were hoping for it..

 

[Wyatt earp]

I live in the Midwest, so this isn't an issue. It boggles my mind, that people even notice statuary. I have seen some bad sculptures, bought with public money I would like to see blown to tiny little pieces. One has been replaced ( Rev. Martin Luther King bronze at Denver's city park, it was so bad). The other is that orange triangle thingy by Denver's downtown Library. UGLY dosen't cover it. And, then there s a horse on a chair opposite. Yeah. All paid with taxpayer's money. That's the out rage. At least there was artistic merit and historical background to Confederate statues.

It wasn't a issue down here until more northern lefty vultures who destroyed their own home towns up North with high taxes and kept on voting Democrats fled to the South.

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[flacaltenn]

From the Washington and Lee College website ----

Founded in 1749, Washington and Lee University is named for two men who played pivotal roles in the University's history: George Washington, whose generous endowment of $20,000 in 1796 helped the fledgling school (then known as Liberty Hall Academy) survive, and Robert E. Lee, who provided innovative educational leadership during his transformational tenure as president of Washington College from 1865 to 1870.

The University is located in the historic city of Lexington, Virginia (population 7,000), a warm, welcoming and historic college town located in the Great Valley of Virginia between the Blue Ridge and the Allegheny Mountains. W&L’s 35 principal buildings include the picturesque Washington College group forming the Colonnade facing Lee Chapel, where Robert E. Lee is buried. The Colonnade and Lee Chapel are National Historic Landmarks.

The ninth oldest institution of higher education in America, Washington and Lee is composed of two undergraduate divisions, the College and the Williams School of Commerce, Economics, and Politics; and a graduate School of Law. Offering 37 undergraduate majors and 29 minors, including a number of interdisciplinary programs, the University prides itself on the depth and breadth of our curriculum, in which traditional liberal arts courses are augmented by offerings from the only fully-accredited business school and fully-accredited journalism program among the nation's top-tier liberal arts colleges.


How much of ANY of that do RATIONAL non-flaming party partisans want to erase?? What will you ALLOW them to erase? Gotz NOTHING to do with "white nationalists". It's between YOU and ME..

Not gonna happen in a free and rational America..

Right state, but wrong school and city. UVa and Charlottesville. UVa was founded by that fine upstanding moralist Thomas Jefferson

The topic is PURGING historical monuments, statues and symbols. Washington and Lee University is ONE of them. I'm not confused. Are you??? What are the leftist busybodies gonna do about Wash and Lee College?

W&L was at one time segregated, but it is not and even has affirmative action. Now go along and play with your tinker toys. The adults were discussing Lee's statute in Charlottesville

You're the one with the tunnel vision trying to prevent the adults from showing the BIGGER picture of what's going here. There are organized dedicated Groups funded and organized by Gawd knows who, maybe even Terry McCauliffe --- that are carrying this Jihad from City to City --- EXPECTING to excite confrontation ..

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Let's remove every statue of every man who owned slaves, both north and south. ok?!

 

[MaryL]

I live in the Midwest, so this isn't an issue. It boggles my mind, that people even notice statuary. I have seen some bad sculptures, bought with public money I would like to see blown to tiny little pieces. One has been replaced ( Rev. Martin Luther King bronze at Denver's city park, it was so bad). The other is that orange triangle thingy by Denver's downtown Library. UGLY dosen't cover it. And, then there s a horse on a chair opposite. Yeah. All paid with taxpayer's money. That's the out rage. At least there was artistic merit and historical background to Confederate statues.

It wasn't a issue down here until more northern lefty vultures who destroyed their own home towns up North with high taxes and kept on voting Democrats fled to the South.

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I really am no fan of the confederacy. I know what they were about. You can't erase history by tearing down statues. Better those statues remain to remind of us of the past. Reminds us of human folly and tragedy that is history.