Why does the right defend the wealthy class

[Rustic]

How about mind our own business, how cares what someone else makes,
It's theirs.

If someone is not making enough in their opinion(most likely they are getting what they are worth if they are complaining) they just need to get the lead out of their a$$ and work smarter/harder.

Hashtag our country has become a nation of lazy whiners

That's not true. The system the way its set up now is rigged. What you are saying is the new GOP tax system where the rich no longer pay their fair share is what it is and we can't do anything about it. I disagree. Class warfare exists. Right now we are loosing.

To work for someone is a privilege not an right... Don't treat is as so.

We are not France... Where they have more vacation time than work days every year.

 

[sealybobo]

I know people who are related to the wealthy class in Venezuela.

We've discussed Chavez on several occasions.

Their take:

What goes on there is not reported as it is.

They actually support what has happened and say that it has lifted many people out of poverty.

I am not defending it.

I am saying that I have counter claims from people who have relatives who are living it who say it is not what the press says it is.

Just like the haves here in America have a completely different opinion than the have nots.

I'm sure a rich communist would defend communism.

But the facts are, the "have nots" in America, are actually the Haves. Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world.

You do realize that if you have an income of just $32,000 a year, you are the top 1% of wage earners in the world?

The fact is the majority of the planet, can only DREAM of the standard of living, that our poorest people have.

"Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world."


You KNOW CONservative economic policys are a failure when you MUST compare it to 3rd world nations, lol

In one breath conservatives argue how good poor Americans got it then say IF America sucks for the poor and middle class policies that ruined it.

I can just hear all the twisted spin on unions ruining America.

If it weren't for liberals there would never have been the middle class the new deal created.

God Republicans are stupid. The create NAFTA then send all those jobs to India China and mexico because they wanted to max profits. Union or not they didn't want to pay high American wages. They think Walmart wages are what uneducated masses should make. Not Ford or gm wages. Do away with those jobs and unions and Toyota and Honda workers would make Walmart wages.

Right to work states are better...

Honda and Toyota should pay their factory workers Walmart wages, right? They didn't go to college.

 

[sealybobo]

How about mind our own business, how cares what someone else makes,
It's theirs.

If someone is not making enough in their opinion(most likely they are getting what they are worth if they are complaining) they just need to get the lead out of their a$$ and work smarter/harder.

Hashtag our country has become a nation of lazy whiners

That's not true. The system the way its set up now is rigged. What you are saying is the new GOP tax system where the rich no longer pay their fair share is what it is and we can't do anything about it. I disagree. Class warfare exists. Right now we are loosing.

To work for someone is a privilege not an right... Don't treat is as so.

We are not France... Where they have more vacation time than work days every year.

Jealous?

 

[easyt65]

Throwing 'loaded' questions / threads out like this is what you call 'trolling' or 'fishing', throwing crap on the end of a line out to see if you can get a bite. LOL

I'll play, but I'll respond in kind with 1 question of my own:

Why are Liberals so depraved that they demand the right to kill babies at ANY stage in a pregnancy, even is they are alive outside the womb having survived a failed abortion, and the right to butcher them, sell the parts for cash and lamborghinis, and force everyone to fund it through taxes?

 

[Rustic]

Just like the haves here in America have a completely different opinion than the have nots.

I'm sure a rich communist would defend communism.

But the facts are, the "have nots" in America, are actually the Haves. Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world.

You do realize that if you have an income of just $32,000 a year, you are the top 1% of wage earners in the world?

The fact is the majority of the planet, can only DREAM of the standard of living, that our poorest people have.

"Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world."


You KNOW CONservative economic policys are a failure when you MUST compare it to 3rd world nations, lol

In one breath conservatives argue how good poor Americans got it then say IF America sucks for the poor and middle class policies that ruined it.

I can just hear all the twisted spin on unions ruining America.

If it weren't for liberals there would never have been the middle class the new deal created.

God Republicans are stupid. The create NAFTA then send all those jobs to India China and mexico because they wanted to max profits. Union or not they didn't want to pay high American wages. They think Walmart wages are what uneducated masses should make. Not Ford or gm wages. Do away with those jobs and unions and Toyota and Honda workers would make Walmart wages.

Right to work states are better...

Honda and Toyota should pay their factory workers Walmart wages, right? They didn't go to college.

The employer should be able to say what they pay within reason... It's their company, your employees and jack a$$ unions telling the owners what they should pay their employees, it is no longer the owners company if they are told by their employees what to pay... To hell with that... The dumb a$$ employees can look else where for a job.

Unions can burn in hell

 

[Rustic]

How about mind our own business, how cares what someone else makes,
It's theirs.

If someone is not making enough in their opinion(most likely they are getting what they are worth if they are complaining) they just need to get the lead out of their a$$ and work smarter/harder.

Hashtag our country has become a nation of lazy whiners

That's not true. The system the way its set up now is rigged. What you are saying is the new GOP tax system where the rich no longer pay their fair share is what it is and we can't do anything about it. I disagree. Class warfare exists. Right now we are loosing.

To work for someone is a privilege not an right... Don't treat is as so.

We are not France... Where they have more vacation time than work days every year.

Jealous?

Not really, their economy reflects a lazy country...

 

[sealybobo]

How about mind our own business, how cares what someone else makes,
It's theirs.

If someone is not making enough in their opinion(most likely they are getting what they are worth if they are complaining) they just need to get the lead out of their a$$ and work smarter/harder.

Hashtag our country has become a nation of lazy whiners

That's not true. The system the way its set up now is rigged. What you are saying is the new GOP tax system where the rich no longer pay their fair share is what it is and we can't do anything about it. I disagree. Class warfare exists. Right now we are loosing.

To work for someone is a privilege not an right... Don't treat is as so.

We are not France... Where they have more vacation time than work days every year.

Jealous?

Not really, their economy reflects a lazy country...

They/you guys say the same thing about American workers.

 

[sealybobo]

But the facts are, the "have nots" in America, are actually the Haves. Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world.

You do realize that if you have an income of just $32,000 a year, you are the top 1% of wage earners in the world?

The fact is the majority of the planet, can only DREAM of the standard of living, that our poorest people have.

"Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world."


You KNOW CONservative economic policys are a failure when you MUST compare it to 3rd world nations, lol

In one breath conservatives argue how good poor Americans got it then say IF America sucks for the poor and middle class policies that ruined it.

I can just hear all the twisted spin on unions ruining America.

If it weren't for liberals there would never have been the middle class the new deal created.

God Republicans are stupid. The create NAFTA then send all those jobs to India China and mexico because they wanted to max profits. Union or not they didn't want to pay high American wages. They think Walmart wages are what uneducated masses should make. Not Ford or gm wages. Do away with those jobs and unions and Toyota and Honda workers would make Walmart wages.

Right to work states are better...

Honda and Toyota should pay their factory workers Walmart wages, right? They didn't go to college.

The employer should be able to say what they pay within reason... It's their company, your employees and jack a$$ unions telling the owners what they should pay their employees, it is no longer the owners company if they are told by their employees what to pay... To hell with that... The dumb a$$ employees can look else where for a job.

Unions can burn in hell

So can the Americans who use to be middle class. Only their hell starts when they can no longer work but they won't have enough to ever retire.

But the CEO will retire at 50. Move to France.

 

[Rustic]

How about mind our own business, how cares what someone else makes,
It's theirs.

If someone is not making enough in their opinion(most likely they are getting what they are worth if they are complaining) they just need to get the lead out of their a$$ and work smarter/harder.

Hashtag our country has become a nation of lazy whiners

That's not true. The system the way its set up now is rigged. What you are saying is the new GOP tax system where the rich no longer pay their fair share is what it is and we can't do anything about it. I disagree. Class warfare exists. Right now we are loosing.

To work for someone is a privilege not an right... Don't treat is as so.

We are not France... Where they have more vacation time than work days every year.

Jealous?

Not really, their economy reflects a lazy country...

They/you guys say the same thing about American workers.

Right to work states

 

[Rustic]

"Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world."


You KNOW CONservative economic policys are a failure when you MUST compare it to 3rd world nations, lol

In one breath conservatives argue how good poor Americans got it then say IF America sucks for the poor and middle class policies that ruined it.

I can just hear all the twisted spin on unions ruining America.

If it weren't for liberals there would never have been the middle class the new deal created.

God Republicans are stupid. The create NAFTA then send all those jobs to India China and mexico because they wanted to max profits. Union or not they didn't want to pay high American wages. They think Walmart wages are what uneducated masses should make. Not Ford or gm wages. Do away with those jobs and unions and Toyota and Honda workers would make Walmart wages.

Right to work states are better...

Honda and Toyota should pay their factory workers Walmart wages, right? They didn't go to college.

The employer should be able to say what they pay within reason... It's their company, your employees and jack a$$ unions telling the owners what they should pay their employees, it is no longer the owners company if they are told by their employees what to pay... To hell with that... The dumb a$$ employees can look else where for a job.

Unions can burn in hell

So can the Americans who use to be middle class. Only their hell starts when they can no longer work but they won't have enough to ever retire.

But the CEO will retire at 50. Move to France.

Move to the land of the incest? Pass, no thanks.

 

[easyt65]

You Libs DO know that your own politicians ARE part of the 'wealthy class' and do whatever they can to avoid paying their fair share of taxes, right?!

Charlie Rangel - tax cheat who has been busted several times for tax evasion but never punished for it.

Most of Obama's Cabinet members, to include the head of the Dept of the treasury for pete's sake - lil' Timmy Tax Cheat Geithner - were tax evaders who had not paid their taxes.

Millionaure Harry Reid LIED on the floor of the Senate claiming Romney had not paid taxes. Not only had he paid taxes but he gave more money to charity than millionaires Obama, Biden, and Reid combined...

Obama used MILLIONS of middle class tax dollars to ensure his rich donors did not lose their invested money in Solyndra & 12 other failed green energy companies when they went bankrupt....he made sure those wealthy class investors didn't lose THEIR money but didn't care if the middle class got screwed out of their hard earned tax dollars...

...but you still hypocritically and ignorantly accuse ghe GOP for defending the wealthy class. LOL!

 

[Dad2three]

You Libs DO know that your own politicians ARE part of the 'wealthy class' and do whatever they can to avoid paying their fair share of taxes, right?!

Charlie Rangel - tax cheat who has been busted several times for tax evasion but never punished for it.

Most of Obama's Cabinet members, to include the head of the Dept of the treasury for pete's sake - lil' Timmy Tax Cheat Geithner - were tax evaders who had not paid their taxes.

Millionaure Harry Reid LIED on the floor of the Senate claiming Romney had not paid taxes. Not only had he paid taxes but he gave more money to charity than millionaires Obama, Biden, and Reid combined...

Obama used MILLIONS of middle class tax dollars to ensure his rich donors did not lose their invested money in Solyndra & 12 other failed green energy companies when they went bankrupt....he made sure those wealthy class investors didn't lose THEIR money but didn't care if the middle class got screwed out of their hard earned tax dollars...

...but you still hypocritically and ignorantly accuse ghe GOP for defending the wealthy class. LOL!

Solyndra MORE CONservative nonsense!

Bush Admin. Advanced16 Projects, Including Solyndra, Out Of 143 Submissions
Hearings and Votes | Energy & Commerce Committee

DOE Under Bush Admin. Set Out Timeline For Completing Solyndra Review
http://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/Solar Background Document 1.pdf

Solyndra=1% of DOE energy money


Reuters: Venture Capitalists Point To Solyndra As One Of The Top 10 Companies "Ripest" To Go Public. Reuters reported in August 2009:
Investors eye top startups as IPO market awakens - Aug. 19, 2009


Market Conditions Shifted Significantly from 2009 to 2011


"advantages that were more important in 2009 when it received a $535 million U.S. loan guarantee to build a factory" than they are now, noting that the price of the silicon-based panels with which Solyndra was competing "has fallen 46 percent since then."
Obama’s Solar Bets May Avoid Solyndra’s Fate With Low Costs

 

[Rustic]

You Libs DO know that your own politicians ARE part of the 'wealthy class' and do whatever they can to avoid paying their fair share of taxes, right?!

Charlie Rangel - tax cheat who has been busted several times for tax evasion but never punished for it.

Most of Obama's Cabinet members, to include the head of the Dept of the treasury for pete's sake - lil' Timmy Tax Cheat Geithner - were tax evaders who had not paid their taxes.

Millionaure Harry Reid LIED on the floor of the Senate claiming Romney had not paid taxes. Not only had he paid taxes but he gave more money to charity than millionaires Obama, Biden, and Reid combined...

Obama used MILLIONS of middle class tax dollars to ensure his rich donors did not lose their invested money in Solyndra & 12 other failed green energy companies when they went bankrupt....he made sure those wealthy class investors didn't lose THEIR money but didn't care if the middle class got screwed out of their hard earned tax dollars...

...but you still hypocritically and ignorantly accuse ghe GOP for defending the wealthy class. LOL!

Solyndra MORE CONservative nonsense!

Bush Admin. Advanced16 Projects, Including Solyndra, Out Of 143 Submissions
Hearings and Votes | Energy & Commerce Committee

DOE Under Bush Admin. Set Out Timeline For Completing Solyndra Review
http://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/Solar Background Document 1.pdf

Solyndra=1% of DOE energy money


Reuters: Venture Capitalists Point To Solyndra As One Of The Top 10 Companies "Ripest" To Go Public. Reuters reported in August 2009:
Investors eye top startups as IPO market awakens - Aug. 19, 2009


Market Conditions Shifted Significantly from 2009 to 2011


"advantages that were more important in 2009 when it received a $535 million U.S. loan guarantee to build a factory" than they are now, noting that the price of the silicon-based panels with which Solyndra was competing "has fallen 46 percent since then."
Obama’s Solar Bets May Avoid Solyndra’s Fate With Low Costs

So what's your point?
It makes no matter if the career politicians have an "d" or a "r" in front of their names... They all are just progressives.

Embrace the suck

 

[easyt65]

Dad, Obama was the one to use tax dollars to pay back HIS supporters when these companies went bankrupt, which was during his presidency. Nice try...

 

[Sun Devil 92]

HINT GOV'T POLICY:

Inequality?
Work harder/smarter... Simple as that.

Simple? Oh right bumper sticker CONservatismn. Shocking "answer"

I see no inequality... Where are you looking??

U.S. income inequality, on rise for decades, is now highest since 1928

U.S. income inequality, on rise for decades, is now highest since 1928



Harder for Americans to Rise From Lower Rungs


Benjamin Franklin did it. Henry Ford did it. And American life is built on the faith that others can do it, too: rise from humble origins to economic heights. “Movin’ on up,” George Jefferson-style, is not only a sitcom song but a civil religion.

But many researchers have reached a conclusion that turns conventional wisdom on its head: Americans enjoy less economic mobility than their peers in Canada and much of Western Europe. The mobility gap has been widely discussed in academic circles, but a sour season of mass unemployment and street protests has moved the discussion toward center stage.


Former Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, a Republican candidate for president, warned this fall that movement “up into the middle income is actually greater, the mobility in Europe, than it is in America.”


National Review, a conservative thought leader, wrote that “most Western European and English-speaking nations have higher rates of mobility.”

Even Representative Paul D. Ryan, a Wisconsin Republican who argues that overall mobility remains high, recently wrote that “mobility from the very bottom up” is “where the United States lags behind.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/us/harder-for-americans-to-rise-from-lower-rungs.html?_r=0

My dad never made a lot but he saved and got 8% on what he saved. Cd's, ira's. Safe stuff that you didn't have to keep invested till 65. Maybe only tied up for a year or 3 years. Anyways, the poor who do save are getting fucked right now with interest rates down.

This doesn't affect the rich as much. Another way they've fucked us.

They don't try to screw anyone....they just accumulate.

And big government helps them along the way.

The way I see it....people need to get off the idea that these guys somehow do good things.

They don't do bad...but they don't help anyone they don't have to.

We need to allow others to compete with them.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Just like the haves here in America have a completely different opinion than the have nots.

I'm sure a rich communist would defend communism.

But the facts are, the "have nots" in America, are actually the Haves. Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world.

You do realize that if you have an income of just $32,000 a year, you are the top 1% of wage earners in the world?

The fact is the majority of the planet, can only DREAM of the standard of living, that our poorest people have.

"Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world."


You KNOW CONservative economic policys are a failure when you MUST compare it to 3rd world nations, lol

In one breath conservatives argue how good poor Americans got it then say IF America sucks for the poor and middle class policies that ruined it.

I can just hear all the twisted spin on unions ruining America.

If it weren't for liberals there would never have been the middle class the new deal created.

God Republicans are stupid. The create NAFTA then send all those jobs to India China and mexico because they wanted to max profits. Union or not they didn't want to pay high American wages. They think Walmart wages are what uneducated masses should make. Not Ford or gm wages. Do away with those jobs and unions and Toyota and Honda workers would make Walmart wages.

Right to work states are better...

Honda and Toyota should pay their factory workers Walmart wages, right? They didn't go to college.

College doesn't matter. A person is only worth as much money as the next person willing to do the same job.

If you re making less than satisfactory money at your job, that's not your employers fault--it's yours. It's up to you to make yourself worth more money by either learning a trade or obtaining a skill set.

 

[Dad2three]

Dad, Obama was the one to use tax dollars to pay back HIS supporters when these companies went bankrupt, which was during his presidency. Nice try...

U.S. Expects $5 Billion From Program That Funded Solyndra


The U.S. government expects to earn $5 billion to $6 billion from the renewable-energy loan program that funded flops including Solyndra LLC, supporting President Barack Obama’s decision to back low-carbon technologies.

...The results contradict the widely held view that the U.S. has wasted taxpayer money funding failures including Solyndra, which closed its doors in 2011 after receiving $528 million in government backing. That adds to Obama’s credibility as he seeks to make climate change a bigger priority after announcing a historic emissions deal with China.


A $5 billion return to taxpayers exceeds the returns from many venture capital and private equity investments in clean energy, said Michael Morosi, an analyst at Jetstream Capital LLC, which invests in renewable energy.

U.S. Expects $5 Billion From Program That Funded Solyndra

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Just like the haves here in America have a completely different opinion than the have nots.

I'm sure a rich communist would defend communism.

But the facts are, the "have nots" in America, are actually the Haves. Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world.

You do realize that if you have an income of just $32,000 a year, you are the top 1% of wage earners in the world?

The fact is the majority of the planet, can only DREAM of the standard of living, that our poorest people have.

"Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world."


You KNOW CONservative economic policys are a failure when you MUST compare it to 3rd world nations, lol

In one breath conservatives argue how good poor Americans got it then say IF America sucks for the poor and middle class policies that ruined it.

I can just hear all the twisted spin on unions ruining America.

If it weren't for liberals there would never have been the middle class the new deal created.

God Republicans are stupid. The create NAFTA then send all those jobs to India China and mexico because they wanted to max profits. Union or not they didn't want to pay high American wages. They think Walmart wages are what uneducated masses should make. Not Ford or gm wages. Do away with those jobs and unions and Toyota and Honda workers would make Walmart wages.

Well if that's the way you feel, why not open up your own company?

You can pay your floor sweepers $50,000 per year plus great benefits. You can pay your shelf stockers $35,000 per year plus three months vacation. Pay your parts inspectors $40,000 per year plus benefits.

Of course you will be out of business in no time at all, but what the hell, at least you provided good paying jobs that a monkey can do for a few short months until you go broke.

Or the CEO can go back to making 30 x what the employees make instead of 500% like the do know. Unions might have to come back. NAFTA may need to be renegotiated. We did just fine before NAFTA and bushanomics excellerated.

A company pays an employee based on what they make for the company.

If a CEO is making 6 million a year, it's because he or she is bringing in 15 million a year for the company. In many cases, a CEO is worth the money they make because of their past history.

Now if you think CEO's are making too much money, why don't you become a CEO yourself?

You people on the left never criticize what sports figures make, what Hollywood or various other entertainment figures make, only business people. Why?

The past year I started to watch the show the Big Bang theory. I caught up on all the past episodes and got interested in the cast. So I went to Wiki to read up on the actors.

I found out that each one of them make over a million dollars per episode. Without commercials, an episode is about 20 minutes of work if you can actually call it work. What makes them worth so much money to do so little work?

But, no complaints from the left.

 

[sealybobo]

But the facts are, the "have nots" in America, are actually the Haves. Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world.

You do realize that if you have an income of just $32,000 a year, you are the top 1% of wage earners in the world?

The fact is the majority of the planet, can only DREAM of the standard of living, that our poorest people have.

"Most of the poorest people in America, have a luxury standard of living compared to the rest of the world."


You KNOW CONservative economic policys are a failure when you MUST compare it to 3rd world nations, lol

In one breath conservatives argue how good poor Americans got it then say IF America sucks for the poor and middle class policies that ruined it.

I can just hear all the twisted spin on unions ruining America.

If it weren't for liberals there would never have been the middle class the new deal created.

God Republicans are stupid. The create NAFTA then send all those jobs to India China and mexico because they wanted to max profits. Union or not they didn't want to pay high American wages. They think Walmart wages are what uneducated masses should make. Not Ford or gm wages. Do away with those jobs and unions and Toyota and Honda workers would make Walmart wages.

Well if that's the way you feel, why not open up your own company?

You can pay your floor sweepers $50,000 per year plus great benefits. You can pay your shelf stockers $35,000 per year plus three months vacation. Pay your parts inspectors $40,000 per year plus benefits.

Of course you will be out of business in no time at all, but what the hell, at least you provided good paying jobs that a monkey can do for a few short months until you go broke.

Or the CEO can go back to making 30 x what the employees make instead of 500% like the do know. Unions might have to come back. NAFTA may need to be renegotiated. We did just fine before NAFTA and bushanomics excellerated.

A company pays an employee based on what they make for the company.

If a CEO is making 6 million a year, it's because he or she is bringing in 15 million a year for the company. In many cases, a CEO is worth the money they make because of their past history.

Now if you think CEO's are making too much money, why don't you become a CEO yourself?

You people on the left never criticize what sports figures make, what Hollywood or various other entertainment figures make, only business people. Why?

The past year I started to watch the show the Big Bang theory. I caught up on all the past episodes and got interested in the cast. So I went to Wiki to read up on the actors.

I found out that each one of them make over a million dollars per episode. Without commercials, an episode is about 20 minutes of work if you can actually call it work. What makes them worth so much money to do so little work?

But, no complaints from the left.

My VP bro says you're wrong. If the unions were gone Toyota and Honda would only pay Walmart wages.

 

[Flash]

As a right winger I don't really defend the wealthy too much.

However, I just don't want to use the filthy ass government to steal from them to give the money to me, unlike the greedy Left.

Unlike the greedy and envious Left I do not feel that I am entitled to the wealth simply because I am alive and they have it and I don't.