Why do you wish to live in the 18th and 19th centurys?

It just proves me right as a farm life that would provide food for you and your family are the closes you're going to come to liberterianism. I don't like it.

The few people that wish to live in towns or cities aren't going to like it as life will be very poor and inferior to your farm.

I aint the crazy one in this thread.
 
Why do you wish to take us back to the 19th century? Life was much harder, people had lower quality of life and America was no where near the power we're currently...Without government regs, laws and investment this is exactly where we're going.

They like it better when men could beat women and children could be forced to work 12 hours a day. Among a hundred other heinous things.
No paved roads, rum used as an anesthetic and white slave holders demanding freedom.

Imagine that, no anestegia during the Civil War. They just cut your leg off while you listened to the saw and felt in your leg. White slave holders demanding freedom, one of those karmatic anti-matter matters.

Good times indeed.

C'mon pud, you said elsewhere that a "Civil Ear" is coming.
SHOOT someone and star the Revolution punk, c'mon.....or are you just one more all talk an no action pussy?
 
Why do you wish to take us back to the 19th century? Life was much harder, people had lower quality of life and America was no where near the power we're currently...Without government regs, laws and investment this is exactly where we're going.

They like it better when men could beat women and children could be forced to work 12 hours a day. Among a hundred other heinous things.
No paved roads, rum used as an anesthetic and white slave holders demanding freedom.

Imagine that, no anestegia during the Civil War. They just cut your leg off while you listened to the saw and felt in your leg. White slave holders demanding freedom, one of those karmatic anti-matter matters.

Good times indeed.

C'mon pud, you said elsewhere that a "Civil Ear" is coming.
SHOOT someone and star the Revolution punk, c'mon.....or are you just one more all talk an no action pussy?

Change you diaper and have some warm milk cupcake. Your grandpa will 'pertect' you. LOL

And go back to churning butter and watching the grass grow, or as it is known to conservative 'going to university'.
 
Why do you wish to take us back to the 19th century? Life was much harder, people had lower quality of life and America was no where near the power we're currently...Without government regs, laws and investment this is exactly where we're going.

They like it better when men could beat women and children could be forced to work 12 hours a day. Among a hundred other heinous things.
No paved roads, rum used as an anesthetic and white slave holders demanding freedom.

Imagine that, no anestegia during the Civil War. They just cut your leg off while you listened to the saw and felt in your leg. White slave holders demanding freedom, one of those karmatic anti-matter matters.

Good times indeed.

C'mon pud, you said elsewhere that a "Civil Ear" is coming.
SHOOT someone and star the Revolution punk, c'mon.....or are you just one more all talk an no action pussy?

Change you diaper and have some warm milk cupcake. Your grandpa will 'pertect' you. LOL

And go back to churning butter and watching the grass grow, or as it is known to conservative 'going to university'.

Then pick up a weapon and stand a post asshole, oh wait you didn't mean YOU'D fight a "Civil War", you meant someone ELSE would.
C'mon Punk.......put up or shut up. Start the war kid.
 
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Why do you wish to take us back to the 19th century? Life was much harder, people had lower quality of life and America was no where near the power we're currently...Without government regs, laws and investment this is exactly where we're going.

They like it better when men could beat women and children could be forced to work 12 hours a day. Among a hundred other heinous things.
No paved roads, rum used as an anesthetic and white slave holders demanding freedom.

Imagine that, no anestegia during the Civil War. They just cut your leg off while you listened to the saw and felt in your leg. White slave holders demanding freedom, one of those karmatic anti-matter matters.

Good times indeed.

C'mon pud, you said elsewhere that a "Civil Ear" is coming.
SHOOT someone and star the Revolution punk, c'mon.....or are you just one more all talk an no action pussy?

Change you diaper and have some warm milk cupcake. Your grandpa will 'pertect' you. LOL

And go back to churning butter and watching the grass grow, or as it is known to conservative 'going to university'.


You couldn't hold a red necks tool belt snowflake...
 
Poor Matie-poo just contain his foaming at the mouth anger.

The very flower of progressive aggression, envy, and covetousness. :lmao:
 
Why do you wish to take us back to the 19th century? Life was much harder, people had lower quality of life and America was no where near the power we're currently...Without government regs, laws and investment this is exactly where we're going.

An honest assessment of the libertarian position has nothing to due with regression and everything to do with freedom. You are making disingenuous comparisons. What you are missing is that the more free markets during the great American experiment of the 19th and early 20th century didn't create the lower quality of life relative to today, it created the environment required to produce the modernity we enjoy today. An honest comparison would be against the world at the time, a period during which the poor were better educated and better off than the rest of the world. We invented the concept of a commoner becoming rich. We built a system where the status of your father need not be that of the son. Despite having a tiny portion of the population, we built the strongest nation the world have ever known.

OF COURSE we're better off today! The benefits of today's technological advancements cannot honestly be compared the status of life hundreds of year ago.
 
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Why do you wish to take us back to the 19th century? Life was much harder, people had lower quality of life and America was no where near the power we're currently...Without government regs, laws and investment this is exactly where we're going.
Life didn't improve because of liberalism. It improved because of capitalism - the system liberals have been trying to destroy for the last 100 years.
 
Whoever said they want to live in the 18th or 19th century?

I would have of course had an affair with Lord Byron, a beautiful creature who appeals to my decadent side. I would have decamped to Ravenna where he wrote the first five Cantos of "Don Juan"

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"Don Juan" is much too lengthy to post (sixteen Cantos completed)

"Childe Harold's Pilgrimage" is in four Cantos, so I've chosen this instead.

"Childe Harold's Pilgrimage" (1812-1818)

I

Oh, thou! in Hellas deem'd of heavenly birth,
Muse! form'd or fabled at the minstrel's will!
Since shamed full oft by later lyres on earth,
Mine dares not call thee from thy sacred hill:
Yet there I've wander'd by thy vaunted rill;
Yes! sigh'd o'er Delphi's long deserted shrine,
Where, save that feeble fountain, all is still;
Nor mote my shell awake the weary Nine
To grace so plain a tale -- this lowly lay of mine.

II

Whilome in Albion's isle there dwelt a youth,
Who ne in virtue's ways did take delight;
But spent his days in riot most uncouth,
And vex'd with mirth the drowsy ear of Night.
Oh, me! in sooth he was a shameless wight,
Sore given to revel and ungodly glee;
Few earthly things found favour in his sight
Save concubines and carnal companie,
And flaunting wassailers of high and low degree.

III

Childe Harold was he hight: -- but whence his name
And lineage long, it suits me not to say;
Suffice it, that perchance they were of fame,
And had been glorious in another day;
But one sad losel soils a name for aye,
However mighty in the olden time;
Nor all that heralds rake from coffin'd clay,
Nor florid prose, nor honied lies of rhyme,
Can blazon evil deeds or consecrate a crime.

IV

Childe Harold bask'd him in the noontide sun,
Disporting there like any other fly,
Nor deem'd before his little day was done
One blast might chill him into misery.
But long ere scarce a third of his pass'd by.
Worse than adversity the Childe befell;
He felt the fulness of satiety:
Then loathed he in his native land to dwell,
Which seem'd to him more lone than Eremite's sad cell.

V

For he through Sin's long labyrinth had run,
Nor made atonement when he did amiss,
Had sigh'd to many though he loved but one,
And that loved one, alas! could ne'er be his.
Ah, happy she! to 'scape from him whose kiss
Had been pollution unto aught so chaste;
Who soon had left her charms for vulgar bliss,
And spoil'd her goodly lands to gild his waste,
Nor calm domestic peace had ever deign'd to taste.

VI

And now Childe Harold was sore sick at heart,
And from his fellow bacchanals would flee;
'Tis said, at times the sullen tear would start,
But Pride congeal'd the drop within his ee;
Apart he stalk'd in joyless reverie,
And from his native land resolv'd to go,
And visit scorching climes beyond the sea;
With pleasure drugg'd, he almost long'd for woe,
And e'en for change of scene would seek the shades below.

Childe Harold's Pilgrimage -- Canto I

Edited to add content.
 
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