Why Do Whites Think They Can Tell Us What The Problems in Black America Are?

[justoffal]

Because Black folks blame White folks for all their problems, so it's White folks responsibility to fix u'alls problems,

Beat me to it

 

[IM2]

Beat me to it

We look at 2 and one half centuries of laws and policies made by whites and conclude accurately that those decisions were harmful to us.

Stay delusional pretending that such things have no impact on today.

 

[justoffal]

We look at 2 and one half centuries of laws and policies made by whites and conclude accurately that those decisions were harmful to us.

Stay delusional pretending that such things have no impact on today.

Everyone has a cross to carry dude blacks are not by themselves in that category. Not all white people are the same either it's very racist for you to paint an entire race of people as bigots based on a small percentage of those who actually were. That would be like me judging you based on Farrakhan's viewpoint of white people.

 

[presonorek]

I am speaking for black people right now. Whites have been given preferential treatment and government handouts since this country began. The facts I presented here speak for themselves because your white ass damn sure don't speak for blacks or know anybody black who has seriously engaged you on the issue of race.

So if you don't like my exercising my first amendment right as an American citizsn, move your ass back to Europe. Because we're way past slavery here white boy and the standard klan retort about Africans enslaving us gets no play.

This is 2021. You can identify as whatever you want. Start identifying as white. Bam! You instantly get all the luxurious benefits of white privilege such as:

-Road and Highway access
-Access to the courts
-Mail delivery to your home
-Guaranteed emergency medical care
-Safe schools and basic education (k-12)
-Credit monitoring from Equifax

The list goes on and on. It doesn’t sound like much but some of the things white people have is so much better than what the black folks have. Talk to your lawyer. I think anybody willing to identify is white has the right to all white privileges. That’s pretty much how I understand the law.

 

[MizMolly]

I mean really? What in the hell makes a group of people with a history of enslavement , genocide and apartheid in order to achieve what they have belive they have been so sucessful that they can lecture others. Without enslavement, genocide and aparthied, whites in America would have very little, if anything.

People in this forum have the opinion that blacks should do things like whites and if we do so, we can make it in America. So then what we need to do is orchestate a bloody coup, confiscate all property owned by whites, jail all whites who oppose the coup, write a new constitution that declare citizenship and it's protection only for non whites, make whites chattel for the forseeable future, make it illegal for whites to reald, own property or access information and create laws where if whites get out of line they can be beaten and killed.

Because this is how whites have done it.

In another forum, I stated that the root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. One of the whites there decided to say this:

“The root cause of the problems faced by most blacks today are people like you who misidentify or ignore the real problems they face to further their own personal agendas.”

This is another of the long, long line of idiotic comments made by right wing whites. White racism was determined to be the problem 53 years ago by the Kerner Commission.

"What white Americans have never fully understood but what the Negro can never forget--is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto. White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it, and white society condones it."

"White racism is essentially responsible for the explosive mixture which has been accumulating in our cities since the end of World War II."

But the excuse will be made about how that was 50 years ago, and that stupid ass song will be sung titled, "That was in the Past."

On February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission findings, the Economic Policy Institute published a report evaluating the progress of the black community since the Kerner Report was released. It was based on a study done by the Economic Policy Institute that compared the progress of the black community in 2018 with the condition of the black community at the time of the Kerner Commission. Titled “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” the study concluded that there had been some improvements in the situation blacks faced but there were still disadvantages blacks faced that were based on race.

Following up on this, Richard Rothstein of the Economic Policy Institute wrote an op-ed published in the February 28th edition of the New York Daily News titled, “50 years after the Kerner Commission, minimal racial progress.” It had been 50 years since the commission made their recommendations at that point, yet Rothstein makes this statement: “So little has changed since 1968 that the report remains worth reading as a near-contemporary description of racial inequality.”

So 3 years ago the same conclusion was made. "The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism."

On October 24, 2013, the Kellogg Foundation sent out a press release about a report they had done entitled, “The Business Case for Racial Equity”. This was a study done by the Kellogg Foundation, using information it had studied and assessed from the Center for American Progress, National Urban League Policy Institute, Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies and the U.S. Department of Justice.

“Striving for racial equity – a world where race is no longer a factor in the distribution of opportunity – is a matter of social justice. But moving toward racial equity can generate significant economic returns as well. When people face barriers to achieving their full potential, the loss of talent, creativity, energy, and productivity is a burden not only for those disadvantaged, but for communities, businesses, governments, and the economy as a whole. Initial research on the magnitude of this burden in the United States (U.S.), as highlighted in this brief, reveals impacts in the trillions of dollars in lost earnings, avoidable public expenditures, and lost economic output.”

The Kellogg Foundation and Altarum Institute

In 2011, DEMOS did a study named “The Racial Wealth Gap, Why Policy Matters”, which discussed the racial wealth gap, the problems associated with it along with solutions and outcomes if the gap did not exist. In this study DEMOS determined that the racial wealth gap was primarily driven by policy decisions.

“The U.S. racial wealth gap is substantial and is driven by public policy decisions. According to our analysis of the SIPP data, in 2011 the median white household had $111,146 in wealth holdings, compared to just $7,113 for the median Black household and $8,348 for the median Latino household. From the continuing impact of redlining on American homeownership to the retreat from desegregation in public education, public policy has shaped these disparities, leaving them impossible to overcome without racially-aware policy change.”

Harvard.

“Racial inequality in the United States today may, ultimately, be based on slavery, but it is also based on the failure of the country to take effective steps since slavery to undermine the structural racial inequality that slavery put in place. From the latter part of the nineteenth century through the first half of the twentieth century, the Jim Crow system continued to keep Blacks “in their place,” and even during and after the civil rights era no policies were adopted to dismantle the racial hierarchy that already existed.”

HOUSING DISCRIMINATION AS A BASIS FOR BLACK REPARATIONS, Jonathan Kaplan and Andrew Valls, Public Affairs Quarterly

Volume 21, Number 3, July 2007

McKinsey and Co.

“It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm.”

Citigroup

Cost Of Racism: U.S. Economy Lost $16 Trillion Because Of Discrimination, Bank Says

Nationwide protests have cast a spotlight on racism and inequality in the United States. Now a major bank has put a price tag on how much the economy has lost as a result of discrimination against African Americans: $16 trillion.

Since 2000, U.S. gross domestic product lost that much as a result of discriminatory practices in a range of areas, including in education and access to business loans, according to a new study by Citigroup.

Specifically, the study came up with $16 trillion in lost GDP by noting four key racial gaps between African Americans and whites:

$13 trillion lost in potential business revenue because of discriminatory lending to African American entrepreneurs, with an estimated 6.1 million jobs not generated as a result

$2.7 trillion in income lost because of disparities in wages suffered by African Americans

$218 billion lost over the past two decades because of discrimination in providing housing credit

And $90 billion to $113 billion in lifetime income lost from discrimination in accessing higher education

Why this is just a bunch of liberal jibberish to to blacks in order to keep them voting democrat. Those aren't the problems, what we conservatives tell you is the real problem. Why if you just had a father in the home none of this would happen.

Black Workers Still Earn Less than Their White Counterparts

As employers in the U.S. tackle issues around racism, fresh attention is being given to the racial wage gap and why black men and women, in particular, still earn substantially less than their white counterparts. Nearly 56 years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, "we find equal pay for equal work is still not a reality," noted Jackson Gruver, a data analyst at compensation data and software firm PayScale.

Last year, PayScale analyzed differences in earnings between white men and men of color using data from a sample of 1.8 million employees surveyed between January 2017 and February 2019.

Among the findings, Gruver reported: "Even as black or African-American men climb the corporate ladder, they still make less than equally qualified white men. They are the only racial/ethnic group that does not achieve pay parity with white men at some level."

The study found that black men had the largest "uncontrolled pay gap" relative to white men, when comparing the average earnings of black men and white men in the U.S.

On average, black men earned 87 cents for every dollar a white man earned. Hispanic workers had the next largest gap, earning 91 cents for every dollar earned by white men.

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To put that in perspective, the median salary of a white man in our sample is $72,900; the controlled median pay for black or African-American men is thus $71,500," Gruver said. "This suggests a $1,400 difference in pay that is likely attributable to race."

So daddy lives at home and the family still makes less than whites. Because:

NWLC calculations, based on the U.S. Census Bureau's Current Population Survey for 2016, revealed that when comparing all men and women who work full time, year-round in the U.S., women were paid just 80 cents for every dollar paid to their male counterparts. But the wage gap was even larger when looking specifically at black women who work full time, year-round—they were paid only 63 cents for every dollar paid to white, non-Hispanic men.

Stephen Miller, Black Workers Still Earn Less than Their White Counterparts, www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/compensation/pages/racial-wage-gaps-persistence-poses-challenge.aspx

So a white working couple will make 90 cents on every dollar while a black working couple makes 75 cents. To allow you to understand this reality a white female worker makes 80 cents on every dollar a white man makes. White females are demanding equal pay and rightfully so.

And you black folk really need to start taking education seriously.

Black unemployment is significantly higher than white unemployment regardless of educational attainment

The black unemployment rate is nearly or more than twice the white unemployment rate regardless of educational attainment. It is, and always has been, about twice the white unemployment rate; however, the depth of this racial inequality in the labor market rarely makes the headlines.

Over the last 12 months, the average unemployment rate for black college graduates has been 4.1 percent—nearly two times the average unemployment rate for white college graduates (2.4 percent) and equivalent to the unemployment rate of whites with an associate’s degree or who have not completed college (4.0 percent). The largest disparity is seen among those with less than a high school diploma: while whites with less than a high school diploma have an unemployment rate of 6.9 percent, the black unemployment rate is 16.6 percent—over two times the white average.

The broader significance of this disparity suggests a race penalty whereby blacks at each level of education have unemployment rates that are the same as or higher than less educated whites.

Valerie Wilson, Black unemployment is significantly higher than white unemployment regardless of educational attainment, www.epi.org/publication/black-unemployment-educational-attainment/

African Americans are paid less than whites at every education level

While the economy continues to improve and wages are finally beginning to inch up for most Americans, African Americans are still being paid less than whites at every education level. As you can see from the chart below, while a college education results in higher wages—both for whites and blacks—it does not eliminate the black-white wage gap. African Americans are still earning less than whites at every level of educational attainment. A recent EPI report, Black-white wage gaps expand with rising wage inequality, shows that this gap persists even after controlling for years of experience, region of the country, and whether one lives in an urban or rural area. In fact, since 1979, the gaps between black and white workers have grown the most among workers with a bachelor’s degree or higher—the most educated workers.

Valerie Wilson, African Americans are paid less than whites at every education level, www.epi.org/publication/african-americans-are-paid-less-than-whites-at-every-education-level/

But to say white racism is the cause of things no matter how much proof we show your white asses, you have some kind of idiotic ass excuse, like we are blaming whites for our failures or;

We misdiagnose and ignore the "real" problem to fit an imaginary agenda racists in tha white community invented so they can deny how THEY are the root cause of the problem.

You right wing scrubs are always talking about responsibility.

Take some instead of running your mouths.

There is no group of white people who do what you say in your first paragraph. SOME whites people in the PAST did those things. You once again are grouping white people today with whites in history. Since not all whites were involved, whites don’t have that history.

 

[MizMolly]

Whites have recieved affirmative action since the country started.

ALL RISE!

Tonights Lesson:

White Immigrants Did Not Own Slaves But...

As blacks went north they found that the only difference between a southern white and a northern one was geography. When blacks went north, so did lynchings. They are recorded as race riots, but the reality is that there were a series of massacres, bombings, lynchings and other acts of terror against blacks by whites due to the northern migration of blacks trying to escape massacres, bombings, lynchings and other acts of terror against blacks by whites in the south. Historians call what happened riots and this is why it’s so hilarious to listen to the disingenuous fake outrage of the racist white subculture about blacks and riots today.

On the evening of Saturday July 19th, 1919, in Washington D.C., a group of white veterans started a rumor about a black man suspected of sexually assaulting the wife of a white Navy man. This rumor spread throughout the bars and restaurants in downtown Washington D.C. Later that night, a mob of drunken mad white men headed to a predominantly black neighborhood carrying weapons. Those mad white men proceeded to beat all the blacks they found. They snatched blacks out of their cars or off sidewalks and beat them for no reason. Where were the police? I think they had donut shops back then, but I am not sure. The violence continued into Sunday because the D.C. Metro Police failed to stop it. Random blacks got beat down on the streets of Washington. This happened even in front of the White House.

The Omaha Race Riot occurred on September 28–29, 1919. Three conditions: black property acquisition, economic anxiety and claims of black male sexual aggression, have been the general standard for white violence against blacks throughout American history. The Omaha Riots met at least 2 of the 3 conditions. The lynching of Will Brown was started by reports in local media about the alleged rape of a woman on September 25, 1919. The following day the police arrested Brown. Brown was blamed for the rape without the victim making a positive identification. There was an attempt to lynch Brown on the day of his arrest, but it failed.

The Omaha Bee publicized the incident claiming it was part of a series of alleged attacks on white women by black men in Omaha. The Bee was controlled by Thomas Rosewater who was a friends with a man named Thomas Dennison. Dennison ran a political machine that controlled Omaha. To be blunt, Dennison was a crook. He controlled Omaha for 18 years before the city elected a non-Dennison flunky for mayor named Edward Smith. So to make Smith look bad, Dennisons men ran amuck throughout the town wearing blackface while assaulting women then blaming blacks for it. These incidents were orchestrated by Dennison and Rosewaters paper pumped up the fake news. So thanks to his buddy at the Omaha Bee, Dennison and his friends race baited the people of Omaha and incited the Omaha Riots. On the night of the lynching, Omaha Police even caught one of Dennisons men wearing blackface. Dennison nor any of his associates were charged or convicted for what they did. Will Brown was not so fortunate. Brown was lynched, shot up after he was dead, dragged through the streets of Omaha and set on fire. He had committed no crime.

White mob violence did not end in 1919. One of the worst acts of domestic terrorism in America happened in two days of American history beginning on May 31st, 1921 in Tulsa Oklahoma. This is better known as “The Tulsa Massacre.” One may as well say this was an act of war waged on the black citizens of Tulsa Oklahoma by white citizens. I say this because not only were blacks attacked on the ground they were attacked by air. In a manner best described by the scene of Ben Richards being told to shoot the people during a food riot in “The Running Man”, whites in private planes flew over the black community shooting down on blacks and firebombing black homes and businesses.

“I could see planes circling in mid-air. They grew in number and hummed, darted and dipped low. I could hear something like hail falling upon the top of my office building. Down East Archer, I saw the old Mid-Way hotel on fire, burning from its top, and then another and another and another building began to burn from their top,”

B.C. Franklin​

The excuse by city law enforcement officials was that the planes were reconnaissance used to protect against a Negro uprising. Still today, an accurate accounting of the number of dead varies. More than 6,000 people were either admitted to hospitals or sent to other large facilities for care. More than 10,000 blacks were left homeless. The bombings and ground attacks destroyed 35 city blocks of Tulsa, resulting in damages that equaled over 32 million dollars in today’s money. None of the victims or their descendants have been compensated for this act of terror to this day. Pretty soon blacks in Tulsa will have to hear that sad, sorry song that starts with, “I was not alive then.”

I just don’t think people really understand just exactly how bad things have been for blacks when they start trying to blame blacks for the slave trade or slave ownsership. I am waiting for the day somebody white tries to say that blacks created the black codes, sundown towns and Jim Crow. This is the state of the madness here in America at this time. Whites have complained about political correctness and yet when political incorrectness is applied to them, suddenly things must be forgotten, revised, altered or kept quiet.

On December 23, 1945, Mr. and Mrs. H. O’Day Short and their 2 small children were burned to death in Fontana California. The description of this was; “A fire of incendiary origions set by persons who did not want them to move into the white community.”37 Before they were murdered the family was threatened and got no protection from the police. According to the report, the Shorts had no electricity and was using gas lamps at the time they moved in. This was supposed to be temporary. While the Shorts were out of the house, people broke in, sprayed the house with a flammable chemical and when the Shorts got home and started lighting their lamps, the house went up in flames.38

On August 6, 1948, 6 young black men were convicted of murder and were given the death sentence in Trenton New Jersey. The witness accounts stated that the killers were “two or three white or light-skinned Negro teenagers.”39 But the police rounded up 6 black men in their 20’s and 30’s. Only 1 was light skinned.40 Four of the men had solid alibis.41 They were held in secret without warrants, interrogated for days and drugged into confessing.42 The doctor who examined them for the police claimed they were not coerced.43 That doctor was eventually convicted of perjury.44 He got off with a fine and probation.45 The trial was a sham and the men were sent off to die. But unlike similar cases this during this time period, some of these young men got saved.

Bessie Mitchell, the sister of one of the six men wrote everybody she could asking for help because she knew her brother was innocent. She contacted the ACLU and NAACP, no help. The NAACP said they did not do murder cases, the ACLU could not find any racism in the case. But in what can only be described as an act of God, Mitchell found a piece of paper in the gutter about the Civil Right Congress.46 The Civil Right Congress was a communist organization but Mitchell was out of options. So she contacted them and they took the case.

With the help of a communist organization, Bessie Mitchell was able to bring the necessary attention to the plight of the Trenton 6. Celebrities joined the cause and eventually the NAACP as well as the ACLU joined forces with the Civil Right Congress to save 4 of the 6 men.47 My point here is not to denigrate The Civil Right Congress for it’s communist political views but to provide an example of where so-called American democracy and it’s claim to the rule of law has failed blacks and in fact all people of color.

For the first 5 years after WW2 in Chicago alone, there were 357 acts of terror by whites against blacks who tried living in or near majority white neighborhoods.48 In 1951 a black man named Harvey Clark and his family tried to move into the Cicero neighborhood of Chicago. A white mob vandalized his home and burned his furniture in the front yard. Aside from trying to force Clark out of his own home, the police did nothing.47 In first six months of 1955 there were 213 acts of violence against blacks by whites is Philadelphia.48 These were acts of terror committed to intimidate blacks so they would not move into white communities.

In 1964 when blacks again tried renting an apartment in Cicero, their apartment was again vandalized. After the apartment was vandalized, police entered the apartment, took out the furniture and told the renters they had been evicted.49 At the same time period in Detroit, there were over 200 acts of violence against blacks by whites to terrorize black families so they would not move to the suburbs.50 From 1950-1965 there were over 100 bombings of black owned residences in Los Angeles.51 In 1987, another black family tried moving into Cicero. Whites responded with gunfire and firebombs.52

This kind of terrorism has gone long ignored in understanding the brutality and long-lasting effects of such acts upon blacks in America. For decades prosperous blacks were terrorized while black communities were destroyed by mobs of angry whites who felt they were losing out because blacks had acquired the same things whites had. Ignored was the fact that blacks worked hard to get what they had, but that did not matter because blacks were to always be lesser than whites and the caste was to be created and maintained by any means necessary.

Blacks peacefully moved north to compete for same opportunities white immigrants had and this is just a small bit of what happened. White immigrants are the ones who committed the violence against blacks. White immigrants destroyed thriving black communities. The same white immigrants whose descendants will tell you today how they are not responsible because their ancestors did not own slaves. So why couldn’t blacks raise themselves up by their bootstraps just like everyone

Whites have recieved affirmative action since the country started.

ALL RISE!

Tonights Lesson:

White Immigrants Did Not Own Slaves But...

As blacks went north they found that the only difference between a southern white and a northern one was geography. When blacks went north, so did lynchings. They are recorded as race riots, but the reality is that there were a series of massacres, bombings, lynchings and other acts of terror against blacks by whites due to the northern migration of blacks trying to escape massacres, bombings, lynchings and other acts of terror against blacks by whites in the south. Historians call what happened riots and this is why it’s so hilarious to listen to the disingenuous fake outrage of the racist white subculture about blacks and riots today.

On the evening of Saturday July 19th, 1919, in Washington D.C., a group of white veterans started a rumor about a black man suspected of sexually assaulting the wife of a white Navy man. This rumor spread throughout the bars and restaurants in downtown Washington D.C. Later that night, a mob of drunken mad white men headed to a predominantly black neighborhood carrying weapons. Those mad white men proceeded to beat all the blacks they found. They snatched blacks out of their cars or off sidewalks and beat them for no reason. Where were the police? I think they had donut shops back then, but I am not sure. The violence continued into Sunday because the D.C. Metro Police failed to stop it. Random blacks got beat down on the streets of Washington. This happened even in front of the White House.

The Omaha Race Riot occurred on September 28–29, 1919. Three conditions: black property acquisition, economic anxiety and claims of black male sexual aggression, have been the general standard for white violence against blacks throughout American history. The Omaha Riots met at least 2 of the 3 conditions. The lynching of Will Brown was started by reports in local media about the alleged rape of a woman on September 25, 1919. The following day the police arrested Brown. Brown was blamed for the rape without the victim making a positive identification. There was an attempt to lynch Brown on the day of his arrest, but it failed.

The Omaha Bee publicized the incident claiming it was part of a series of alleged attacks on white women by black men in Omaha. The Bee was controlled by Thomas Rosewater who was a friends with a man named Thomas Dennison. Dennison ran a political machine that controlled Omaha. To be blunt, Dennison was a crook. He controlled Omaha for 18 years before the city elected a non-Dennison flunky for mayor named Edward Smith. So to make Smith look bad, Dennisons men ran amuck throughout the town wearing blackface while assaulting women then blaming blacks for it. These incidents were orchestrated by Dennison and Rosewaters paper pumped up the fake news. So thanks to his buddy at the Omaha Bee, Dennison and his friends race baited the people of Omaha and incited the Omaha Riots. On the night of the lynching, Omaha Police even caught one of Dennisons men wearing blackface. Dennison nor any of his associates were charged or convicted for what they did. Will Brown was not so fortunate. Brown was lynched, shot up after he was dead, dragged through the streets of Omaha and set on fire. He had committed no crime.

White mob violence did not end in 1919. One of the worst acts of domestic terrorism in America happened in two days of American history beginning on May 31st, 1921 in Tulsa Oklahoma. This is better known as “The Tulsa Massacre.” One may as well say this was an act of war waged on the black citizens of Tulsa Oklahoma by white citizens. I say this because not only were blacks attacked on the ground they were attacked by air. In a manner best described by the scene of Ben Richards being told to shoot the people during a food riot in “The Running Man”, whites in private planes flew over the black community shooting down on blacks and firebombing black homes and businesses.

“I could see planes circling in mid-air. They grew in number and hummed, darted and dipped low. I could hear something like hail falling upon the top of my office building. Down East Archer, I saw the old Mid-Way hotel on fire, burning from its top, and then another and another and another building began to burn from their top,”

B.C. Franklin​

The excuse by city law enforcement officials was that the planes were reconnaissance used to protect against a Negro uprising. Still today, an accurate accounting of the number of dead varies. More than 6,000 people were either admitted to hospitals or sent to other large facilities for care. More than 10,000 blacks were left homeless. The bombings and ground attacks destroyed 35 city blocks of Tulsa, resulting in damages that equaled over 32 million dollars in today’s money. None of the victims or their descendants have been compensated for this act of terror to this day. Pretty soon blacks in Tulsa will have to hear that sad, sorry song that starts with, “I was not alive then.”

I just don’t think people really understand just exactly how bad things have been for blacks when they start trying to blame blacks for the slave trade or slave ownsership. I am waiting for the day somebody white tries to say that blacks created the black codes, sundown towns and Jim Crow. This is the state of the madness here in America at this time. Whites have complained about political correctness and yet when political incorrectness is applied to them, suddenly things must be forgotten, revised, altered or kept quiet.

On December 23, 1945, Mr. and Mrs. H. O’Day Short and their 2 small children were burned to death in Fontana California. The description of this was; “A fire of incendiary origions set by persons who did not want them to move into the white community.”37 Before they were murdered the family was threatened and got no protection from the police. According to the report, the Shorts had no electricity and was using gas lamps at the time they moved in. This was supposed to be temporary. While the Shorts were out of the house, people broke in, sprayed the house with a flammable chemical and when the Shorts got home and started lighting their lamps, the house went up in flames.38

On August 6, 1948, 6 young black men were convicted of murder and were given the death sentence in Trenton New Jersey. The witness accounts stated that the killers were “two or three white or light-skinned Negro teenagers.”39 But the police rounded up 6 black men in their 20’s and 30’s. Only 1 was light skinned.40 Four of the men had solid alibis.41 They were held in secret without warrants, interrogated for days and drugged into confessing.42 The doctor who examined them for the police claimed they were not coerced.43 That doctor was eventually convicted of perjury.44 He got off with a fine and probation.45 The trial was a sham and the men were sent off to die. But unlike similar cases this during this time period, some of these young men got saved.

Bessie Mitchell, the sister of one of the six men wrote everybody she could asking for help because she knew her brother was innocent. She contacted the ACLU and NAACP, no help. The NAACP said they did not do murder cases, the ACLU could not find any racism in the case. But in what can only be described as an act of God, Mitchell found a piece of paper in the gutter about the Civil Right Congress.46 The Civil Right Congress was a communist organization but Mitchell was out of options. So she contacted them and they took the case.

With the help of a communist organization, Bessie Mitchell was able to bring the necessary attention to the plight of the Trenton 6. Celebrities joined the cause and eventually the NAACP as well as the ACLU joined forces with the Civil Right Congress to save 4 of the 6 men.47 My point here is not to denigrate The Civil Right Congress for it’s communist political views but to provide an example of where so-called American democracy and it’s claim to the rule of law has failed blacks and in fact all people of color.

For the first 5 years after WW2 in Chicago alone, there were 357 acts of terror by whites against blacks who tried living in or near majority white neighborhoods.48 In 1951 a black man named Harvey Clark and his family tried to move into the Cicero neighborhood of Chicago. A white mob vandalized his home and burned his furniture in the front yard. Aside from trying to force Clark out of his own home, the police did nothing.47 In first six months of 1955 there were 213 acts of violence against blacks by whites is Philadelphia.48 These were acts of terror committed to intimidate blacks so they would not move into white communities.

In 1964 when blacks again tried renting an apartment in Cicero, their apartment was again vandalized. After the apartment was vandalized, police entered the apartment, took out the furniture and told the renters they had been evicted.49 At the same time period in Detroit, there were over 200 acts of violence against blacks by whites to terrorize black families so they would not move to the suburbs.50 From 1950-1965 there were over 100 bombings of black owned residences in Los Angeles.51 In 1987, another black family tried moving into Cicero. Whites responded with gunfire and firebombs.52

This kind of terrorism has gone long ignored in understanding the brutality and long-lasting effects of such acts upon blacks in America. For decades prosperous blacks were terrorized while black communities were destroyed by mobs of angry whites who felt they were losing out because blacks had acquired the same things whites had. Ignored was the fact that blacks worked hard to get what they had, but that did not matter because blacks were to always be lesser than whites and the caste was to be created and maintained by any means necessary.

Blacks peacefully moved north to compete for same opportunities white immigrants had and this is just a small bit of what happened. White immigrants are the ones who committed the violence against blacks. White immigrants destroyed thriving black communities. The same white immigrants whose descendants will tell you today how they are not responsible because their ancestors did not own slaves. So why couldn’t blacks raise themselves up by their bootstraps just like everyone else?

Irrelevant to whites alive today who don’t receive preferential treatment.

 

[IM2]

Everyone has a cross to carry dude blacks are not by themselves in that category. Not all white people are the same either it's very racist for you to paint an entire race of people as bigots based on a small percentage of those who actually were. That would be like me judging you based on Farrakhan's viewpoint of white people.

The entire white race has never been painted as bigots and racist laws and policies are not people. Farrakhans views of white people are based on his 88 years of watching continuing white racism. Everybody's cross was not purposefully created by public policy. So you can just quit whining about somebody painting an entire race when they aren't and then recognize that the laws and ppolicies were made to benefit all whites whether they were racists or not. Now that's just the harsh realityy of Amerrican history.

 

[IM2]

This is 2021. You can identify as whatever you want. Start identifying as white. Bam! You instantly get all the luxurious benefits of white privilege such as:

-Road and Highway access
-Access to the courts
-Mail delivery to your home
-Guaranteed emergency medical care
-Safe schools and basic education (k-12)
-Credit monitoring from Equifax

The list goes on and on. It doesn’t sound like much but some of the things white people have is so much better than what the black folks have. Talk to your lawyer. I think anybody willing to identify is white has the right to all white privileges. That’s pretty much how I understand the law.

I have to laugh when somebody white tries this.

Turn black, live for 5 years then come talk to me.

 

[MizMolly]

The entire white race has never been painted as bigots and racist laws and policies are not people. Farrakhans views of white people are based on his 88 years of watching continuing white racism. Everybody's cross was not purposefully created by public policy. So you can just quit whining about somebody painting an entire race when they aren't and then recognize that the laws and ppolicies were made to benefit all whites whether they were racists or not. Now that's just the harsh realityy of Amerrican history.

There are no laws and policies just for whites today. You are the whiner.

 

[JoeBlow]

I mean really? What in the hell makes a group of people with a history of enslavement , genocide and apartheid in order to achieve what they have belive they have been so sucessful that they can lecture others. Without enslavement, genocide and aparthied, whites in America would have very little, if anything.

People in this forum have the opinion that blacks should do things like whites and if we do so, we can make it in America. So then what we need to do is orchestate a bloody coup, confiscate all property owned by whites, jail all whites who oppose the coup, write a new constitution that declare citizenship and it's protection only for non whites, make whites chattel for the forseeable future, make it illegal for whites to reald, own property or access information and create laws where if whites get out of line they can be beaten and killed.

Because this is how whites have done it.

In another forum, I stated that the root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. One of the whites there decided to say this:

“The root cause of the problems faced by most blacks today are people like you who misidentify or ignore the real problems they face to further their own personal agendas.”

This is another of the long, long line of idiotic comments made by right wing whites. White racism was determined to be the problem 53 years ago by the Kerner Commission.

"What white Americans have never fully understood but what the Negro can never forget--is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto. White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it, and white society condones it."

"White racism is essentially responsible for the explosive mixture which has been accumulating in our cities since the end of World War II."

But the excuse will be made about how that was 50 years ago, and that stupid ass song will be sung titled, "That was in the Past."

On February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission findings, the Economic Policy Institute published a report evaluating the progress of the black community since the Kerner Report was released. It was based on a study done by the Economic Policy Institute that compared the progress of the black community in 2018 with the condition of the black community at the time of the Kerner Commission. Titled “50 years after the Kerner Commission,” the study concluded that there had been some improvements in the situation blacks faced but there were still disadvantages blacks faced that were based on race.

Following up on this, Richard Rothstein of the Economic Policy Institute wrote an op-ed published in the February 28th edition of the New York Daily News titled, “50 years after the Kerner Commission, minimal racial progress.” It had been 50 years since the commission made their recommendations at that point, yet Rothstein makes this statement: “So little has changed since 1968 that the report remains worth reading as a near-contemporary description of racial inequality.”

So 3 years ago the same conclusion was made. "The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism."

On October 24, 2013, the Kellogg Foundation sent out a press release about a report they had done entitled, “The Business Case for Racial Equity”. This was a study done by the Kellogg Foundation, using information it had studied and assessed from the Center for American Progress, National Urban League Policy Institute, Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies and the U.S. Department of Justice.

“Striving for racial equity – a world where race is no longer a factor in the distribution of opportunity – is a matter of social justice. But moving toward racial equity can generate significant economic returns as well. When people face barriers to achieving their full potential, the loss of talent, creativity, energy, and productivity is a burden not only for those disadvantaged, but for communities, businesses, governments, and the economy as a whole. Initial research on the magnitude of this burden in the United States (U.S.), as highlighted in this brief, reveals impacts in the trillions of dollars in lost earnings, avoidable public expenditures, and lost economic output.”

The Kellogg Foundation and Altarum Institute

In 2011, DEMOS did a study named “The Racial Wealth Gap, Why Policy Matters”, which discussed the racial wealth gap, the problems associated with it along with solutions and outcomes if the gap did not exist. In this study DEMOS determined that the racial wealth gap was primarily driven by policy decisions.

“The U.S. racial wealth gap is substantial and is driven by public policy decisions. According to our analysis of the SIPP data, in 2011 the median white household had $111,146 in wealth holdings, compared to just $7,113 for the median Black household and $8,348 for the median Latino household. From the continuing impact of redlining on American homeownership to the retreat from desegregation in public education, public policy has shaped these disparities, leaving them impossible to overcome without racially-aware policy change.”

Harvard.

“Racial inequality in the United States today may, ultimately, be based on slavery, but it is also based on the failure of the country to take effective steps since slavery to undermine the structural racial inequality that slavery put in place. From the latter part of the nineteenth century through the first half of the twentieth century, the Jim Crow system continued to keep Blacks “in their place,” and even during and after the civil rights era no policies were adopted to dismantle the racial hierarchy that already existed.”

HOUSING DISCRIMINATION AS A BASIS FOR BLACK REPARATIONS, Jonathan Kaplan and Andrew Valls, Public Affairs Quarterly

Volume 21, Number 3, July 2007

McKinsey and Co.

“It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm.”

Citigroup

Cost Of Racism: U.S. Economy Lost $16 Trillion Because Of Discrimination, Bank Says

Nationwide protests have cast a spotlight on racism and inequality in the United States. Now a major bank has put a price tag on how much the economy has lost as a result of discrimination against African Americans: $16 trillion.

Since 2000, U.S. gross domestic product lost that much as a result of discriminatory practices in a range of areas, including in education and access to business loans, according to a new study by Citigroup.

Specifically, the study came up with $16 trillion in lost GDP by noting four key racial gaps between African Americans and whites:

$13 trillion lost in potential business revenue because of discriminatory lending to African American entrepreneurs, with an estimated 6.1 million jobs not generated as a result

$2.7 trillion in income lost because of disparities in wages suffered by African Americans

$218 billion lost over the past two decades because of discrimination in providing housing credit

And $90 billion to $113 billion in lifetime income lost from discrimination in accessing higher education

Why this is just a bunch of liberal jibberish to to blacks in order to keep them voting democrat. Those aren't the problems, what we conservatives tell you is the real problem. Why if you just had a father in the home none of this would happen.

Black Workers Still Earn Less than Their White Counterparts

As employers in the U.S. tackle issues around racism, fresh attention is being given to the racial wage gap and why black men and women, in particular, still earn substantially less than their white counterparts. Nearly 56 years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, "we find equal pay for equal work is still not a reality," noted Jackson Gruver, a data analyst at compensation data and software firm PayScale.

Last year, PayScale analyzed differences in earnings between white men and men of color using data from a sample of 1.8 million employees surveyed between January 2017 and February 2019.

Among the findings, Gruver reported: "Even as black or African-American men climb the corporate ladder, they still make less than equally qualified white men. They are the only racial/ethnic group that does not achieve pay parity with white men at some level."

The study found that black men had the largest "uncontrolled pay gap" relative to white men, when comparing the average earnings of black men and white men in the U.S.

On average, black men earned 87 cents for every dollar a white man earned. Hispanic workers had the next largest gap, earning 91 cents for every dollar earned by white men.

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To put that in perspective, the median salary of a white man in our sample is $72,900; the controlled median pay for black or African-American men is thus $71,500," Gruver said. "This suggests a $1,400 difference in pay that is likely attributable to race."

So daddy lives at home and the family still makes less than whites. Because:

NWLC calculations, based on the U.S. Census Bureau's Current Population Survey for 2016, revealed that when comparing all men and women who work full time, year-round in the U.S., women were paid just 80 cents for every dollar paid to their male counterparts. But the wage gap was even larger when looking specifically at black women who work full time, year-round—they were paid only 63 cents for every dollar paid to white, non-Hispanic men.

Stephen Miller, Black Workers Still Earn Less than Their White Counterparts, www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/compensation/pages/racial-wage-gaps-persistence-poses-challenge.aspx

So a white working couple will make 90 cents on every dollar while a black working couple makes 75 cents. To allow you to understand this reality a white female worker makes 80 cents on every dollar a white man makes. White females are demanding equal pay and rightfully so.

And you black folk really need to start taking education seriously.

Black unemployment is significantly higher than white unemployment regardless of educational attainment

The black unemployment rate is nearly or more than twice the white unemployment rate regardless of educational attainment. It is, and always has been, about twice the white unemployment rate; however, the depth of this racial inequality in the labor market rarely makes the headlines.

Over the last 12 months, the average unemployment rate for black college graduates has been 4.1 percent—nearly two times the average unemployment rate for white college graduates (2.4 percent) and equivalent to the unemployment rate of whites with an associate’s degree or who have not completed college (4.0 percent). The largest disparity is seen among those with less than a high school diploma: while whites with less than a high school diploma have an unemployment rate of 6.9 percent, the black unemployment rate is 16.6 percent—over two times the white average.

The broader significance of this disparity suggests a race penalty whereby blacks at each level of education have unemployment rates that are the same as or higher than less educated whites.

Valerie Wilson, Black unemployment is significantly higher than white unemployment regardless of educational attainment, www.epi.org/publication/black-unemployment-educational-attainment/

African Americans are paid less than whites at every education level

While the economy continues to improve and wages are finally beginning to inch up for most Americans, African Americans are still being paid less than whites at every education level. As you can see from the chart below, while a college education results in higher wages—both for whites and blacks—it does not eliminate the black-white wage gap. African Americans are still earning less than whites at every level of educational attainment. A recent EPI report, Black-white wage gaps expand with rising wage inequality, shows that this gap persists even after controlling for years of experience, region of the country, and whether one lives in an urban or rural area. In fact, since 1979, the gaps between black and white workers have grown the most among workers with a bachelor’s degree or higher—the most educated workers.

Valerie Wilson, African Americans are paid less than whites at every education level, www.epi.org/publication/african-americans-are-paid-less-than-whites-at-every-education-level/

But to say white racism is the cause of things no matter how much proof we show your white asses, you have some kind of idiotic ass excuse, like we are blaming whites for our failures or;

We misdiagnose and ignore the "real" problem to fit an imaginary agenda racists in tha white community invented so they can deny how THEY are the root cause of the problem.

You right wing scrubs are always talking about responsibility.

Take some instead of running your mouths.

Why Do Whites Think They Can Tell Us What The Problems in Black America Are?

Because Black don't see the obvious, someone has to tell them. Valuing education, using condoms and respect for other people's property.

 

[IM2]

Why Do Whites Think They Can Tell Us What The Problems in Black America Are?

Because Black don't see the obvious, someone has to tell them. Valuing education, using condoms and respect for other people's property.

Whites have the problem with the obvious. 245 years of racist public policy is the problem. The things you mention are not. Here is an example of your ignorance.

Whites have led in this category every year since I began looking at this in 1994. So it is apparent who can't see the obvious.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Whites have the problem with the obvious. 245 years of racist public policy is the problem. The things you mention are not. Here is an example of your ignorance.

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Whites have led in this category every year since I began looking at this in 1994. So it is apparent who can't see the obvious.

Moron alert whites are 60 plus percent of the population if the crime stat does not show at least that much then whites are under represented in that crime. Meanwhile 37 percent of all violent crime is committed by a population of 12 percent.

 

[IM2]

Moron alert whites are 60 plus percent of the population if the crime stat does not show at least that much then whites are under represented in that crime. Meanwhile 37 percent of all violent crime is committed by a population of 12 percent.

No, your use of percentages is flawed. Percentages have numbers attached and these numbers are subsets of the population. The subset of the American population who were arrested in property crime equalled 775,091. Out of that number 66.8 percent of the population who were arrested for property crime was white. Nearly 7 out of every ten arrests for property crimes are on whites. Less than less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the American population were blacks who got arrested for property crimes. It's time to stop this flawed use of percentages only when the issue is crime.

 

[horselightning]

Why Do Whites Think They Can Tell Us What The Problems in Black America Are?

Because Black don't see the obvious, someone has to tell them. Valuing education, using condoms and respect for other people's property.

correct blacks are in denial. no other race is.

 

[IM2]

correct blacks are in denial. no other race is.

Your post is evidence of right wing white denial.

I'm black, I know what the problem is. You racists don't.

 

[marvin martian]

Your post is evidence of right wing white denial.

I'm black, I know what the problem is. You racists don't.

Good thing you "fixed" the problem by electing people like this:

 

[BackAgain]

As the evidence shows, whites are being blamed for things whites have done.

What evidence is that? By some black people (remember, you cannot truly speak for all black people), whites are blamed for stuff whites haven’t done. And what about the part that black Africans had in Africa for enslaving other black Africans?

As for your silly attempt to blame all whites for the former American problem of slavery, that’s easily dismissed. Not even all whites at that time supported slavery. During the Civil War lots of white men died in fact knowing that what they were really fighting for was to end slavery.

And, as for present day white people, many (i.e., “all”) of us have an excellent alibi. We weren’t even born yet. You might wanna give logic a try someday. You are not likely to ever get skilled at it given your tragic and obvious mental deficiencies. But it might help you to try try try.

 

[IM2]

Good thing you "fixed" the problem by electing people like this:

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As expected. Staight dumb ass.

 

[IM2]

What evidence is that? By some black people (remember, you cannot truly speak for all black people), whites are blamed for stuff whites haven’t done. And what about the part that black Africans had in Africa for enslaving other black Africans?

As for your silly attempt to blame all whites for the former American problem of slavery, that’s easily dismissed. Not even all whites at that time supported slavery. During the Civil War lots of white men died in fact knowing that what they were really fighting for was to end slavery.

And, as for present day white people, many (i.e., “all”) of us have an excellent alibi. We weren’t even born yet. You might wanna give logic a try someday. You are not likely to ever get skilled at it given your tragic and obvious mental deficiencies. But it might help you to try try try.

Don't even try it. When whites like you can't face the truth, then we can't speak for all black people. But when some sellout says what you want to believe they speak for all blacks. Whites did not die fighting for slavery. And don't talk that some whites shit because the laws and policies created did not apply to "some whites". They applied to all whites. It wasn't illegal for "some whites" to own slaves, it was that "some whites" could not afford to buy slaves. So "some whites" would rent slaves. And when convict leasing was in place after slavery ended "some" more whites would rent blacks falsely accused of crimes and used them for slave labor. That did not "end" until the 1940's, even though some say it exists today because of our prison system.

I am talking about present day whites because present day whites are doing the same shit as past whites. They just do it differently. You weren't born when the constitution was ratified but it impacts us now. What you call logic I call a series of racist excuses. I don't need to ge skilled. I worked for 42 years and retired. So shut the fuck up and listen, because the root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. We have a continuing history that provides the evidence. Go read it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You are an ignorant fool you dont know simply math and cant do simple english.