Why Do Whites Think They Can Tell Us What The Problems in Black America Are?

[Paul Essien]

SonnyCorleone

I agree with you on this one. Anne Boeyln played by a black women is stupid but I have no facts for this but I'd lay a good bet that the person who hired her for the film wasn't black.

As Bob Dylan same thing. Dylan is white but I find it funny many whites says Jewish people are not white. Don't they ? But because a black man played him now he's (Dylan who is Jewish) is part of the white club again

But you're outraged when blacks play white characters but when Hollywood white washes characters and has (almost) since its inception that's no problem

Because did you know in Willy Wonka's and the "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" that originally the author, Roald Dahl made Charlie "a little black boy" ? And he also made the Oopma lumpas African pygmies ?



But when it went to screen made them white

How about the Lone Ranger: Johnny Depp portraying Tonto, a Native America man ?

Or in "Aloha" Emma Stone portraying an Asian American ?

Or "Breakfast at Tiffany's" Mickey Rooney as an Asian Landlord ?

Or in "Dragon Seed" Katharine Hepburn as a Chinese woman ?

Or "Othello" Laurence Olivier in blackface to play Shakespeare's Moor.

 

[Batcat]

Batcat
I worked for a major corporation that was always searching for qualified blacks to promote.

That's what you are telling me but I don't believe you. If whites at your company wanted to hire or promote black people. They would do it.

Batcat
A black who had some education could easily climb the corporate ladder and many did.

This assumes that white people are totally fair minded and can judge black ppl with no degree of racism. I don't know any study that shows them capable of that.

Batcat
One big problem I see today is many of the schools in the large cities run by democrats are failing to educate their students. Many have a hard time reading or doing basic math even if they graduate. A high percentage of the students in those areas are black. Without a good education their opportunities are limited. You can’t be the head of a quality department in a high tech industry if you can’t read well.

Well if you have a system with profoundly unstandardized schools, profoundly unstandardized financial resources, profoundly unstandardized teaching training, profoundly unstandardized curriculum.

And then you give the kids what ? A standardized test

What do you expect ?

And then ppl like you act shocked when at the end of an unstandardized process all the kids coming through don't do equally as well and you say to those who didn't do as well (who will disproportionately be black of low income because who those are ones who are likely to go to the schools without those equal resources) that "You can't go to that college" "You can't to this uni" "Matter of fact you can't go to any college at all" "You're not that smart"

Besides, even if a black kid slipped through, whites would rather hire white or Asian person even if the black person was a better nuclear physicist and scored higher

Batcat
I recently moved from a small town in Florida to a more rural area. I lived in that city for fifteen years and had black neighbors all that time and were good friends with them.

Is that supposed to impress me ?

Batcat
We moved because my son in law and myself were the only people living in an enormous home that had once been a hotel. At one time a dozen or more people lived in that home with us but kids grow up and renters leave. After 15 years of listening to logging trucks drive by all day and oten at night I wanted to live in a quiet neighborhood for a change.

"Quiet" means white. Doesn't it ? And you could live in those quiet area with ease because a system has been set up which makes sure that sizeable % of white people get access to those prosperous areas with the help of mortgage discrimination, redlining, zoning laws and so-called “market forces” pricing many blacks out of the better housing markets (even though whites only got into those markets because of government subsidies and preferences, both private and public).

The major corporation I worked for was involved with government contracts. That could be why they searched for qualified blacks to promote. They also looked for women to promote. Most of those they promoted did perform well in management.

However the people the corporation would promote had to be able to read and be good at math as their duties involved those skills. Most had some college education and a high percentage were college graduates. In fact the average line assembler of the highly technical equipment we made had to be able to read well in order to follow the layouts that contained the procedures for building the devices we manufactured.

We live in a highly technical world and the good paying jobs require at least basic reading and math skills. ,

For that reason it is extremely important that our public educational system actually educates its students. It really upsets me to read reports like the one linked below. I could care less wheat type of tests the school system gives its students. I do care if I tell a new employee to follow the instructions in a layout that he can at least read them and comprehend what they say. The employment tests my company gave potential hires made sure they could read and comprehend.

Baltimore high schoolers barely able to read or do math past elementary levels

Project Baltimore obtained student iReady assessment scores in math and reading that show some students are performing ten grade levels below their age.

thepostmillennial.com

We moved to a more quiet area because my son in law never could sleep well with logging trucks roaring by our home at all hours of the day and night. I grew up before freeways living on a major highway so the trucks is never bothered me in the least. I also lived near Tampa International for over 30 years. My son in law was always a country boy and just couldn’t sleep well living by a major road. We had a volunteer fire station just down the street and even at 3 am they would fire up their trucks and their sirens and roar past our home.

Quiet doesn’t always translate to “white only.”

We never had any problem with blacks or for that matter any fear of them. We were friends with many of the blacks who lived near us. You may find this difficult to believe but that is quite possibly because YOU are racist.

 

[JohnReese]

SonnyCorleone

I agree with you on this one. Anne Boeyln played by a black women is stupid but I have no facts for this but I'd lay a good bet that the person who hired her for the film wasn't black.

As Bob Dylan same thing. Dylan is white but I find it funny many whites says Jewish people are not white. Don't they ? But because a black man played him now he's (Dylan who is Jewish) is part of the white club again

But you're outraged when blacks play white characters but when Hollywood white washes characters and has (almost) since its inception that's no problem

Because did you know in Willy Wonka's and the "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" that originally the author, Roald Dahl made Charlie "a little black boy" ? And he also made the Oopma lumpas African pygmies ?



But when it went to screen made them white

How about the Lone Ranger: Johnny Depp portraying Tonto, a Native America man ?

Or in "Aloha" Emma Stone portraying an Asian American ?

Or "Breakfast at Tiffany's" Mickey Rooney as an Asian Landlord ?

Or in "Dragon Seed" Katharine Hepburn as a Chinese woman ?

Or "Othello" Laurence Olivier in blackface to play Shakespeare's Moor.

The White people you named are big stars. They can headline a film. People from all over observe them. I want to congratulate you for having rendered the term racism completely meaningless

.Bob Dylan's Nobel prize isn't radical. He's just another white male writer

 

[Canon Shooter]

And why were there slums in the first place ? Because of the white supremacists. You're people are trying to fix a problem that you created yourselves.

Slums exist because negroes have no pride. They'll willingly live in shit-holes because they're too goddamn stupid to do otherwise...

What have they done ? I want to see what they have done.

I'm sure you could find that out. I provided you a list of things they were going to do. Maybe you can get off your lazy, fat, negro ass and look into what they've done...

And I don't give them any credit. Black Americans are taxpayers and that tax payers money is supposed to go to the uplift of your community. No credit

We're not talking taxpayer money, you fucking simp. Citi vowed to take money from its corporate coffers and invest over a billion fucking dollars into the shit-hole neighborhoods where you and your ilk live. They didn't have to do that.

This is why you will never get a fucking thing from anyone. You're unappreciative as fuck when positive things in the community are done. You just want more. You are going to die an old-ass negro, in your slummy old-ass negro neighborhood, simply because you think you're owed more. Well, you're not owed a fucking thing.

Tell us, you feckless little fuck, what more should Citi have done?

 

[westwall]

Do you believe you are superior to a black man ?

To you, IM2, and all you other racists?Absolutely. But to an average black man, nah. We are all equal.

 

[Canon Shooter]

That's what you are telling me but I don't believe you. If whites at your company wanted to hire or promote black people. They would do it.

See, the problem that negroes like yourself have is that people like me; people who own companies, aren't really interested in hiring black people. We're interested in hiring qualified black people.

This is just another pathetic example of how you believe you should be given something, in this case a job, because of your skin color and nothing more.

I have plenty of blacks who work for me. They're all educated, talented and hardworking. Those three things will get you hired at my company. Those three things will get you hired whether you're white, black, brown, red, green or blue. Just being a whiny little negro will get you nothing...

 

[Paul Essien]

Slums exist because negroes have no pride. They'll willingly live in shit-holes because they're too goddamn stupid to do otherwise...



I'm sure you could find that out. I provided you a list of things they were going to do. Maybe you can get off your lazy, fat, negro ass and look into what they've done...



We're not talking taxpayer money, you fucking simp. Citi vowed to take money from its corporate coffers and invest over a billion fucking dollars into the shit-hole neighborhoods where you and your ilk live. They didn't have to do that.

This is why you will never get a fucking thing from anyone. You're unappreciative as fuck when positive things in the community are done. You just want more. You are going to die an old-ass negro, in your slummy old-ass negro neighborhood, simply because you think you're owed more. Well, you're not owed a fucking thing.

Tell us, you feckless little fuck, what more should Citi have done?

Show me what Citi have done. Otherwise they are not doing anything

 

[Paul Essien]

Batcat
The major corporation I worked for was involved with government contracts. That could be why they searched for qualified blacks to promote. They also looked for women to promote. Most of those they promoted did perform well in management.

That's what you are telling but I don't believe you.

 

[Paul Essien]

The White people you named are big stars. They can headline a film. People from all over observe them. I want to congratulate you for having rendered the term racism completely meaningless

.Bob Dylan's Nobel prize isn't radical. He's just another white male writer

So if it's ok for white people to play black and non white people as long as they are famous ?

So if Anne Boyelon and Bob Dylan were played by famous black actors that would be ok to you ?

 

[Paul Essien]

Canon Shooter
See, the problem that negroes like yourself have is that people like me; people who own companies, aren't really interested in hiring black people. We're interested in hiring qualified black people.

Well I disagree with that. That's not how white supremacists think. They would rather hire a less qualified white person than a black person

Canon Shooter
This is just another pathetic example of how you believe you should be given something, in this case a job, because of your skin color and nothing more.

The system of racism - white supremacy is the prime example of how whites think something should be given to them for free

Canon Shooter
I have plenty of blacks who work for me. They're all educated, talented and hardworking. Those three things will get you hired at my company.

Is that supposed to impress me ? You're still a fat old white supremacist

 

[IM2]

White Supremacy is not a thing. We, White men, are comfortable in our skin. We don't try to be something we are not your men do. They race-swap white roles. What's wrong they can't play themselves?

Bullshit. Stop being white and telling people that white supremacy doesn't exist. You're white so yo don't face it, more than likey given yoir comments, you participate in it. I'm a black man, I've never tried to be "white", whatever thats supposed to mean.

 

[IM2]

I still don’t see lots of videos of whites sucker punching blacks on the streets of big cities.

Where are the videos of young white men attacking an elderly black woman and beating her senseless?

The hatred toward whites and Asians is poisoning the chances to succeed for young black men. They are told the evil white man is holding them down and they believe it and lack the desire to even try.

I want blacks to succeed.

If blacks are successful they will pay a higher share of the taxes which should drop my share. (Of course the democrats are trying to spend such a ridiculous amount of money we all will end up taxed to death.)

If I was as racist as you assume I would be all for abortion. I am not except in cases of rape.

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU10/20171101/106562/HHRG-115-JU10-Wstate-ParkerS-20171101-SD001.pdf

Dis-proportionally, the leading consumer of the abortionists’ services is the African-American female. According to the 2011 Abortion Surveillance Report issued by the Center for Disease Control, black women make up 14 percent of the childbearing population, yet obtained 36.2 percent of reported abortions. Black women have the highest abortion ratio in the country, with 474 abortions per 1,000 live births. Percentages at these levels illustrate that more than 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973.iv

According to the Departments of Public Health of every state that reports abortion by ethnicity; black women disproportionately lead in the numbers. For example, in Mississippi, 79 percent of abortions are obtained by black women; in Washington, D.C., more than 60 percent; in Georgia, 59.4 percent; in Alabama, 58.4 percent. In state after state, similar numbers are found, with black women aborting at two, three or more times their presence in the population. At every income level, black women have higher abortion rates than Whites or Hispanics, except for women below the poverty line, where Hispanic women have slightly higher rates than black women.v

Everything you are posting is incorrect. I am black, I know the stats. So quit trying to explain to me why you think blacks are where we are and listen to a black person who has lived it and knows why we are where we are.

 

[IM2]

Canon Shooter
See, the problem that negroes like yourself have is that people like me; people who own companies, aren't really interested in hiring black people. We're interested in hiring qualified black people.

See, the problem that white boys like yourself have is that you only talk about someone being qualified when it comes to blacks. You will hire shitloads of unqualified whites but in debates about race you try covering your racism by claiming how you look for qualified blacks.

Given that I have done the same thing you have, the reality of employment is that people apply or turn in resumes for jobs they are generally qualified to do. So qualification is not the issue unless you're a white racist making excuses.

 

[Canon Shooter]

That's what you are telling but I don't believe you.

And this is why everyone here is convinced you're nothing but a lying piece of shit negro.

The guy tells you his company is doing something good and you essentially call him a liar. Why? Well, because anyone doing anything good for blacks destroys your stupid little arguments. You say he's lying. You've got to base that on, since you know neither him nor his corporation, but that doesn't stop you. Whenever someone tells you any good that they're doing to help blacks you dismiss it out of hand.

You're nothing but a poor, bitter colored boy.

And that makes me smile...

 

[Canon Shooter]

Canon Shooter
See, the problem that negroes like yourself have is that people like me; people who own companies, aren't really interested in hiring black people. We're interested in hiring qualified black people.

See, the problem that white boys like yourself have is that you only talk about someone being qualified when it comes to blacks. You will hire shitloads of unqualified whites but in debates about race you try covering your racism by claiming how you look for qualified blacks.

Given that I have done the same thing you have, the reality of employment is that people apply or turn in resumes for jobs they are generally qualified to do. So qualification is not the issue unless you're a white racist making excuses.

Listen up, you sniveling little bitch: Everyone who works for my companies are qualified. I mentioned hiring qualified blacks because you talked about people hiring blacks.

I hire whites, blacks, Latinos, Asians; the whole gamut. And everyone of them has talent, and everyone of them is qualified.

You're not even qualified to park the cars here...

 

[22lcidw]

SonnyCorleone

I agree with you on this one. Anne Boeyln played by a black women is stupid but I have no facts for this but I'd lay a good bet that the person who hired her for the film wasn't black.

As Bob Dylan same thing. Dylan is white but I find it funny many whites says Jewish people are not white. Don't they ? But because a black man played him now he's (Dylan who is Jewish) is part of the white club again

But you're outraged when blacks play white characters but when Hollywood white washes characters and has (almost) since its inception that's no problem

Because did you know in Willy Wonka's and the "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" that originally the author, Roald Dahl made Charlie "a little black boy" ? And he also made the Oopma lumpas African pygmies ?



But when it went to screen made them white

How about the Lone Ranger: Johnny Depp portraying Tonto, a Native America man ?

Or in "Aloha" Emma Stone portraying an Asian American ?

Or "Breakfast at Tiffany's" Mickey Rooney as an Asian Landlord ?

Or in "Dragon Seed" Katharine Hepburn as a Chinese woman ?

Or "Othello" Laurence Olivier in blackface to play Shakespeare's Moor.

Every Progressive Socialist African American woman in entertainment of any kind must now have a natural hair style. No cosmetic changes to their faces. No lightening of their color. Prove it.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Everything you are posting is incorrect. I am black, I know the stats. So quit trying to explain to me why you think blacks are where we are and listen to a black person who has lived it and knows why we are where we are.

I've got a guy who works for me, a black gentleman, who just took delivery of an $80,000 Jaguar F-Type.

I can tell you exactly why he is where he is...

 

[Canon Shooter]

Canon Shooter
See, the problem that negroes like yourself have is that people like me; people who own companies, aren't really interested in hiring black people. We're interested in hiring qualified black people.

Well I disagree with that. That's not how white supremacists think. They would rather hire a less qualified white person than a black person

Well, you're stupid. I want to hire the person who is going to perform the best for my company. In many cases, that ends up being a black person. Not a negro, like you, but a black person...

Canon Shooter
This is just another pathetic example of how you believe you should be given something, in this case a job, because of your skin color and nothing more.

The system of racism - white supremacy is the prime example of how whites think something should be given to them for free

Yet you're the one who whines about everything you don't have and how the government owes you something. Get off your dead ass and prove that you have some worth...

Canon Shooter
I have plenty of blacks who work for me. They're all educated, talented and hardworking. Those three things will get you hired at my company.

Is that supposed to impress me ? You're still a fat old white supremacist

Fat? Like anyone I could probably stand to lose 10-15 pounds. Old? I don't see 59 as "old". White supremacist? See, I don't see myself as being superior to blacks. I do, however, see myself as being vastly superior to whiny negroes like you...

 

[Canon Shooter]

So if it's ok for white people to play black and non white people as long as they are famous ?

So if Anne Boyelon and Bob Dylan were played by famous black actors that would be ok to you ?

It's already been done. This old, white Jewish man was played by Eddie Murphy:

 

[Canon Shooter]

Show me what Citi have done. Otherwise they are not doing anything

Here, you stupid fuck: Citi’s $1 Billion Action for Racial Equity Initiative Demonstrates Early Results in the Fight to Address the Racial Wealth Gap

That's as of this past April. I'd dig for more, but the bottom line is you're not worth the effort. Everyone here knows you'll dismiss it.

Citi has done more for negroes like you than you have ever done for yourself.

Fact.