Why Do Trump Supporters Have Such A Hard Time Admitting He's A Convicted Felon?

I'm confused. What do you think I was doing for Trump?

giving the benefit of the doubt to donny & not e. jean, when the evidence was clearly in her favor. not once, but twice. the only reason it wasn't 'criminal' was because if the statute if limitations.

it may not be criminal, but it sure as fk it was immoral.
 
giving the benefit of the doubt to donny & not e. jean, when the evidence was clearly in her favor. not once, but twice. the only reason it wasn't 'criminal' was because if the statute if limitations.

it may not be criminal, but it sure as fk it was immoral.

giving the benefit of the doubt to donny & not e. jean, when the evidence was clearly in her favor.

What evidence?
 
giving the benefit of the doubt to donny & not e. jean, when the evidence was clearly in her favor.

What evidence?

AI Overview



In her civil suits against Donald Trump, E. Jean Carroll provided evidence of sexual abuse and defamation. Her case relied on her own sworn testimony, contemporaneous accounts from confidants, "similar acts" testimony from two other women, the infamous Access Hollywood tape, and Trump’s own recorded deposition. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
The key pieces of evidence presented included:
  • Carroll's Personal Testimony: Carroll testified in detail about the 1990s encounter in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room, where she alleged Trump restrained her, subjected her to unwanted sexual contact, and forced his fingers inside her before she escaped. [1, 2, 3]
  • Immediate Corroborating Witnesses: Two of Carroll's close friends testified that Carroll had confided in them shortly after the alleged incident occurred in the 1990s. [1, 2]
  • "Similar Acts" Evidence: The court permitted the testimony of two other women who testified that Trump had separately sexually assaulted them in other instances years prior. This evidence was used to establish a historical pattern of behavior. [1, 2]
  • The Access Hollywood Tape: Carroll’s legal team played the 2005 Access Hollywood recording, in which Trump made explicit comments about grabbing women by their genitals without consent, as evidence of his intent and propensity to act accordingly. [1, 2, 3]
  • Trump’s Own Deposition & Statements: Portions of Trump's October 2022 deposition were used as evidence. In these clips, and in public statements (such as his claim that Carroll was "not my type"), Carroll’s team successfully argued that he defamed her character and maliciously attacked her credibility after she came forward in 2019. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Ultimately, juries in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York found by a preponderance of the evidence that Trump sexually abused and defamed Carroll, leading to multi-million dollar damage awards. [1, 2]

^ that.
 
AI Overview



In her civil suits against Donald Trump, E. Jean Carroll provided evidence of sexual abuse and defamation. Her case relied on her own sworn testimony, contemporaneous accounts from confidants, "similar acts" testimony from two other women, the infamous Access Hollywood tape, and Trump’s own recorded deposition. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
The key pieces of evidence presented included:
  • Carroll's Personal Testimony: Carroll testified in detail about the 1990s encounter in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room, where she alleged Trump restrained her, subjected her to unwanted sexual contact, and forced his fingers inside her before she escaped. [1, 2, 3]
  • Immediate Corroborating Witnesses: Two of Carroll's close friends testified that Carroll had confided in them shortly after the alleged incident occurred in the 1990s. [1, 2]
  • "Similar Acts" Evidence: The court permitted the testimony of two other women who testified that Trump had separately sexually assaulted them in other instances years prior. This evidence was used to establish a historical pattern of behavior. [1, 2]
  • The Access Hollywood Tape: Carroll’s legal team played the 2005 Access Hollywood recording, in which Trump made explicit comments about grabbing women by their genitals without consent, as evidence of his intent and propensity to act accordingly. [1, 2, 3]
  • Trump’s Own Deposition & Statements: Portions of Trump's October 2022 deposition were used as evidence. In these clips, and in public statements (such as his claim that Carroll was "not my type"), Carroll’s team successfully argued that he defamed her character and maliciously attacked her credibility after she came forward in 2019. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Ultimately, juries in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York found by a preponderance of the evidence that Trump sexually abused and defamed Carroll, leading to multi-million dollar damage awards. [1, 2]

^ that.

In her civil suits against Donald Trump, E. Jean Carroll provided evidence of sexual abuse and defamation. Her case relied on her own sworn testimony, contemporaneous accounts from confidants, "similar acts" testimony from two other women,


Was that the testimony where she couldn't remember the year?
Weak memory and hearsay.
That's some solid evidence......not!

Carroll testified in detail about the 1990s encounter

1990s? Not the specific year?

Two of Carroll's close friends testified that Carroll had confided in them shortly after the alleged incident occurred in the 1990s.

Did they remember the year?

The court permitted the testimony of two other women who testified that Trump had separately sexually assaulted them in other instances years prior.

Are 3 instances of hearsay more convincing than 1 instance?
 
In her civil suits against Donald Trump, E. Jean Carroll provided evidence of sexual abuse and defamation. Her case relied on her own sworn testimony, contemporaneous accounts from confidants, "similar acts" testimony from two other women,

Was that the testimony where she couldn't remember the year?
Weak memory and hearsay.
That's some solid evidence......not!

Carroll testified in detail about the 1990s encounter

1990s? Not the specific year?

Two of Carroll's close friends testified that Carroll had confided in them shortly after the alleged incident occurred in the 1990s.

Did they remember the year?

The court permitted the testimony of two other women who testified that Trump had separately sexually assaulted them in other instances years prior.

Are 3 instances of hearsay more convincing than 1 instance?

your answers most likely can be found here:

https://law.justia.com/cases/federa...1-Fb_FVv.cpPm.wT26GwaNUt9hobXYo1hasZrhddsuLRo

https://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/2023-01/Carroll II DI 38 Opinion.pdf

happy reading!

& as an FYI - donny offered no witness' nor did he take the stand.
 
"A distinction without a difference" is a rhetorical or logical expression used when someone argues that two things are different, but the difference has no practical, substantive, or meaningful effect

No, it’s a huge difference. I get that you don’t want to admit it but there’s a major difference between being found liable in a civil case and being found guilty in a criminal trial. Only someone really ignorant would say there isn’t.
 
No, it’s a huge difference. I get that you don’t want to admit it but there’s a major difference between being found liable in a civil case and being found guilty in a criminal trial. Only someone really ignorant would say there isn’t.

i get why you need to defend a rapist.

this wasn't some isolated incident, no matter how you wanna spin this. you know it & i know it.

it's pathetic at best & welllll....

cult ......

at worst.
 
i get why you need to defend a rapist.

this wasn't some isolated incident, no matter how you wanna spin this. you know it & i know it.

it's pathetic at best & welllll....

cult ......

at worst.

What is it that you get? The point is that in this country a person is innocent until proven guilty, even someone you don’t like. Now I get it, you want to keep claiming Trump is a rapist. Freedom of speech and all that. What if I say you kick puppies? Do I have to prove it or can I just repeat a million times and pretend it is a fact?
 
What is it that you get? The point is that in this country a person is innocent until proven guilty, even someone you don’t like. Now I get it, you want to keep claiming Trump is a rapist. Freedom of speech and all that. What if I say you kick puppies? Do I have to prove it or can I just repeat a million times and pretend it is a fact?

nice try.

first you should establish a provable history of me kicking puppies to try to make some headway.
 
nice try.

first you should establish a provable history of me kicking puppies to try to make some headway.

No, I don’t have to prove anything. I just have to make the accusation time and time again. There’s no need to actually prove anything. You don’t get to face your accusers. There won’t be a criminal trial. Innocent until proven guilty? Not in this day and time.
 
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