Why Do Trump Supporters Have Such A Hard Time Admitting He's A Convicted Felon?

[WorldWatcher]

§ 175.10 is what he was charged with, falsifying business records to conceal a crime. § 17-152 was the crime he tried to conceal.

The basis of the question was what felony was Trump charged with. He wasn't charged under 152, he was charged under 175.10.

There were three possible concealment of crimes that could be used as motivation for the for his illegal acts under 175.10:

• Cohen's conviction for feloncy campaign finance fraud,
• Interference with an election under New York State 152,
• And violation of New York tax law (I forget the number) by improperly classifying reimburseale expenses as income payments for attorney fee's to Cohen.

I think the best case is made using Cohen's conviction. 152 is plausible based on the evidence presented in court, but not as strongly supported as attempting to hide Cohen's illegal activities. The New York income tax angle, IMHO, was a stretch.
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You have to watch it with Trump defenders, they act like the underlying crime for 175.10 has to be (a) charged, and (b) committed by Trump. So they like to deflect. That is not the case in general, they only have to be shown as a motivating factors to the jury. But in this case you have the ACTUAL conviction of Cohen for the crime, and the Trump scheme to hid the payments to Cohen to cover up the crime by laundering the money through his business entity.

WW

 

[WEATHER53]

Example of that happening?

You cannot be serious. Been discussed here many times and not refuted
Stay under your rock before pushing such nonsense

 

[WEATHER53]

sooooooooooo.............. that would be you think it was rigged?

I know and the world knows that at around 2am the tallying was halted and Trump up 250k. At about 6am the counting resumed and Biden is up 250K
The ridiculous explanation was that they Did stop counting BUT those 500k all for Biden were from slow reporting areas already in the pipeline

 

[WEATHER53]

The basis of the question was what felony was Trump charged with. He wasn't charged under 152, he was charged under 175.10.

There were three possible concealment of crimes that could be used as motivation for the for his illegal acts under 175.10:

• Cohen's conviction for feloncy campaign finance fraud,
• Interference with an election under New York State 152,
• And violation of New York tax law (I forget the number) by improperly classifying reimburseale expenses as income payments for attorney fee's to Cohen.

I think the best case is made using Cohen's conviction. 152 is plausible based on the evidence presented in court, but not as strongly supported as attempting to hide Cohen's illegal activities. The New York income tax angle, IMHO, was a stretch.
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You have to watch it with Trump defenders, they act like the underlying crime for 175.10 has to be (a) charged, and (b) committed by Trump. So they like to deflect. That is not the case in general, they only have to be shown as a motivating factors to the jury. But in this case you have the ACTUAL conviction of Cohen for the crime, and the Trump scheme to hid the payments to Cohen to cover up the crime by laundering the money through his business entity.

WW

OMG criminal reimbursement misdeed. All made up witch hunt bullshit

 

[playtime]

I know and the world knows that at around 2am the tallying was halted and Trump up 250k. At about 6am the counting resumed and Biden is up 250K
The ridiculous explanation was that they Did stop counting BUT those 500k all for Biden were from slow reporting areas already in the pipeline

 

[Political-Junkie]

I know and the world knows that at around 2am the tallying was halted and Trump up 250k. At about 6am the counting resumed and Biden is up 250K
The ridiculous explanation was that they Did stop counting BUT those 500k all for Biden were from slow reporting areas already in the pipeline

Counting didn't stop. It went on throughout the night in some jurisdictions where it wasn't completed. In some places it went on for days.

 

[WEATHER53]

Counting didn't stop. It went on throughout the night in some jurisdictions where it wasn't completed. In some places it went on for days.

Reality denying incorrectness
They admitted they stopped and concocted the “slow votes coming in” nonsense . Thats not even in question

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

§ 17-152.

And if the felonies are fake, why is Trump appealing? Sounds real to me.

Conspiracy to promote or prevent election​

Promoting election isn't a crime.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Reality denying incorrectness
They admitted they stopped and convicted the “slow votes coming in” nonsense . Thats not even in question

Show they stopped counting.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Conspiracy to promote or prevent election​

Promoting election isn't a crime.

§ 17-152 says that is a crime if it's done by unlawful means.

 

[Southern Dad]

They can’t even admit Trump lost the 2020 election

I’m a lifelong Republican and I have no issues saying that Trump lost the 2020 elections. I said it in 2020, and I’ll say it now. He did however win the 2016 and decisively won the 2024.

 

[Southern Dad]

NO, they didn't.
They were NOT minor crimes.

It's a lie.

Trump's payments to stormy happened during 2017 and the last payment was December.
James CHARGED Trump in January of 2023.
Within the 5 year limit for the charges.
Your that stupid, you don't understand that (rhetorical)

You can't seem to help it, Q-NUT.

The charges against Trump were misdemeanors which were out of statute but they were bumped up to felonies just to try and bring him down. It failed. Even after being convicted, he won the elections.

 

[candycorn]

The charges against Trump were misdemeanors which were out of statute but they were bumped up to felonies just to try and bring him down. It failed. Even after being convicted, he won the elections.

His 34 convictions were for felonies

 

[candycorn]

I’m a lifelong Republican and I have no issues saying that Trump lost the 2020 elections. I said it in 2020, and I’ll say it now. He did however win the 2016 and decisively won the 2024.

At last..one that can muster some honesty. You should breathe on other republiklans and see if you can infect them too

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Trump's payments to stormy happened during 2017 and the last payment was December.

Bookkeeping misdemeanors in New York have a 1-year statute of limitations.

The charges weren't misdemeanors Q-Nut.

The misdemeanors were entering the payoff on your business ledgers.
They change to felonies when the greedy, orange grifter, tried to get a tax deduction for the payoff.


There is a 5 year limit on felonies and that is what your dear leader did.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

The charges against Trump were misdemeanors which were out of statute but they were bumped up to felonies just to try and bring him down.

See above.

It failed. Even after being convicted, he won the elections.

The felonies are on his record.
Republicans love their criminals...........Since 1972.
And TRAITORS since 1980.

 

[Mac1958]

Republicans love their criminals...........

Yeah. Especially right now.

Like the "villain" in pro wrestling, or the anti-hero in movies, they love the bad guy. And on top of that, with the "identity fusion" that we're seeing, THEY think of THEMSELVES as the anti-hero, too. Trump is the Joker to America's Batman. Revenge!

And, they seem to think that all the billions he's making for himself and his friends right now is their money, too, and will defend anything. People saw the same thing in New York when John Gotti was killing his Mafia family with his stupidity.

One day, this will all crash down around them. But it's probably going to be a while.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Yeah. Especially right now.

Like a villain in pro wrestling, or the anti-hero in movies, they love the bad guy. And on top of that, with the "identity fusion" that we're seeing, THEY think of THEMSELVES as the anti-hero, too.

And, they seem to think that all the billions he's making for himself and his friends right now is their money, too. People saw the same thing in New York when John Gotti was killing his Mafia family with his stupidity.

A genius compared to Trump.

One day, this will all crash down around them.

Anything Trump is involved in, usually does.

But it's probably going to be a while.

 

[Correll]

it has EVERYTHING to do with you being

special.

That's dumb. You and yours hated me and mine long before that.

no shit. it really started with the black man getting the keys to the oval office.

for eight years.

I am an ideological conservative and a partisan republican. I opposed all dem leaders and most dem policies.

That you think that OBAMA made that much of a difference to me, is you imagining retarded shit.

GO **** YOURSELF.

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[Correll]

& thousands had been arrested across the country. guess what - no pardons for them.

And thousands not, and thousands released and thousands not punished.

And no nationwide manhunt like you people did for our ONE riot.

And no bringing the hammer down

There was a clear difference in treatement of the rioters, based on POLITICALS.

That made them POLITICAL PRISONERS.

you are cray cray

cray.

Are republicans dangerous people that you need to take seriously, or are we weak wimps that you can push around and ignore our complaints?