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What would happen if government allowed all who pass a background check, and take a safety course, have and wear a gun if they chose?


1. Violent crime would decrease

2. There's be far, far fewer massacres of innocent citizens.

3. Soooo....why do Democrats insist on counter-intuitive gun laws????





This is what Democrats voted for.

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Government should encourage citizens having guns rather than working for the success of criminals.
The Constitution says you have the right to own 'arms'. Why don't localities get to decide how they want deal with when and where guns may be carried outside a home? If you want to walk around with a flintlock that gives the neighborhood some character. If you want to walk around with an Uzi, I'd keep my kids indoors.
 

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Assault weapons ban is one thing the democrats in Virginia cannot get passed despite controlling both chambers and all major offices in the state, and that is a watered down version that just prevents future sales, not outlawing possession.

Why do the Democrats work so assiduously for criminals?
Birds of a feather....
 
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Government should encourage citizens having guns rather than working for the success of criminals.
The Constitution says you have the right to own 'arms'. Why don't localities get to decide how they want deal with when and where guns may be carried outside a home? If you want to walk around with a flintlock that gives the neighborhood some character. If you want to walk around with an Uzi, I'd keep my kids indoors.

Government either treats individual as citizens, or treats them as subjects.

You are the example of what happens when individuals accept being serfs and subjects, rather than think responsible, thinking, adults.



Here is what happens when government treats citizens correctly:

"Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits

www.theepochtimes.com

Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits
Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds signed legislation into law on Friday lifting some restrictions to buy or carry a handgun in the state for law-abiding citizens.
www.theepochtimes.com
www.theepochtimes.com


"Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature

it would remove the need for Iowans to get "a permission slip" to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, while opponents say it would threaten public safety and roll back some of Iowa's background check requirements."
www.desmoinesregister.com

Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature
Iowans buying guns from federally licensed dealers would still have to pass a background check or present a permit to carry. Not so for private sales.
www.desmoinesregister.com




Unlike Democrat officials, the Republican ones treat citizens like responsible adults.


Then again......Democrat voters are far from responsible adults.


Now why don't you present the results of this sort of governance?
Not your hand-wringing propaganda.....the actual results.

Caution: if this is the first time you have ever tried thinking, you might be in danger of an aneurysm.
 
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Government should encourage citizens having guns rather than working for the success of criminals.
The Constitution says you have the right to own 'arms'. Why don't localities get to decide how they want deal with when and where guns may be carried outside a home? If you want to walk around with a flintlock that gives the neighborhood some character. If you want to walk around with an Uzi, I'd keep my kids indoors.

Government either treats individual as citizens, or treats them as subjects.

You are the example of what happens when individuals accept being serfs and subjects, rather than think responsible, thinking, adults.



Here is what happens when government treats citizens correctly:

"Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits

www.theepochtimes.com

Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits
Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds signed legislation into law on Friday lifting some restrictions to buy or carry a handgun in the state for law-abiding citizens.
www.theepochtimes.com
www.theepochtimes.com


"Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature

it would remove the need for Iowans to get "a permission slip" to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, while opponents say it would threaten public safety and roll back some of Iowa's background check requirements."
www.desmoinesregister.com

Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature
Iowans buying guns from federally licensed dealers would still have to pass a background check or present a permit to carry. Not so for private sales.
www.desmoinesregister.com




Unlike Democrat officials, the Republican ones treat citizens like responsible adults.


Then again......Democrat voters are far from responsible adults.


Now why don't you present the results of this sort of governance?
Not your hand-wringing propaganda.....the actual results.

Caution: if this is the first time you have ever tried thinking, you might be in danger of an aneurysm.
Those brave legislators, allowing their citizens to carry guns. They would be less hypocritical if they let people carry their guns into the legislature. They don't. Why is that? Don't they want the same protections they are offering everyone else in Iowa?
 
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Government should encourage citizens having guns rather than working for the success of criminals.
The Constitution says you have the right to own 'arms'. Why don't localities get to decide how they want deal with when and where guns may be carried outside a home? If you want to walk around with a flintlock that gives the neighborhood some character. If you want to walk around with an Uzi, I'd keep my kids indoors.

Government either treats individual as citizens, or treats them as subjects.

You are the example of what happens when individuals accept being serfs and subjects, rather than think responsible, thinking, adults.



Here is what happens when government treats citizens correctly:

"Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits

www.theepochtimes.com

Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits
Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds signed legislation into law on Friday lifting some restrictions to buy or carry a handgun in the state for law-abiding citizens.
www.theepochtimes.com
www.theepochtimes.com


"Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature

it would remove the need for Iowans to get "a permission slip" to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, while opponents say it would threaten public safety and roll back some of Iowa's background check requirements."
www.desmoinesregister.com

Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature
Iowans buying guns from federally licensed dealers would still have to pass a background check or present a permit to carry. Not so for private sales.
www.desmoinesregister.com




Unlike Democrat officials, the Republican ones treat citizens like responsible adults.


Then again......Democrat voters are far from responsible adults.


Now why don't you present the results of this sort of governance?
Not your hand-wringing propaganda.....the actual results.

Caution: if this is the first time you have ever tried thinking, you might be in danger of an aneurysm.
Those brave legislators, allowing their citizens to carry guns. They would be less hypocritical if they let people carry their guns into the legislature. They don't. Why is that? Don't they want the same protections they are offering everyone else in Iowa?

Because they're Democrats, dunce.



Here are the facts.



CCW Permit Holders Charged/Convicted
StateYearCrimeCharged or
Convicted
% of Total
Convictions
Out of Total
Violent Crimes
Louisianna2016Any Felony160.0092
2015Any Felony190.012325,208
2014Any Felony150.010923,983
Michigan2016Aggravated Assault170.003
2015Aggravated Assault110.002
2016Violent Crime220.05341,231
2015Violent Crime180.0035242,348
Minnesota2015Any Assault007,094
2014Any Assault00
2013Any Assault00
2012Any Assault00
2011Any Assault00
2010Any Assault00
Oregon2016Any Felony190.0074
Oklahoma2016Any Felony200.0071
2015Any Felony160.006216,506
2014Any Felony150.0069
2013Any Felony150.0078
2012Any Felony10? Unknown due
to no permit data
Tennessee2016Any Assault0
2015Any Assault040,400
2016Any Felony290.0049
2015Any Felony310.0061
Texas2016Aggravated Assault80.00067
2015Aggravated Assault100.001167,727
The percentage of total convictions indicates how many concealed carry permit holders account for the crime compared to the general population. As an example if we look at Texas in 2015 you will see that just 0.0011 of permit holders accounted for the crime of aggravated assault.





There is no more law-abiding segment of the population than these folks......certainly not the rioters, arsonists, looters who are Biden voters.
 

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Government should encourage citizens having guns rather than working for the success of criminals.
The Constitution says you have the right to own 'arms'. Why don't localities get to decide how they want deal with when and where guns may be carried outside a home? If you want to walk around with a flintlock that gives the neighborhood some character. If you want to walk around with an Uzi, I'd keep my kids indoors.

Government either treats individual as citizens, or treats them as subjects.

You are the example of what happens when individuals accept being serfs and subjects, rather than think responsible, thinking, adults.



Here is what happens when government treats citizens correctly:

"Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits

www.theepochtimes.com

Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits
Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds signed legislation into law on Friday lifting some restrictions to buy or carry a handgun in the state for law-abiding citizens.
www.theepochtimes.com
www.theepochtimes.com


"Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature

it would remove the need for Iowans to get "a permission slip" to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, while opponents say it would threaten public safety and roll back some of Iowa's background check requirements."
www.desmoinesregister.com

Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature
Iowans buying guns from federally licensed dealers would still have to pass a background check or present a permit to carry. Not so for private sales.
www.desmoinesregister.com




Unlike Democrat officials, the Republican ones treat citizens like responsible adults.


Then again......Democrat voters are far from responsible adults.


Now why don't you present the results of this sort of governance?
Not your hand-wringing propaganda.....the actual results.

Caution: if this is the first time you have ever tried thinking, you might be in danger of an aneurysm.
Those brave legislators, allowing their citizens to carry guns. They would be less hypocritical if they let people carry their guns into the legislature. They don't. Why is that? Don't they want the same protections they are offering everyone else in Iowa?

Because they're Democrats, dunce.



Here are the facts.



CCW Permit Holders Charged/Convicted
StateYearCrimeCharged or
Convicted
% of Total
Convictions
Out of Total
Violent Crimes
Louisianna2016Any Felony160.0092
2015Any Felony190.012325,208
2014Any Felony150.010923,983
Michigan2016Aggravated Assault170.003
2015Aggravated Assault110.002
2016Violent Crime220.05341,231
2015Violent Crime180.0035242,348
Minnesota2015Any Assault007,094
2014Any Assault00
2013Any Assault00
2012Any Assault00
2011Any Assault00
2010Any Assault00
Oregon2016Any Felony190.0074
Oklahoma2016Any Felony200.0071
2015Any Felony160.006216,506
2014Any Felony150.0069
2013Any Felony150.0078
2012Any Felony10? Unknown due
to no permit data
Tennessee2016Any Assault0
2015Any Assault040,400
2016Any Felony290.0049
2015Any Felony310.0061
Texas2016Aggravated Assault80.00067
2015Aggravated Assault100.001167,727
The percentage of total convictions indicates how many concealed carry permit holders account for the crime compared to the general population. As an example if we look at Texas in 2015 you will see that just 0.0011 of permit holders accounted for the crime of aggravated assault.





There is no more law-abiding segment of the population than these folks......certainly not the rioters, arsonists, looters who are Biden voters.
If that is the case, why did the legislators make it a crime for their citizens to carry guns the building where the legislature meets? Don't they want the same protections they are offering everyone else in Iowa?
 
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Government should encourage citizens having guns rather than working for the success of criminals.
The Constitution says you have the right to own 'arms'. Why don't localities get to decide how they want deal with when and where guns may be carried outside a home? If you want to walk around with a flintlock that gives the neighborhood some character. If you want to walk around with an Uzi, I'd keep my kids indoors.

Government either treats individual as citizens, or treats them as subjects.

You are the example of what happens when individuals accept being serfs and subjects, rather than think responsible, thinking, adults.



Here is what happens when government treats citizens correctly:

"Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits

www.theepochtimes.com

Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits
Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds signed legislation into law on Friday lifting some restrictions to buy or carry a handgun in the state for law-abiding citizens.
www.theepochtimes.com
www.theepochtimes.com


"Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature

it would remove the need for Iowans to get "a permission slip" to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, while opponents say it would threaten public safety and roll back some of Iowa's background check requirements."
www.desmoinesregister.com

Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature
Iowans buying guns from federally licensed dealers would still have to pass a background check or present a permit to carry. Not so for private sales.
www.desmoinesregister.com




Unlike Democrat officials, the Republican ones treat citizens like responsible adults.


Then again......Democrat voters are far from responsible adults.


Now why don't you present the results of this sort of governance?
Not your hand-wringing propaganda.....the actual results.

Caution: if this is the first time you have ever tried thinking, you might be in danger of an aneurysm.
Those brave legislators, allowing their citizens to carry guns. They would be less hypocritical if they let people carry their guns into the legislature. They don't. Why is that? Don't they want the same protections they are offering everyone else in Iowa?

Because they're Democrats, dunce.



Here are the facts.



CCW Permit Holders Charged/Convicted
StateYearCrimeCharged or
Convicted
% of Total
Convictions
Out of Total
Violent Crimes
Louisianna2016Any Felony160.0092
2015Any Felony190.012325,208
2014Any Felony150.010923,983
Michigan2016Aggravated Assault170.003
2015Aggravated Assault110.002
2016Violent Crime220.05341,231
2015Violent Crime180.0035242,348
Minnesota2015Any Assault007,094
2014Any Assault00
2013Any Assault00
2012Any Assault00
2011Any Assault00
2010Any Assault00
Oregon2016Any Felony190.0074
Oklahoma2016Any Felony200.0071
2015Any Felony160.006216,506
2014Any Felony150.0069
2013Any Felony150.0078
2012Any Felony10? Unknown due
to no permit data
Tennessee2016Any Assault0
2015Any Assault040,400
2016Any Felony290.0049
2015Any Felony310.0061
Texas2016Aggravated Assault80.00067
2015Aggravated Assault100.001167,727
The percentage of total convictions indicates how many concealed carry permit holders account for the crime compared to the general population. As an example if we look at Texas in 2015 you will see that just 0.0011 of permit holders accounted for the crime of aggravated assault.





There is no more law-abiding segment of the population than these folks......certainly not the rioters, arsonists, looters who are Biden voters.
If that is the case, why did the legislators make it a crime for their citizens to carry guns the building where the legislature meets? Don't they want the same protections they are offering everyone else in Iowa?

So hand-wringing panty waists like you believe their propaganda about how guns jump up an kill people.


Where are your statistics about lawful individuals with CCW permits causing massacres?

Shall I wait, or simply conclude that you are not bright enough to understand that there are no such stats?



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Government should encourage citizens having guns rather than working for the success of criminals.
The Constitution says you have the right to own 'arms'. Why don't localities get to decide how they want deal with when and where guns may be carried outside a home? If you want to walk around with a flintlock that gives the neighborhood some character. If you want to walk around with an Uzi, I'd keep my kids indoors.

Government either treats individual as citizens, or treats them as subjects.

You are the example of what happens when individuals accept being serfs and subjects, rather than think responsible, thinking, adults.



Here is what happens when government treats citizens correctly:

"Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits

www.theepochtimes.com

Iowa Governor Signs Bill Into Law Letting Residents Buy, Carry Guns Without Permits
Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds signed legislation into law on Friday lifting some restrictions to buy or carry a handgun in the state for law-abiding citizens.
www.theepochtimes.com
www.theepochtimes.com


"Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature

it would remove the need for Iowans to get "a permission slip" to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, while opponents say it would threaten public safety and roll back some of Iowa's background check requirements."
www.desmoinesregister.com

Iowans would no longer need a permit to carry or buy guns under a GOP bill in the Legislature
Iowans buying guns from federally licensed dealers would still have to pass a background check or present a permit to carry. Not so for private sales.
www.desmoinesregister.com




Unlike Democrat officials, the Republican ones treat citizens like responsible adults.


Then again......Democrat voters are far from responsible adults.


Now why don't you present the results of this sort of governance?
Not your hand-wringing propaganda.....the actual results.

Caution: if this is the first time you have ever tried thinking, you might be in danger of an aneurysm.
Those brave legislators, allowing their citizens to carry guns. They would be less hypocritical if they let people carry their guns into the legislature. They don't. Why is that? Don't they want the same protections they are offering everyone else in Iowa?

Because they're Democrats, dunce.



Here are the facts.



CCW Permit Holders Charged/Convicted
StateYearCrimeCharged or
Convicted
% of Total
Convictions
Out of Total
Violent Crimes
Louisianna2016Any Felony160.0092
2015Any Felony190.012325,208
2014Any Felony150.010923,983
Michigan2016Aggravated Assault170.003
2015Aggravated Assault110.002
2016Violent Crime220.05341,231
2015Violent Crime180.0035242,348
Minnesota2015Any Assault007,094
2014Any Assault00
2013Any Assault00
2012Any Assault00
2011Any Assault00
2010Any Assault00
Oregon2016Any Felony190.0074
Oklahoma2016Any Felony200.0071
2015Any Felony160.006216,506
2014Any Felony150.0069
2013Any Felony150.0078
2012Any Felony10? Unknown due
to no permit data
Tennessee2016Any Assault0
2015Any Assault040,400
2016Any Felony290.0049
2015Any Felony310.0061
Texas2016Aggravated Assault80.00067
2015Aggravated Assault100.001167,727
The percentage of total convictions indicates how many concealed carry permit holders account for the crime compared to the general population. As an example if we look at Texas in 2015 you will see that just 0.0011 of permit holders accounted for the crime of aggravated assault.





There is no more law-abiding segment of the population than these folks......certainly not the rioters, arsonists, looters who are Biden voters.
If that is the case, why did the legislators make it a crime for their citizens to carry guns the building where the legislature meets? Don't they want the same protections they are offering everyone else in Iowa?

So hand-wringing panty waists like you believe their propaganda about how guns jump up an kill people.


Where are your statistics about lawful individuals with CCW permits causing massacres?

Shall I wait, or simply conclude that you are not bright enough to understand that there are no such stats?
I'm still waiting for you to answer to my questions. Shall I wait, or simply conclude that you are not bright enough to understand them?
 

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